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You know what I have learned is that you can only lead a horse to water but cannot make him/her drink. Does your wife want to get well? Is she afraid of getting well and truly living life to its fullest or does she have needs filled by being sick. Some people get a lot of emotional perks by being sick. I know that may sound somewhat harsh but that is what I have found over the years. I own a holistic center and have come across all kinds of people with all kinds of ailments and there are some times when people want to hold on to their illnesses. Sometimes it is on a subconscious level.. Maybe you should ask your wife what is it she is afraid of that is holding her back. As far a surgery for emphysema I personally don't see how surgery would be of any benefit. I am not a doctor however and these opinions are just my own.See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

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As far as mister Vegas goes.. maybe you should enlist the help of a naturopathic doctor. That way you could work with the traditional and alternative and try to find more balance in this situation. There are many credible naturopathic doctors out there.. There has to be one in your area.See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

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I am sorry. It must be extremely difficult to watch a loved one fade away when you know there are things you could do to change the outcome. Maybe it is time to surrender the situation and be gentle on yourself.

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I agree with you . she appears to have fallen , over the years , into bad habits of excercise and diet. It went more down hill when her mother died. She has always wanted somebody to nurse her like her mother did. I can forget talking to her, she is a bit bipolar, and begins angrily insulting at most serious conversations (and will neither admit, nor seek treatment for that either). I don't know if I can get her to h2o2 injection therapy, which seems to work, but at least she can't do the surgery, do to lack of money.I can't even get her to allow me to massage her, which is a little odd, as I am rather good at it. In fact, some find that a powerful vibrator applied to the chest loosens up phlem. shantigirl38@... wrote: You know what I have learned is that you can only lead a horse to water but cannot make him/her drink. Does your wife want to get well? Is she afraid of getting well and truly living life to its fullest or does she have needs filled by being sick. Some people get a lot of emotional perks by being sick. I know that may sound somewhat harsh but that is what I have found over the years. I own a holistic center and have come across all kinds of people with all kinds of ailments and there are some times when people want to hold on to their illnesses. Sometimes it is on a subconscious level.. Maybe you should ask your wife what is it she is afraid of that is holding her

back. As far a surgery for emphysema I personally don't see how surgery would be of any benefit. I am not a doctor however and these opinions are just my own. See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. __________________________________________________

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Have you seen the movie the GREEN MILE?

Remmeber the part with the man whose sick wife who had

a sailor's tongue and looked possessed?

Then the 'energy healer' go to work with her. He layed

his hands on her. Her disease went away and

interestingly her foul disposition went away as well.

Healer Ken Page says the same thing in his lectures;

there is a direct relationship with disease and

spiritual purity.

I have studied the teachings of exorcists who say same

the same thing, only they call it 'the spirit of

disease'.

Then there is my own experience with my child's mother

that sounds strikingly similiar to yours. From a

researcher's standpoint, I saw rather interesting

things happen when I applied Holy Water on her head.

If you need the recipe for Holy Water, you can find it

on my WHAT I DID THIS WEEKEND blog at:

http://blog.myspace.com/ernie_vegas

You can also pick some up at a Catholic Church. I

actually use both the one I make and the one from a

local Church just to be safe.

This is no joke. Look at my photo gallery here and

you'll see I'm speaking from experience:

www.myspace.com/ernie_vegas

Ernie

--- Meredith <meredith848@...> wrote:

> I agree with you . she appears to have fallen , over

> the years , into bad habits of excercise and diet.

> It went more down hill when her mother died. She has

> always wanted somebody to nurse her like her mother

> did. I can forget talking to her, she is a bit

> bipolar, and begins angrily insulting at most

> serious conversations (and will neither admit, nor

> seek treatment for that either). I don't know if I

> can get her to h2o2 injection therapy, which seems

> to work, but at least she can't do the surgery, do

> to lack of money.I can't even get her to allow me to

> massage her, which is a little odd, as I am rather

> good at it. In fact, some find that a powerful

> vibrator applied to the chest loosens up phlem.

>

>

> shantigirl38@... wrote:

> You know what I have learned is that you

> can only lead a horse to water but cannot make

> him/her drink. Does your wife want to get well? Is

> she afraid of getting well and truly living life to

> its fullest or does she have needs filled by being

> sick. Some people get a lot of emotional perks by

> being sick. I know that may sound somewhat harsh

> but that is what I have found over the years. I own

> a holistic center and have come across all kinds of

> people with all kinds of ailments and there are some

> times when people want to hold on to their

> illnesses. Sometimes it is on a subconscious

> level.. Maybe you should ask your wife what is it

> she is afraid of that is holding her back. As far a

> surgery for emphysema I personally don't see how

> surgery would be of any benefit. I am not a doctor

> however and these opinions are just my own.

>

>

>

>

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> Homepage.

>

>

>

>

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I am with you Ernie. I put holy water on her head, and , nothing. This is uncharacteristic as usually she hates water on her. Some of her manifestations have had a satanic appearance , however. Nothing like killing people, but odd and mean. She is a visionary, and recently had a few prophetic dreams that appeared to be true. She sometimes knows when her sister wants her to call, and comes from Chile , where this sort of thing is thought to be normal. She was under a whole lot of stress from baby #1, and made a radical, mean , change. She wont accept nutrition(there was civil war here when I found out and talked about it). I dont know what photos you are talking about(on the blog). ERNIE VEGAS <ernie_vegas@...> wrote: Have you seen the movie the GREEN MILE?Remmeber the part with the man whose sick wife who hada sailor's tongue and looked possessed?Then the 'energy healer' go to work with her. He layedhis hands on her. Her disease went away andinterestingly her foul disposition went away as well.Healer Ken Page says the same thing in his lectures;there is a direct relationship with disease andspiritual purity.I have studied the teachings of exorcists who say samethe same thing, only they call it 'the spirit ofdisease'.Then there is my own experience with my child's motherthat sounds strikingly similiar to yours. From aresearcher's standpoint, I saw rather

interestingthings happen when I applied Holy Water on her head.If you need the recipe for Holy Water, you can find iton my WHAT I DID THIS WEEKEND blog at:http://blog.myspace.com/ernie_vegasYou can also pick some up at a Catholic Church. Iactually use both the one I make and the one from alocal Church just to be safe.This is no joke. Look at my photo gallery here andyou'll see I'm speaking from experience:www.myspace.com/ernie_vegasErnie--- Meredith <meredith848 > wrote:> I agree with you . she appears to have fallen , over> the years , into bad habits of excercise and diet.> It went more down hill when her mother died. She has> always wanted somebody to nurse her like her mother> did. I can forget talking to her, she

is a bit> bipolar, and begins angrily insulting at most> serious conversations (and will neither admit, nor> seek treatment for that either). I don't know if I> can get her to h2o2 injection therapy, which seems> to work, but at least she can't do the surgery, do> to lack of money.I can't even get her to allow me to> massage her, which is a little odd, as I am rather> good at it. In fact, some find that a powerful> vibrator applied to the chest loosens up phlem.> > > shantigirl38aol wrote:> You know what I have learned is that you> can only lead a horse to water but cannot make> him/her drink. Does your wife want to get well? Is> she afraid of getting well and truly living life to> its fullest or does she have needs filled by being> sick. Some people get a lot of emotional perks by>

being sick. I know that may sound somewhat harsh> but that is what I have found over the years. I own> a holistic center and have come across all kinds of> people with all kinds of ailments and there are some> times when people want to hold on to their> illnesses. Sometimes it is on a subconscious> level.. Maybe you should ask your wife what is it> she is afraid of that is holding her back. As far a> surgery for emphysema I personally don't see how> surgery would be of any benefit. I am not a doctor> however and these opinions are just my own.> > > > > ---------------------------------> See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your> Homepage.> > > > > __________________________________________________>

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Where can I find that guy from the GReen Mile ? ERNIE VEGAS <ernie_vegas@...> wrote: Have you seen the movie the GREEN MILE?Remmeber the part with the man whose sick wife who hada sailor's tongue and looked possessed?Then the 'energy healer' go to work with her. He layedhis hands on her. Her disease went away andinterestingly her foul disposition went away as well.Healer Ken Page says the same thing in his lectures;there is a direct relationship with disease andspiritual

purity.I have studied the teachings of exorcists who say samethe same thing, only they call it 'the spirit ofdisease'.Then there is my own experience with my child's motherthat sounds strikingly similiar to yours. From aresearcher's standpoint, I saw rather interestingthings happen when I applied Holy Water on her head.If you need the recipe for Holy Water, you can find iton my WHAT I DID THIS WEEKEND blog at:http://blog.myspace.com/ernie_vegasYou can also pick some up at a Catholic Church. Iactually use both the one I make and the one from alocal Church just to be safe.This is no joke. Look at my photo gallery here andyou'll see I'm speaking from experience:www.myspace.com/ernie_vegasErnie--- Meredith <meredith848 >

wrote:> I agree with you . she appears to have fallen , over> the years , into bad habits of excercise and diet.> It went more down hill when her mother died. She has> always wanted somebody to nurse her like her mother> did. I can forget talking to her, she is a bit> bipolar, and begins angrily insulting at most> serious conversations (and will neither admit, nor> seek treatment for that either). I don't know if I> can get her to h2o2 injection therapy, which seems> to work, but at least she can't do the surgery, do> to lack of money.I can't even get her to allow me to> massage her, which is a little odd, as I am rather> good at it. In fact, some find that a powerful> vibrator applied to the chest loosens up phlem.> > > shantigirl38aol wrote:> You know what I have learned is that

you> can only lead a horse to water but cannot make> him/her drink. Does your wife want to get well? Is> she afraid of getting well and truly living life to> its fullest or does she have needs filled by being> sick. Some people get a lot of emotional perks by> being sick. I know that may sound somewhat harsh> but that is what I have found over the years. I own> a holistic center and have come across all kinds of> people with all kinds of ailments and there are some> times when people want to hold on to their> illnesses. Sometimes it is on a subconscious> level.. Maybe you should ask your wife what is it> she is afraid of that is holding her back. As far a> surgery for emphysema I personally don't see how> surgery would be of any benefit. I am not a doctor> however and these opinions are just my own.> > > > >

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Actually, she is up and around , and I dont know where that fool of a Dr. came up with 3 more years to live. I think she could get out of it with good activities(a job), excercise and diet, etc. , but I may as well be spitting in the wind. michaelshantigirl38@... wrote: , I am sorry. It must be extremely difficult to watch a loved one fade away when you know there are things you could do to change the outcome. Maybe it is time to surrender

the situation and be gentle on yourself. shanti See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. __________________________________________________

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There are four components of a person's health:

1. PHYSICAL. This is the stuff that has to do with

the physical body; organ weakness, chemical imbalance,

infection, etc.

2. EMOTIONAL. A lot of healers have discovered that

cancer patients have 'stored resentment' that

manifested the cancer. If a person is chronically and

severaly depressed, the body starts a process that

allows the body to degrade and stops it from healing.

If a person is stressed out, adrenaline is pumped into

the blood. One of the components of adrenaline is

cortisol. Cortisol tells the body to stop putting

energy into healing, and to put all energy into the

process of 'fight or flight'. If a person is

chronically stressed out, it can severaly weaken the

immune system. These are all examples of how EMOTION

can affect healing.

3. MENTAL. What you believe is important. There is a

documented story of a lady who was engaged to a

soldier that was going to return home on a particular

day. She sat by the window and waited for him to

return on that day. He never returned because he was

killed. Every day she sat by the window and waited,

for years. She didn't age. Yes, at this point she was

mentally inbalanced, but the point I am trying to make

is that she believed she was still at a certain age

and her body followed along. She was 80 but looked 20.

You have to reprogram your mind for success, or your

mind can actually overpower any healing progress you

make.

4. SPIRITUAL. The energy field that surrounds the

body as shown by Kirlian photography is an important

part of health. Many teachings say that disease starts

here. If you don't maintain or cleanse your energy

field, it is often full of negative energy, spiritual

parasites (spirits that feed off of your energy),

other people's energy, etc.

Keep in mind that working on the SPIRITUAL aspect of a

person's unhealthy state is a process. In some movies

a person puts holy water on the head once and the

problem is over and the sun comes out. Not always

true. It is usually a process. The BECK PROTOCOL takes

90 days (60 days if you read the old manuals). Dr.

Weil says it takes 8 weeks for Ginko Biloba to

build up therapeutic levels in your system. In the

movie THE EXORCIST when holy water is put on the girl,

she vomits and ejects a large amount of nastiness, but

not all of it. It weakened it, but didn't fully

resolve the problem. This is what I have seen in

practice. You might weaken whatever is around her by a

factor of 1% a day. It might take daily application

for a month or two before you have massive changes.

Also, don't be shy about stating your intent. I put a

cross on the forehead and usually say 'With this holy

water, I purge, purify, cleanse, and deliver this

person. In the name of the Father, the Son, and the

Holy Spirit, and in the name of Jesus Christ. AMEN.'

If they are super dirty spiritually, there is usually

vomiting. If they are moderately dirty, there is

usually diarrhea. If they are slightly dirty, there is

an energy loss.

You have to commit to the time period, even if it

APPEARS to get better. These things are sneaky. Trust

me. Go to my WOMEN IN THE RED DRESS PHOTO GALLERY to

see what I am talking about.

Please report to us of any progress you make. If you

don't follow procedures 100%, you will probably get

less than dazzling results. Regardless of whether it

is the BECK PROTOCOL or any other protocol.

Keep in mind that if they deserve to be in the

position that they are in, because of past deeds

(karma), then this changes the healing protocol

slightly. Let me know if you want that information.

Ernie

http://www.myspace.com/ernie_vegas

--- Meredith <meredith848@...> wrote:

> I am with you Ernie. I put holy water on her head,

> and , nothing. This is uncharacteristic as usually

> she hates water on her.

> Some of her manifestations have had a satanic

> appearance , however. Nothing like killing people,

> but odd and mean. She is a visionary, and recently

> had a few prophetic dreams that appeared to be true.

> She sometimes knows when her sister wants her to

> call, and comes from Chile , where this sort of

> thing is thought to be normal.

> She was under a whole lot of stress from baby #1,

> and made a radical, mean , change.

> She wont accept nutrition(there was civil war here

> when I found out and talked about it).

> I dont know what photos you are talking about(on

> the blog).

>

>

> ERNIE VEGAS <ernie_vegas@...> wrote:

> Have you seen the movie the GREEN MILE?

>

> Remmeber the part with the man whose sick wife who

> had

> a sailor's tongue and looked possessed?

>

> Then the 'energy healer' go to work with her. He

> layed

> his hands on her. Her disease went away and

> interestingly her foul disposition went away as

> well.

>

> Healer Ken Page says the same thing in his lectures;

> there is a direct relationship with disease and

> spiritual purity.

>

> I have studied the teachings of exorcists who say

> same

> the same thing, only they call it 'the spirit of

> disease'.

>

> Then there is my own experience with my child's

> mother

> that sounds strikingly similiar to yours. From a

> researcher's standpoint, I saw rather interesting

> things happen when I applied Holy Water on her head.

>

> If you need the recipe for Holy Water, you can find

> it

> on my WHAT I DID THIS WEEKEND blog at:

>

> http://blog.myspace.com/ernie_vegas

>

> You can also pick some up at a Catholic Church. I

> actually use both the one I make and the one from a

> local Church just to be safe.

>

> This is no joke. Look at my photo gallery here and

> you'll see I'm speaking from experience:

>

> www.myspace.com/ernie_vegas

>

> Ernie

>

> --- Meredith <meredith848@...> wrote:

>

> > I agree with you . she appears to have fallen ,

> over

> > the years , into bad habits of excercise and diet.

> > It went more down hill when her mother died. She

> has

> > always wanted somebody to nurse her like her

> mother

> > did. I can forget talking to her, she is a bit

> > bipolar, and begins angrily insulting at most

> > serious conversations (and will neither admit, nor

> > seek treatment for that either). I don't know if I

> > can get her to h2o2 injection therapy, which seems

> > to work, but at least she can't do the surgery, do

> > to lack of money.I can't even get her to allow me

> to

> > massage her, which is a little odd, as I am rather

> > good at it. In fact, some find that a powerful

> > vibrator applied to the chest loosens up phlem.

> >

> >

> > shantigirl38@... wrote:

> > You know what I have learned is that you

> > can only lead a horse to water but cannot make

> > him/her drink. Does your wife want to get well? Is

> > she afraid of getting well and truly living life

> to

> > its fullest or does she have needs filled by being

> > sick. Some people get a lot of emotional perks by

> > being sick. I know that may sound somewhat harsh

> > but that is what I have found over the years. I

> own

> > a holistic center and have come across all kinds

> of

> > people with all kinds of ailments and there are

> some

> > times when people want to hold on to their

> > illnesses. Sometimes it is on a subconscious

> > level.. Maybe you should ask your wife what is it

> > she is afraid of that is holding her back. As far

> a

> > surgery for emphysema I personally don't see how

> > surgery would be of any benefit. I am not a doctor

> > however and these opinions are just my own.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your

> > Homepage.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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There are several places that a person can go for free

healings:

- The SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA PSYCHIC INSTITUTE in Costa

Mesa.

- The SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA PSYCHIC INSTITUTE in Santa

.

- There are free PRANIC HEALING clinics all over the

place. Search the internet for FREE PRANIC HEALING

CLINIC.

Most of these places also offer a healing package of

some sort if you want a longer professional healing.

Ernie

--- Meredith <meredith848@...> wrote:

> Where can I find that guy from the GReen Mile ?

>

>

> ERNIE VEGAS <ernie_vegas@...> wrote:

> Have you seen the movie the GREEN MILE?

>

> Remmeber the part with the man whose sick wife who

> had

> a sailor's tongue and looked possessed?

>

> Then the 'energy healer' go to work with her. He

> layed

> his hands on her. Her disease went away and

> interestingly her foul disposition went away as

> well.

>

> Healer Ken Page says the same thing in his lectures;

> there is a direct relationship with disease and

> spiritual purity.

>

> I have studied the teachings of exorcists who say

> same

> the same thing, only they call it 'the spirit of

> disease'.

>

> Then there is my own experience with my child's

> mother

> that sounds strikingly similiar to yours. From a

> researcher's standpoint, I saw rather interesting

> things happen when I applied Holy Water on her head.

>

> If you need the recipe for Holy Water, you can find

> it

> on my WHAT I DID THIS WEEKEND blog at:

>

> http://blog.myspace.com/ernie_vegas

>

> You can also pick some up at a Catholic Church. I

> actually use both the one I make and the one from a

> local Church just to be safe.

>

> This is no joke. Look at my photo gallery here and

> you'll see I'm speaking from experience:

>

> www.myspace.com/ernie_vegas

>

> Ernie

>

> --- Meredith <meredith848@...> wrote:

>

> > I agree with you . she appears to have fallen ,

> over

> > the years , into bad habits of excercise and diet.

> > It went more down hill when her mother died. She

> has

> > always wanted somebody to nurse her like her

> mother

> > did. I can forget talking to her, she is a bit

> > bipolar, and begins angrily insulting at most

> > serious conversations (and will neither admit, nor

> > seek treatment for that either). I don't know if I

> > can get her to h2o2 injection therapy, which seems

> > to work, but at least she can't do the surgery, do

> > to lack of money.I can't even get her to allow me

> to

> > massage her, which is a little odd, as I am rather

> > good at it. In fact, some find that a powerful

> > vibrator applied to the chest loosens up phlem.

> >

> >

> > shantigirl38@... wrote:

> > You know what I have learned is that you

> > can only lead a horse to water but cannot make

> > him/her drink. Does your wife want to get well? Is

> > she afraid of getting well and truly living life

> to

> > its fullest or does she have needs filled by being

> > sick. Some people get a lot of emotional perks by

> > being sick. I know that may sound somewhat harsh

> > but that is what I have found over the years. I

> own

> > a holistic center and have come across all kinds

> of

> > people with all kinds of ailments and there are

> some

> > times when people want to hold on to their

> > illnesses. Sometimes it is on a subconscious

> > level.. Maybe you should ask your wife what is it

> > she is afraid of that is holding her back. As far

> a

> > surgery for emphysema I personally don't see how

> > surgery would be of any benefit. I am not a doctor

> > however and these opinions are just my own.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your

> > Homepage.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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Hi Ernie, how are you? .............see my new page at bigsculpture.orgERNIE VEGAS <ernie_vegas@...> wrote: There are several places that a person can go for freehealings:- The SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA PSYCHIC INSTITUTE in CostaMesa.- The SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA PSYCHIC INSTITUTE in Santa.- There are free PRANIC HEALING clinics all over theplace. Search the internet for FREE PRANIC HEALINGCLINIC.Most of these places also offer a healing package ofsome sort if you want a

longer professional healing.Ernie--- Meredith <meredith848 > wrote:> Where can I find that guy from the GReen Mile ?> > > ERNIE VEGAS <ernie_vegas > wrote:> Have you seen the movie the GREEN MILE?> > Remmeber the part with the man whose sick wife who> had> a sailor's tongue and looked possessed?> > Then the 'energy healer' go to work with her. He> layed> his hands on her. Her disease went away and> interestingly her foul disposition went away as> well.> > Healer Ken Page says the same thing in his lectures;> there is a direct relationship with disease and> spiritual purity.> > I have studied the teachings of exorcists who say> same> the same thing, only

they call it 'the spirit of> disease'.> > Then there is my own experience with my child's> mother> that sounds strikingly similiar to yours. From a> researcher's standpoint, I saw rather interesting> things happen when I applied Holy Water on her head.> > If you need the recipe for Holy Water, you can find> it> on my WHAT I DID THIS WEEKEND blog at:> > http://blog.myspace.com/ernie_vegas> > You can also pick some up at a Catholic Church. I> actually use both the one I make and the one from a> local Church just to be safe.> > This is no joke. Look at my photo gallery here and> you'll see I'm speaking from experience:> > www.myspace.com/ernie_vegas> > Ernie> > --- Meredith <meredith848 > wrote:> > > I agree with you . she appears to have fallen ,> over> > the years , into bad habits of excercise and diet.> > It went more down hill when her mother died. She> has> > always wanted somebody to nurse her like her> mother> > did. I can forget talking to her, she is a bit> > bipolar, and begins angrily insulting at most> > serious conversations (and will neither admit, nor> > seek treatment for that either). I don't know if I> > can get her to h2o2 injection therapy, which seems> > to work, but at least she can't do the surgery, do> > to lack of money.I can't even get her to allow me> to> > massage her, which is a little odd, as I am rather> > good at it. In fact, some find that a powerful> > vibrator applied to the

chest loosens up phlem.> > > > > > shantigirl38aol wrote:> > You know what I have learned is that you> > can only lead a horse to water but cannot make> > him/her drink. Does your wife want to get well? Is> > she afraid of getting well and truly living life> to> > its fullest or does she have needs filled by being> > sick. Some people get a lot of emotional perks by> > being sick. I know that may sound somewhat harsh> > but that is what I have found over the years. I> own> > a holistic center and have come across all kinds> of> > people with all kinds of ailments and there are> some> > times when people want to hold on to their> > illnesses. Sometimes it is on a subconscious> > level.. Maybe you should ask your wife what is

it> > she is afraid of that is holding her back. As far> a> > surgery for emphysema I personally don't see how> > surgery would be of any benefit. I am not a doctor> > however and these opinions are just my own.> > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your> > Homepage.> > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________> >

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