SOTA's Light Therapy Unit: First Testimonial!

[Guest guest]

I had a remarkable first try with the Infra-Red (IR) side of my Light

Therapy unit. For about 2-3 years now I have been favouring a rotator-

cuff injury to my left shoulder. A real deep pain...that severely

affected my golf swing!! Thought I would have to live with it, since

nothing I tried ever gave me relief. Last night I placed the IR side

to the shoulder area, set Nogier frequency B (584Hz), and left it for

20 minutes. After that single treatment, I got up and moved my arm

around. Hmmm I thought, feels pretty good. Actually, it feels

fantastic. I had a good night's sleep and after waking I tried moving

the shoulder around. Much to my total amazement, I had zero pain and

full mobility! I was shocked. Actually, I still am. It is the most

remarkable healing I have ever been witness to. And this is only with

one treatment. I will continue to treat over the next week and also

treat other problematic areas that have not responded to other

therapies. I am going to the golf driving range today to see how the

shoulder holds up under stress. But from what I can tell right now, I

can say that I am 99% healed.

Wow.

Russ :>)

[Guest guest]

Russ, what light therapy unit are you referring to? Have you developed

one? Or is this one we can buy? ...Dean

On Tuesday, December 2, 2003, at 08:07 AM, sotainstruments wrote:

> I had a remarkable first try with the Infra-Red (IR) side of my Light

> Therapy unit.

[Guest guest]

Hi Dean,

This is a new prototype unit that I am designing. I hope to have it

available in few months.

Cheers!

Russ :>)

>

> > I had a remarkable first try with the Infra-Red (IR) side of my

Light

> > Therapy unit.

[Guest guest]

Hi:

Some of you may be interested in the following.

For LEDs of kinds :

<www.gilway.com>

<www.eLumexLEDs.com>

Title: About LED's,Candelas and Watts.

I shall make some statements, they are at the best of my knowledge,

today. Of course comments and corrections are most welcome.

Visible LED's are usually specified in Candela units. This units are

weighted to the human eye response.

When LED's are used for tissue irradiation the important Item is the

forward (Light going forward, not in all directions) radiant power,

expressed in Watts (or milliwatts) and since Watts x seconds = to

Joules, the dose should be expressed in Joules (watts-second).

To obtain the radiant power from LED manufacturers has proven rather

difficult. So here are some numbers: (Values are approximations)

MGMicro LED clusters (from used traffic signals)

Red probably 660nm,

At 1.8 volts, 20 mA, 600 mCd, 0.65 mW

2.0 45 1000 1.37

Approximates Gilway E168

Green probably 565 nm

At 2.2 Volts , 20mA, 300 mCd, 0.064 mW

2.5 45 600 0.17

Approximates Gilway E166

As can be seen from the above numbers although the red and the green

have the same " brightness " (600 mCd) the power emitted by the red is 10

times that of the green.

This relationship approx. holds for all reds Vs green LED's.

Therefore the use of the candela measure can be misleading.

Also LED's with wider view angles (2 Omega1/2) and the same Candela have

more power output than narrower ones.

Infrared LED's are usually specified in milliwatts per steradian .

A steradian is a solid angle (3D's) which having its vertex at the

center of the sphere, cuts off a spherical surface area equal to the

square of the sphere radius.

So in a 1 meter radius sphere an angle of 1 steradian will encircle an

area of one square meter.

Here care must be exercised, when the specs said an LED has a 20 mW/sr.

It does not mean that if the power is measured in its center steradian

angle it will be 20 mW's, The power density will be equal to 20 mW/sr

only in the center one hundred of a steradian.

So once again the thing that counts is: The total radiant power emitted

forward.

Example: Giway IR LED # E24 specified at 20 mw/sr (typical) has the

following total power:

At 1.4 Volts, 20 mA, 3.20 mW at zero distance from LED face.

2.54 mW at 1.0 cm (into a 1cm detector)

1.21 mW at 2.5 cm (into a 1cm detector)

However if the power in the center 0.01 sr is measured and then is

multiplied by 100 it will equal to 20mW/sr.

In my experience irradiation with IR(880) and Red (660nm) clusters seems

to help in a number of maladies.

To build a powerful IR (72 LED's) cluster a kit can be purchased from

the maker <www.dalewheat.com> or from BGMicro. <www.bgmicro.com>

Complete kit $25.95 part # LED1069, Assembled and tested $35.95 LED 1070 .

A weather resistant enclosed version for $59.95.

The PCB part # LED1070, $9.95 can be used to built a RED version using

Gilway #E184 LED's (660nm, 2000 mCd, min., 3500 mCd max.) Its power

output at the led face is:

At 1.85 V, 20 mA, 2.0 mW

2.00 V, 36 mA 3.5 mW

2.30 V, 60 mA 5.3 mW

For continuous wave Operation, 200 Ohms resistors can be used.

For pulsed operation the circuit provide by Walter Cook at

<www.seanet.com/~waltc/page43.htm> is very useful.

For extensive information on LED's and Laser Diodes, use and dosages see :

Therapeutic Lasers Theory and Practice, by G. Baxter,.

Churchill Livingstone, Publisher.

Last Comment:, Remember that:

Power Density = Irradiance = Total Incident Power / Area. [Watts / cm^2]

Radiant Exposure = Energy Density = Total Incident Energy / Area.

[Joules / cm^2] = [Watts-sec/cm^2]

Radiant Exposure Also is equal to:

Total Power Density x Total Time of Irradiation [Watts/cm^2 x Seconds]

Walter's schematic produces a frequency of 7 Hz at 50% duty cycle.

Baxter states that a 4Hz frequency decreases sensitivity to pain

immediately, Walter's circuit can be easily altered by changing a couple

of components .

Sincerely

R

[Guest guest]

Hey ,

Wow you are a great wealth of information!!

Perhaps I can pick away at your brain? BTW thanks again for the

technical info on the gauss calculation. :>)

I would like to calculate the Joules delivered by my LED unit. The

660nm LEDs output about 4,000 mcd each. View angle (2 Theta 1/2*) =

16, forward voltage ~2.1 Volts and recommended current drive is 20mA.

I am driving them at close to 20mA (constant-current).

It seems the power output is close to the example you showed here at

2.0mW.

Now, I have a cluster of 60 Red LEDs spaced about 0.2 " apart.

The IR LEDs are 880nm, 1.3Volts, 20mA, View Angle = 20, and output is

30mW/Sr. I am running them at 20mA as well.

The cluster is also 0.2 " spacing and there are 52 LEDs.

Would the mW/cm2 rating take into account the cluster of LEDs or is

it referring to one LED only?

I'm new to all this light stuff!

What's your take on this?

Thanks Professor,

Russ :>)

> Hi:

> Some of you may be interested in the following.

>

> For LEDs of kinds :

> <www.gilway.com>

> <www.eLumexLEDs.com>

>

> Title: About LED's,Candelas and Watts.

>

> I shall make some statements, they are at the best of my knowledge,

> today. Of course comments and corrections are most welcome.

>

> Visible LED's are usually specified in Candela units. This units

are

> weighted to the human eye response.

> When LED's are used for tissue irradiation the important Item is

the

> forward (Light going forward, not in all directions) radiant power,

> expressed in Watts (or milliwatts) and since Watts x seconds = to

> Joules, the dose should be expressed in Joules (watts-second).

>

> To obtain the radiant power from LED manufacturers has proven

rather

> difficult. So here are some numbers: (Values are approximations)

>

> MGMicro LED clusters (from used traffic signals)

> Red probably 660nm,

> At 1.8 volts, 20 mA, 600 mCd, 0.65 mW

> 2.0 45 1000 1.37

> Approximates Gilway E168

>

> Green probably 565 nm

> At 2.2 Volts , 20mA, 300 mCd, 0.064 mW

> 2.5 45 600 0.17

> Approximates Gilway E166

>

> As can be seen from the above numbers although the red and the

green

> have the same " brightness " (600 mCd) the power emitted by the red

is 10

> times that of the green.

> This relationship approx. holds for all reds Vs green LED's.

> Therefore the use of the candela measure can be misleading.

>

> Also LED's with wider view angles (2 Omega1/2) and the same Candela

have

> more power output than narrower ones.

>

> Infrared LED's are usually specified in milliwatts per steradian .

> A steradian is a solid angle (3D's) which having its vertex at the

> center of the sphere, cuts off a spherical surface area equal to

the

> square of the sphere radius.

> So in a 1 meter radius sphere an angle of 1 steradian will encircle

an

> area of one square meter.

> Here care must be exercised, when the specs said an LED has a 20

mW/sr.

> It does not mean that if the power is measured in its center

steradian

> angle it will be 20 mW's, The power density will be equal to 20

mW/sr

> only in the center one hundred of a steradian.

>

> So once again the thing that counts is: The total radiant power

emitted

> forward.

>

> Example: Giway IR LED # E24 specified at 20 mw/sr (typical) has the

> following total power:

>

> At 1.4 Volts, 20 mA, 3.20 mW at zero distance from LED face.

> 2.54 mW at 1.0 cm (into a 1cm detector)

> 1.21 mW at 2.5 cm (into a 1cm detector)

>

> However if the power in the center 0.01 sr is measured and then is

> multiplied by 100 it will equal to 20mW/sr.

>

> In my experience irradiation with IR(880) and Red (660nm) clusters

seems

> to help in a number of maladies.

>

> To build a powerful IR (72 LED's) cluster a kit can be purchased

from

> the maker <www.dalewheat.com> or from BGMicro. <www.bgmicro.com>

> Complete kit $25.95 part # LED1069, Assembled and tested $35.95 LED

1070 .

> A weather resistant enclosed version for $59.95.

>

> The PCB part # LED1070, $9.95 can be used to built a RED version

using

> Gilway #E184 LED's (660nm, 2000 mCd, min., 3500 mCd max.) Its power

> output at the led face is:

> At 1.85 V, 20 mA, 2.0 mW

> 2.00 V, 36 mA 3.5 mW

> 2.30 V, 60 mA 5.3 mW

> For continuous wave Operation, 200 Ohms resistors can be used.

>

> For pulsed operation the circuit provide by Walter Cook at

> <www.seanet.com/~waltc/page43.htm> is very useful.

>

> For extensive information on LED's and Laser Diodes, use and

dosages see :

> Therapeutic Lasers Theory and Practice, by G. Baxter,.

> Churchill Livingstone, Publisher.

>

> Last Comment:, Remember that:

>

> Power Density = Irradiance = Total Incident Power / Area. [Watts /

cm^2]

> Radiant Exposure = Energy Density = Total Incident Energy / Area.

> [Joules / cm^2] = [Watts-sec/cm^2]

> Radiant Exposure Also is equal to:

> Total Power Density x Total Time of Irradiation [Watts/cm^2 x

Seconds]

> Walter's schematic produces a frequency of 7 Hz at 50% duty cycle.

> Baxter states that a 4Hz frequency decreases sensitivity to pain

> immediately, Walter's circuit can be easily altered by changing a

couple

> of components .

>

> Sincerely

>

> R

[Guest guest]

Any more Light Therapy Testimonies , I just started reading about IR

LED Light Therapy but can't find anything about it on the

internet ...Seems like doctors don't want us to know about this

either . I became interested when I read this great story from

http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=333 & i=72

-- In , " sotainstruments "

<russ@s...> wrote:

> Hey ,

> Wow you are a great wealth of information!!

> Perhaps I can pick away at your brain? BTW thanks again for the

> technical info on the gauss calculation. :>)

> I would like to calculate the Joules delivered by my LED unit. The

> 660nm LEDs output about 4,000 mcd each. View angle (2 Theta 1/2*)

=

> 16, forward voltage ~2.1 Volts and recommended current drive is

20mA.

> I am driving them at close to 20mA (constant-current).

> It seems the power output is close to the example you showed here

at

> 2.0mW.

> Now, I have a cluster of 60 Red LEDs spaced about 0.2 " apart.

>

> The IR LEDs are 880nm, 1.3Volts, 20mA, View Angle = 20, and output

is

> 30mW/Sr. I am running them at 20mA as well.

> The cluster is also 0.2 " spacing and there are 52 LEDs.

>

> Would the mW/cm2 rating take into account the cluster of LEDs or

is

> it referring to one LED only?

>

> I'm new to all this light stuff!

>

> What's your take on this?

> Thanks Professor,

> Russ :>)

>

>

>

>

> > Hi:

> > Some of you may be interested in the following.

> >

> > For LEDs of kinds :

> > <www.gilway.com>

> > <www.eLumexLEDs.com>

> >

> > Title: About LED's,Candelas and Watts.

> >

> > I shall make some statements, they are at the best of my

knowledge,

> > today. Of course comments and corrections are most welcome.

> >

> > Visible LED's are usually specified in Candela units. This units

> are

> > weighted to the human eye response.

> > When LED's are used for tissue irradiation the important Item is

> the

> > forward (Light going forward, not in all directions) radiant

power,

> > expressed in Watts (or milliwatts) and since Watts x seconds =

to

> > Joules, the dose should be expressed in Joules (watts-second).

> >

> > To obtain the radiant power from LED manufacturers has proven

> rather

> > difficult. So here are some numbers: (Values are approximations)

> >

> > MGMicro LED clusters (from used traffic signals)

> > Red probably 660nm,

> > At 1.8 volts, 20 mA, 600 mCd, 0.65 mW

> > 2.0 45 1000 1.37

> > Approximates Gilway E168

> >

> > Green probably 565 nm

> > At 2.2 Volts , 20mA, 300 mCd, 0.064 mW

> > 2.5 45 600 0.17

> > Approximates Gilway E166

> >

> > As can be seen from the above numbers although the red and the

> green

> > have the same " brightness " (600 mCd) the power emitted by the

red

> is 10

> > times that of the green.

> > This relationship approx. holds for all reds Vs green LED's.

> > Therefore the use of the candela measure can be misleading.

> >

> > Also LED's with wider view angles (2 Omega1/2) and the same

Candela

> have

> > more power output than narrower ones.

> >

> > Infrared LED's are usually specified in milliwatts per

steradian .

> > A steradian is a solid angle (3D's) which having its vertex at

the

> > center of the sphere, cuts off a spherical surface area equal to

> the

> > square of the sphere radius.

> > So in a 1 meter radius sphere an angle of 1 steradian will

encircle

> an

> > area of one square meter.

> > Here care must be exercised, when the specs said an LED has a 20

> mW/sr.

> > It does not mean that if the power is measured in its center

> steradian

> > angle it will be 20 mW's, The power density will be equal to 20

> mW/sr

> > only in the center one hundred of a steradian.

> >

> > So once again the thing that counts is: The total radiant power

> emitted

> > forward.

> >

> > Example: Giway IR LED # E24 specified at 20 mw/sr (typical) has

the

> > following total power:

> >

> > At 1.4 Volts, 20 mA, 3.20 mW at zero distance from LED face.

> > 2.54 mW at 1.0 cm (into a 1cm detector)

> > 1.21 mW at 2.5 cm (into a 1cm detector)

> >

> > However if the power in the center 0.01 sr is measured and then

is

> > multiplied by 100 it will equal to 20mW/sr.

> >

> > In my experience irradiation with IR(880) and Red (660nm)

clusters

> seems

> > to help in a number of maladies.

> >

> > To build a powerful IR (72 LED's) cluster a kit can be purchased

> from

> > the maker <www.dalewheat.com> or from BGMicro. <www.bgmicro.com>

> > Complete kit $25.95 part # LED1069, Assembled and tested $35.95

LED

> 1070 .

> > A weather resistant enclosed version for $59.95.

> >

> > The PCB part # LED1070, $9.95 can be used to built a RED version

> using

> > Gilway #E184 LED's (660nm, 2000 mCd, min., 3500 mCd max.) Its

power

> > output at the led face is:

> > At 1.85 V, 20 mA, 2.0 mW

> > 2.00 V, 36 mA 3.5 mW

> > 2.30 V, 60 mA 5.3 mW

> > For continuous wave Operation, 200 Ohms resistors can be used.

> >

> > For pulsed operation the circuit provide by Walter Cook at

> > <www.seanet.com/~waltc/page43.htm> is very useful.

> >

> > For extensive information on LED's and Laser Diodes, use and

> dosages see :

> > Therapeutic Lasers Theory and Practice, by G. Baxter,.

> > Churchill Livingstone, Publisher.

> >

> > Last Comment:, Remember that:

> >

> > Power Density = Irradiance = Total Incident Power / Area.

[Watts /

> cm^2]

> > Radiant Exposure = Energy Density = Total Incident Energy /

Area.

> > [Joules / cm^2] = [Watts-sec/cm^2]

> > Radiant Exposure Also is equal to:

> > Total Power Density x Total Time of Irradiation [Watts/cm^2 x

> Seconds]

> > Walter's schematic produces a frequency of 7 Hz at 50% duty

cycle.

> > Baxter states that a 4Hz frequency decreases sensitivity to pain

> > immediately, Walter's circuit can be easily altered by changing

a

> couple

> > of components .

> >

> > Sincerely

> >

> > R

[Guest guest]

Hi Dan

There tons of information on infrared light therapy on the internet

just do searches on Far infrared saunas, infrared mineral lamps, infrared

lamps and also on Low Level Laser therapy

and you will find tons of info on all sorts of things

V

----- Original Message -----

From: " Dan " <granadahills2002@...>

> Any more Light Therapy Testimonies , I just started reading about IR

> LED Light Therapy but can't find anything about it on the

> internet ...Seems like doctors don't want us to know about this

> either . I became interested when I read this great story from

> http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=333 & i=72

[Guest guest]

Dan wrote:

> Any more Light Therapy Testimonies , I just started reading about IR

> LED Light Therapy but can't find anything about it on the

> internet...

<snip...>

Have you heard of Google?

http://www.google.com/search?q=ir+led+light+therapy

13,200 hits.

[Guest guest]

I was mainly looking for affordable home unit's .

Dan

> > Any more Light Therapy Testimonies , I just started reading

about IR

> > LED Light Therapy but can't find anything about it on the

> > internet...

> <snip...>

>

> Have you heard of Google?

>

> http://www.google.com/search?q=ir+led+light+therapy

>

> 13,200 hits.

[Guest guest]

Well look on ebay you can get a circuit board tha will hold 72 leds and you

can get a variety of leds for real cheap on other auctions. I recently

bought 200 white leds on ebay for about 40 bucks that included the shipping

from China which was about 20 of it.

And they got here real fast. Also got 100 rea bright red leds for about 17

bucks and put it in one of the boards the hald 72 leds. man is it bright.

cant look at it. run off 12 volts I just use a wall wart to run it.

I think thu board runs arounh 7 bucks and the leds were 17 so tha makes 24

bucks plus a few resistor.

V

Re: SOTA's Light Therapy Unit: First

Testimonial!

> I was mainly looking for affordable home unit's .

> Dan

>

> > > Any more Light Therapy Testimonies , I just started reading

> about IR

> > > LED Light Therapy but can't find anything about it on the

> > > internet...

> > <snip...>

> >

> > Have you heard of Google?

> >

> > http://www.google.com/search?q=ir+led+light+therapy

> >

> > 13,200 hits.

>

>

>

>

>