Re: got my Sota stuff, but I'm scared to use it!!!!

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Hi Elaine. I thought I was the only one going through that. I was so looking forward to trying the Beck protocol until I started reading about detoxing before. So, I started last week with a colon cleanse which will last about a month, and will then do a kidney cleanse and end with a liver cleanse. So it looks like it might be awhile before I actually start using my Sota tools. From what I have been reading, the payoff is great. When I listened to Bob Beck, it just sounded for easy. So, I know exactly what you are going through.....Orrilia

From: misplaced_wonder <elaine@...> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:22:38 PMSubject: got my Sota stuff, but I'm scared to use it!!!!

Hi everyone, this is the first time i have ever been scared to do something that would make me better... but i'm scared about my liver and kidneys... scared that i will make myself sicker... i have never shyed away from something that might cure me before, but i must admit that the feeling that i don't want to do it is going right thru me!! plus i have to go on a course of antibiotics right away coz one of my teeth is infected... any advice? because this really seems like an impossible wall to jump over, i know myself and i can FEEL that these things will just sit in the boxes for quite a while... boooohooooo! ! :(thankselaine

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Elain, forgot to mention that I am using the colloidal silver and ozonated water now while I detox. As for your tooth, maybe the colloidal silver will help? Orrilia

From: misplaced_wonder <elaine@...> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:22:38 PMSubject: got my Sota stuff, but I'm scared to use it!!!!

Hi everyone, this is the first time i have ever been scared to do something that would make me better... but i'm scared about my liver and kidneys... scared that i will make myself sicker... i have never shyed away from something that might cure me before, but i must admit that the feeling that i don't want to do it is going right thru me!! plus i have to go on a course of antibiotics right away coz one of my teeth is infected... any advice? because this really seems like an impossible wall to jump over, i know myself and i can FEEL that these things will just sit in the boxes for quite a while... boooohooooo! ! :(thankselaine

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Hi Orrilia! noooo, you're not the only one! the exact same thing happened to me,

i was so excited about from what bob beck said, then i come here and read the

horror lol... I just put on the bio tuner, because i have anxiety and i felt it

building so i thought i would try it and see if it helped, it's kind of giving

me sharp pains in my head... but one thing i haven't admitted here, coz i'm

ashamed, is that i smoke cigarettes and can't quit, not for lack of trying!

which is also part of the reason i got the bio tuner, because i thought it might

help me quit... but i'm sitting here smoking, with the bio tuner on, and i

wonder if that's going to make things worse... i know,i'm daft... but i do my

best...

thanks for writing,

elaine

>

> Hi Elaine.  I thought I was the only one going through that.  I was so looking

forward to trying the Beck protocol until I started reading about detoxing

before.  So, I started last week with a colon cleanse which will last about a

month, and will then do a kidney cleanse and end with a liver cleanse. So it

looks like it might be awhile before I actually start using my Sota tools.  From

what I have been reading, the payoff is great.  When I listened to Bob Beck, it

just sounded for easy. So, I know exactly what you are going through.....Orrilia

>

>

>

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> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:22:38 PM

> Subject: got my Sota stuff, but I'm scared to use

it!!!!

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>

>

>

>

> Hi everyone, this is the first time i have ever been scared to do something

that would make me better... but i'm scared about my liver and kidneys... scared

that i will make myself sicker... i have never shyed away from something that

might cure me before, but i must admit that the feeling that i don't want to do

it is going right thru me!! plus i have to go on a course of antibiotics right

away coz one of my teeth is infected... any advice? because this really seems

like an impossible wall to jump over, i know myself and i can FEEL that these

things will just sit in the boxes for quite a while... boooohooooo! !

>

> thanks

> elaine

>

>

>

>

>

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Elaine,If you are not ready/afraid, take antibiotics, let your tooth heal. Wait a week or two for the antibiotics to clear you body. Once it's done, do BE and CS. We are going to be for you, at least you can try it for 5 min a day, if you like it, increase by 5 min a day up to 2 hrs with BE. Hope it helps!SergeFrom: misplaced_wonder <elaine@...>Subject: got my Sota stuff, but I'm scared to use it!!!! Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 8:22 PM

Hi everyone, this is the first time i have ever been scared to do something that would make me better... but i'm scared about my liver and kidneys... scared that i will make myself sicker... i have never shyed away from something that might cure me before, but i must admit that the feeling that i don't want to do it is going right thru me!! plus i have to go on a course of antibiotics right away coz one of my teeth is infected... any advice? because this really seems like an impossible wall to jump over, i know myself and i can FEEL that these things will just sit in the boxes for quite a while... boooohooooo! !

thanks

elaine

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don't use CS and antibiotics at the same time. it's ok with some but not others, and i wouldn't risk wasting the abx if you're going to use it... you can find the 4 groups of drugs that are incompatible on the web somewhere... includes penicillins, tetracyclines, quinalones, and another i can never remember. there's variations of all these... those are group names i believe... so it could take a bit of research to know if what you're going to use is one of them unless it's real obvious that it is.

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of jr orriliaSent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:39 PM Subject: Re: got my Sota stuff, but I'm scared to use it!!!!

Elain, forgot to mention that I am using the colloidal silver and ozonated water now while I detox. As for your tooth, maybe the colloidal silver will help? Orrilia

From: misplaced_wonder <elaine@...> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:22:38 PMSubject: got my Sota stuff, but I'm scared to use it!!!!

Hi everyone, this is the first time i have ever been scared to do something that would make me better... but i'm scared about my liver and kidneys... scared that i will make myself sicker... i have never shyed away from something that might cure me before, but i must admit that the feeling that i don't want to do it is going right thru me!! plus i have to go on a course of antibiotics right away coz one of my teeth is infected... any advice? because this really seems like an impossible wall to jump over, i know myself and i can FEEL that these things will just sit in the boxes for quite a while... boooohooooo! ! :(thankselaine

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there's nothing to worry about your liver and kidneys that i can think of.

what are you sick with now that you think you could get sicker and need to

be cured of?

sorry, but i forget your issues in favor of some of my own are overwhelming

my mind... plus since my sleep schedule is all screwed up lately from work.

if you're going to do the abx for the dental infection then it's best to

wait until after that's done to do the Beck stuff. meanwhile, you can think

about it. you might think better when the dental infection is killed off.

> got my Sota stuff, but

> I'm scared to use it!!!!

>

> Hi everyone, this is the first time i have ever been scared

> to do something that would make me better... but i'm scared

> about my liver and kidneys... scared that i will make myself

> sicker... i have never shyed away from something that might

> cure me before, but i must admit that the feeling that i

> don't want to do it is going right thru me!! plus i have to

> go on a course of antibiotics right away coz one of my teeth

> is infected... any advice? because this really seems like an

> impossible wall to jump over, i know myself and i can FEEL

> that these things will just sit in the boxes for quite a

> while... boooohooooo!!

>

> thanks

> elaine

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

c'mon, at least don't smoke while using the BT7. it's at least too hard on

your self image.

> got my Sota stuff,

> but I'm scared to use it!!!!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi everyone, this is the first time i have ever been scared

> to do something that would make me better... but i'm scared

> about my liver and kidneys... scared that i will make myself

> sicker... i have never shyed away from something that might

> cure me before, but i must admit that the feeling that i

> don't want to do it is going right thru me!! plus i have to

> go on a course of antibiotics right away coz one of my teeth

> is infected... any advice? because this really seems like an

> impossible wall to jump over, i know myself and i can FEEL

> that these things will just sit in the boxes for quite a

> while... boooohooooo! !

> >

> > thanks

> > elaine

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> __________________________________________________________________

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> bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now

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Hi Serge, I like your name thank you for the encouragement! ok i will try

it for 5 minutes a day, trying to increase it, until i get my tooth dealt with,

and will look for a liver cleanse at my health food store in the mean time... i

haven't got the salt yet either, so the bio tuner hurt my ears... i have red

marks on them... i will go to the health food store tomorrow... i think the bio

tuner calmed me down tho, which is kind of exciting!

cheers

elaine

> From: misplaced_wonder <elaine@...>

> Subject: got my Sota stuff, but I'm scared to use

it!!!!

>

> Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 8:22 PM

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> Hi everyone, this is the first time i have ever been scared to do

something that would make me better... but i'm scared about my liver and

kidneys... scared that i will make myself sicker... i have never shyed away from

something that might cure me before, but i must admit that the feeling that i

don't want to do it is going right thru me!! plus i have to go on a course of

antibiotics right away coz one of my teeth is infected... any advice? because

this really seems like an impossible wall to jump over, i know myself and i can

FEEL that these things will just sit in the boxes for quite a while...

boooohooooo! !

>

>

>

> thanks

>

> elaine

>

[Guest guest]

hi bob! it's hard to say what i'm sick with, i've always been the 'mysterious

illness' type, like my mother before me... i used to have baaaad CFS, but Jesus

healed me of that but it's like i didn't get all the way healed, like i still

have the fibromyalgia part of it, i have much body pain, and there's something

wrong with me such that i'm even afraid to go out, because i'm afraid that i

will not be able to make it very far.. so i don't go out much.. plus i have bad

insomnia, i quit sleeping pills about two months ago tho... but i'm still on

meds for pain, and anxiety disorder.. i got sick enuff that i went kind of

insane... i'm worried about my liver and kidneys because i always wake up in

the morning with middle back pain that isn't my back, it's like internal organs

or something, and i always just thought i had sick kidneys... plus everyone here

talks about the need to do cleanses first... so i thought i would get sicker

from doing the BE... what do you think about it all?

thanks!

elaine

>

> there's nothing to worry about your liver and kidneys that i can think of.

> what are you sick with now that you think you could get sicker and need to

> be cured of?

> sorry, but i forget your issues in favor of some of my own are overwhelming

> my mind... plus since my sleep schedule is all screwed up lately from work.

>

> if you're going to do the abx for the dental infection then it's best to

> wait until after that's done to do the Beck stuff. meanwhile, you can think

> about it. you might think better when the dental infection is killed off.

>

>

> > got my Sota stuff, but

> > I'm scared to use it!!!!

> >

> > Hi everyone, this is the first time i have ever been scared

> > to do something that would make me better... but i'm scared

> > about my liver and kidneys... scared that i will make myself

> > sicker... i have never shyed away from something that might

> > cure me before, but i must admit that the feeling that i

> > don't want to do it is going right thru me!! plus i have to

> > go on a course of antibiotics right away coz one of my teeth

> > is infected... any advice? because this really seems like an

> > impossible wall to jump over, i know myself and i can FEEL

> > that these things will just sit in the boxes for quite a

> > while... boooohooooo!!

> >

> > thanks

> > elaine

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

LOL Bob, thanks for not coming down on me hard about smoking, i have so much

shame about it already!

> > >

> > > Hi Elaine.  I thought I was the only one going through

> > that.  I was so looking forward to trying the Beck protocol

> > until I started reading about detoxing before.  So, I started

> > last week with a colon cleanse which will last about a month,

> > and will then do a kidney cleanse and end with a liver

> > cleanse. So it looks like it might be awhile before I

> > actually start using my Sota tools.  From what I have been

> > reading, the payoff is great.  When I listened to Bob Beck,

> > it just sounded for easy. So, I know exactly what you are

> > going through.....Orrilia

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: misplaced_wonder <elaine@>

> > >

> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:22:38 PM

> > > Subject: got my Sota stuff,

> > but I'm scared to use it!!!!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi everyone, this is the first time i have ever been scared

> > to do something that would make me better... but i'm scared

> > about my liver and kidneys... scared that i will make myself

> > sicker... i have never shyed away from something that might

> > cure me before, but i must admit that the feeling that i

> > don't want to do it is going right thru me!! plus i have to

> > go on a course of antibiotics right away coz one of my teeth

> > is infected... any advice? because this really seems like an

> > impossible wall to jump over, i know myself and i can FEEL

> > that these things will just sit in the boxes for quite a

> > while... boooohooooo! !

> > >

> > > thanks

> > > elaine

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > __________________________________________________________________

> > > Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and

> > bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now

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> >

> >

> >

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> >

> >

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>

> LOL Bob, thanks for not coming down on me hard about smoking, i have so much

shame about it already!

>

> Smoking is hard to stop. I use to smoke and every now and then I still feel

like lighting up.

What I've heard is it effects the brain the same way as heroin in a pleasurable

way. There is a drug (called wellbutrin) that does something to the brain the

mimics the pleasure you get with a cigarette. My husband went on it to quit

smoking. What he said was the cigarettes just weren't doing what they use to

for him. He'd light up and then simply didn't want one. Went from smoking a

pack to only 3 a day, then ended up having bypass surgery and he never went

back.

The trick it to quit before you need the bypass surgery. Might want to look

into the drug. It's actually an antidepressant but through some smoke study,

they discovered it helps people come off the cigarettes.

I just stopped the hard way. It was hard.

Gail

>

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>

> but i'm still on meds for pain, and anxiety disorder.. i got sick enuff that i

went kind of insane... i'm worried about my liver and kidneys because i always

wake up in the morning with middle back pain that isn't my back, it's like

internal organs or something, and i always just thought i had sick kidneys...

plus everyone here talks about the need to do cleanses first... so i thought i

would get sicker from doing the BE... what do you think about it all?

>

> thanks!

> elaine

>

> Hi Elaine,

Pain between the shoulder blades is an indication of a congested liver. Pain in

the low back is often the adrenals. Some mistake it for kidney pain. Raw

bovine adrenals is a good supplement along with a a good quality salt & vitamin

C for the adrenals. You might want to address your adrenals firsts and see if

that will help your anxiety.

Take care,

Gail

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if you like coffee more than 1 cup/day with your smokes especially, but even

without them in the picture, and don't drink much water you're likely

dehydrated even if you pee every time you drink something. this will cause

kidney problems. been there, done that..for too many years. drinking

plenty of water and restricting coffee, sodas, caffeine, alcohol to a

one-a-day max helped me a lot. i now rarely have the kidney pains, where i

used to have to work as a painter all day while barely being able to bend

over.

since i found i have hep-C after it finally going acute i've changed habits

a lot. CS saved my life when it was close to suicide time. dropping all

the bad-for-liver stuff (except for the occasional treats and my now

restricted cigar addiction) along with CS has me in the best general health

of the previous 4 decades. the acute hepC symptoms included fibromyalgia,

all over itching, CFS, brain fog, irritability, depression, insomnia

sometimes, excessive sleep other times, swollen painful feet, bad diet

habits and stress/anxiety due to all those other things and the poverty and

inability to manage life it created. when it was chronic at low activity

for decades it only undermined quality of life a few zillion ways. make

sure you have ruled out hepatitis of all types as a source of chronic

trouble... consider getting a liver panel with tests for antibodies.

in any case be kind to your liver and kidneys.

get out and take a walk at least when the sun is out, and supplement vit D3.

take a phone with you in case you can't make it home, or go where there's

people around to call for help. sunshine and exercise helps overcome

insomnia.

the cigarettes are probably your worst enemy, while pretending to be your

only good friend. the tobacco demon is a lying conniving seductive bitch

with only the power that you feed it... however it has no divorce lawyer and

you can probably win. it wants you to think it's the answer when it's the

exact opposite. sic jesus on the bitch... but jesus might more likely want

you to get tough and do the work yourself while he only subtly helps from

the backround somewhere, and sends clues and just enough to make it happen.

> got my Sota stuff, but

> > > I'm scared to use it!!!!

> > >

> > > Hi everyone, this is the first time i have ever been scared

> > > to do something that would make me better... but i'm scared

> > > about my liver and kidneys... scared that i will make myself

> > > sicker... i have never shyed away from something that might

> > > cure me before, but i must admit that the feeling that i

> > > don't want to do it is going right thru me!! plus i have to

> > > go on a course of antibiotics right away coz one of my teeth

> > > is infected... any advice? because this really seems like an

> > > impossible wall to jump over, i know myself and i can FEEL

> > > that these things will just sit in the boxes for quite a

> > > while... boooohooooo!!

> > >

> > > thanks

> > > elaine

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Thank you! I'm trying so hard to quit!! I can't take wellbutrin though, it

increases the anxiety! My husband has used it in the past tho, but me i'm like

ONE PILL and i'm off to a panic attack... i'm glad you quit, i might have to try

to quit the hard way again, if i'm going to cleanse myself, i must get

serious... not that i'm not serious every time i try and quit lol

cheers

elaine

> >

> > LOL Bob, thanks for not coming down on me hard about smoking, i have so much

shame about it already!

> >

> > Smoking is hard to stop. I use to smoke and every now and then I still feel

like lighting up.

>

> What I've heard is it effects the brain the same way as heroin in a

pleasurable way. There is a drug (called wellbutrin) that does something to the

brain the mimics the pleasure you get with a cigarette. My husband went on it

to quit smoking. What he said was the cigarettes just weren't doing what they

use to for him. He'd light up and then simply didn't want one. Went from

smoking a pack to only 3 a day, then ended up having bypass surgery and he never

went back.

>

> The trick it to quit before you need the bypass surgery. Might want to

look into the drug. It's actually an antidepressant but through some smoke

study, they discovered it helps people come off the cigarettes.

>

> I just stopped the hard way. It was hard.

>

> Gail

> >

>

[Guest guest]

thanks for that Gail! I never thought of my adrenals!! I was going to do the

salt/Vit C thing anyway, so i'll look into the bovine adrenal supplement as

well... it does sound like you could be onto something, tho i wouldn't say my

pain is in low low back, it's more between my ribs and hips....

cheers

elaine

> >

> > but i'm still on meds for pain, and anxiety disorder.. i got sick enuff that

i went kind of insane... i'm worried about my liver and kidneys because i

always wake up in the morning with middle back pain that isn't my back, it's

like internal organs or something, and i always just thought i had sick

kidneys... plus everyone here talks about the need to do cleanses first... so i

thought i would get sicker from doing the BE... what do you think about it all?

> >

> > thanks!

> > elaine

> >

> > Hi Elaine,

>

> Pain between the shoulder blades is an indication of a congested liver. Pain

in the low back is often the adrenals. Some mistake it for kidney pain. Raw

bovine adrenals is a good supplement along with a a good quality salt & vitamin

C for the adrenals. You might want to address your adrenals firsts and see if

that will help your anxiety.

>

> Take care,

>

> Gail

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bob! I know I am dehydrated from drinking soda, that goes with the smoking,

i don't drink much soda when i'm not smoking... as far as hepatitis goes, i'm

not sure i could convince my doc to test for that, my doc is the 'when in doubt,

do nothing' type... about the walking, i intend to try to walk up and down the

street in front of my house... about quitting smoking, I have begged God for

help in that area sooooo many times! do you know how the BT works with

addiction? do you quite BEFORE you use it? or is it supposed to take away your

addictive desire slowly over time? I " m a bit overwhelmed about how to start on

this stuff!!

thanks!

elaine

> > >

> > > there's nothing to worry about your liver and kidneys that

> > i can think of.

> > > what are you sick with now that you think you could get

> > sicker and need to

> > > be cured of?

> > > sorry, but i forget your issues in favor of some of my own

> > are overwhelming

> > > my mind... plus since my sleep schedule is all screwed up

> > lately from work.

> > >

> > > if you're going to do the abx for the dental infection then

> > it's best to

> > > wait until after that's done to do the Beck stuff.

> > meanwhile, you can think

> > > about it. you might think better when the dental infection

> > is killed off.

> > >

> > >

> > > > got my Sota stuff, but

> > > > I'm scared to use it!!!!

> > > >

> > > > Hi everyone, this is the first time i have ever been scared

> > > > to do something that would make me better... but i'm scared

> > > > about my liver and kidneys... scared that i will make myself

> > > > sicker... i have never shyed away from something that might

> > > > cure me before, but i must admit that the feeling that i

> > > > don't want to do it is going right thru me!! plus i have to

> > > > go on a course of antibiotics right away coz one of my teeth

> > > > is infected... any advice? because this really seems like an

> > > > impossible wall to jump over, i know myself and i can FEEL

> > > > that these things will just sit in the boxes for quite a

> > > > while... boooohooooo!!

> > > >

> > > > thanks

> > > > elaine

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Elaine. I myself quit smoking 5 years ago. And what helped me was telling myself that the cravings did not hurt. When the craving became intense, I knew it was temporary and painless, and I figured this was better than being not well due to smoking and feeling pain. Believe me when I say the day will come for you when you realize that "freedom" is more important. And that was the biggest payoff, not money, not health benefits, but the freedom of not having to worry about where and when I could smoke. I wish you the very best of luck in this adventure. Orrilia

From: misplaced_wonder <elaine@...> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 10:12:17 PMSubject: Re: got my Sota stuff, but I'm scared to use it!!!!

Hi Orrilia! noooo, you're not the only one! the exact same thing happened to me, i was so excited about from what bob beck said, then i come here and read the horror lol... I just put on the bio tuner, because i have anxiety and i felt it building so i thought i would try it and see if it helped, it's kind of giving me sharp pains in my head... but one thing i haven't admitted here, coz i'm ashamed, is that i smoke cigarettes and can't quit, not for lack of trying! which is also part of the reason i got the bio tuner, because i thought it might help me quit... but i'm sitting here smoking, with the bio tuner on, and i wonder if that's going to make things worse... i know,i'm daft... but i do my best...thanks for writing,elaine >> Hi Elaine. I thought I was the only one going through that. I was so looking forward to trying the Beck protocol until I started reading about detoxing before. So, I started last week with a colon cleanse which will last about a month, and will then do a kidney cleanse and end with a liver cleanse. So it looks like it might be awhile before I actually start using my Sota tools. From what I have been reading, the payoff is great. When I listened to Bob Beck, it just sounded for easy. So, I know exactly what you are going through..... Orrilia> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> From: misplaced_wonder <elaine@...>> Beck-blood-electrif

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Elaine, just wanted to know if you use any kind of artificial sweeteners (since you described that you had fibromyalgia symptoms) ? If yes, you should get off of those too. They are poison. Orrilia

From: misplaced_wonder <elaine@...> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:19:08 PMSubject: Re: got my Sota stuff, but I'm scared to use it!!!!

hi bob! it's hard to say what i'm sick with, i've always been the 'mysterious illness' type, like my mother before me... i used to have baaaad CFS, but Jesus healed me of that but it's like i didn't get all the way healed, like i still have the fibromyalgia part of it, i have much body pain, and there's something wrong with me such that i'm even afraid to go out, because i'm afraid that i will not be able to make it very far.. so i don't go out much.. plus i have bad insomnia, i quit sleeping pills about two months ago tho... but i'm still on meds for pain, and anxiety disorder.. i got sick enuff that i went kind of insane... i'm worried about my liver and kidneys because i always wake up in the morning with middle back pain that isn't my back, it's like internal organs or something, and i always just thought i had sick kidneys... plus everyone here talks about the need to do cleanses first... so i thought i would get sicker from doing the BE...

what do you think about it all?thanks!elaine>> there's nothing to worry about your liver and kidneys that i can think of.> what are you sick with now that you think you could get sicker and need to> be cured of? > sorry, but i forget your issues in favor of some of my own are overwhelming> my mind... plus since my sleep schedule is all screwed up lately from work.> > if you're going to do the abx for the dental infection then it's best to> wait until after that's done to do the Beck stuff. meanwhile, you can think> about it. you might think better when the dental infection is killed off.> > > >

[beck-blood- electrification] got my Sota stuff, but > > I'm scared to use it!!!!> > > > Hi everyone, this is the first time i have

ever been scared > > to do something that would make me better... but i'm scared > > about my liver and kidneys... scared that i will make myself > > sicker... i have never shyed away from something that might > > cure me before, but i must admit that the feeling that i > > don't want to do it is going right thru me!! plus i have to > > go on a course of antibiotics right away coz one of my teeth > > is infected... any advice? because this really seems like an > > impossible wall to jump over, i know myself and i can FEEL > > that these things will just sit in the boxes for quite a > > while... boooohooooo! ! > > > > thanks> > elaine> > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > >

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From: jr orrilia <dallas6568@...>Subject: Re: Re: got my Sota stuff, but I'm scared to use it!!!! Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 4:18 AM

Elaine, just wanted to know if you use any kind of artificial sweeteners (since you described that you had fibromyalgia symptoms) ? If yes, you should get off of those too. They are poison. Orrilia

From: misplaced_wonder <elaine@wonderstruck .com>Beck-blood-electrif ication@gro ups.comSent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:19:08 PMSubject: [beck-blood- electrification] Re: got my Sota stuff, but I'm scared to use it!!!!

hi bob! it's hard to say what i'm sick with, i've always been the 'mysterious illness' type, like my mother before me... i used to have baaaad CFS, but Jesus healed me of that but it's like i didn't get all the way healed, like i still have the fibromyalgia part of it, i have much body pain, and there's something wrong with me such that i'm even afraid to go out, because i'm afraid that i will not be able to make it very far.. so i don't go out much.. plus i have bad insomnia, i quit sleeping pills about two months ago tho... but i'm still on meds for pain, and anxiety disorder.. i got sick enuff that i went kind of insane... i'm worried about my liver and kidneys because i always wake up in the morning with middle back pain that isn't my back, it's like internal organs or something, and i always just thought i had sick kidneys... plus everyone here talks about the need to do cleanses first... so i thought i would get sicker from doing the BE...

what do you think about it all?thanks!elaine>> there's nothing to worry about your liver and kidneys that i can think of.> what are you sick with now that you think you could get sicker and need to> be cured of? > sorry, but i forget your issues in favor of some of my own are overwhelming> my mind... plus since my sleep schedule is all screwed up lately from work.> > if you're going to do the abx for the dental infection then it's best to> wait until after that's done to do the Beck stuff. meanwhile, you can think> about it. you might think better when the dental infection is killed off.> > > > [beck-blood- electrification] got my Sota stuff, but > > I'm scared to use it!!!!> > > > Hi everyone, this is the first time i have ever been scared > > to do something that would make me better... but i'm scared > > about my liver and kidneys... scared that i will make myself > > sicker... i have never shyed away from something that

might > > cure me before, but i must admit that the feeling that i > > don't want to do it is going right thru me!! plus i have to > > go on a course of antibiotics right away coz one of my teeth > > is infected... any advice? because this really seems like an > > impossible wall to jump over, i know myself and i can FEEL > > that these things will just sit in the boxes for quite a > > while... boooohooooo! ! > > > > thanks> > elaine> > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------> > > >

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Hi Bob, concerning your comment not to use CS and antibiotics at the same time, I just want to make I do not do this the future. I just wanted to know what would happen? It is just that I never heard of this. Thanks Orrilia

From: bob Larson <bobList@...> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:03:23 PMSubject: RE: got my Sota stuff, but I'm scared to use it!!!!

don't use CS and antibiotics at the same time. it's ok with some but not others, and i wouldn't risk wasting the abx if you're going to use it... you can find the 4 groups of drugs that are incompatible on the web somewhere... includes penicillins, tetracyclines, quinalones, and another i can never remember. there's variations of all these... those are group names i believe... so it could take a bit of research to know if what you're going to use is one of them unless it's real obvious that it is.

From: Beck-blood-electrif ication@gro ups.com [mailto:Beck- blood-electrific ation@group s.com] On Behalf Of jr orriliaSent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:39 PMBeck-blood-electrif ication@gro ups.comSubject: Re: [beck-blood- electrification] got my Sota stuff, but I'm scared to use it!!!!

Elain, forgot to mention that I am using the colloidal silver and ozonated water now while I detox. As for your tooth, maybe the colloidal silver will help? Orrilia

From: misplaced_wonder <elaine@wonderstruck .com>Beck-blood-electrif ication@gro ups.comSent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:22:38 PMSubject: [beck-blood- electrification] got my Sota stuff, but I'm scared to use it!!!!

Hi everyone, this is the first time i have ever been scared to do something that would make me better... but i'm scared about my liver and kidneys... scared that i will make myself sicker... i have never shyed away from something that might cure me before, but i must admit that the feeling that i don't want to do it is going right thru me!! plus i have to go on a course of antibiotics right away coz one of my teeth is infected... any advice? because this really seems like an impossible wall to jump over, i know myself and i can FEEL that these things will just sit in the boxes for quite a while... boooohooooo! ! :(thankselaine

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i think the way it works is the power of the CS is used in destroying the abx, so both are wasted. no toxic reaction except that the problem you're dealing with is getting worse from being untreated while the body has a bunch of extra mess to clean up. that's guesswork on my part. the known incompatibility with the 4 drug groups isn't my guesswork, but i haven't come across any details about just what happens. i think it's a safe bet that any live culture abx would simply be killed by CS... aren't live culture abx's all required to be refrigerated? i don't think that all the members of the 4 drug groups are live cultures, but not sure at all.

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of jr orriliaSent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 8:41 AM Subject: Re: got my Sota stuff, but I'm scared to use it!!!!

Hi Bob, concerning your comment not to use CS and antibiotics at the same time, I just want to make I do not do this the future. I just wanted to know what would happen? It is just that I never heard of this. Thanks Orrilia

From: bob Larson <bobList@...> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:03:23 PMSubject: RE: got my Sota stuff, but I'm scared to use it!!!!

don't use CS and antibiotics at the same time. it's ok with some but not others, and i wouldn't risk wasting the abx if you're going to use it... you can find the 4 groups of drugs that are incompatible on the web somewhere... includes penicillins, tetracyclines, quinalones, and another i can never remember. there's variations of all these... those are group names i believe... so it could take a bit of research to know if what you're going to use is one of them unless it's real obvious that it is.

From: Beck-blood-electrif ication@gro ups.com [mailto:Beck- blood-electrific ation@group s.com] On Behalf Of jr orriliaSent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:39 PMBeck-blood-electrif ication@gro ups.comSubject: Re: [beck-blood- electrification] got my Sota stuff, but I'm scared to use it!!!!

Elain, forgot to mention that I am using the colloidal silver and ozonated water now while I detox. As for your tooth, maybe the colloidal silver will help? Orrilia

From: misplaced_wonder <elaine@wonderstruck .com>Beck-blood-electrif ication@gro ups.comSent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:22:38 PMSubject: [beck-blood- electrification] got my Sota stuff, but I'm scared to use it!!!!

Hi everyone, this is the first time i have ever been scared to do something that would make me better... but i'm scared about my liver and kidneys... scared that i will make myself sicker... i have never shyed away from something that might cure me before, but i must admit that the feeling that i don't want to do it is going right thru me!! plus i have to go on a course of antibiotics right away coz one of my teeth is infected... any advice? because this really seems like an impossible wall to jump over, i know myself and i can FEEL that these things will just sit in the boxes for quite a while... boooohooooo! ! :(thankselaine

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i can't say. i have a BT and a cigar habit.

i quit for most of 2007, replacing tobacco with rollerblades and using the

BT quite a bit.

it seems just when i'm doing well at anything, on the verge of meaningful

success there's always something/somebody has to blow it all away... which

happened. i quit cigs in '79 after about 5 years of hell being obviously

poisoned and sick but needing to find a handle on the inner strength to deal

with it. i found i had to find a place where i had a chance, that my psych

equilibrium is too sensitive to influences around me such that the energy

fields of some places were impossible for me. in '98 my life took a

discouraging tumble and amidst that i started cigars. i don't inhale, and

make one last a couple days, and don't smoke the american tobacco co.

chemical laden toxic garbage. i might be smoking DDT used in latin america,

but at least i don't taste it. i don't want to quit as i have nothing else

that reliably gives me needed pleasure. i want to just keep myself propped

up and patched together so i can smoke and enjoy it. however it will

increase the rate of liver disease a lot thus shortening the time before i'm

debilitated and dying, so i still sometimes work on trying to find an

acceptable way to live that works in a sick twisted world of stupidity and

evil.

my inclination is to think that using the BT while smoking right at the same

time would be programming the mind to get habituated to doing that looking

for endorphin triggers.

i think i read that you don't have to completely quit smoking first... it

works by getting the mind to produce endorphins without the need for the

substance to trigger it. so once you can do that, it's easier to leave the

substance alone.

> got my Sota stuff, but

> > > > > I'm scared to use it!!!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi everyone, this is the first time i have ever been scared

> > > > > to do something that would make me better... but i'm scared

> > > > > about my liver and kidneys... scared that i will make myself

> > > > > sicker... i have never shyed away from something that might

> > > > > cure me before, but i must admit that the feeling that i

> > > > > don't want to do it is going right thru me!! plus i have to

> > > > > go on a course of antibiotics right away coz one of my teeth

> > > > > is infected... any advice? because this really seems like an

> > > > > impossible wall to jump over, i know myself and i can FEEL

> > > > > that these things will just sit in the boxes for quite a

> > > > > while... boooohooooo!!

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks

> > > > > elaine

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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> > > > >

> > > > >

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Look at it this way, it's not an all or nothing situation. You can start out with a minimal amount of minutes and very slowly work your way up. As you work your way up (in minutes per session) you will more and more become accustomed to the side effects IF you are very infected and really need this cleansing. If not, then you will never feel anything and will wonder if it is such a magic box after all.

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I wonder how common side effects, including herxing (if you can call that a

" side effect " ) occur with blood electrification. All I can say is that I

wish I'd done some serious liver cleansing first!!

Oh, well, live and learn....

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Forrest writes:

> Look at it this way, it's not an all or nothing situation. You can start out

with a minimal amount of minutes and very slowly work your way up. As you work

your way up (in minutes per session) you will more and more become accustomed to

the side effects IF you are very infected and really need this cleansing. If

not, then you will never feel anything and will wonder if it is such a magic box

after all.

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isn't the magnetic pulser supposed to eliminate toothpain?

Introduction

It is CRITICAL to stop a toothache in its tracks. The alternative is

to have a root canal, and root canals can cause cancer (e.g. especially

breast cancer), arthritis, etc. etc. Root canals are evil, and the

American Dental Association is totally corrupt.

Thus, do EVERYTHING in your power to stop the toothache. It

you can't, your best option is to have the tooth pulled, though it is

best to use a biological dentist or holistic dentist to do that.

Also, don't eat a lot while fighting a toothache. It causes the

blood to go to the stomach and you need the blood available to go to

the teeth. Also, no sugar or white flour (they feed any microbes) or

very acidic things like soda pops.

Most of the items you need you probably don't have in your home and

they can only be purchased over the Internet. If you don't have

them now, learn from your lesson and buy them for the next time you

have to deal with a toothache!! They are useful for a wide range of

health problems.

The Bob Beck Protocol Protocol

Toothaches (unless they are caused by the trauma of a dentist drill)

are cause by a microbe, generally a bacteria. The Bob Beck Protocol is

used to cure AIDS / HIV, so you know it is a superb microbe fighter.

The Bob Beck Protocol has four parts, however, in order of priority,

this is the order you should buy them (depending on your budget) for a

toothache:

1) The Magnetic Pulser,

2) The Blood Purifier,

3) Colloidal Silver,

4) The Water Ozonator (totally optional)

For toothaches and inflammation the Magnetic Pulser is the jewel of

the Bob Beck Protocol. If you point it at the problem tooth (slightly

change the angle it is pointing after every pulse), 20 minutes on, 20

minutes off, 20 minutes on, for two or three times a day, it will stop

the toothache in its tracks.

The Blood Purifier removes microbes from the circulating blood. This

is critical to do, but it may take 3 or 4 days to become effective.

The Bob Beck Protocol is a cure for more than 200 different

microbe-caused diseases. You have to buy this from the Internet because

it is used as an alternative treatment for AIDS, cancer, etc.

See:

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