Re: Ozone and AntiOxidants

[Guest guest]

Dear Wes,

Ummm, not quite.

The diet supplies vitamins that have been lumped into a group labeled as

anti-oxidants. These are Vitamin A, Vitamin C and Vitamin E.

Yet they do not prevent the process of oxidation, which is life-giving. In

fact they enhance it. If they are in short supply, the process of oxidation

is inhibited. Thus they are actually pro-oxidation. A paradox, indeed.

An oxidant is an electron receiver.

An anti-oxidant is an electron donator.

So it would be less confusing to refer to these critical vitamins as

electron donors.

Regarding the other types of anti-oxidant supplements taken by mouth,

are they getting through the stomach acid, and are they getting to the

cells?

SOD (superoxide dismutase) was widely promoted five years ago as

an anti-oxidant supplement, until it was discovered that it was mostly

broken

down by the gastric juices, and provided little benefit.

What is the status of the other anti-oxidants? Are they beneficial?

Whose data do we have to vouch for them? The manufacturers.

Enzymes are produced in the body constantly to handle oxidation byproducts.

Some of these enzymes are glutathione peroxidase, superoxide dismutase,

catalase, reductase. They protect cells at all times. When their action is

blocked by the presence of UNOXIDIZED toxins, then damage can occur.

So the course to take is either :

1) increase oxidation to eliminate toxins, or

2) increase the amount of enzymes

How many enzymes does the cell need? Only the body knows.

Which cells are most in need? Only the body knows.

So dosing with antioxidants to 'help out' is problematic.

Why not let the body handle the situation?

How about :

1) increasing oxidation to burn the toxic garbage off, and

2) increasing the body's PRODUCTION of protective enzymes, exactly

where they are needed

So what could possibly do all that?

OZONE THERAPY.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH

ozonating water

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> > > > hi,

> > > > should one take antioxidants before, during or after drinking lots

of

> > > > ozonated water? does taking the antioxidants during cause the ozone

not

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> > > > work as well? will i always feel like i am having a hangover when i

> > drink

> > > it

> > > > or will it eventually stop giving me that feeling?

> > > > thank you,

> > > > joel

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Saul,

That help me understand the situaiton a lot better! You mentioned that SOD

doesn't get past the stomach acids very well...is there another way to

supplement needed enzymes without them being broken down before they do any

good?

wes

> Ummm, not quite.

>

> The diet supplies vitamins that have been lumped into a group labeled as

> anti-oxidants. These are Vitamin A, Vitamin C and Vitamin E.

> Yet they do not prevent the process of oxidation, which is life-giving. In

> fact they enhance it. If they are in short supply, the process of oxidation

> is inhibited. Thus they are actually pro-oxidation. A paradox, indeed.

>

> An oxidant is an electron receiver.

> An anti-oxidant is an electron donator.

>

> So it would be less confusing to refer to these critical vitamins as

> electron donors.

>

> Regarding the other types of anti-oxidant supplements taken by mouth,

> are they getting through the stomach acid, and are they getting to the

> cells?

> SOD (superoxide dismutase) was widely promoted five years ago as

> an anti-oxidant supplement, until it was discovered that it was mostly

> broken

> down by the gastric juices, and provided little benefit.

>

> What is the status of the other anti-oxidants? Are they beneficial?

> Whose data do we have to vouch for them? The manufacturers.

>

> Enzymes are produced in the body constantly to handle oxidation byproducts.

> Some of these enzymes are glutathione peroxidase, superoxide dismutase,

> catalase, reductase. They protect cells at all times. When their action is

> blocked by the presence of UNOXIDIZED toxins, then damage can occur.

>

> So the course to take is either :

> 1) increase oxidation to eliminate toxins, or

> 2) increase the amount of enzymes

>

> How many enzymes does the cell need? Only the body knows.

> Which cells are most in need? Only the body knows.

>

> So dosing with antioxidants to 'help out' is problematic.

>

> Why not let the body handle the situation?

>

> How about :

> 1) increasing oxidation to burn the toxic garbage off, and

> 2) increasing the body's PRODUCTION of protective enzymes, exactly

>

w/peace

wes bennett

wesbenn@...

<A HREF= " http://www.wesbennett.com " >wes bennett photography & design</A>

[Guest guest]

Dear Wes,

Depends on the enzymes in question.

Digestive enzymes are no problem.

Other ones might go in sublingually.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH

Re: ozone and antioxidants

> Thanks Saul,

> That help me understand the situaiton a lot better! You mentioned that

SOD

> doesn't get past the stomach acids very well...is there another way to

> supplement needed enzymes without them being broken down before they do

any

> good?

> wes

>

> > Ummm, not quite.

> >

> > The diet supplies vitamins that have been lumped into a group labeled as

> > anti-oxidants. These are Vitamin A, Vitamin C and Vitamin E.

> > Yet they do not prevent the process of oxidation, which is life-giving.

In

> > fact they enhance it. If they are in short supply, the process of

oxidation

> > is inhibited. Thus they are actually pro-oxidation. A paradox, indeed.

> >

> > An oxidant is an electron receiver.

> > An anti-oxidant is an electron donator.

> >

> > So it would be less confusing to refer to these critical vitamins as

> > electron donors.

> >

> > Regarding the other types of anti-oxidant supplements taken by mouth,

> > are they getting through the stomach acid, and are they getting to the

> > cells?

> > SOD (superoxide dismutase) was widely promoted five years ago as

> > an anti-oxidant supplement, until it was discovered that it was mostly

> > broken

> > down by the gastric juices, and provided little benefit.

> >

> > What is the status of the other anti-oxidants? Are they beneficial?

> > Whose data do we have to vouch for them? The manufacturers.

> >

> > Enzymes are produced in the body constantly to handle oxidation

byproducts.

> > Some of these enzymes are glutathione peroxidase, superoxide dismutase,

> > catalase, reductase. They protect cells at all times. When their action

is

> > blocked by the presence of UNOXIDIZED toxins, then damage can occur.

> >

> > So the course to take is either :

> > 1) increase oxidation to eliminate toxins, or

> > 2) increase the amount of enzymes

> >

> > How many enzymes does the cell need? Only the body knows.

> > Which cells are most in need? Only the body knows.

> >

> > So dosing with antioxidants to 'help out' is problematic.

> >

> > Why not let the body handle the situation?

> >

> > How about :

> > 1) increasing oxidation to burn the toxic garbage off, and

> > 2) increasing the body's PRODUCTION of protective enzymes, exactly

> >

>

>

>

> w/peace

> wes bennett

> wesbenn@...

> <A HREF= " http://www.wesbennett.com " >wes bennett photography & design</A>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

--- Saul Pressman <saul@...> wrote:

> ...Why not let the body handle the situation?

>

> How about :

> 1) increasing oxidation to burn the toxic garbage

> off, and

> 2) increasing the body's PRODUCTION of protective

> enzymes, exactly

> where they are needed

>

> So what could possibly do all that?

>

> OZONE THERAPY.

Dr Pressman:

How do we know that Ozone therapy is getting the job

done either? Assimilation of oxygen via the digestive

system (h2o2) or by the skin (Ozone steam baths) seems

to be an indirect method to promote oxidation.

Tom Nesler

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Tom,

Dr. Pressman will no doubt give a more comprehensive answer to your

questions, but something occurs to me from your post: Ozone is not

simply an oxygen treatment, as is oral H2O2. The neatest thing, IMO,

that Saul has ever explained to us is that ozone is an electro-therapy,

not an oxygen therapy. The proof of this is that in all ozone studies,

oxygen in it's different forms are the control group. That ozone

treatments outperform straight oxygen treatments attests to the fact

that something else is happening besides oxygen, and that is the ozone

story! As they say on the " big island, " ozone is " mo better! "

And, , this is not to belittle HBOT. I want one just like

's, to sleep in! ;-)

jim

Tom Nesler wrote:

>

> Dr Pressman:

>

> How do we know that Ozone therapy is getting the job

> done either? Assimilation of oxygen via the digestive

> system (h2o2) or by the skin (Ozone steam baths) seems

> to be an indirect method to promote oxidation.

>

> Tom Nesler

-----

carpe diem, carpe pecuniam, carpe feminas. -- Jim Lambert

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http://www.entrance.to/poetry

[Guest guest]

Tom:

To get the best results for the disease condition you

must combine lifestyle, diet, supplements, exercise,

and bodywork together. There is no magic bullet.

Stop in and review The Story of Ozone by Saul

Pressman, and Oxygen Therapies by Ed McCabe. Both

books are excellent.

With a serious disease such as MS time is a critical

factor. Yes, get all the facts you can to feel

comfortable but don't be paralyzed with analysis. At

some point you just have to do it. Hope, pray and wish

for a miracle. It's there...Ron Inda

--- Tom Nesler <neslertom@...> wrote:

> --- Saul Pressman <saul@...> wrote:

> > ...Why not let the body handle the situation?

> >

> > How about :

> > 1) increasing oxidation to burn the toxic garbage

> > off, and

> > 2) increasing the body's PRODUCTION of protective

> > enzymes, exactly

> > where they are needed

> >

> > So what could possibly do all that?

> >

> > OZONE THERAPY.

>

> Dr Pressman:

>

> How do we know that Ozone therapy is getting the job

> done either? Assimilation of oxygen via the

> digestive

> system (h2o2) or by the skin (Ozone steam baths)

> seems

> to be an indirect method to promote oxidation.

>

> Tom Nesler

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Tom,

Ozone saunas provide a direct way, by using the funnel, to direct the

ozone exactly where we want it, such as a tumor (toxic dump) or the

liver or pancreas, etc.

Anything left over will be used by the body as it sees fit, meaning the

area of most need. Of course, a whole body reaction occurs, and can be

measured. Prof. Bocci has made a career out of examining blood samples

before and after ozonation, and measuring the changes in levels of various

constituents. And his studies have shown that the same changes happen

with the ozone sauna as happen when autohemotherapy is performed.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH

Re: ozone and antioxidants

> --- Saul Pressman <saul@...> wrote:

> > ...Why not let the body handle the situation?

> >

> > How about :

> > 1) increasing oxidation to burn the toxic garbage

> > off, and

> > 2) increasing the body's PRODUCTION of protective

> > enzymes, exactly

> > where they are needed

> >

> > So what could possibly do all that?

> >

> > OZONE THERAPY.

>

> Dr Pressman:

>

> How do we know that Ozone therapy is getting the job

> done either? Assimilation of oxygen via the digestive

> system (h2o2) or by the skin (Ozone steam baths) seems

> to be an indirect method to promote oxidation.

>

> Tom Nesler

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Ah, I think I got that time period from Saul.

I'm told that ozone and vitamin C each interfere with

each other--- using together you lose effectiveness

of each. I wrote a note to myself to take vit C

30 minutes after ozone, hoping to set up a habit

about it so that it would seem less cumbersome.

So, that's why I remnember the 30 minutes part.

If you take the vit C prior to ozone, it is a

longer time in between (several hours?) so I

figured that trying to get a routine of vit C

after ozone would simplify.

Moria

> Moria,

> What is the rationale for waiting half an hour?

>

> thx...mike

>

> > Hi

> >

> > I am having my first ozone treatment tonight. I have read that you

> need to

> > take anti-oxidants afterwards but not for a while afterwards. Can

> anyone

> > tell me how long afterwards

>

>

> Half an hour (or longer)

>

> Moria

[Guest guest]

This issue is dealt with at some length in the book Flood Your Body with Oxygen by Ed McCabe ISBN 0-9620527 - 2 -8. Since I did not fully understand it I will not try to summarise it here, but it seems to boil down to lies we have been fed as to what Anti Oxidants are by the Medical Mafia.

[Guest guest]

The story of ozone is a useful primer:

http://www.ozonio.com.br/medical.htm

The brief and controlled oxidative burst provokes a huge

antioxidant response in the body; this heals perhaps more than

the ozone does. Take your antioxidants an hour AFTER the ozone

session; by then the antioxidant effect is under way.

Duncan (an ozone therapist in Canada)

On 25 Oct 2006 at 14:55, Beck-blood-

electrification

Digest Number 1699 wrote:

>

> Posted by: " genewell " genewell@... genewell

> Date: Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:20 am (PDT)

>

> Can anyone explain to me why ozone is not bad for you given that by

> definition it is an " oxidant " or free radical. Also, should I take

> anti- oxidants while on ozone therapy. Won't they just negate each

> other?

[Guest guest]

Duncan

I have been looking into oxygen type therapies for my wife with MS

1 Do you know of any that are achieving success (we have found LDN good for stopping progress for the last couple of years but found out about it too late)

2 Is there anything such as a register of therapists (we live in the UK).

Thanks

Dave

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I was strongly recommend that you visit the following website:

http://www.watercure2.org

and access the menu section, on the left of the page, on Multiple

Sclerosis. Here you will find a number of testimonies from MS

suffers who have been cured by drinking a Water (Alkaline water) and

Sea Salt (Celtic Sea Salt).

To produce the alkaline water you need to purchase an Ionizer. I

woud highly recommend any in the Jupiter range

(http://www.ionizers.org/jupiterscience-models.html).

As an addition, please read the following information:

http://www.ionizers.org/dr-young.html

http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/salt.htm

http://www.watercure.com

http://www.celticseasalt.com/

Blessings and Love to you and your wife

Uzoma

>

> Duncan

>

> I have been looking into oxygen type therapies for my wife with MS

>

> 1 Do you know of any that are achieving success (we have found LDN

good for stopping progress for the last couple of years but found

out about it too late)

>

> 2 Is there anything such as a register of therapists (we live in

the UK).

>

> Thanks

>

> Dave

>