Re: ozonated water to detox ?

[Guest guest]

Hi Sandy,

Do you have an ozone generator? If so, is it air fed or oxygen?

Yes, drinking ozonated water will help detox. Also, being female you

have an advantage as you can do vaginal insufflating, which is

suppose to be as good as a sauna as far as being beneficial. You can

also get cheap painting coveralls (cost about $7-$10 each)at home

depoe or someplace like that. Simple get naked, wet your body down

(could take a quick shower or just use a wash cloth), put on the

coveralls, then insert the tubbing end from the generator into an

opeing in the arm or leg, seal it closed like tieing it with

something, and turn on the generator. Can stay that way anywhere

from 5 minutes to 30-60 minutes. That is a poor man's sauna. The

wet body opens up the pores and the overalls encloses the ozone

liking it to a sauna.

A medical generator is what is always suggested for insufflating, but

some have used Sota's air fed generator for it with no bad effects.

Russ, at Sota can't (I'm sure for legal reasons) recommend doing

this, and I'm not either. Only stating some have done it on their

own.

Gail

>

> I have a doug coil rife machine ordered and before I use it I want

> to do all the detoxing I can.

>

> I have been using a silver pulsar for a few years but I never

bought

> the devices to do the entire protocal.

>

> After i posted about the ozone saunas and saw the prices I can not

> pay that at right now.

>

> I know all about herxes and I want to detox all I can before using

> this coil machine.

>

> Can anyone suggest if the ozonated water would help to detox?

>

> Is there anyway to use it for a sauna? Are there any ozone saunas

> that are cheapier?

>

> I have lyme dx and also some other things that are worse because of

> having lyme for many years and was not dx until dec 04.

>

> The hypercoagulation is one and I used bromelain in high doses for

> over a year and then tried heparin shots. I can't seem to stay on

> them because they make my stomach sore.

>

> My feet are so cold that I have burned a hold in my leg after

> falling asleep in heating pad.

>

> I am praying that this machine will do some good. It is suppose to

> be the best one for lyme.

>

> I have done some liver and colon cleansers but nothing lately

> because I have been on antibiotics.

>

> My head gets very spacy and drowsey and i have the flue like

> achiness. After years of this I had some degenerative changes in

my

> spine that are affecting the nerves.

>

> I am open to any suggestions.

>

>

> Thanks,

> sandy

>

[Guest guest]

-No I don't have anything ozone realted.

That is what I am trying to learn more about. since I just ordered

the doug coil machine I am limited to spending and I keep thinking

that the ozone sounds so good about detoxing.

If I cannot afford a generator now would the beck machine that makes

ozonated water help?

My head is so drowsey and spacey. That is one of my worst symptoms

and sometimes I think it is under control but then it returns.

After years of having lyme that and the flu like feeling are so hard

to endure.

The silver pulsar helps with the flu like feeling but not the head

stuff.

I have put it on my head and often wondered if the bacteria is in my

brain that the tuner would help this feeling.

I cannot hardley funcion like this. It could be die off but it is

only guess work.

Could the water ozonater be used for sauna. or in any of the other

body crevices?

I have seen some steam saunas on ebay that were cheap but I don't

have any of the other equipment to make on. Until a few days ago I

could not understand any of the ozone information then someone on a

forum was nice enough to let me call them and they explained it.

I have been taking some MSM and wondered if that could cause a herx?

I read at the lower part of your post about the one from sota so

sorry for the question above I just don't feel to clear in the head.

Thanks for your reply.

-- In , " wanda85929 "

<wanda85929@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Sandy,

>

> Do you have an ozone generator? If so, is it air fed or oxygen?

>

> Yes, drinking ozonated water will help detox. Also, being female

you

> have an advantage as you can do vaginal insufflating, which is

> suppose to be as good as a sauna as far as being beneficial. You

can

> also get cheap painting coveralls (cost about $7-$10 each)at home

> depoe or someplace like that. Simple get naked, wet your body

down

> (could take a quick shower or just use a wash cloth), put on the

> coveralls, then insert the tubbing end from the generator into an

> opeing in the arm or leg, seal it closed like tieing it with

> something, and turn on the generator. Can stay that way anywhere

> from 5 minutes to 30-60 minutes. That is a poor man's sauna. The

> wet body opens up the pores and the overalls encloses the ozone

> liking it to a sauna.

>

> A medical generator is what is always suggested for insufflating,

but

> some have used Sota's air fed generator for it with no bad

effects.

> Russ, at Sota can't (I'm sure for legal reasons) recommend doing

> this, and I'm not either. Only stating some have done it on their

> own.

>

> Gail

>

>

> >

> > I have a doug coil rife machine ordered and before I use it I

want

> > to do all the detoxing I can.

> >

> > I have been using a silver pulsar for a few years but I never

> bought

> > the devices to do the entire protocal.

> >

> > After i posted about the ozone saunas and saw the prices I can

not

> > pay that at right now.

> >

> > I know all about herxes and I want to detox all I can before

using

> > this coil machine.

> >

> > Can anyone suggest if the ozonated water would help to detox?

> >

> > Is there anyway to use it for a sauna? Are there any ozone

saunas

> > that are cheapier?

> >

> > I have lyme dx and also some other things that are worse because

of

> > having lyme for many years and was not dx until dec 04.

> >

> > The hypercoagulation is one and I used bromelain in high doses

for

> > over a year and then tried heparin shots. I can't seem to stay

on

> > them because they make my stomach sore.

> >

> > My feet are so cold that I have burned a hold in my leg after

> > falling asleep in heating pad.

> >

> > I am praying that this machine will do some good. It is suppose

to

> > be the best one for lyme.

> >

> > I have done some liver and colon cleansers but nothing lately

> > because I have been on antibiotics.

> >

> > My head gets very spacy and drowsey and i have the flue like

> > achiness. After years of this I had some degenerative changes

in

> my

> > spine that are affecting the nerves.

> >

> > I am open to any suggestions.

> >

> >

> > Thanks,

> > sandy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sandy,

I too have lyme but am much better since having my amalgam fillings

removed - I have recently started the Andy Cutler detox regime with ALA &

this is further helping. I take samento for the lyme & have never had

antibiotics for it.

Just a thought.

Val

I am open to any suggestions.

Thanks,

sandy

[Guest guest]

Just thought of another thing I use for lyme: I use the .com zapper -

first with the parasite program driver, then the blue one (which comes free

with it) then the lyme one. At first I could not tolerate this without

feeling rough for a few days but after taking samento for a few months I was

able to use the zapper regularly & this in turn helps keep lyme symptoms

under control.

Val

[Guest guest]

Sandy,

There is a group ~ lymestrategies . Salt/Vit C (that is sea salt) is the protocol they are using and it absolutely works to rid the body of the spirochetes, bacteria and lyme toxins. Brain fog is a major symptom with lymes, and can be eliminted with their recommended protocol. You can ask the group and they will direct you in matters of detoxification, too. Ozonated water is one good method of detoxifying the body, but not generally for killing the spirochetes. You are on the right track with the doug coil machine, although some lymes people say it is not strong enough to do the job. This group is a tight group and extremely supportive and very knowledgeable. Hope to see you there.

There is also the popular and well attended lyme-and-rife group that you could join since you are doing the doug coil. But this group is not doing the Salt/C protocol. There are associations rising up all over the country (USA) regarding lymes education, eradication, and support, as it is quickly coming to the attention of many that this is a disease of epidemic proportions. The symptoms are many and varied, and MD's generally DO NOT recognize lymes disease nor are they capable of treating it. Antibiotics only work when you first get it, and many people are not aware that they have it, which by the way, can be transmitted sexually as well as through a tick bite. You must find a LLMD (Lyme Literate Medical Doctor) who can treat it. And there is a reference list for LLMD's too. This disease must be treated according to the various bacteria ~ babesiosis, burgdorfie, and erlichiosis that you have, which can sometimes be detected with a blood test, but not always, because they go into cyst form and hide, especially if you are taking antibiotics.

-------Original Message-------

>

> >

> > I have a doug coil rife machine ordered and before I use it I

want

> > to do all the detoxing I can.

> >

> > I have been using a silver pulsar for a few years but I never

> bought

> > the devices to do the entire protocal.

> >

> > After i posted about the ozone saunas and saw the prices I can

not

> > pay that at right now.

> >

> > I know all about herxes and I want to detox all I can before

using

> > this coil machine.

> >

> > Can anyone suggest if the ozonated water would help to detox?

> >

> > Is there anyway to use it for a sauna? Are there any ozone

saunas

> > that are cheapier?

> >

> > I have lyme dx and also some other things that are worse because

of

> > having lyme for many years and was not dx until dec 04.

> >

> > The hypercoagulation is one and I used bromelain in high doses

for

> > over a year and then tried heparin shots. I can't seem to stay

on

> > them because they make my stomach sore.

> >

> > My feet are so cold that I have burned a hold in my leg after

> > falling asleep in heating pad.

> >

> > I am praying that this machine will do some good. It is suppose

to

> > be the best one for lyme.

> >

> > I have done some liver and colon cleansers but nothing lately

> > because I have been on antibiotics.

> >

> > My head gets very spacy and drowsey and i have the flue like

> > achiness. After years of this I had some degenerative changes

in

> my

> > spine that are affecting the nerves.

> >

> > I am open to any suggestions.

> >

> >

> > Thanks,

> > sandy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

--Thank you,

I have been to see a LLD twice and have been taking antibiotics

since last May.

My western blot was positive for lyme but not the co infections.

I am on all those groups and tried the salt vit c but I got edema

and sometimes I have high BP.

My brain is bad now it seems that symptoms go in cycles.

A couple of good days then back pain that will get better then the

flu like achy, then the spacey sleepy. It is like having a zombie

head.

Awful. I thought the ozone might detox and help brain but maybe the

brain tuner.

I ask my shrink about pathogens in the brain causing mental illness

and he said they think that some mental illness is connected to some

infections in the brain.

So if I could zap my head today I think I would.

I have used the silver pulsar on my head and it only made me feel

like my head was rocking.

I guess desperation will make me do anything to feel better.

Thanks for the help.

- In , " SMax " <sasha@...>

wrote:

>

> Sandy,

> There is a group ~ lymestrategies Salt/Vit

C (that

> is sea salt) is the protocol they are using and it absolutely

works to rid

> the body of the spirochetes, bacteria and lyme toxins. Brain fog

is a major

> symptom with lymes, and can be eliminted with their recommended

protocol.

> You can ask the group and they will direct you in matters of

detoxification,

> too. Ozonated water is one good method of detoxifying the body,

but not

> generally for killing the spirochetes. You are on the right track

with the

> doug coil machine, although some lymes people say it is not strong

enough to

> do the job. This group is a tight group and extremely supportive

and very

> knowledgeable. Hope to see you there.

>

> There is also the popular and well attended lyme-and-rife group

that you

> could join since you are doing the doug coil. But this group is

not doing

> the Salt/C protocol. There are associations rising up all over

the country

> (USA) regarding lymes education, eradication, and support, as it

is quickly

> coming to the attention of many that this is a disease of epidemic

> proportions. The symptoms are many and varied, and MD's generally

DO NOT

> recognize lymes disease nor are they capable of treating it.

Antibiotics

> only work when you first get it, and many people are not aware

that they

> have it, which by the way, can be transmitted sexually as well as

through a

> tick bite. You must find a LLMD (Lyme Literate Medical Doctor)

who can

> treat it. And there is a reference list for LLMD's too. This

disease must

> be treated according to the various bacteria ~ babesiosis,

burgdorfie, and

> erlichiosis that you have, which can sometimes be detected with a

blood test

> but not always, because they go into cyst form and hide,

especially if you

> are taking antibiotics.

>

> -------Original Message-------

> >

> > >

> > > I have a doug coil rife machine ordered and before I use it I

> want

> > > to do all the detoxing I can.

> > >

> > > I have been using a silver pulsar for a few years but I never

> > bought

> > > the devices to do the entire protocal.

> > >

> > > After i posted about the ozone saunas and saw the prices I can

> not

> > > pay that at right now.

> > >

> > > I know all about herxes and I want to detox all I can before

> using

> > > this coil machine.

> > >

> > > Can anyone suggest if the ozonated water would help to detox?

> > >

> > > Is there anyway to use it for a sauna? Are there any ozone

> saunas

> > > that are cheapier?

> > >

> > > I have lyme dx and also some other things that are worse

because

> of

> > > having lyme for many years and was not dx until dec 04.

> > >

> > > The hypercoagulation is one and I used bromelain in high doses

> for

> > > over a year and then tried heparin shots. I can't seem to stay

> on

> > > them because they make my stomach sore.

> > >

> > > My feet are so cold that I have burned a hold in my leg after

> > > falling asleep in heating pad.

> > >

> > > I am praying that this machine will do some good. It is

suppose

> to

> > > be the best one for lyme.

> > >

> > > I have done some liver and colon cleansers but nothing lately

> > > because I have been on antibiotics.

> > >

> > > My head gets very spacy and drowsey and i have the flue like

> > > achiness. After years of this I had some degenerative changes

> in

> > my

> > > spine that are affecting the nerves.

> > >

> > > I am open to any suggestions.

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > sandy

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sandy,

A 'beck machine that makes ozonated water' is an ozone generator.

You can't make ozonated water without having a generator. The only

question is what type of generator is it, air feed or oxygen? My

guess would be you have a air feed generator.

MSM would cause detoxing. One should always start out slowly with

this product and drink plenty of water. It will kill any candida.

Another thing you might consider, but will problably want to read up

on it first because most are so repulsed by it, is urine therapy.

People have testified a lot of good stuff about it especially

recarding curing candida. I'm guessing most lymeies will have

candida due to the antibiotics.

Have also heard a lot of praise about colloidal silver. Most make

their own as it is so much cheaper to make it yourself the buy it

store bought. Some have even commented on adding a mixture of DMSO

with the CS to help it penetrate the brain and tissues more readily.

Another thing that might help is a product called homozone. It's

just a good thing that would help detox and give some much needed

energy.

Last, but not least, try and find somebody who can do some of the

research for you. With a brain that doesn't work, it is impossible

to fully funtion in researching. Just too hard.

Gail

>

> -No I don't have anything ozone realted.

>

> That is what I am trying to learn more about. since I just ordered

> the doug coil machine I am limited to spending and I keep thinking

> that the ozone sounds so good about detoxing.

>

> If I cannot afford a generator now would the beck machine that

makes

> ozonated water help?

>

> My head is so drowsey and spacey. That is one of my worst symptoms

> and sometimes I think it is under control but then it returns.

>