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Dear ,

This is my first day here, but I have to send you gentle hugs. I am

so sorry about your loss of your dog. I really know how you feel;

our cat got run over a lot of years ago, but I STILL remember how it

feels. Pets are so special and such an important part of our lives

and so hard to lose them. I'll be thinking of you and your family

during this sad time.

I have a dog and a cat now, and when I am having a hard day and

laying on the couch, they gather around me and give me their own

special brand of comfort. Sending some of that comfort on to you...

Verna in Michigan

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Hi ,

My name is Joanne (I thing we have 2 Joannes now...I live in Az and couldn't

help but respond to your email I read about the doctor being high profile..

..I hope you don't mind my opinion and I am sorry if this offends you,

but that is the biggest cop out I ever heard for NOT giving oxycontin. I do

say this with some authority as I worked for surgeons for over 25 yrs and

specifically for the directors of a burn center (WHO NEED BIG TIME PAIN

MEDICATION).

The reason doctors do not give pain medication (when legitmate use is

needed0 is because they must be sure to document clearly in the charts ,

renew it (in writing) every month)as it is not refillable by calling it in,

and they should see the patient often(at least monthly). Either the doctor

who will not give pain meds when needed, 1. does not want the additional

work, or 2: they are AFRAID of looking bad by prescribing such drugs. I know

this factually as my Internist (who does prescribe narcotics as well as the

surgeons I have worked for, told me the exact same things.Also, If you are

an HMO patient they loose money by seeing you " too " often if needed to

prescribe the narcotic.

My suggestion to anyone who has a disease such as RA, Lupus, etc...and who

is in need of pain reliief, to seek a rheumatologist or Internist who will

" hear " you. My own Internist says, " All doctors should live with the pain

rheumatoid arthritis presents, and then they would be the first ones seeking

serious pain medication " .

If I can help you let me know...but I definitely would consider another

doctor...that was the best excuse I have heard...I also receive my oain

medication free of charge through the pharmaceutical company's patient

assistance program. Hope this helps you

joanne

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Joanne,

no offense taking. i didn't mean for it to sound like jesse's dr wasn't

treating his pain. he is and has always treated the pain. the trouble is

finding one strong enough without reactions. jesse has seen 2 other peds.

rheum. drs and this is the only one that ever treated his pain. he treats his

kids aggressively which jesse never had before. i can also say that if we

can't find jesse a pain med that works for him that his dr will put him back

on the oxycotin. he is looking at the fact that jesse has gone from hardly

being able to move to going out and running, bike riding, fishing etc. jesse

has not been able to do any of that since he was 4 yrs old.

as most people like gina and paula, have seen jesse improve so much in the

last 2 yrs. sure he has a few set backs but he is so much better.

i agree with you though, if the dr wasn't treating the pain, i would have to

find another dr. no person needs to suffer because of that.

thanks, shelly

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Joanne,

I have to confess that I had the same reaction about 's doctor's reason

for refusing to prescribe OxyContin for him or his other young patients any

longer - it's a cowardly cop-out. Yet, I know from what has told us

in the past about his doctor that he does care very much about and has

worked hard to help him with his pain and his RA. I'm disappointed in his

decision, but I do believe he will try to find an effective substitute med.

If he were unconcerned about 's pain or refused to prescribe pain

medication at all, I would also recommend finding another doctor, but I

don't think that's the case with this physician.

I certainly do agree with you about the need for doctors to put in the extra

effort and take the risks necessary to treat their patients' pain

effectively!

[ ] Re: For

> Hi ,

> My name is Joanne (I thing we have 2 Joannes now...I live in Az and

couldn't

> help but respond to your email I read about the doctor being high

profile..

> ..I hope you don't mind my opinion and I am sorry if this offends

you,

> but that is the biggest cop out I ever heard for NOT giving oxycontin. I

do

> say this with some authority as I worked for surgeons for over 25 yrs and

> specifically for the directors of a burn center (WHO NEED BIG TIME PAIN

> MEDICATION).

>

> The reason doctors do not give pain medication (when legitmate use is

> needed0 is because they must be sure to document clearly in the charts ,

> renew it (in writing) every month)as it is not refillable by calling it

in,

> and they should see the patient often(at least monthly). Either the

doctor

> who will not give pain meds when needed, 1. does not want the additional

> work, or 2: they are AFRAID of looking bad by prescribing such drugs. I

know

> this factually as my Internist (who does prescribe narcotics as well as

the

> surgeons I have worked for, told me the exact same things.Also, If you are

> an HMO patient they loose money by seeing you " too " often if needed to

> prescribe the narcotic.

>

> My suggestion to anyone who has a disease such as RA, Lupus, etc...and who

> is in need of pain reliief, to seek a rheumatologist or Internist who will

> " hear " you. My own Internist says, " All doctors should live with the pain

> rheumatoid arthritis presents, and then they would be the first ones

seeking

> serious pain medication " .

> If I can help you let me know...but I definitely would consider another

> doctor...that was the best excuse I have heard...I also receive my oain

> medication free of charge through the pharmaceutical company's patient

> assistance program. Hope this helps you

>

> joanne

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,

Oh, I am so glad...I thought that once again I was seeing another sad

situation of no pain meds when needed. I am very glad..I am new to the

board, so how old is ? Is it Ra? I was not sure if it was yourself or a

child who was suffering...Sorry to jump on it but I sincerely hate to see

suffering when it is not necessary. and so many patients are afraid to

insist or move on , or even fired their doctor when necessary and it hurts

me to see them as victims...especially children..

I am on oxycontin...but as wilth all pain meds we develop a tolerance and

they begin not to have the effect they once had...been there done

that...Glad it is all OK.

Just want to say it stinks that someone took the pain meds while in your

home...

best wishes

Joanne

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,

I was so glad to receive your email and after emailing with it seems

does have a doctor who gives a darn. This problem of doctors arrogance

and reluctance to treat pain when deemed necessary infuriates and frustrates

me.

For the first time, last Dec. a physician suggested i go on Enbrel. When I

stated that I would need to contact Wyeths patient assistance program due to

the $1,000.00 a month cost (as I had done before) this woman rheumatologist

said " Why should you get enbrel before a patient who can pay for it " ? Not

only that, she failed to offer any further treatment and sugested that I see

another doctor. IShe not only did this to me but in front of my friend of 20

years...how stupid...Anyway I was appalled and disgusted by her unethical

behavior and for the first time I reported a physician to the licensing

board of my state as well as the a AMA. Presently they have 5 counts agains

this doctor and I am going for it . I have had enough of doctors treating

patients poorly for whatever reason....and of course this doctor does not

use pain meds!!!!

Thanks for your note. I understnad the situation with better now and

hope it works out.

Joanne

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Joanne,

has a great doctor and has dramatically changed

's life. We now hear about 's activities rather

than all the things he can't do. I wish all of our doctors

had the beliefs about treating chronic pain aggressively.

I am very glad you reported that doctor. I hope they follow

up on it. I can't imagine a doctor saying such a cruel

thing to a patient, but since she doesn't treat RA patients

pain, it shows what kind of doctor she is.

a

Re: [ ] Re: For

,

I was so glad to receive your email and after emailing

with it seems

does have a doctor who gives a darn. This problem of

doctors arrogance

and reluctance to treat pain when deemed necessary

infuriates and frustrates

me.

For the first time, last Dec. a physician suggested i go

on Enbrel. When I

stated that I would need to contact Wyeths patient

assistance program due to

the $1,000.00 a month cost (as I had done before) this

woman rheumatologist

said " Why should you get enbrel before a patient who can

pay for it " ? Not

only that, she failed to offer any further treatment and

sugested that I see

another doctor. IShe not only did this to me but in front

of my friend of 20

years...how stupid...Anyway I was appalled and disgusted

by her unethical

behavior and for the first time I reported a physician to

the licensing

board of my state as well as the a AMA. Presently they

have 5 counts agains

this doctor and I am going for it . I have had enough of

doctors treating

patients poorly for whatever reason....and of course this

doctor does not

use pain meds!!!!

Thanks for your note. I understnad the situation with

better now and

hope it works out.

Joanne

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joanne,

jesse a 12 yr old boy dx at age 4 with JRA, related lung disease at age 6 and

recently showing early signs of chrons disease. he is the second oldest of my

five boys. he has been through hell but has improved in a lot of ways and

seems to be sliding in some others. school has been hard for us. we had to

retain a lawyer so jesse could get the physical help he needed. he is now in

6th grade, should be in 7th but school retained him on the amount of absences

he had and tried to have me arrested for contributing to a minor. it was a

mess. if it wasn't for this group i would have lost my mine. i know that

jesse is in the hearts of everyone here as well as the other boys. jesse

gives lots of people insperation to keep going. he is the strongest and

bravest person i know.

looking forward to getting to know you better, take care.

shelly

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God Bless you and ! We know you have a spot in heaven....It is

bad enough adults get these rotten diseases but I hate to see children

suffer from th. My prayers are with you, your family and expecially .

Joanne

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Ph,

Oh thank God you found this I am going to try it right now.

thanks thanks thanks.

Love

In a message dated 1/23/2008 9:08:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, perfecthealth68@... writes:

Hi ,Here's a post I found by Patty when I searched the archives. She talks about what has worked for her when she has had kidney pain or infection. Love, PH>> ,> For the hair loss, have you had your thyroid thoroughly checked? This issue will probably take some time to resolve. I just got a letter from a group member who is still dealing with the hair loss issue several years after explant. This seems to be a persistent problem. Are you taking alot of essential fatty acids? Fish oil and evening primrose oil are necessary supplements for hair health.> > As for the kidney pain, I've dealt with this issue a number of times, and I found that I can get rid of it pretty quickly using all natural therapies. I have not had to go to the doctor for any antibiotics if I start taking care of this problem immediately. The last time I had a problem was in Feb. 2001, two and a half years ago, so I know these work:> > 1) Eat lots of raw garlic. Raw garlic is a potent killer of pathogenic organisms that can contribute to infections of any kind. Eat up to 12 cloves a day. If you need ideas, look in the files section, or ask, as I've found many ways to get down raw garlic in quantity.> 2) Take grapefruit seed extract, also a purifier, several times a day.> 3) These herbs will help keep the urinary tract infection clear: dandelion, uva ursi, parsley, marshmallow root. You can take them in pill form, or you can make a tea and drink it all day long.> 4) Buy a detox tea, such as Yogi Detox tea http://www.good-earth.com/yogi-tea---detox-tea.html and drink it in quantity. We had a manager at one of our shops who was ready to miss work due to a budding kidney infection, actually debating on going to the doctor for an antibiotic, and we bought him a box of this tea. He drank two pots of it, and came in the next day, totally thrilled that it fixed him right up, no more kidney pain.> 5) Definitely keep lots of fluids moving through the kidneys and bladder. Drink alot of water (or tea, as above) and go to the bathroom often. My typical way of dealing with this issue is to fix a gallon of tea or water, take it to the bathroom with a good book, sit on the toilet and just drink and go when the urge strikes, drink and go, and I find that the urge to urinate increases in frequency the longer I sit on the toilet and drink fluid. This allows any bacteria in the bladder to be removed before it can take hold and blow up into a bigger infection, and all the antimicrobial herbs and garlic ensures that everything is being killed off. Eventually the burning feeling goes away, (within an hour or so) and the plus is that I've gotten in a good chunk of reading time to boot! Works for me!> Good luck, . I am so glad you are explanted and on the road to recovery. Hope this helps.> Patty> Re: Re: my explantation surgery> > > Hey ladies: > > As some of you know has the implants removed about 3 weeks ago. Feel fine in terms of healing. A bit disappointed though, the hair loss seemed to decrease the week after removal, but in last few day has increased again. I also am still having kidney pain, suspect I have an infection in my kidneys. Any suggestions? > > > Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.

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Patty,

How in the world do you get down 12 cloves of garlic at once?

My legs are really swollen? And my neck feels swollen is this from the garlic?

Help

In a message dated 1/23/2008 9:08:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, perfecthealth68@... writes:

Hi ,Here's a post I found by Patty when I searched the archives. She talks about what has worked for her when she has had kidney pain or infection. Love, PH>> ,> For the hair loss, have you had your thyroid thoroughly checked? This issue will probably take some time to resolve. I just got a letter from a group member who is still dealing with the hair loss issue several years after explant. This seems to be a persistent problem. Are you taking alot of essential fatty acids? Fish oil and evening primrose oil are necessary supplements for hair health.> > As for the kidney pain, I've dealt with this issue a number of times, and I found that I can get rid of it pretty quickly using all natural therapies. I have not had to go to the doctor for any antibiotics if I start taking care of this problem immediately. The last time I had a problem was in Feb. 2001, two and a half years ago, so I know these work:> > 1) Eat lots of raw garlic. Raw garlic is a potent killer of pathogenic organisms that can contribute to infections of any kind. Eat up to 12 cloves a day. If you need ideas, look in the files section, or ask, as I've found many ways to get down raw garlic in quantity.> 2) Take grapefruit seed extract, also a purifier, several times a day.> 3) These herbs will help keep the urinary tract infection clear: dandelion, uva ursi, parsley, marshmallow root. You can take them in pill form, or you can make a tea and drink it all day long.> 4) Buy a detox tea, such as Yogi Detox tea http://www.good-earth.com/yogi-tea---detox-tea.html and drink it in quantity. We had a manager at one of our shops who was ready to miss work due to a budding kidney infection, actually debating on going to the doctor for an antibiotic, and we bought him a box of this tea. He drank two pots of it, and came in the next day, totally thrilled that it fixed him right up, no more kidney pain.> 5) Definitely keep lots of fluids moving through the kidneys and bladder. Drink alot of water (or tea, as above) and go to the bathroom often. My typical way of dealing with this issue is to fix a gallon of tea or water, take it to the bathroom with a good book, sit on the toilet and just drink and go when the urge strikes, drink and go, and I find that the urge to urinate increases in frequency the longer I sit on the toilet and drink fluid. This allows any bacteria in the bladder to be removed before it can take hold and blow up into a bigger infection, and all the antimicrobial herbs and garlic ensures that everything is being killed off. Eventually the burning feeling goes away, (within an hour or so) and the plus is that I've gotten in a good chunk of reading time to boot! Works for me!> Good luck, . I am so glad you are explanted and on the road to recovery. Hope this helps.> Patty> Re: Re: my explantation surgery> > > Hey ladies: > > As some of you know has the implants removed about 3 weeks ago. Feel fine in terms of healing. A bit disappointed though, the hair loss seemed to decrease the week after removal, but in last few day has increased again. I also am still having kidney pain, suspect I have an infection in my kidneys. Any suggestions? > > > Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.

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Patty,

That does make sense I appreciate you posting it for me. Because I receive all the posting through my mailbox. I still cant get on the site. I just might be computer illiterate.lol I cant wait for the garlic menus.My legs have been swollen for about 6 months.I feel like I have rocks in my breast also? Maybe they are just getting heavier?LOL LOL LOL!!!!! My legs I would say they have doubled in size over the past 6 months.By the way what is a rebounder? Sorry I dont mean to take up so much of your time Patty. I appreciate everything you are doing for me. I love you so much when I get better my husband and I are gonna have to come visit you. You are the best. You are right on the list next to God then my family and there is YOU..

Love You,

P.S. Thanks for this site.

In a message dated 1/23/2008 11:54:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, glory2glory1401@... writes:

,I have, but I think it is alot easier to do it throughout the day! I have a book on garlic and it states that the therapeutic amount is 12 cloves a day. Therapeutic means the level at which it can help cure disease.I made a list of ways in which I eat my raw garlic through the day. It's in the files section, but I'll post it for convenience for you.I am not sure why your legs are swollen, but it sounds to me like your kidneys are not working well. How swollen are your legs? You may need to get to the urgent care center if you cannot get the swelling to go down. You need your kidneys to function well and get rid of that water.Have you tried rebounding? If you do not have a rebounder, do some jumping rope. Anything to get you moving up and down and getting that lymph to move around too.Not sure about the neck, but if things don't get better, get to the doctor.Patty > >> > ,> > For the hair loss, have you had your thyroid thoroughly checked? > This issue will probably take some time to resolve. I just got a > letter from a group member who is still dealing with the hair loss > issue several years after explant. This seems to be a persistent > problem. Are you taking alot of essential fatty acids? Fish oil and > evening primrose oil are necessary supplements for hair health.> > > > As for the kidney pain, I've dealt with this issue a number of > times, and I found that I can get rid of it pretty quickly using all > natural therapies. I have not had to go to the doctor for any > antibiotics if I start taking care of this problem immediately. The > last time I had a problem was in Feb. 2001, two and a half years > ago, so I know these work:> > > > 1) Eat lots of raw garlic. Raw garlic is a potent killer of > pathogenic organisms that can contribute to infections of any kind. > Eat up to 12 cloves a day. If you need ideas, look in the files > section, or ask, as I've found many ways to get down raw garlic in > quantity.> > 2) Take grapefruit seed extract, also a purifier, several times a > day.> > 3) These herbs will help keep the urinary tract infection clear: > dandelion, uva ursi, parsley, marshmallow root. You can take them in > pill form, or you can make a tea and drink it all day long.> > 4) Buy a detox tea, such as Yogi Detox tea _http://www.good-_ > (http://www.good-/) > earth.com/yogi-earth.com/yoearth.com/yogi-<WBR>tea---detox-<WBR>tea.html > a manager at one of our shops who was ready to miss work due to a > budding kidney infection, actually debating on going to the doctor > for an antibiotic, and we bought him a box of this tea. He drank two > pots of it, and came in the next day, totally thrilled that it fixed > him right up, no more kidney pain.> > 5) Definitely keep lots of fluids moving through the kidneys and > bladder. Drink alot of water (or tea, as above) and go to the > bathroom often. My typical way of dealing with this issue is to fix > a gallon of tea or water, take it to the bathroom with a good book, > sit on the toilet and just drink and go when the urge strikes, drink > and go, and I find that the urge to urinate increases in frequency > the longer I sit on the toilet and drink fluid. This allows any > bacteria in the bladder to be removed before it can take hold and > blow up into a bigger infection, and all the antimicrobial herbs and > garlic ensures that everything is being killed off. Eventually the > burning feeling goes away, (within an hour or so) and the plus is > that I've gotten in a good chunk of reading time to boot! Works for > me!> > Good luck, . I am so glad you are explanted and on the road > to recovery. Hope this helps.> > Patty> > Re: Re: my explantation surgery> > > > > > Hey ladies: > > > > As some of you know has the implants removed about 3 weeks > ago. Feel fine in terms of healing. A bit disappointed though, the > hair loss seemed to decrease the week after removal, but in last few > day has increased again. I also am still having kidney pain, suspect > I have an infection in my kidneys. Any suggestions? > > > > > >> > > > > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489> Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.

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Hi ,

Here's a post I found by Patty when I searched the archives. She

talks about what has worked for her when she has had kidney pain or

infection. Love, PH

>

> ,

> For the hair loss, have you had your thyroid thoroughly checked?

This issue will probably take some time to resolve. I just got a

letter from a group member who is still dealing with the hair loss

issue several years after explant. This seems to be a persistent

problem. Are you taking alot of essential fatty acids? Fish oil and

evening primrose oil are necessary supplements for hair health.

>

> As for the kidney pain, I've dealt with this issue a number of

times, and I found that I can get rid of it pretty quickly using all

natural therapies. I have not had to go to the doctor for any

antibiotics if I start taking care of this problem immediately. The

last time I had a problem was in Feb. 2001, two and a half years

ago, so I know these work:

>

> 1) Eat lots of raw garlic. Raw garlic is a potent killer of

pathogenic organisms that can contribute to infections of any kind.

Eat up to 12 cloves a day. If you need ideas, look in the files

section, or ask, as I've found many ways to get down raw garlic in

quantity.

> 2) Take grapefruit seed extract, also a purifier, several times a

day.

> 3) These herbs will help keep the urinary tract infection clear:

dandelion, uva ursi, parsley, marshmallow root. You can take them in

pill form, or you can make a tea and drink it all day long.

> 4) Buy a detox tea, such as Yogi Detox tea http://www.good-

earth.com/yogi-tea---detox-tea.html and drink it in quantity. We had

a manager at one of our shops who was ready to miss work due to a

budding kidney infection, actually debating on going to the doctor

for an antibiotic, and we bought him a box of this tea. He drank two

pots of it, and came in the next day, totally thrilled that it fixed

him right up, no more kidney pain.

> 5) Definitely keep lots of fluids moving through the kidneys and

bladder. Drink alot of water (or tea, as above) and go to the

bathroom often. My typical way of dealing with this issue is to fix

a gallon of tea or water, take it to the bathroom with a good book,

sit on the toilet and just drink and go when the urge strikes, drink

and go, and I find that the urge to urinate increases in frequency

the longer I sit on the toilet and drink fluid. This allows any

bacteria in the bladder to be removed before it can take hold and

blow up into a bigger infection, and all the antimicrobial herbs and

garlic ensures that everything is being killed off. Eventually the

burning feeling goes away, (within an hour or so) and the plus is

that I've gotten in a good chunk of reading time to boot! Works for

me!

> Good luck, . I am so glad you are explanted and on the road

to recovery. Hope this helps.

> Patty

> Re: Re: my explantation surgery

>

>

> Hey ladies:

>

> As some of you know has the implants removed about 3 weeks

ago. Feel fine in terms of healing. A bit disappointed though, the

hair loss seemed to decrease the week after removal, but in last few

day has increased again. I also am still having kidney pain, suspect

I have an infection in my kidneys. Any suggestions?

>

>

>

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,

I have, but I think it is alot easier to do it throughout the day! I

have a book on garlic and it states that the therapeutic amount is 12

cloves a day. Therapeutic means the level at which it can help cure

disease.

I made a list of ways in which I eat my raw garlic through the day.

It's in the files section, but I'll post it for convenience for you.

I am not sure why your legs are swollen, but it sounds to me like

your kidneys are not working well. How swollen are your legs? You

may need to get to the urgent care center if you cannot get the

swelling to go down. You need your kidneys to function well and get

rid of that water.

Have you tried rebounding? If you do not have a rebounder, do some

jumping rope. Anything to get you moving up and down and getting

that lymph to move around too.

Not sure about the neck, but if things don't get better, get to the

doctor.

Patty

> >

> > ,

> > For the hair loss, have you had your thyroid thoroughly checked?

> This issue will probably take some time to resolve. I just got a

> letter from a group member who is still dealing with the hair loss

> issue several years after explant. This seems to be a persistent

> problem. Are you taking alot of essential fatty acids? Fish oil

and

> evening primrose oil are necessary supplements for hair health.

> >

> > As for the kidney pain, I've dealt with this issue a number of

> times, and I found that I can get rid of it pretty quickly using

all

> natural therapies. I have not had to go to the doctor for any

> antibiotics if I start taking care of this problem immediately.

The

> last time I had a problem was in Feb. 2001, two and a half years

> ago, so I know these work:

> >

> > 1) Eat lots of raw garlic. Raw garlic is a potent killer of

> pathogenic organisms that can contribute to infections of any

kind.

> Eat up to 12 cloves a day. If you need ideas, look in the files

> section, or ask, as I've found many ways to get down raw garlic in

> quantity.

> > 2) Take grapefruit seed extract, also a purifier, several times

a

> day.

> > 3) These herbs will help keep the urinary tract infection clear:

> dandelion, uva ursi, parsley, marshmallow root. You can take them

in

> pill form, or you can make a tea and drink it all day long.

> > 4) Buy a detox tea, such as Yogi Detox tea _http://www.good-_

> (http://www.good-/)

> earth.com/yogi-earth.com/yoearth.com/yogi-<WBR>tea---detox-

<WBR>tea.html

> a manager at one of our shops who was ready to miss work due to a

> budding kidney infection, actually debating on going to the doctor

> for an antibiotic, and we bought him a box of this tea. He drank

two

> pots of it, and came in the next day, totally thrilled that it

fixed

> him right up, no more kidney pain.

> > 5) Definitely keep lots of fluids moving through the kidneys and

> bladder. Drink alot of water (or tea, as above) and go to the

> bathroom often. My typical way of dealing with this issue is to

fix

> a gallon of tea or water, take it to the bathroom with a good

book,

> sit on the toilet and just drink and go when the urge strikes,

drink

> and go, and I find that the urge to urinate increases in frequency

> the longer I sit on the toilet and drink fluid. This allows any

> bacteria in the bladder to be removed before it can take hold and

> blow up into a bigger infection, and all the antimicrobial herbs

and

> garlic ensures that everything is being killed off. Eventually the

> burning feeling goes away, (within an hour or so) and the plus is

> that I've gotten in a good chunk of reading time to boot! Works

for

> me!

> > Good luck, . I am so glad you are explanted and on the road

> to recovery. Hope this helps.

> > Patty

> > Re: Re: my explantation surgery

> >

> >

> > Hey ladies:

> >

> > As some of you know has the implants removed about 3 weeks

> ago. Feel fine in terms of healing. A bit disappointed though, the

> hair loss seemed to decrease the week after removal, but in last

few

> day has increased again. I also am still having kidney pain,

suspect

> I have an infection in my kidneys. Any suggestions?

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in

shape.

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Oh ,

You are so sweet! Thank you for those kind words. You touched my

heart. You can visit me anytime!

Hmmm, if your legs have been swollen for about 6 months, that sounds

like either you are having some kidney issues that need to be

resolved, or you have a sluggish lymph system that needs a push.

A rebounder is a little mini-trampoline. They are cheap, about $50

and you can get them at Sears and other similar stores with sports

equipment. It is wonderful for just the right amount of exercise if

you can't do alot. You just bounce up and down on it for about 10

minutes. That action helps to move your lymph, which is important,

because you have alot of immune system components in your lymph.

The other option would be a lymph massage. This you have to pay for

and find the right person to do it. Or you could just go get a

regular massage, but let them know you need to focus on the lymph

nodes, if that is possible.

If the leg swelling is due to inefficient kidneys (and it sounds like

you have some issues there, like a number of us did), you can help

your kidneys by taking herbs to help clear them out and strenghten

them. These would be dandelion, marshmallow root, uva ursi, and

gravel root, but there are others you can check out as well. It might

be a good idea to get on an herbal program that specifically supports

the kidneys and stay on it. Here is a good link that contains info

on those herbs:

http://www.evenstaronline.com/articles/urinary.html

I'm concerned about what you said about the rocks in your

breasts....if it has been some time since explant, you may want to

keep an eye on the possibility that the scar tissue is changing and

calcifying. That could be an issue down the road.

But let's get you better right now!

I hope you are getting some relief already!

Hugs,

Patty

> > >

> > > ,

> > > For the hair loss, have you had your thyroid thoroughly

checked?

> > This issue will probably take some time to resolve. I just got a

> > letter from a group member who is still dealing with the hair

loss

> > issue several years after explant. This seems to be a persistent

> > problem. Are you taking alot of essential fatty acids? Fish oil

> and

> > evening primrose oil are necessary supplements for hair health.

> > >

> > > As for the kidney pain, I've dealt with this issue a number of

> > times, and I found that I can get rid of it pretty quickly using

> all

> > natural therapies. I have not had to go to the doctor for any

> > antibiotics if I start taking care of this problem immediately.

> The

> > last time I had a problem was in Feb. 2001, two and a half years

> > ago, so I know these work:

> > >

> > > 1) Eat lots of raw garlic. Raw garlic is a potent killer of

> > pathogenic organisms that can contribute to infections of any

> kind.

> > Eat up to 12 cloves a day. If you need ideas, look in the files

> > section, or ask, as I've found many ways to get down raw garlic

in

> > quantity.

> > > 2) Take grapefruit seed extract, also a purifier, several

times

> a

> > day.

> > > 3) These herbs will help keep the urinary tract infection

clear:

> > dandelion, uva ursi, parsley, marshmallow root. You can take

them

> in

> > pill form, or you can make a tea and drink it all day long.

> > > 4) Buy a detox tea, such as Yogi Detox tea __http://www.good-

h_

> (http://www.good-_/)

> > (_http://www.good-h_ (http://www.good-/) )

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> > a manager at one of our shops who was ready to miss work due to

a

> > budding kidney infection, actually debating on going to the

doctor

> > for an antibiotic, and we bought him a box of this tea. He drank

> two

> > pots of it, and came in the next day, totally thrilled that it

> fixed

> > him right up, no more kidney pain.

> > > 5) Definitely keep lots of fluids moving through the kidneys

and

> > bladder. Drink alot of water (or tea, as above) and go to the

> > bathroom often. My typical way of dealing with this issue is to

> fix

> > a gallon of tea or water, take it to the bathroom with a good

> book,

> > sit on the toilet and just drink and go when the urge strikes,

> drink

> > and go, and I find that the urge to urinate increases in

frequency

> > the longer I sit on the toilet and drink fluid. This allows any

> > bacteria in the bladder to be removed before it can take hold

and

> > blow up into a bigger infection, and all the antimicrobial herbs

> and

> > garlic ensures that everything is being killed off. Eventually

the

> > burning feeling goes away, (within an hour or so) and the plus

is

> > that I've gotten in a good chunk of reading time to boot! Works

> for

> > me!

> > > Good luck, . I am so glad you are explanted and on the

road

> > to recovery. Hope this helps.

> > > Patty

> > > Re: Re: my explantation surgery

> > >

> > >

> > > Hey ladies:

> > >

> > > As some of you know has the implants removed about 3 weeks

> > ago. Feel fine in terms of healing. A bit disappointed though,

the

> > hair loss seemed to decrease the week after removal, but in last

> few

> > day has increased again. I also am still having kidney pain,

> suspect

> > I have an infection in my kidneys. Any suggestions?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Be careful with the leg swelling . . . my pulmonary embolism started with one leg swelling abnormally for a period of time before the PE hit.

The strange thing was that everywhere I poked my legs hurt . . . but moving it didn't hurt.

You might want your doctor to do a doppler test on your legs to check the circulation

Hugs,

Rogene

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