Guest guest Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Do any of you have experience with recovering from Hashimoto's hypothyroiditis? Or other autoimmune disorders for that matter, but I'm wondering how it goes with hashimoto's. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 wrote: > Do any of you have experience with recovering from Hashimoto's > hypothyroiditis? Or other autoimmune disorders for that matter, but I'm > wondering how it goes with hashimoto's. , I do not have experience with hashimoto's specifically, but I specialize in auto-immune disorders in animals - and it works the same way as in people. I find the best approach to be homeopathy as somehow it can " tell " the body how to undo the situation causing the symptoms - if the right remedy is selected. I owe my life to homeopathy and my homeopath. I was so near dead in April 2001 when I found a homeopath to help me after getting nowhere with the medical profession. (As a homeopath I can't treat myself - apart from being way too sick to try at the time - it needs an objective person.) I had CHF, diabetes, undiagnosed Cushings, Gittelmans, bordetella bronchiseptica, for starters - all due to compromised immune system. Most days I had to crawl to the bathroom and lived on a bed outside the bathroom door; took an hour of panting to recover from such effort of traversing a few feet. It was all I could do to get through the day with food delivered by friends etc. Today I rode a bicycle 5 miles including some hills, and I am able to be productive about 4 hours a day, and I can look after my cats and house unaided (well enough to get by, but not Martha style!) I plan to get well enough to write a book on cat health and homeopathy and I KNOW I'll get healthy enough to do it. There's no more CHF or bordetella and the rest is much improved. So I am not yet cured - but I am well on the way. And for the first time since 2001 I have had several months in a row without pneumonia and sinusitis to deal with as permanent complications due to immune compromise. So I really know that homeopathy can do a reversal of serious immune system compromise. In my own homeopathy practise, I concentrate on immune compromise illness in cats and I am quite well known for my success. Most of my cases are ones the vets have given up on, and are close to terminal when I start out. The conventional medical profession does not have answers to messed up immune systems. They try to sweep them under the carpet with steroids - just the wrong thing to do. There is a caveat though. Individuals who have had a lot of steroids (and I am the equivalent with my cells drowning in cortisol - and it is a common thing for doctors to do in hashimoto's) are MUCH harder to repair than those with no steroid suppressing the immune system, especially the thymus. It's the thymus that gets messed up by drugs, vaccinations and so on - and it's the thymus that is our defence against chronic diseases. And a single steroid application can destroy 90% of the thymus per animal research. So it is a difficultbattle in presence of steroid. Th-2 skewed diseases like cushings and hashimnotos make antigens that think the body is foreign. Some diseases like MS, Lupus and certain liver diseases are skewed the other way round - too little Th-2 activity and too much Th-1. But the majority of immune compromise diseases are Th-2 skewed. So if I had Hashimoto's I'd get the best trained homeopath available. Someone who trained at one of the better in depth schools of the type that registers professionals in countries sensible enough to recognize the profession. British Institute of Homeopathy (BIH) where I trained, is one and has an American chapter and is in many countries. You can write to the US director for a reference if you like (I'll supply name and email if you are interested). The New Zealand school of homeopathy, can't remember the name of it off hand, is another. And there is one good school in Canada. In USA any school can claim to produce homeopaths - unfortunately - and there is one organization that trains " homeopaths " in 4 weekends flat - so you need to be careful what training they have. Would you see a doctor who trained in 4 weekends flat? Not likely! I have had many years of training - more than a doctor - and you need it to do it well. (I am currently a tutor for BIH.) Don't for example go to someone who is a chiropractor or doctor or some other professional who says they are " also " a homeopath. You don't go to a plumber who is " also " a brain surgeon if you see my point. If they are not full time homeopaths they are not what you want for something as serious as Hashimoto's - it's not " first aid " homeopathy which is taught as " homeopathy " in too many places in USA:-( (Gives the profession a bad name unfortunately.) Homeopathy takes time because it does not attack the symptoms but removes the cause and helps the body rebuild health. So that takes time - especially in a disease that has been building for perhaps decades. But it is the one way I know that actually restores health after chronic disease rather than sweeping *symptoms* under the carpet so to speak, and allowing others to emerge elsewhere instead. Hashimoto's is also Th-2 skewed - and that overactive side of the immune system basically attacks thyroid cells not seeing that they are self. A supplement that helps Th-1 be in better balance is Moducare - but it does no permanent improvement though it helps while it is being taken. I take it myself and know all about it if I stop - but the homeopathic approach I use is slowly overcoming the situation permanently - and that's what one wants. Moducare and other immune rebalancing supplements (there are several if you are interested - it may be too off topic here?) do help in the meantime. All auto-immune disorders are basically due to imbalance between Th-1 and Th-2 cytokines - if they are skewed either way - you get immune system malfunctions. So that's what to get right in order to restore health. Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 Hi Irene, You say that there is one good homeopathy school in Canada. Could you tell me what it is called and where it is? Thanks, Sharon (Ontario) Canada Re: Remission of Hashimoto's? And there is one good school in Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 Thanks Irene- I was thinking of trying a Naturopath, there are only 5 in my state that I can find, so I'll call them and get their credentials. I think I am in the process of thyroid improvement, and have now stopped taking they synthroid because I felt overmedicated. My doctor doesn't think it's likely that I could get better, and meanwhile my T4 and TSH are high-normal. The TSH should go low if the T4 is high, so I still have some unanswered questions (and it gets a little lower each time even though I've been reducing the synthroid, so maybe it's just slow to catch on). In the old days I could hardly get out of bed with a TSH above 4, now it's up near 6 and I feel great without the synthroid, but hyperthyroid symptoms with it. I think I'll try to get my nephew into a naturopath once I find a good one. He's such a smart guy, but can hardly go to high school because of recurrent epstein barr, recurrent sinus infections and sinus surgeries, and major sleep difficulties, to name just a few of his problems. He's a B, and that helps explain the recurrent virus, but I can't really get him to try the diet. - Re: Remission of Hashimoto's? wrote: > Do any of you have experience with recovering from Hashimoto's > hypothyroiditis? Or other autoimmune disorders for that matter, but I'm > wondering how it goes with hashimoto's. , I do not have experience with hashimoto's specifically, but I specialize in auto-immune disorders in animals - and it works the same way as in people. I find the best approach to be homeopathy as somehow it can " tell " the body how to undo the situation causing the symptoms - if the right remedy is selected. I owe my life to homeopathy and my homeopath. I was so near dead in April 2001 when I found a homeopath to help me after getting nowhere with the medical profession. (As a homeopath I can't treat myself - apart from being way too sick to try at the time - it needs an objective person.) I had CHF, diabetes, undiagnosed Cushings, Gittelmans, bordetella bronchiseptica, for starters - all due to compromised immune system. Most days I had to crawl to the bathroom and lived on a bed outside the bathroom door; took an hour of panting to recover from such effort of traversing a few feet. It was all I could do to get through the day with food delivered by friends etc. Today I rode a bicycle 5 miles including some hills, and I am able to be productive about 4 hours a day, and I can look after my cats and house unaided (well enough to get by, but not Martha style!) I plan to get well enough to write a book on cat health and homeopathy and I KNOW I'll get healthy enough to do it. There's no more CHF or bordetella and the rest is much improved. So I am not yet cured - but I am well on the way. And for the first time since 2001 I have had several months in a row without pneumonia and sinusitis to deal with as permanent complications due to immune compromise. So I really know that homeopathy can do a reversal of serious immune system compromise. In my own homeopathy practise, I concentrate on immune compromise illness in cats and I am quite well known for my success. Most of my cases are ones the vets have given up on, and are close to terminal when I start out. The conventional medical profession does not have answers to messed up immune systems. They try to sweep them under the carpet with steroids - just the wrong thing to do. There is a caveat though. Individuals who have had a lot of steroids (and I am the equivalent with my cells drowning in cortisol - and it is a common thing for doctors to do in hashimoto's) are MUCH harder to repair than those with no steroid suppressing the immune system, especially the thymus. It's the thymus that gets messed up by drugs, vaccinations and so on - and it's the thymus that is our defence against chronic diseases. And a single steroid application can destroy 90% of the thymus per animal research. So it is a difficultbattle in presence of steroid. Th-2 skewed diseases like cushings and hashimnotos make antigens that think the body is foreign. Some diseases like MS, Lupus and certain liver diseases are skewed the other way round - too little Th-2 activity and too much Th-1. But the majority of immune compromise diseases are Th-2 skewed. So if I had Hashimoto's I'd get the best trained homeopath available. Someone who trained at one of the better in depth schools of the type that registers professionals in countries sensible enough to recognize the profession. British Institute of Homeopathy (BIH) where I trained, is one and has an American chapter and is in many countries. You can write to the US director for a reference if you like (I'll supply name and email if you are interested). The New Zealand school of homeopathy, can't remember the name of it off hand, is another. And there is one good school in Canada. In USA any school can claim to produce homeopaths - unfortunately - and there is one organization that trains " homeopaths " in 4 weekends flat - so you need to be careful what training they have. Would you see a doctor who trained in 4 weekends flat? Not likely! I have had many years of training - more than a doctor - and you need it to do it well. (I am currently a tutor for BIH.) Don't for example go to someone who is a chiropractor or doctor or some other professional who says they are " also " a homeopath. You don't go to a plumber who is " also " a brain surgeon if you see my point. If they are not full time homeopaths they are not what you want for something as serious as Hashimoto's - it's not " first aid " homeopathy which is taught as " homeopathy " in too many places in USA:-( (Gives the profession a bad name unfortunately.) Homeopathy takes time because it does not attack the symptoms but removes the cause and helps the body rebuild health. So that takes time - especially in a disease that has been building for perhaps decades. But it is the one way I know that actually restores health after chronic disease rather than sweeping *symptoms* under the carpet so to speak, and allowing others to emerge elsewhere instead. Hashimoto's is also Th-2 skewed - and that overactive side of the immune system basically attacks thyroid cells not seeing that they are self. A supplement that helps Th-1 be in better balance is Moducare - but it does no permanent improvement though it helps while it is being taken. I take it myself and know all about it if I stop - but the homeopathic approach I use is slowly overcoming the situation permanently - and that's what one wants. Moducare and other immune rebalancing supplements (there are several if you are interested - it may be too off topic here?) do help in the meantime. All auto-immune disorders are basically due to imbalance between Th-1 and Th-2 cytokines - if they are skewed either way - you get immune system malfunctions. So that's what to get right in order to restore health. Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 wrote: > Thanks Irene- > > I was thinking of trying a Naturopath, Hi , A naturopath and a homeopath are two very different things - I have tried a naturopath for my own immune compromise situation but they can only palliate as with herbs etc, not repair. Homeopathy can repair and restore health. A homeopath will sometimes also use herbs etc to help in the meantime while the remedy works to restore true health, as in chronic cases it can take a long time to restore health. So just so you know there is a difference in approach between naturopathy (which uses herbs and natural remedies) and homeopathy - which uses homeopathic remedies on a NON-chemical level, to change the energy balance in the body. It's the energy change that restores health - it can't happen on the chemical level first - it has to be on the energy level first and the physical level will go there as surely as iron goes to a magnet. With naturopathy you are trying to push the system in a direction you like chemically speaking - but there is no energy field to keep it there. That's the closest I can explain it without writing a very long explanation on how homeopathy uses principles observed in nature and copies them and enhances effectiveness by " potentizing " the remedies. When homeopathy works it is good because it removes the predisposition to go wrong and replaces with a resistance to going wrong. In fact that is how it works. Once there is resistance to the situation instead of predisposition - the body remedies the rest itself. So a naturopath can help - but not in the same way as homeopathy. Homeopathy is the only system I have seen able to influence health that involves potentially iniherited aspects - and is the best I know to restore balance to an out of whack immune or endocrine system. Sorry if you know all this - I just wanted to be sure we were not talking at cross purposes. I respect whatever choice you make. It's just a much misunderstood area - the difference between naturopathy and homeopathy - so I hope this is helpful to differentiate. (A naturopath can not do the in depth homeopathy needed - that a full time homeopath would use - even if they do dabble in homeopathic remedies the way some doctors do.) I hope you find a way that really works to restore health. It's better than just a remission. That's what I am aiming for with my cushing's syndrome - and slowly I am getting it :-) Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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