Guest guest Posted February 3, 2003 Report Share Posted February 3, 2003 Joy, a long time ago Dr. Bill wrote a message about tricyclic anti-depressants and Valium. Both help fibromyalgia pain. However, a lot of Doctors have concerns about Valium. The other anti-anxiety drugs do help as well, but of all of them, Valium is the most effective for Fibro pain. However, I did try the tricyclics first and the reason I had to stop is because they give me tachicardia. I think many people have stopped taking tricyclics is because of the various side-effects, regardless whether they are taking them for depression or for some other condition. ly, for me Valium has been a blessing. Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2003 Report Share Posted February 12, 2003 Matt, I just saw your mail on Valium, and I just took some last night, and it helped me a lot. I wonder what it is doing that the pain pills aren't? I am going to see how I feel for a few more days then take another one, and see if it has the same effect, then talk to my doc about it. Let me know what you know about the difference between them are, ok? EFD Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2003 Report Share Posted February 12, 2003 EFD, as far as I know, Valium acts as anti-spasmatic - I don' t know if that is a word, but it stops the process of small muscle spasms which some scientists and doctors believe cause fibromyalgia. As Liz said, it isn't for everybody. However, I get bad side effects from muscle relaxants and no side-effects from Valium. I guess it just depends. Nor have I found it to be addictive, I have been off it several times with no cravings for it whatsoever. It does have a long half life and eventually you have to have the doseage raised in order for it to remain effective, so as with anything, there is a downside. I started at 5 mgs, I am now at 10, I think the absolute highest is 50, but I am not sure. Also, valium makes the effects of alcohol stronger. If you do drink, ask your Doctor about it if you have to cut back or stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 I would be scared to take valium. I took a little bit for a while when my first husband was sick with cancer and I was up in the hospital staying with him. I was so stressed out. But i t was doing weird things to me.. I was not thinking too straight---kinda starey eyed---taking a very low dose too.. like 5 mg. One day I found myself wandering through the library staring at the books and could'nt even think to pick one out. I kept thinking, Yes these are books... nice... hmmm... So I quit the valium...even though I didn't sleep as well. Before nothing woke me up except once when a nurse dropped a mental bedpan on the tile floor.. After i quit tking valium i was awake for everything. Liz ~~~~~~ " Do what you can, for who you can, with what you have, and where you are. " ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ EMAIL: juliette@... **ICQ 49746198** MSN-LizKP1952@... PERSONAL HOMEPAGE PAGE http://members.tripod.com/~LizK ADDult HOME PAGE: http://members.tripod.com/~LizK/addult.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 In a message dated 2/13/03 2:14:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, paco1@... writes: > They really believe that Valium can cause FMS Dawn, I believe Matt said that some doctors feel that muscle spasms can cause FMS...not that Valium can cause it. Valium sometimes is used for muscle spasms. If Valium is used over an extented period of time...it should be discontinued gradually or you may get withdrawal symptoms and even seizures. Anyone who is taking Valium for long periods of time, be sure and have your doctor follow you on a gradual withdrawal of the drug. Connie <<Valium is used in the treatment of anxiety disorders and for short-term relief of the symptoms of anxiety. It belongs to a class of drugs known as benzodiazepines. It is also used to relieve the symptoms of acute alcohol withdrawal, to relax muscles, to relieve the uncontrolled muscle movements caused by cerebral palsy and paralysis of the lower body and limbs, to control involuntary movement of the hands (athetosis), to relax tight, aching muscles, and, along with other medications, to treat convulsive disorders such as epilepsy. Side effects due to rapid decrease in dose or abrupt withdrawal from Valium: Abdominal and muscle cramps, convulsions, sweating, tremors, vomiting>> http://www.healthsquare.com/newrx/VAL1473.HTM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 Valuim- With its strong affinity for opiod binding receptors you don't feel the pain and it may lessen muscles spasms as well as Matt said. However, for some people it can be addicting and the literature indicates that. <A HREF= " http://www.addictionca.com/FAQ-valium.htm " >http://www.addictionca.com/FAQ-\ valium.htm</A> Its like everything else addiction varies by person, but with a benzo you can have addiction. Regards, Dave in NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 <<but it stops the process of small muscle spasms which some scientists and doctors believe cause fibromyalgia.>> Hi Matt, I was shocked to read this. They really believe that Valium can cause FMS? Do you know what their reasoning is for this? This really interests me! Thanks, Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 In a message dated 2/13/03 7:24:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, paco1@... writes: > I'm really not with it Dawn, I don't think any of us are " with it " ...with all the meds we have to take. It is a wonder that we get through the day. I wake up bright and alert, but by 5:00 PM my mind just doesn't work anymore. Indocin fog, vicodin brain freeze and old timers disease takes its toll. Almost all the meds we have to take have these type of side effects. Add the stress that come with added flares....and you wonder why we aren't in the nut house. Best regards, Connie AS/IBD/Bilateral Uveitis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 I'm sorry, all, I'm really not with it, but I thought that is what Matt wrote. Sorry about that. I do know about Valium as I've been on it...guess I didn't read it correctly. Dawn << Dawn, I believe Matt said that some doctors feel that muscle spasms can cause FMS...not that Valium can cause it.>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 Hi Connie, What you have written is true, about not being with it, but I'm still having a VERY hard time dealing with the death of my best friend. I re-read what Matt wrote and I think what he meant was that the ~spasms~ cause the FMS, not the Valium. Matt, could you please explain? The more I think of it, the more confused I'm getting! lol Take care, Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2003 Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 Hi Dawn, Valium has proved by several scientific studies to be an anti-spasmodic and it is an effective pain reliever for FMS. I find it helps me a lot and it is by far the best pain reliever for FMS that I have ever tried. I take it with time-released morphine and for the first time in my life my overall pain level has gone down instead of up. May God bless you during this time and give you comfort over the loss of your best friend, in Jesus' name. Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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