Guest guest Posted April 4, 2001 Report Share Posted April 4, 2001 , I can honestly say that what was said in this post is all wrong where robert is concerned. It could be right with other kids but not robert. one thing i saw was treating a child with amoxicillan. only kids under the age of 3 are treated with amoxcillan now. Augmentum and Erithamisus(sp) are front line AB's for infection with kids over the age of 3. x-rays do show infection in the sinus but not how bad the infection is. the only way to see that is by ct scan. the sinus behind the eyes can't be seen by regular x rays only by ct scan. Like i said robert has shown to be unusual with his condistion so the dr says. i wish robert was as easy to treat as that post said. It would certainly get rid of some of my stress and give him a more normal life. I am expecting him to have another bout with his sinus after today. we have hurricane warnings/alerts and that with thunderstorms usually mess him up. the humid air makes it hard for him to breath. he says the air feels so thick that he can't breath. i can't wait for his surgery so he can breath better. shelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2001 Report Share Posted April 4, 2001 My son has had rotten sinuses since he was a lil kid and he is 15 now and I know the only thing that clears him up whenever is to be put on strong antibiotics....and nasal sprays....he gets asthma(can go from 100%lung capacity to 20% in a an hour at times)if the stuff gets to his chest and then possible pneumonia....so I try to keep him on his inhalers like he should. He takes showers every morning and inhales water off his hands and then gets his sinuses cleaned out...sounds gross I know but his dr said it was easy and best way to clean them...fortuinately he has never had to have surgery on them....Judy in AZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2001 Report Share Posted April 4, 2001 Antibiotics don't speed sinusitis recovery: study By Merritt McKinney NEW YORK, Apr 02 (Reuters Health) - Most children with cough, runny nose and other symptoms of sinus trouble are unlikely to benefit from antibiotics, researchers report. In a study of children diagnosed with acute sinusitis lasting at least 10 days, those given an inactive (placebo) pill were just as likely to get better as children prescribed antibiotics. Symptoms improved within 7 days in 81% of children in each group and within 10 days in 87% of all children. " There was no benefit of antibiotics versus placebo for getting rid of symptoms, " the study's first author, Dr. Jane M. Garbutt of Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri, told Reuters Health in an interview. The study included 188 patients aged 1 to 18 diagnosed with acute sinusitis. Symptoms such as cough, runny nose and green nasal discharge had lasted 10 to 28 days. Researchers did not enroll patients with more severe sinusitis, characterized by longer-lasting symptoms, facial pain and swelling and fever. Children were treated with a placebo or one of two types of antibiotics, amoxicillin or amoxicillin-clavulanate. The study also found that antibiotic therapy was no better than placebo for preventing the relapse or recurrence of symptoms, or reducing absences from school or day care. Side effects were similar in all three treatment groups, although children taking amoxicillin were more likely to experience abdominal pain, the researchers report in the April issue of the journal Pediatrics. " It's a difficult study to report...(since) it doesn't make life any easier, " according to Garbutt. Antibiotics " are not the panacea they were thought to be " for sinusitis, she continued. Although some parents are concerned that a child will develop complications if symptoms are left untreated, " that's highly unlikely, " Garbutt stated. " If you just hang in there, the children will get better on their own, " she said. Garbutt acknowledged that diagnosing and treating sinusitis in children--and adults--is difficult, since there is no good diagnostic test. Even though x-rays are sometimes used to confirm a diagnosis of sinusitis, they are unreliable, she said. Most cases of sinusitis appear to be caused by viruses, against which antibiotics are powerless, Garbutt explained. But she noted that the study does not mean that antibiotics should never be used to treat sinusitis or other acute respiratory illnesses, only that they should be used " judiciously. " Some children may have bacterial infections that will respond to antibiotics, so a doctor may prescribe antibiotics for some children with symptoms that will not go away on their own, she said. Since amoxicillin-clavulanate--known as a broad-spectrum antibiotic because it targets a wide variety of bacteria--was no better than amoxicillin alone at improving symptoms, amoxicillin appears to be a better choice if a doctor decides to prescribe an antibiotic for sinusitis. Prescribing the more targeted antibiotic may reduce the risk of developing antibiotic resistance in a variety of bacteria, she noted. While Garbutt said that there is little evidence that over-the-counter medications such as decongestants provide much relief to sinusitis sufferers, she said over-the-counter pain medications may help children feel better. The study was funded by the Hoechst n Roussel ACCORD Grants Program. SOURCE: Pediatrics 2001;107:619-625. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2001 Report Share Posted April 5, 2001 Hey, ! There is no denying that 's sinus problems are in a class such that he wouldn't have been included in this study. I really hope that his surgery alleviates his discomfort permanently. One important conclusion one can draw from this study is that the authors believe that most sinusitis cases in children are very likely caused by viruses, not bacteria, so antibiotic treatment would be absolutely ineffective most of the time. In this article they also point out that diagnosis is difficult. In addition, it's not practical to order x-rays or costly CT scans for each child who comes in with sinusitis symptoms. Again, as you said and as I know, is a very special exception and not a typical case of childhood sinusitis; they stated that in the study they excluded severe cases. Right now in medicine there is a growing and important movement to reduce the amount of unnecessary prescriptions for antibiotics physicians write. Across the globe, but particularly in the US, we have overused antibiotics to such an extent that we have come up against some strains of bacteria that are very difficult to treat now. Also, the study isn't saying that physicians should never prescribe antibiotics for acute sinusitis, it is suggesting that, most of the time, it is not going to help. Augmentin is amoxicillin and potassium clavulanate. I'm not sure about the other antibiotic you mentioned. I'm assuming it's some form of erythromycin. ----- Original Message ----- From: <12341234@...> < > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Antibiotics don't speed sinusitis recovery: study > , > > I can honestly say that what was said in this post is all wrong where robert > is concerned. It could be right with other kids but not robert. one thing i > saw was treating a child with amoxicillan. only kids under the age of 3 are > treated with amoxcillan now. Augmentum and Erithamisus(sp) are front line > AB's for infection with kids over the age of 3. > > x-rays do show infection in the sinus but not how bad the infection is. the > only way to see that is by ct scan. the sinus behind the eyes can't be seen > by regular x rays only by ct scan. > > Like i said robert has shown to be unusual with his condistion so the dr > says. i wish robert was as easy to treat as that post said. It would > certainly get rid of some of my stress and give him a more normal life. > > I am expecting him to have another bout with his sinus after today. we have > hurricane warnings/alerts and that with thunderstorms usually mess him up. > the humid air makes it hard for him to breath. he says the air feels so thick > that he can't breath. i can't wait for his surgery so he can breath better. > > shelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2001 Report Share Posted April 5, 2001 , yes you are right robert is in a class all his own. lol. you are also right that drs write a prescrition to quickly this days. I have seen parents have fits because the dr didn't give their child or themselves an AB. I say if you don't need it, don't take it. I guess i missed the part about not counting the severe cases. It wouldn't surprise me. Muscle relaxants do seem to cloud my brain a bit. I live in an area that roberts dr says that he sees half the kids in the area cause of all the pollution and pollen around here. He said that in a study the goverment is doing Mobile, Alabama is one of the worst places to live if you have sinus allergies or allergies in general and asthma. yes you assumed right about the AB. can't take either of those, dr says to much of a chance for him to have an allergic reaction since he is allergic to penicillen. Both of those ABs upset my tummy and upset justin and jareds tummy to, if i remember correctly its also affects jesse but not jake. shelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2001 Report Share Posted April 5, 2001 and all, Just to let you know, the drs office called with the benifits for surgery. Our insurance said no deductable and it covers 100% of the surgery just have a co pay for the hospital that they will bill us for but my ex husband will be coming up for the surgery and he will pay for that and they said it shouldn't be more then $50.00. More good news. I also got a letter from the dr stating about how serious roberts problem is so iam setting up a new IEP meeting because i think his problem has affected his grades a bit. Iam not gonna let them label like they did jesse and jake. has to go to that school next year and they might as well realize now i am not gonna take any more crap from this school district any more. shelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2001 Report Share Posted April 5, 2001 Hi, ...I would love to see the actual study...do you have it available for me to read? I have known for a long time that antibiotics don't really help sinusitis, but, only to stop the secondary infection of Bacterial Meningitis... Thanks! AiMeE....Herbalist Message: 4 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 20:19:08 -0500 From: " Matsumura " <Matsumura_Clan@...> Subject: Re: Antibiotics don't speed sinusitis recovery: study Hey, ! There is no denying that 's sinus problems are in a class such that he wouldn't have been included in this study. I really hope that his surgery alleviates his discomfort permanently. One important conclusion one can draw from this study is that the authors believe that most sinusitis cases in children are very likely caused by viruses, not bacteria, so antibiotic treatment would be absolutely ineffective most of the time. In this article they also point out that diagnosis is difficult. In addition, it's not practical to order x-rays or costly CT scans for each child who comes in with sinusitis symptoms. Again, as you said and as I know, is a very special exception and not a typical case of childhood sinusitis; they stated that in the study they excluded severe cases. Right now in medicine there is a growing and important movement to reduce the amount of unnecessary prescriptions for antibiotics physicians write. Across the globe, but particularly in the US, we have overused antibiotics to such an extent that we have come up against some strains of bacteria that are very difficult to treat now. Also, the study isn't saying that physicians should never prescribe antibiotics for acute sinusitis, it is suggesting that, most of the time, it is not going to help. Augmentin is amoxicillin and potassium clavulanate. I'm not sure about the other antibiotic you mentioned. I'm assuming it's some form of erythromycin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2001 Report Share Posted April 5, 2001 Hello, Aimee! The study, " A Randomized, Placebo-Controlled Trial of Antimicrobial Treatment for Children With Clinically Diagnosed Acute Sinusitis, " was published in the journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics, " Pediatrics " (Pediatrics 2001;107:619-625). I don't have access to the full text version, but here is the link to the abstract: http://www.pediatrics.org/cgi/content/abstract/107/4/619 Happy reading! ----- Original Message ----- From: " Aimee Monteil " <sparklingmoon@...> < > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 1:03 PM Subject: [ ] Re: Antibiotics don't speed sinusitis recovery: study > Hi, ...I would love to see the actual study...do you have it available > for me to read? I have known for a long time that antibiotics don't really > help sinusitis, but, only to stop the secondary infection of Bacterial > Meningitis... > Thanks! > AiMeE....Herbalist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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