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I have had my grip strength checked for yrs...starting back in 88 when I had

carpal tunnel....does anyone else find you can grip but no endurance to

your grip....and I do have times when I try to grip I get into spasms in my

hand(esp rt one). The drs used to make me laugh cos they would say I had such

good grip...yea for about 2 seconds and then poof .....havent done one now

since on SS. Judy in AZ

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, they have a metal device that you squeeze that measures how high your

grip strength is. They have what looks like the monitor part on a blood

pressure cuff with the hand moving up as you squeeze. I HATE that damn thing

bcs my hands always hurt after doing it. Since I have to squeeze metal on

already sore joints. I don't have to do that now though, they know as well

as I that I won't make that marker move too high. He does have me squeeze

his hands. I know they can't measure that way as far as to see if there is

any change between visits but they can determine if you have a grip or not.

I never squeeze his hands as hard as I can.

~Rainy Sue

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> Could you tell me how your doctor measured your grip strength? I've had

some

> docs tell me I'm " strong like bull " (and I think I am) and others say I'm

a

> wimp. But I don't think asking me to grip their hands in a handshake and

> then squeezing as hard as I can seems very scientific to me (that's the

only

> way they assessed my grip strength).

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Yes, Rainy! I've seen those gizmos in books, but I've never seen one in a

rheumy's office. I was wondering, just out of curiosity, if used one

of those or the handshake method. The handshake method seems fairly silly,

but I suppose it could mean something to a rheumy with a lot of experience.

I also have had such a wide range of results that I'm not sure how useful it

is.

I could see why you would hate being tested with the machine. Ouch!

Thanks for your input.

Ever curious,

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> , they have a metal device that you squeeze that measures how high

your

> grip strength is. They have what looks like the monitor part on a blood

> pressure cuff with the hand moving up as you squeeze. I HATE that damn

thing

> bcs my hands always hurt after doing it. Since I have to squeeze metal on

> already sore joints. I don't have to do that now though, they know as well

> as I that I won't make that marker move too high. He does have me squeeze

> his hands. I know they can't measure that way as far as to see if there is

> any change between visits but they can determine if you have a grip or

not.

> I never squeeze his hands as hard as I can.

>

> ~Rainy Sue

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For me, it became a game of trying to beat my last score. It was always

pretty accurate as far as not being really high one visit then really low. I

always hit it near my last score, but the score would go down. =(

~Rainy Sue

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> Yes, Rainy! I've seen those gizmos in books, but I've never seen one in a

> rheumy's office. I was wondering, just out of curiosity, if used one

> of those or the handshake method. The handshake method seems fairly silly,

> but I suppose it could mean something to a rheumy with a lot of

experience.

> I also have had such a wide range of results that I'm not sure how useful

it

> is.

>

> I could see why you would hate being tested with the machine. Ouch!

>

> Thanks for your input.

>

> Ever curious,

>

>

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Gee I feel deprived. The only thing I ever got was my doctor's fingers!

a

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From: Rainy

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 6:58 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] update // grip strength

, they have a metal device that you squeeze that measures how high your

grip strength is. They have what looks like the monitor part on a blood

pressure cuff with the hand moving up as you squeeze. I HATE that damn thing

bcs my hands always hurt after doing it. Since I have to squeeze metal on

already sore joints. I don't have to do that now though, they know as well

as I that I won't make that marker move too high. He does have me squeeze

his hands. I know they can't measure that way as far as to see if there is

any change between visits but they can determine if you have a grip or not.

I never squeeze his hands as hard as I can.

~Rainy Sue

----- Original Message -----

> Could you tell me how your doctor measured your grip strength? I've had

some

> docs tell me I'm " strong like bull " (and I think I am) and others say I'm

a

> wimp. But I don't think asking me to grip their hands in a handshake and

> then squeezing as hard as I can seems very scientific to me (that's the

only

> way they assessed my grip strength).

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Thank you for writing that, a! I was hoping that I wasn't the only one

in the world experiencing the poor man's techniques.

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Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 6:58 PM

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> Gee I feel deprived. The only thing I ever got was my doctor's fingers!

> a

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As long as I've been going to doctors, I've never even heard of it!

I just love this list. I learn so much from everyone.

a

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From: Matsumura

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 8:06 PM

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Thank you for writing that, a! I was hoping that I wasn't the only one

in the world experiencing the poor man's techniques.

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From: " a " <paula54@...>

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Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 6:58 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] update // grip strength

> Gee I feel deprived. The only thing I ever got was my doctor's fingers!

> a

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a,

Even at Mayo, I only gripped the rheumatologist's hand. He told me I was

weak! (Am not! Am not! I'm half Lithuanian, doesn't he know!)

As I was telling Rainy, I've seen pictures of grip force machines before,

but none in real life. For example, in one of my newest RA books,

" Rheumatoid Arthritis: New Frontiers in Pathogenesis and Treatment (Oxford

University Press, 2000), " there is a picture of one such device called,

appropriately enough, " The Grippit. " In the book they talk about the fact

that reduced grip strength and pain are highly correlated to activities of

daily living (ADL) problems. They go on to give an example of how the

threshold value of grip force for being able to use a vacuum cleaner was

determined in one study to be about 60 Newton (N). And, furthermore, in that

study, they had several women hovering around 40 N who could no longer

comfortably vacuum.

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Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 7:12 PM

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> ,

> As long as I've been going to doctors, I've never even heard of it!

> I just love this list. I learn so much from everyone.

> a

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That's interesting. I guess I need a few more Newtons so I can vacuum without

pain. Hope I find them on sale somewhere :)

Sorry for the sick humor, it's been one of those painful days.

hugs,

a

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From: Matsumura

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 8:50 PM

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a,

Even at Mayo, I only gripped the rheumatologist's hand. He told me I was

weak! (Am not! Am not! I'm half Lithuanian, doesn't he know!)

As I was telling Rainy, I've seen pictures of grip force machines before,

but none in real life. For example, in one of my newest RA books,

" Rheumatoid Arthritis: New Frontiers in Pathogenesis and Treatment (Oxford

University Press, 2000), " there is a picture of one such device called,

appropriately enough, " The Grippit. " In the book they talk about the fact

that reduced grip strength and pain are highly correlated to activities of

daily living (ADL) problems. They go on to give an example of how the

threshold value of grip force for being able to use a vacuum cleaner was

determined in one study to be about 60 Newton (N). And, furthermore, in that

study, they had several women hovering around 40 N who could no longer

comfortably vacuum.

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From: " a " <paula54@...>

< >

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 7:12 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] update // grip strength

> ,

> As long as I've been going to doctors, I've never even heard of it!

> I just love this list. I learn so much from everyone.

> a

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My rheumy has a thingy called a manometer that I squeeze(or at least try

to squeeze). This is an indicator as to how you can do other things. A

regular dr. can use a BP meter pumped up and record the readings.

One of my earlier teaching assignments we were teaching about the

importance of grip strength. I took the first two fingers of the med

student and told him I was going to squeeze hard and let me know if he

felt a difference in my hands. We stared at each other for minutes while

I gripped with all my might and finally thinking he didn't understand,I

asked,do you notice a difference? He looked a little sheepish and

said,I'm sorry,were you squeezing? We all got a laugh out of that one.

Hugs

June

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