Re: All swirled up, need encouragement

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/23/2003 10:05:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

BetsyWestie@... writes:

> What are some green vegetables and maybe some cooking ideas for them. My

> ideas are pretty limited-broccolli, romain.spinach. Do Zuchinni and

> green beans count? I know I am not eating enough of the green

> vegetables.

>

You really need to get the encyclopedia. It has all of the food in it.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/23/2003 11:32:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Hestia@... writes:

> I bought all kinds of pinto beans because

> they were listed as beneficial as an example. I don't have the

> money to buy the encyclopedia right now. Is there anywhere I can

> find a complete up to date list without looking up everything at

> the database?

>

They're not an avoid for non-secretors. Go to <A

HREF= " http://www.dadamo.com/typebase/typebase.cgi " >

http://www.dadamo.com/typebase/typebase.cgi</A> to get the latest food info.

[Guest guest]

Hi...it's me again. I forgot to mention something. One of the other

reasons why my friend didn't think the Blood Type program was

scientific enough is that I tried some of the HB foods, like black

beans, and split pea soup (homemade with the right seasonings) and

they made me ill. And yet, when I ate some pinto beans from Taco

Bell, I had no problem digesting them.

I'm sure there is a logical reason, all in line with correct

scientific findings, etc., but I just don't know what it is; and it

is one of the reasons why I tried to do Atkins, with the blood type

guidelines.

In my first two weeks on Atkins, I did lose 8 pounds, and then went

on to lose 10 more. I'm pleased with my progress, but worried all the

time when I ate things that were a definite no-no on the Blood Type

program, even though they did not make me feel ill.

I also am scared of all those artificial sweeteners, even though I

use them sometimes. I did try the Vegetable Glycerin, but to me, it

has no taste. But once in a while, I want a diet soda as my " treat. "

Diet-Rite uses Splenda, not Aspartame, but highly doubt it's much

better than Aspartame.

How do any of you handle the area of sweeteners? I love the fruit

juices offered, but am afraid to drink them because they are so high

in sugar count.

Thanks so much for your consideration and any help you might be able

to suggest.

Jemmi *_*

[Guest guest]

Jemmi,

I too have done Atkins and I did very well on it. I liked Atkins

because it is easy--meat, cheese, and veggies. Dairy presents no

noticeable problems for me--but internally I can admit that it may be

a different matter. Trying to combine it with BTD ideas definitely

limits your choices and leaves you open to getting out of

ketosis. But there are schools of thought that propose reduced carb

plans, where people lose weight without ketosis and with a modest

calorie reduction (20% reduction). I can only speak for myself, but I

stalled on Atkins after about 4 months--and being in ketosis didn't

seem to make much difference. I stalled for over 5 months and

gradually began adding in carbs and increasing my exercise. The diet

was no longer working for my body and I was becoming bitter about it.

I must admit that I was not smart--I limited my carbs (15-20 grams a

day) for way too long--I damaged my own metabolism by being too

restrictive for too long. I have since tried to do Atkins 5 more

times and have had no success with it again.

I have researched ketogenic diets and carb-cycling diets that

weight lifters use and can honestly say that I am hopeful about carb-

cycling. I am not suggesting that you do this, but the body does get

used to things (foods, exercises, habits, etc.). The body gets used

to reduced carbs and it can temporary lose the ability to use carbs

efficiently in the event that they are reintroduced. Some carbs are

necessary too because a little bit of insulin production is needed to

shuttle the amino acids from protein into muscles cells. Think about

that--you get much more out of your protein if you eat a small-modest

amount of carbs with it. Excessively low carb just doesn't seem like

a good way to keep muscle mass and it is your muscle that burns fat.

You are probably looking for a life plan--not just a quick fix. I

will tell you what my plan is, since I have been working on it for

the last 3 weeks and it might help you think of something. I plan to

take one night this week to come up with actual meals so that I can

start my custom made program in a total state of preparedness.

I have a good amount of weight to lose, even though I have been

doing aerobics 6 days a week and lifting weight 3 days a week (since

early July), so I know that I must do one thing for weight loss and

another for maintenance. I am going to use the well known carb

cycling approach combined with the 30% calorie reduction--10% calorie

reduction approach (also well known). Since I exercise almost daily

it is not wise to reduce my carb level (even though I am very

sensitive) below 25%--my 3 low carb days will look like this=45%

protein, 25% carbs, 30% fat--all at 30% below my maintenance caloric

level. You can estimate your maintenance caloric needs by taking your

current body weight and multiplying it by 12.5--gives you a decent

ball park. My high carb 4th day will look like this=30% protein, 45%

carbs, 25% fat--this will be at 10% below maintenance caloric level.

Note that when you raise your carbs you must reduce your fat. A

careful review of reference literature convinced me that this

approach has worked for many endomorphic people who are prone to

weight gain and are committed to working on it through a combination

of proper eating and daily exercise. When I get to a healthy body fat

percentage it should be safe to return to something more moderate for

maintenance, like the 40-30-30 Zone approach with low glycemic BTD

food choices. I've used the Zone macronutrient ratios before and

think that the idea works well for maintenance--but his calorie

recommendations are way too low so I wouldn't use them.

I don't know what you are looking at for weight loss, but I do

find that Atkins got my hopes up pretty high. The weight came off

easy at first--and quickly, but I know that I lost muscle mass. The

weight loss then stopped all together and I was realistically hoping

for 1-2 pounds of FAT loss per week (anything more than that usually

means muscle tissue is lost too).

Since you are not seeing the results that you want I think that

you would do well to seriously consider changing your strategy. I

think that you should look into how to divide up your macronutrient

ratios and that you should balance each meal according. It would be

easier to match a 20-30% carb plan with the BTD and your would have

better nutrient intake. I have also been brow beaten into realizing

that 5-6 small meals a day is much better for your metabolism and

that protein at each meal will keep your muscle tissue happy. I used

to skip meals all the time--not good. Sometimes I would even save up

my carbs for a special dinner meal--not good. I also always thought

that I was drinking enough water--but now that I drink over 1 gallon

a day I realize that I was not consuming enough to keep my metabolism

happy.

Just some things to consider. I am not a doctor and I don't claim

to be an expert--my degrees are not in nutrition. I am a good

researcher who has spent most of her time reading contradictory

theories--it can be very hard to separate the facts. I have also

noted that what are facts for some people (don't ever snack, eat lots

of carbs, eat no fat, etc.) are not necessarily facts for me. I hope

that you can make some sense out of all of this and find something

that works for you.

Good luck,

Lydia

In , " jemmijemmi " <Jem5252@a...> wrote:

> Hi. I've been trying to lose weight doing the Atkins program, but

>so many of the things that he allows conflicts with what a Type O

>should have. For awhile, I tried to do Atkins, " A la D'adamo, " but

>I felt like I was eating the same thing all the time. People said

>I'd drive myself nuts, and I have.

>

> The reason I have been hesitant to do the Eat Right Program is

> because it offers bread, grains, fruit, and fruit juices. The one

> thing I did learn is that I am definitely carbohydrate-sensitive.

>

> So now, I'm trying to rethink this. One of my friends was pro-

> Atkins, and didn't feel that the Blood Type program was as

scientific

> as Atkins, because they said it was too general in their minds,

like

> maybe bacon is bad for " some " O's, but not for me, and that I would

> be depriving myself of something that could help me lose weight,

like

> on the Atkins program, etc.

>>

> Any words of advice, encouragement would be appreciated, (no

> yelling,please)...lol I'm here to hopefully become " UN-swirled. "

> Thanks so much!

[Guest guest]

A simple way to do this is: eat 5 to 6 meals - protein (size of your

fist), carbs - (green veggies and as much as you want), fat - flax/olive

oil/butter) - 1 tablespoon per meal. Carb cycling is for advanced

" dieters " . Way too complicated for newbies. Atkins died of a heart

attack, so be careful eating dairy and all the other avoids.

To think that a food will not affect your system in a negative way just

because it is free of carbs is very foolish.

Exercise daily with weights, & this is where you will need some help.

Look into Body For Life by Bill Philips

Do drink lots of water.

How much do you weigh and how much would you like to loose?

Love

http://foodforyourbloodn.goemerchant7.com

<http://foodforyourbloodn.goemerchant7.com/>

Re: All swirled up, need encouragement

Jemmi,

I too have done Atkins and I did very well on it. I liked Atkins

because it is easy--meat, cheese, and veggies. Dairy presents no

noticeable problems for me--but internally I can admit that it may be

a different matter. Trying to combine it with BTD ideas definitely

limits your choices and leaves you open to getting out of

ketosis. But there are schools of thought that propose reduced carb

plans, where people lose weight without ketosis and with a modest

calorie reduction (20% reduction). I can only speak for myself, but I

stalled on Atkins after about 4 months--and being in ketosis didn't

seem to make much difference. I stalled for over 5 months and

gradually began adding in carbs and increasing my exercise. The diet

was no longer working for my body and I was becoming bitter about it.

I must admit that I was not smart--I limited my carbs (15-20 grams a

day) for way too long--I damaged my own metabolism by being too

restrictive for too long. I have since tried to do Atkins 5 more

times and have had no success with it again.

I have researched ketogenic diets and carb-cycling diets that

weight lifters use and can honestly say that I am hopeful about carb-

cycling. I am not suggesting that you do this, but the body does get

used to things (foods, exercises, habits, etc.). The body gets used

to reduced carbs and it can temporary lose the ability to use carbs

efficiently in the event that they are reintroduced. Some carbs are

necessary too because a little bit of insulin production is needed to

shuttle the amino acids from protein into muscles cells. Think about

that--you get much more out of your protein if you eat a small-modest

amount of carbs with it. Excessively low carb just doesn't seem like

a good way to keep muscle mass and it is your muscle that burns fat.

You are probably looking for a life plan--not just a quick fix. I

will tell you what my plan is, since I have been working on it for

the last 3 weeks and it might help you think of something. I plan to

take one night this week to come up with actual meals so that I can

start my custom made program in a total state of preparedness.

I have a good amount of weight to lose, even though I have been

doing aerobics 6 days a week and lifting weight 3 days a week (since

early July), so I know that I must do one thing for weight loss and

another for maintenance. I am going to use the well known carb

cycling approach combined with the 30% calorie reduction--10% calorie

reduction approach (also well known). Since I exercise almost daily

it is not wise to reduce my carb level (even though I am very

sensitive) below 25%--my 3 low carb days will look like this=45%

protein, 25% carbs, 30% fat--all at 30% below my maintenance caloric

level. You can estimate your maintenance caloric needs by taking your

current body weight and multiplying it by 12.5--gives you a decent

ball park. My high carb 4th day will look like this=30% protein, 45%

carbs, 25% fat--this will be at 10% below maintenance caloric level.

Note that when you raise your carbs you must reduce your fat. A

careful review of reference literature convinced me that this

approach has worked for many endomorphic people who are prone to

weight gain and are committed to working on it through a combination

of proper eating and daily exercise. When I get to a healthy body fat

percentage it should be safe to return to something more moderate for

maintenance, like the 40-30-30 Zone approach with low glycemic BTD

food choices. I've used the Zone macronutrient ratios before and

think that the idea works well for maintenance--but his calorie

recommendations are way too low so I wouldn't use them.

I don't know what you are looking at for weight loss, but I do

find that Atkins got my hopes up pretty high. The weight came off

easy at first--and quickly, but I know that I lost muscle mass. The

weight loss then stopped all together and I was realistically hoping

for 1-2 pounds of FAT loss per week (anything more than that usually

means muscle tissue is lost too).

Since you are not seeing the results that you want I think that

you would do well to seriously consider changing your strategy. I

think that you should look into how to divide up your macronutrient

ratios and that you should balance each meal according. It would be

easier to match a 20-30% carb plan with the BTD and your would have

better nutrient intake. I have also been brow beaten into realizing

that 5-6 small meals a day is much better for your metabolism and

that protein at each meal will keep your muscle tissue happy. I used

to skip meals all the time--not good. Sometimes I would even save up

my carbs for a special dinner meal--not good. I also always thought

that I was drinking enough water--but now that I drink over 1 gallon

a day I realize that I was not consuming enough to keep my metabolism

happy.

Just some things to consider. I am not a doctor and I don't claim

to be an expert--my degrees are not in nutrition. I am a good

researcher who has spent most of her time reading contradictory

theories--it can be very hard to separate the facts. I have also

noted that what are facts for some people (don't ever snack, eat lots

of carbs, eat no fat, etc.) are not necessarily facts for me. I hope

that you can make some sense out of all of this and find something

that works for you.

Good luck,

Lydia

In , " jemmijemmi " <Jem5252@a...> wrote:

> Hi. I've been trying to lose weight doing the Atkins program, but

>so many of the things that he allows conflicts with what a Type O

>should have. For awhile, I tried to do Atkins, " A la D'adamo, " but

>I felt like I was eating the same thing all the time. People said

>I'd drive myself nuts, and I have.

>

> The reason I have been hesitant to do the Eat Right Program is

> because it offers bread, grains, fruit, and fruit juices. The one

> thing I did learn is that I am definitely carbohydrate-sensitive.

>

> So now, I'm trying to rethink this. One of my friends was pro-

> Atkins, and didn't feel that the Blood Type program was as

scientific

> as Atkins, because they said it was too general in their minds,

like

> maybe bacon is bad for " some " O's, but not for me, and that I would

> be depriving myself of something that could help me lose weight,

like

> on the Atkins program, etc.

>>

> Any words of advice, encouragement would be appreciated, (no

> yelling,please)...lol I'm here to hopefully become " UN-swirled. "

> Thanks so much!

[Guest guest]

What are some green vegetables and maybe some cooking ideas for them. My

ideas are pretty limited-broccolli, romain.spinach. Do Zuchinni and

green beans count? I know I am not eating enough of the green

vegetables.

[Guest guest]

Yes they are ok to eat.

Not eating enough veggies? That is most of us.

RE: Re: All swirled up, need encouragement

What are some green vegetables and maybe some cooking ideas for them. My

ideas are pretty limited-broccolli, romain.spinach. Do Zuchinni and

green beans count? I know I am not eating enough of the green

vegetables.

[Guest guest]

> You really need to get the encyclopedia. It has all of the

food in it.

Speaking of, I pulled a list off the web from www.er4yt.org and I

keep finding errors. I bought all kinds of pinto beans because

they were listed as beneficial as an example. I don't have the

money to buy the encyclopedia right now. Is there anywhere I can

find a complete up to date list without looking up everything at

the database?

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

Atkins didn't die of a heart attack. He slipped on ice, fell and busted his head

open and never woke up. The heart attack that he had was years ago and it was

from a birth defect in his heart....which they fixed.

Coryn

Re: All swirled up, need encouragement

Jemmi,

I too have done Atkins and I did very well on it. I liked Atkins

because it is easy--meat, cheese, and veggies. Dairy presents no

noticeable problems for me--but internally I can admit that it may be

a different matter. Trying to combine it with BTD ideas definitely

limits your choices and leaves you open to getting out of

ketosis. But there are schools of thought that propose reduced carb

plans, where people lose weight without ketosis and with a modest

calorie reduction (20% reduction). I can only speak for myself, but I

stalled on Atkins after about 4 months--and being in ketosis didn't

seem to make much difference. I stalled for over 5 months and

gradually began adding in carbs and increasing my exercise. The diet

was no longer working for my body and I was becoming bitter about it.

I must admit that I was not smart--I limited my carbs (15-20 grams a

day) for way too long--I damaged my own metabolism by being too

restrictive for too long. I have since tried to do Atkins 5 more

times and have had no success with it again.

I have researched ketogenic diets and carb-cycling diets that

weight lifters use and can honestly say that I am hopeful about carb-

cycling. I am not suggesting that you do this, but the body does get

used to things (foods, exercises, habits, etc.). The body gets used

to reduced carbs and it can temporary lose the ability to use carbs

efficiently in the event that they are reintroduced. Some carbs are

necessary too because a little bit of insulin production is needed to

shuttle the amino acids from protein into muscles cells. Think about

that--you get much more out of your protein if you eat a small-modest

amount of carbs with it. Excessively low carb just doesn't seem like

a good way to keep muscle mass and it is your muscle that burns fat.

You are probably looking for a life plan--not just a quick fix. I

will tell you what my plan is, since I have been working on it for

the last 3 weeks and it might help you think of something. I plan to

take one night this week to come up with actual meals so that I can

start my custom made program in a total state of preparedness.

I have a good amount of weight to lose, even though I have been

doing aerobics 6 days a week and lifting weight 3 days a week (since

early July), so I know that I must do one thing for weight loss and

another for maintenance. I am going to use the well known carb

cycling approach combined with the 30% calorie reduction--10% calorie

reduction approach (also well known). Since I exercise almost daily

it is not wise to reduce my carb level (even though I am very

sensitive) below 25%--my 3 low carb days will look like this=45%

protein, 25% carbs, 30% fat--all at 30% below my maintenance caloric

level. You can estimate your maintenance caloric needs by taking your

current body weight and multiplying it by 12.5--gives you a decent

ball park. My high carb 4th day will look like this=30% protein, 45%

carbs, 25% fat--this will be at 10% below maintenance caloric level.

Note that when you raise your carbs you must reduce your fat. A

careful review of reference literature convinced me that this

approach has worked for many endomorphic people who are prone to

weight gain and are committed to working on it through a combination

of proper eating and daily exercise. When I get to a healthy body fat

percentage it should be safe to return to something more moderate for

maintenance, like the 40-30-30 Zone approach with low glycemic BTD

food choices. I've used the Zone macronutrient ratios before and

think that the idea works well for maintenance--but his calorie

recommendations are way too low so I wouldn't use them.

I don't know what you are looking at for weight loss, but I do

find that Atkins got my hopes up pretty high. The weight came off

easy at first--and quickly, but I know that I lost muscle mass. The

weight loss then stopped all together and I was realistically hoping

for 1-2 pounds of FAT loss per week (anything more than that usually

means muscle tissue is lost too).

Since you are not seeing the results that you want I think that

you would do well to seriously consider changing your strategy. I

think that you should look into how to divide up your macronutrient

ratios and that you should balance each meal according. It would be

easier to match a 20-30% carb plan with the BTD and your would have

better nutrient intake. I have also been brow beaten into realizing

that 5-6 small meals a day is much better for your metabolism and

that protein at each meal will keep your muscle tissue happy. I used

to skip meals all the time--not good. Sometimes I would even save up

my carbs for a special dinner meal--not good. I also always thought

that I was drinking enough water--but now that I drink over 1 gallon

a day I realize that I was not consuming enough to keep my metabolism

happy.

Just some things to consider. I am not a doctor and I don't claim

to be an expert--my degrees are not in nutrition. I am a good

researcher who has spent most of her time reading contradictory

theories--it can be very hard to separate the facts. I have also

noted that what are facts for some people (don't ever snack, eat lots

of carbs, eat no fat, etc.) are not necessarily facts for me. I hope

that you can make some sense out of all of this and find something

that works for you.

Good luck,

Lydia

In , " jemmijemmi " <Jem5252@a...> wrote:

> Hi. I've been trying to lose weight doing the Atkins program, but

>so many of the things that he allows conflicts with what a Type O

>should have. For awhile, I tried to do Atkins, " A la D'adamo, " but

>I felt like I was eating the same thing all the time. People said

>I'd drive myself nuts, and I have.

>

> The reason I have been hesitant to do the Eat Right Program is

> because it offers bread, grains, fruit, and fruit juices. The one

> thing I did learn is that I am definitely carbohydrate-sensitive.

>

> So now, I'm trying to rethink this. One of my friends was pro-

> Atkins, and didn't feel that the Blood Type program was as

scientific

> as Atkins, because they said it was too general in their minds,

like

> maybe bacon is bad for " some " O's, but not for me, and that I would

> be depriving myself of something that could help me lose weight,

like

> on the Atkins program, etc.

>>

> Any words of advice, encouragement would be appreciated, (no

> yelling,please)...lol I'm here to hopefully become " UN-swirled. "

> Thanks so much!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/24/2003 9:49:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

Hestia@... writes:

> 20% of the population and even at that it's not a beneficial.

> Still looking for a list that's accurate.

>

I don't know what you mean by this statement. The specific food lists change

all of the time because of ongoing research. The site I gave you has the

most current and up-to-date information. I usually just change my list as I

find

the food changes. If you stay basic and well within the diet, you'll have

fewer problems. Add questionable foods one at a time after you've been on the

diet for a while.

[Guest guest]

Jemmi,

I'm not sure if this chain of messages started by the group helps you-

-especially since there are tangents--but I do hope that you can come

up with a basic approach for yourself and keep the all things in mind

if you hit another wall and need to reconsider your approach.

I know that the carb cycling approach that I discussed is advance--

and it certainly isn't for people who aren't exercising daily. I do

believe that I indicated as much and do not advocate that you take on

any approach that seems way over your head. I brought it up because

the issue of macronutrient ratios and the fact that the human body

can adopt to them is something to consider. For instance, when I was

on Atkins I thought that I was getting enough calories and enough

protein--but I really wasn't, ketosis killed my appetite and my

options were very limited by only 15-20 grams of carbs. I would have

further been hindered had I eaten no dairy whatsoever--but as this

was a long time ago I was unaware of typical Type O dairy issues.

What helped me was to take a week of writing down a basic menu and

then taking another week of structured eating to compare nutrient

ratios. It is very easy to think that we are eating enough of this,

that, and the other thing--but when we really focus on it we may see

that we are not and that it can be a starting point for improvement.

I think that increasing awareness of everything that you put into

your body is KEY. A week or two of measuring things and tallying up

calories could give you a fair idea of what is right and then you

could feel comfortable just working more with portion sizes and

putting aside the actually measuring and counting. I do not want to

weigh, measure, and count everything for the rest of my life--who

does? But I think that measuring, counting, timing, and meal analysis

is a useful tool that can be dropped once you have the basics down

and know what looks right on your plate and feels good in your body.

In general, most reference resources and real live people that I have

talked to indicated that in order to see more progress or to break a

plateau the following things should be considered: 1) Eating less 2)

Manipulation of macronutrient composition 3) Improved food choices 4)

Manipulation of meal timing and frequency 5) Increased water

consumption 6) Increase in duration of aerobic exercise 7) Increase

in frequency of aerobic exercise 8) Increase intensity of aerobic

exercise 9) Change type of aerobic exercise 10) Switch to high

intensity interval training--and it is a given that a person should

be doing 3 days of weight lifting a week (Body for Life is an

excellent program). I merely list these things because it is

important to understand the major factors in the healthy body &

weight loss equation--not because I think that you should work on all

of them and completely complicate your life to the point of

frustration.

By the way--I am very glad that people cleared up the misconception

that Atkins died of a heart attack. I was going to say something, but

I'm glad that other people did.

--Lydia

> A simple way to do this is: eat 5 to 6 meals - protein (size of your

> fist), carbs - (green veggies and as much as you want), fat -

flax/olive

> oil/butter) - 1 tablespoon per meal. Carb cycling is for advanced

> " dieters " . Way too complicated for newbies. Atkins died of a heart

> attack, so be careful eating dairy and all the other avoids.

> To think that a food will not affect your system in a negative way

just

> because it is free of carbs is very foolish.

> Exercise daily with weights, & this is where you will need some

help.

> Look into Body For Life by Bill Philips

> Do drink lots of water.

>

> How much do you weigh and how much would you like to loose?

> Love

[Guest guest]

> > 20% of the population and even at that it's not a beneficial.

> > Still looking for a list that's accurate.

> >

>

> I don't know what you mean by this statement. The specific

food lists change

> all of the time because of ongoing research. The site I gave

you has the

> most current and up-to-date information. I usually just change

my list as I find

> the food changes. If you stay basic and well within the diet,

you'll have

> fewer problems. Add questionable foods one at a time after

you've been on the

> diet for a while.

Sorry, a little frustrated about the whole pinto bean thingy. I

meant that only 20% of the population are non secretors and even

though they can eat pinto beans, they aren't a beneficial.

See what I did was take that list and chop it up and made a

shopping list of the beneficials and used the avoids to go

through my current pantry - I gave and tossed a lot of it out. I

don't have the time to look up every food in the database just

before shopping just in case it may have changed. So I spent a

LOT of money (not all on pinto beans) restocking my entire pantry

and I'm wondering how much of what I bought just may be bad

because it's " changed " .

Does that make sense?

[Guest guest]

Dr. Atkins did not die of a heart attack.But we do need to watch our daury

intake.

See :

http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/04/17/obit.atkins/

S

Atkins died of a heart

>attack, so be careful eating dairy and all the other avoids.

>To think that a food will not affect your system in a negative way just

>because it is free of carbs is very foolish.

>Exercise daily with weights, & this is where you will need some help.

>Look into Body For Life by Bill Philips

>Do drink lots of water.

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In a message dated 9/24/2003 12:45:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Hestia@... writes:

> Does that make sense?

>

I did the same thing and gave all my stuff away. People thought I was crazy.

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I do eat Beet greens in the spring and I grow them. I get them whle they

are tender. I can only get the ones with full sized beets the rest of

the time. The greens neer look or taste good.

Is Escarole another lettuce?

[Guest guest]

I use my steamer for the beans, broccoli and spinach. I've never steamed

sweet potatoes or onion. I'll have to try this combo.

[Guest guest]

Escarole is similar to a type of lettuce. I've seen it but the ones Wal-Mart

has occasionally haven't been in their prime. I agree about the beet greens.

The ones from the mature beets are tough. I have to use garlic, onion, sea

salt, and cook down the chicken juice I cook them in, to flavor them. They

are still a little tough. This next year I'm hoping to plant them over about

a month or more, so I can have that long with the fresh beets. Then I'm

thinking of canning what I can't eat then, or making juice and freezing it,

then sealing it in food saver bags.

Re: Re: All swirled up, need encouragement

> I do eat Beet greens in the spring and I grow them. I get them whle they

> are tender. I can only get the ones with full sized beets the rest of

> the time. The greens neer look or taste good.

> Is Escarole another lettuce?

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I saw no reason to keep it around and tempt myself. And no

reason to just throw it out and waste it. I had some B and A

friends at work, so there it went. But I can't keep buying stuff

that's an Avoid because the list (not this egroup) said it was a

beneficial. I just can't afford it.

----- Original Message -----

> > Does that make sense?

> >

>

> I did the same thing and gave all my stuff away. People

thought I was crazy.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Belinda,

Try the BLOOD TYPE O

FOOD, EVERAGE and SUPPLEMENT

LISTS

from

EAT RIGHT FOR YOUR TYPE BOOOK

It is a new booklet put out by Dr. D'Adamo and only costs $5.95 and lists only

what is beneficial, neutral and avoids for Os. I don't know if carries

it but if not you can get it from www.dadamo.com.

Hugs, Michele

----- Original Message -----

From: Belinda Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:43 PM

So I spent a

LOT of money (not all on pinto beans) restocking my entire pantry

and I'm wondering how much of what I bought just may be bad

because it's " changed " .

[Guest guest]

does carry it

Re: Re: All swirled up, need encouragement

Dear Belinda,

Try the BLOOD TYPE O

FOOD, EVERAGE and SUPPLEMENT

LISTS

from

EAT RIGHT FOR YOUR TYPE BOOOK

It is a new booklet put out by Dr. D'Adamo and only costs $5.95 and

lists only what is beneficial, neutral and avoids for Os. I don't know

if carries it but if not you can get it from www.dadamo.com.

Hugs, Michele

----- Original Message -----

From: Belinda Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:43 PM

So I spent a

LOT of money (not all on pinto beans) restocking my entire pantry

and I'm wondering how much of what I bought just may be bad

because it's " changed " .

[Guest guest]

Is it $5.95? And please send me one. Be nice for

shopping days. I have most stuff memorized by now,

but once in awhile I have a question, and don't buy

something because I'm not sure. How much is your O

tea?

--- Dekany <info@...> wrote:

> does carry it

>

> Re: Re: All swirled up, need

> encouragement

>

> Dear Belinda,

> Try the BLOOD TYPE O

> FOOD, EVERAGE and SUPPLEMENT

> LISTS

> from

> EAT RIGHT FOR YOUR TYPE BOOOK

>

> It is a new booklet put out by Dr. D'Adamo and only

> costs $5.95 and

> lists only what is beneficial, neutral and avoids

> for Os. I don't know

> if carries it but if not you can get it from

> www.dadamo.com.

> Hugs, Michele

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Belinda Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003

> 12:43 PM

> So I spent a

> LOT of money (not all on pinto beans) restocking

> my entire pantry

> and I'm wondering how much of what I bought just

> may be bad

> because it's " changed " .

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

$5.50 - tea is $8.95

Re: Re: All swirled up, need

> encouragement

>

> Dear Belinda,

> Try the BLOOD TYPE O

> FOOD, EVERAGE and SUPPLEMENT

> LISTS

> from

> EAT RIGHT FOR YOUR TYPE BOOOK

>

> It is a new booklet put out by Dr. D'Adamo and only

> costs $5.95 and

> lists only what is beneficial, neutral and avoids

> for Os. I don't know

> if carries it but if not you can get it from

> www.dadamo.com.

> Hugs, Michele

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Belinda Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003

> 12:43 PM

> So I spent a

> LOT of money (not all on pinto beans) restocking

> my entire pantry

> and I'm wondering how much of what I bought just

> may be bad

> because it's " changed " .

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would like some flavored teas. I like raspberry. I

have a lot of green tea to use up

ps. So I owe you $14.45 if you have raspberry tea.

Let me know. Thanks.

--- Dekany <info@...> wrote:

> $5.50 - tea is $8.95

>

> Re: Re: All swirled up, need

> > encouragement

> >

> > Dear Belinda,

> > Try the BLOOD TYPE O

> > FOOD, EVERAGE and SUPPLEMENT

> > LISTS

> > from

> > EAT RIGHT FOR YOUR TYPE BOOOK

> >

> > It is a new booklet put out by Dr. D'Adamo and

> only

> > costs $5.95 and

> > lists only what is beneficial, neutral and avoids

> > for Os. I don't know

> > if carries it but if not you can get it

> from

> > www.dadamo.com.

> > Hugs, Michele

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: Belinda Sent: Wednesday, September 24,

> 2003

> > 12:43 PM

> > So I spent a

> > LOT of money (not all on pinto beans) restocking

> > my entire pantry

> > and I'm wondering how much of what I bought just

> > may be bad

> > because it's " changed " .

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks, but I'm looking for something in electronic format. I

put together shopping lists from the list that way. I can pull

up all the avoids at once or all the bennies at once depending on

how I slice and dice it.

Re: Re: All swirled up, need encouragement

> Dear Belinda,

> Try the BLOOD TYPE O

> FOOD, EVERAGE and SUPPLEMENT

> LISTS

> from

> EAT RIGHT FOR YOUR TYPE BOOOK

>

> It is a new booklet put out by Dr. D'Adamo and only costs $5.95

and lists only what is beneficial, neutral and avoids for Os. I

don't know if carries it but if not you can get it from

www.dadamo.com.

> Hugs, Michele

[Guest guest]

Belinda - LR is copyrighted so we can't have such thing available. I

came up with a nice secretor/non secretor list but couldn't distribute

after all. You can use my ER list and modify it. Go here and scroll down

to " " food lists " " . http://www.foodforyourblood.com

<http://www.foodforyourblood.com/>

Love

Re: Re: All swirled up, need encouragement

Thanks, but I'm looking for something in electronic format. I

put together shopping lists from the list that way. I can pull

up all the avoids at once or all the bennies at once depending on

how I slice and dice it.

Re: Re: All swirled up, need encouragement

> Dear Belinda,

> Try the BLOOD TYPE O

> FOOD, EVERAGE and SUPPLEMENT

> LISTS

> from

> EAT RIGHT FOR YOUR TYPE BOOOK

>

> It is a new booklet put out by Dr. D'Adamo and only costs $5.95

and lists only what is beneficial, neutral and avoids for Os. I

don't know if carries it but if not you can get it from

www.dadamo.com.

> Hugs, Michele