Guest guest Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 Bob, if you want to read a good book about stress and disease look in your local library for a book called " When the Body says No " by Dr. Gabor Mate. One thing that Mate mentions is that Neurologists use niceness to help diagnose ALS - Lou Gherig's disease. People who are not nice, complain about things and get angry are diagnosed as not having ALS because they are flushing out the extreme stress needed by the disease to flourish. If the person is extremely polite, nice, compliant and never gets angry then the Doctor continues to monitor and test for ALS. Mate notes that he has seen on some patients' charts, " this patient loses their temper and gets angry, I have therefore ruled out ALS. " and " the patient is not nice enough to have ALS. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 In a message dated 3/2/2004 7:27:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, supermattvan@... writes: the patient is not nice enough to have ALS. " Wow, and now that you mention it... the two people I have known who have had ALS are/were truly really nice people. Interesting. Sort of like when Adrienne was 16, it was entered in her charts... patient meets all criteria for diagnosis of fibromyalgia, but age being a factor, rules the fibromyalgia diagnosis as incorrect. Will reccoment biofeedback for pain complaints. The doctor believed because ADrienne wasn't over 20, she couldn't have FMS. Ugh. Well she has the diagnosis now. Doctor she saw a couple weeks ago believes her pain is mostly FMS related and not currently arthritis related. She is getting some scans and tests done to see what her arthritis is currently doing or not doing. K Adrienne's Mom Adrienne age 20, Full time UW student working hard to get through her Chemistry courses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 Hi Kaye, it's a good book. Another part I found interesting was about " the placebo effect. " I always thought that Doctors referred to it in a disparaging way. But the book says no. Doctors view it positively and use it quite often. It says that Doctors use the placebo effect when their patients will not give their body time to heal itself and keep going to work, school or sometimes not stop voluntary activities. What the Doctors really want you to do is stay home and rest, but knowing the patient won't do so, they prescribe a drug that won't harm or heal you and say that the drug won't be able to do it's job unless you get some rest. For some reason prescribing the drug makes the patient take the situation seriously and they stay home and rest when they would not have rested if just told that rest alone will likely cure the disease. btw, Dr. Gabor Mate is a world authority on ADD and besides being a practicing physician, he is a practicing psychiatrist as well. But his books are written in layman's language. M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 In a message dated 3/2/2004 10:59:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, supermattvan@... writes: For some reason prescribing the drug makes the patient take the situation seriously and they stay home and rest when they would not have rested if just told that rest alone will likely cure the disease I want one of those prescribed for Adrienne! K Adrienne's Mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2004 Report Share Posted March 2, 2004 In a message dated 3/2/2004 3:34:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, Firstwifek@... writes: > I want one of those prescribed for Adrienne! Hi Kaye, in past posts I think you have shown that Adrienne is already learning to set boundries, even when she was a teenager and I remember she had that problem with the dance company, she went and found another company who would accept her need for rest. I guess we all need to learn how to do that. Learning to draw boundries should be a course they teach in school, and it should be compulsory so that you can not graduate and go out into the world until you have successfully learned how to draw them. Learning to draw boundries is far more important than English, Languages, Math, Physics etc. I am 51 and I still have learned how to draw boundries completely, although I am improving, a few years ago I would not have drawn any at all. The second course they should make compulsory is how to be happy within yourself, without having to depend on others or needing to have others depend on you, while at the same time learning to ask to have your needs met and learning to meet the needs of others without becoming a doormat or making others into a doormat. Why is it they never teach the real important stuff in school? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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