Guest guest Posted March 18, 2003 Report Share Posted March 18, 2003 <<According to my chiropractor if I can stay away from carbs for a couple weeks and endure the pain, I can reverse the cravings, etc. Thank, a>> It's true, the longer you stay away from them, the easier it becomes. If you're having a craving for carbs, eat more protein. There are also some supplements that are supposed to reduce carb cravings such as 5-HTP, but I haven't had experience with them. Hopefully someone else can chime in... Good luck, Dianne in L.A. O+ non-secretor who is sugarless and grainless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2003 Report Share Posted March 18, 2003 I was a carb addict too. I seriously reduce my carbs a little over a yr. ago. At first, I went cold turkey. I allow myself a slice of toast, or a whole grain cookie, or a whole grain graham cracker at the end of the day as a reward for going all day w/o grains. It was very hard, but I was really sick and needed to start feeling better right away. It took me a lot longer than a few weeks to adjust. All I did for awhile was think about how long until I could have that fix at the end of the day. Even now I still battle it, and now and again, I lose. I know that this is not very encouraging but I am doing it. I find it very difficult to completely live w/o the grains. And I tell, a bowl of rice is not the same as a muffin or some toast. There are some herbs and supplement that help to curb your cravings. When I take them, I don't always remember, I do notice a difference. If you are interested, I will tell you what as work will for me. MC Carbohydrate Addict I'm a Type O, carb addict. It seems not matter how much I eat --- if I don't have carbs with my meal I am left unsatisfied and with a headache (I'll also get a headache an hour or so after eating pasta or such). I'd really like to get away from carbs, but am nervous to get started as I know I'll be a miserable person to be around for a week or two. If anyone else has conquered a carb addiction --- I'd love to hear from you. Tactics, what you ate, how many carbs/day you allowed. I don't know that it's possible to not eat some carbs, but don't know what's reasonable. According to my chiropractor if I can stay away from carbs for a couple weeks and endure the pain, I can reverse the cravings, etc. Thank, a _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 In a message dated 3/18/2003 4:32:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, ericad100@... writes: << If anyone else has conquered a carb addiction --- I'd love to hear from you. >> It's like smoking. You can quit now or later but you're going to have to go through the withdrawl sometime because a carb diet will eventually make you sick whether it's something simple like reflux or serious like cancer. It took me about 2 weeks but I went onto the ER4YT diet cold turkey (made the Atkin's diet much easier later). You'll get the CRAVINGS. Just keep eating protein and fat. It'll go away. Have lots of protein/fat snacks around. Get rid of all of your carb sources. Go through your cupboards and give away all of your avoids. Don't leave them around or you'll eat them. Don't cheat until you're over the cravings or you'll just prolong the pain and not get healthy. This method is not for the feint-hearted. Others will tell you to do wean off avoids slowly but to me it just prolongs the cravings and many people just get fed up and give up. You gotta want to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 You are correct! Just give up the carbs and never look back. If you cheat, you will never get over the cravings. Maddviking@... wrote:In a message dated 3/18/2003 4:32:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, ericad100@... writes: << If anyone else has conquered a carb addiction --- I'd love to hear from you. >> It's like smoking. You can quit now or later but you're going to have to go through the withdrawl sometime because a carb diet will eventually make you sick whether it's something simple like reflux or serious like cancer. It took me about 2 weeks but I went onto the ER4YT diet cold turkey (made the Atkin's diet much easier later). You'll get the CRAVINGS. Just keep eating protein and fat. It'll go away. Have lots of protein/fat snacks around. Get rid of all of your carb sources. Go through your cupboards and give away all of your avoids. Don't leave them around or you'll eat them. Don't cheat until you're over the cravings or you'll just prolong the pain and not get healthy. This method is not for the feint-hearted. Others will tell you to do wean off avoids slowly but to me it just prolongs the cravings and many people just get fed up and give up. You gotta want to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 This would be good to do if you live alone. However, some of us do have family and some of them are As. And what do As eat, carbs. This can make the battle even harder. If it is possible to rid your house of all avoids, than go for it. In our house I have 6 members and only 2 are 0s and the other is only 5....... My husband does not buy in to this whole thing so there are some things still here tempting me. Luckily, he does not sit and eat them in front of me and I have fairly decent will power. Do the best you can and avoid those carbs as much as you can. The less carbs you have, the better. MC Re: Carbohydrate Addict In a message dated 3/18/2003 4:32:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, ericad100@... writes: << If anyone else has conquered a carb addiction --- I'd love to hear from you. >> It's like smoking. You can quit now or later but you're going to have to go through the withdrawl sometime because a carb diet will eventually make you sick whether it's something simple like reflux or serious like cancer. It took me about 2 weeks but I went onto the ER4YT diet cold turkey (made the Atkin's diet much easier later). You'll get the CRAVINGS. Just keep eating protein and fat. It'll go away. Have lots of protein/fat snacks around. Get rid of all of your carb sources. Go through your cupboards and give away all of your avoids. Don't leave them around or you'll eat them. Don't cheat until you're over the cravings or you'll just prolong the pain and not get healthy. This method is not for the feint-hearted. Others will tell you to do wean off avoids slowly but to me it just prolongs the cravings and many people just get fed up and give up. You gotta want to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 <<However, some of us do have family and some of them are As. And what do As eat, carbs. This can make the battle even harder.>> One more piece of advice from a " sober carb addict " ... I find that almost anything can be managed when there is a reasonable mental timeline. Promise yourself that for two weeks, just two weeks you will not eat any grains or sugars. If you're like me, after those two weeks you'll feel so much better that you will gain the motivation to continue on. Dianne in L.A. O+ non-secretor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 I´m wondering how healthy it is to completely cut on carbs? I mean, what about fruit? What is an acceptable limit?.. also, as I do sports basically everyday, I believe I need some source of energy from carbs, don´t you agree? In this case, should I have carbs? Thanx > <<However, some of us do have family and some of them are As. And what do > As eat, carbs. This can make the battle even harder.>> > > One more piece of advice from a " sober carb addict " ... > > I find that almost anything can be managed when there is a reasonable mental > timeline. Promise yourself that for two weeks, just two weeks you will not > eat any grains or sugars. If you're like me, after those two weeks you'll > feel so much better that you will gain the motivation to continue on. > > Dianne in L.A. > O+ non-secretor > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 very true. The longer I stay off the grains the easy it is. However, make bread, muffins and cookies for the kiddies can be torture. This is usually when I have just a taste. I do mean just one cookie, a slice of bread, or one muffin. All of these are made with netrual grains and usually packed with nuts/seeds. Especially cookies and muffins. MC RE: Carbohydrate Addict <<However, some of us do have family and some of them are As. And what do As eat, carbs. This can make the battle even harder.>> One more piece of advice from a " sober carb addict " ... I find that almost anything can be managed when there is a reasonable mental timeline. Promise yourself that for two weeks, just two weeks you will not eat any grains or sugars. If you're like me, after those two weeks you'll feel so much better that you will gain the motivation to continue on. Dianne in L.A. O+ non-secretor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2003 Report Share Posted March 19, 2003 excellent advice!!! But we do need to be clear about Vegtables and Fruit being carbs as well as grains and refined foods. So we O are not cutting out carbs just staying away from grains and refined foods. Jane Carbohydrate Addict Never mind Addict, I was a Carbohydrate Junkie my whole life! I tried the ER diet starting in late 1998, and have never looked back. Here are a few tips. 1. You will have to decide if you are going to go " cold turkey " or compromise. I found when I went cold turkey, that I actually had fainting spells and hallucinations. I HAD to have some carbo every day. So, after a few weeks of not " getting over " the carb withdrawal, I had to compromise. Hey, I had to drive, and I had to work for a living, ok? So, I decided to have some carb with lunch every day. I was fine at breakfast and dinner with just protein. At lunch, I would have some compliant carbs, like fruit, carrots, ezekial bread, a banana. Sometimes I would just have a damn cookie. The bottom line is that find what you CAN do. 2. Over time, I did eliminate my carbs to nearly zero. I not only weaned myself off of them, and let my body learn to use the protein and green veggie nutrients. Also, the diet acted as a behavior modification. The more protein and green veg I ate, and the less carbs I ate, the better I felt. I lost 25 lbs., gained an energy and feeling of well-being I had never experienced, and my manic mood swings went away. My chronically bad skin cleared up and started to glow, and my frizzy dull broken hair became sleek and glossy. Then, when I ate carbs, I would notice the old feelings of lethargy, bloating and depression that resulted. Also, I would notice that I broke out, couldn't sleep, and my mind was just not as sharp. Now, I rarely even crave a carb, because all I can think about is how icky I'll feel if I eat it. 3. Every once in awhile, I still crave a cookie or some ice cream, so I just have it. The key here is consistency, and your overall compliance. For instance, if you say, oh forget it, and have " Avoid " carbs whenever you think of it, then you will not get results. However, if you consistently plan your meals, shop for Highly Beneficials and Neutrals, prepare compliant meals, and then occasionally, like once or twice per week have a treat, it's fine. You may have to start with a treat once per day, but if you do that, I think you will quickly cease to see the treats as " treats " . Like me, I think you will start to recognize them as toxins that wreck your otherwise maximum state of health and being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2003 Report Share Posted March 21, 2003 Life is yucky without fresh fruit I did " Fit for Life " when I started gaining weight after weaning my son (1986). What I continued is " food combining " , eventhough they are pro-vegetarians, was having ONLY fruit in the morning. Then eating what I want during the rest of day. It kept my weight in check. I am 5'1-3/4 " tall, 110 lbs. and 26 " waist. Believe me, inches count more than the pounds. I love getting into my dresses. This kept my " sugar craving " desserts down, esp. during late nights. p.s. I have hard-boiled eggs & seasalt on hand and carb-compliant stuff like Ryvita + Almond nutbutter also. 'Cause I use to hit that potato chips at night. Now, I have included at least one fresh veg....red pepper, broccoli since I forget to do this on a daily basis. You can come up your own highly beneficial when salad-makings are not around. I came up with this daily goal only 'cause nobody would eat my romaine salad, and I felt guilty. Hate feeling that way, and forcing myself to finish it. good health & peace to the USA, Gaye > n3wskin <miguel_tereno@n...> wrote:I´m wondering how healthy it is to completely cut on carbs? I mean, > what about fruit? What is an acceptable limit?.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2003 Report Share Posted March 21, 2003 I WOULD " SECOND THAT " , Gaye be clear about Vegtables and Fruit > So we O are not cutting out > carbs just staying away from grains and refined foods. > Jane > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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