Guest guest Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 In a message dated 2/20/2003 9:56:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, ironwood55@... writes: << I am beginning to suspect that I may have trouble with some and/or all of the BTD O secretor neutral grains. I would be interested in other's comments that have come to the same conclusion. >> Are you sure you're a secretor? I had the same problem (especially spelt) and that led me to the test where I found out I'm a non-secretor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 In a message dated 2/20/2003 9:56:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, ironwood55@... writes: << I had some whole spelt spaghetti with dinner. I noticed the dinner set heavily on my stomach. >> The spelt spaghetti noodles and macaroni noodles really did me in. Made me really sick. You still sound like a non-secretor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 I am beginning to suspect that I may have trouble with some and/or all of the BTD O secretor neutral grains. I would be interested in other's comments that have come to the same conclusion. Are there particular grains that seem to be more problematic then others? What symptoms do you experience? Does the problem go away after a period of time? Etc? Let me give some background. I am an O- secretor. In the past I suffered from long-term chronic sinusitis and went through a variety of treatments over the years. I started the BTD a year ago and was very hopeful that the diet would help solve my sinus problem, which is my biggest problem. My sinuses have improved some, but they are still not normal. I still frequently have congestion trouble and thick mucus. Heidi has said several times in her column that consumption of any amount of grains can cause some Os sinus trouble. The past few months I have tried to cut back on grains and usually do well at that when I am not taking care of my 2 sons every other week. However, unfortunately when my sons are with me the grains seem to creep back into the diet more often. I know I need to work on that. For Example, 2 nights ago I had 2 pieces of Ezekiel bread, yesterday morning I had 1 piece of spelt bread, and last night I had some whole spelt spaghetti with dinner. I noticed the dinner set heavily on my stomach. The day before my sinuses were quite good, but yesterday I woke up somewhat congested and was that way all day and last night after the spaghetti dinner I was really congested and therefore slept very poorly. Therefore, I suspicion that grains may be my problem. Thanks, Don St. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 Does even sprouted wheat cause you trouble? Thanks, Don > > I am beginning to suspect that I may have trouble > > with some and/or > > all of the BTD O secretor neutral grains. > > Don - > Yes it is possible. Although the diet account for > lectins it does not account for food allergies. So > while a food is classed as Bene or Neutral for the > group as an individual you need to weigh all factors > including allergies. It is possible that you have a > wheat allergy. And Spelt and Ez bread are made from > wheat (spelt is a discount cousin to wheat). Try to > find gluten free sources of bread/pasta. Rice noodles > by Tinkyada are great - I can't hardly tell the > difference with the sauce on them (and I have a high > taste palate). As for bread either do without or get > a gluten free bread mix/recipe. > > The best way to really know is to do the food > elimination - that means going two full weeks without > wheat and wheat derivitives, then loading up and look > for reactions... but my guess is it is the wheat (not > just grains in general). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 Hi Don, Yes even the sprouted Ezekiel Bread causes me problems--mine is inflamation unlike your sinus. But it is still, I believe, an allergy to wheat. Even a little spelt will cause major problems the next day. Best wishes. " Don <ironwood55@...> " <ironwood55@...> wrote:Does even sprouted wheat cause you trouble? Thanks, Don > > I am beginning to suspect that I may have trouble > > with some and/or > > all of the BTD O secretor neutral grains. > > Don - > Yes it is possible. Although the diet account for > lectins it does not account for food allergies. So > while a food is classed as Bene or Neutral for the > group as an individual you need to weigh all factors > including allergies. It is possible that you have a > wheat allergy. And Spelt and Ez bread are made from > wheat (spelt is a discount cousin to wheat). Try to > find gluten free sources of bread/pasta. Rice noodles > by Tinkyada are great - I can't hardly tell the > difference with the sauce on them (and I have a high > taste palate). As for bread either do without or get > a gluten free bread mix/recipe. > > The best way to really know is to do the food > elimination - that means going two full weeks without > wheat and wheat derivitives, then loading up and look > for reactions... but my guess is it is the wheat (not > just grains in general). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 The results from my secretor test said I was a secretor. I also tested my 2 sons. We are all O- Secretors. I asked if there is a possibility for a false negative or false positive result and what the error rate is, but I haven't gotten an answer yet. Don > In a message dated 2/20/2003 9:56:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, > ironwood55@y... writes: > > << I am beginning to suspect that I may have trouble with some and/or > all of the BTD O secretor neutral grains. I would be interested in > other's comments that have come to the same conclusion. >> > Are you sure you're a secretor? I had the same problem (especially spelt) > and that led me to the test where I found out I'm a non-secretor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 I guess you could say I get inflamation too. However, my inflammation appears to be isolated to my sinuses. Don > > > I am beginning to suspect that I may have trouble > > > with some and/or > > > all of the BTD O secretor neutral grains. > > > > Don - > > Yes it is possible. Although the diet account for > > lectins it does not account for food allergies. So > > while a food is classed as Bene or Neutral for the > > group as an individual you need to weigh all factors > > including allergies. It is possible that you have a > > wheat allergy. And Spelt and Ez bread are made from > > wheat (spelt is a discount cousin to wheat). Try to > > find gluten free sources of bread/pasta. Rice noodles > > by Tinkyada are great - I can't hardly tell the > > difference with the sauce on them (and I have a high > > taste palate). As for bread either do without or get > > a gluten free bread mix/recipe. > > > > The best way to really know is to do the food > > elimination - that means going two full weeks without > > wheat and wheat derivitives, then loading up and look > > for reactions... but my guess is it is the wheat (not > > just grains in general). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 I have ordered the secretor test. I am O-. I really hope I am a secretor--would prefer wheat allergies to being on the O nonsecretor diet. lol " Don <ironwood55@...> " <ironwood55@...> wrote:I guess you could say I get inflamation too. However, my inflammation appears to be isolated to my sinuses. Don > > > I am beginning to suspect that I may have trouble > > > with some and/or > > > all of the BTD O secretor neutral grains. > > > > Don - > > Yes it is possible. Although the diet account for > > lectins it does not account for food allergies. So > > while a food is classed as Bene or Neutral for the > > group as an individual you need to weigh all factors > > including allergies. It is possible that you have a > > wheat allergy. And Spelt and Ez bread are made from > > wheat (spelt is a discount cousin to wheat). Try to > > find gluten free sources of bread/pasta. Rice noodles > > by Tinkyada are great - I can't hardly tell the > > difference with the sauce on them (and I have a high > > taste palate). As for bread either do without or get > > a gluten free bread mix/recipe. > > > > The best way to really know is to do the food > > elimination - that means going two full weeks without > > wheat and wheat derivitives, then loading up and look > > for reactions... but my guess is it is the wheat (not > > just grains in general). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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