Re: Diabetes book/losing weight/sample menu

July 28, 2004

The oatmeal stands out to me first off. Maybe it's the non-secretor in me,

but I can't lose an ounce with it. Spelt may also be a problem. If you're

a secretor, cream of buckwheat is a tasty and satisfying alternative, but

cutting back on any grains goes a long way. I'm not sure of the status

changes in the diabetes book, so double check the buckwheat. I'd probably

add a little more beef in place of some chicken or shrimp, as beef helps

more with weight loss. All types of seaweed help, too. Overall it looks

pretty good though...some good stuff there.

Diabetes book/losing weight/sample menu

> The diabetes book is also for loosing weight.

I've been on the diet as specified in the diabetes book and haven't lost a

whole lot of weight.

So let me try this again. Here are some typical days of what I eat.

Could

you please tell me what I'm doing wrong?

B: 2 eggs, rice cereal w/soy milk, blueberries

L: chicken, salad, pineapple

D: steak, green beans, cherries

B: steak, oatmeal, blueberries

L: scallops, swiss chard/mushrooms, banana

D: chicken, broccoli, plums

B: 2 eggs, sprouted bread, pineapple

L: chicken, salad, peach

D: fish, swiss chard/mushrooms, cherries

B: chicken, spelt cereal w/soy milk, pineapple

L: shrimp, salad, cherries

D: lamb, carrots, plums

B: chicken, sweet potato, pineapple

L: chicken, salad, pineapple

D: hamburger, salad, cherries

B: 2 eggs, swiss chard/mushrooms, plums

L: chicken, salad, plums

D: salmon, peas, salad, cherries

B: almond butter, sprouted bread, strawberries

L: shrimp, salad, cherries

D: ground beef, broccoli, tomato sauce, pineapple

That's a typical week. Portions are 4 oz for protein, 1 cup for

vegetables,

6 oz for fruit. Some days I have an afternoon snack of 1/2 oz nuts and a

piece of fruit.

I'd appreciate any help you could give me.

Thanks, Carolyn

July 28, 2004

Here are a few things to think about.

Did you have the hamburger with a bun? If so, you had grains 6 out of 7

days. Dr. D'Adamo specifically recommends type Os avoid oatmeal if trying

to lose weight. Try cutting back on the grains.

It looks like you have at best one beneficial animal protein serving per

day. Most of the beneficial animal protein items boost your metabolism. I

suggest you try 2 beneficial animal protein serving per day and cut back on

the chicken and other neutral items. In general, more protein should boost

your metabolism.

Do you have olive oil or something else with your vegetables? What about

your salad dressing? Good oil is important.

Is your thyroid function OK?

Are you exercising?

Good luck,

Don

Diabetes book/losing weight/sample menu

> The diabetes book is also for loosing weight.

I've been on the diet as specified in the diabetes book and haven't lost a

whole lot of weight.

So let me try this again. Here are some typical days of what I eat.

Could

you please tell me what I'm doing wrong?

B: 2 eggs, rice cereal w/soy milk, blueberries

L: chicken, salad, pineapple

D: steak, green beans, cherries

B: steak, oatmeal, blueberries

L: scallops, swiss chard/mushrooms, banana

D: chicken, broccoli, plums

B: 2 eggs, sprouted bread, pineapple

L: chicken, salad, peach

D: fish, swiss chard/mushrooms, cherries

B: chicken, spelt cereal w/soy milk, pineapple

L: shrimp, salad, cherries

D: lamb, carrots, plums

B: chicken, sweet potato, pineapple

L: chicken, salad, pineapple

D: hamburger, salad, cherries

B: 2 eggs, swiss chard/mushrooms, plums

L: chicken, salad, plums

D: salmon, peas, salad, cherries

B: almond butter, sprouted bread, strawberries

L: shrimp, salad, cherries

D: ground beef, broccoli, tomato sauce, pineapple

That's a typical week. Portions are 4 oz for protein, 1 cup for

vegetables,

6 oz for fruit. Some days I have an afternoon snack of 1/2 oz nuts and a

piece of fruit.

I'd appreciate any help you could give me.

Thanks, Carolyn

July 28, 2004

> Did you have the hamburger with a bun?

No, no bun.

>If so, you had grains 6 out of 7 days.

I had read on this list, someone had recommended one grain per day. The

diabetes book says 1-6 per week. That's why I had it planned that way. Has

that recommendation changed?

> Dr. D'Adamo specifically recommends type Os avoid oatmeal if trying

> to lose weight. Try cutting back on the grains.

I used to eat a lot of oatmeal, and cut it back to once a week. I will

certainly reduce it further.

> It looks like you have at best one beneficial animal protein serving per

> day. Most of the beneficial animal protein items boost your metabolism.

I

> suggest you try 2 beneficial animal protein serving per day and cut back

on

> the chicken and other neutral items. In general, more protein should

boost

> your metabolism.

I guess I'm confused by this. At the very most, if I consider the

recommendations of the diabetes book, I should have up to 9 servings of

meat/chicken, 5 servings of fish, and 6 servings of eggs per week. If I

take that as 1 egg per meal, that's still only 20 meals (and if I do 3 meals

a day, I should have 21 per week). How do most of you apportion the meals?

> Do you have olive oil or something else with your vegetables? What about

> your salad dressing? Good oil is important.

I use butter on my vegetables, and red wine vinaigrette on my salads.

> Is your thyroid function OK?

Yes.

> Are you exercising?

Well, that's another story. I used to, but lately I haven't been. I

know that's something to work on.

Thanks! Carolyn

July 28, 2004

Thanks, . Buckwheat and oatmeal are equal in the diabetes book, both

are neutral/infrequent. I don't often have spelt cereal -- lately I've been

having Barbara's rice puffins, but I bought a box of spelt flakes just to

try it, and probably won't buy it again.

One more question. The salads I mentioned, I usually throw a few walnuts

and dried cherries in there (the dried cherries are " Just Cherries, " no

additives). Is this okay?

Thanks, Carolyn

> The oatmeal stands out to me first off. Maybe it's the non-secretor in

me,

> but I can't lose an ounce with it. Spelt may also be a problem. If

you're

> a secretor, cream of buckwheat is a tasty and satisfying alternative, but

> cutting back on any grains goes a long way. I'm not sure of the status

> changes in the diabetes book, so double check the buckwheat. I'd probably

> add a little more beef in place of some chicken or shrimp, as beef helps

> more with weight loss. All types of seaweed help, too. Overall it looks

> pretty good though...some good stuff there.

July 28, 2004

Re: Diabetes book/losing weight/sample menu

> Did you have the hamburger with a bun?

No, no bun.

>If so, you had grains 6 out of 7 days.

I had read on this list, someone had recommended one grain per day. The

diabetes book says 1-6 per week. That's why I had it planned that way.

Has

that recommendation changed?

Notice it says 1-6 servings per week. I would shoot for the lower end of

the range. Dr. D'Adamo also says that type Os don't need the grains.

> Dr. D'Adamo specifically recommends type Os avoid oatmeal if trying

> to lose weight. Try cutting back on the grains.

I used to eat a lot of oatmeal, and cut it back to once a week. I will

certainly reduce it further.

It is worth a try.

> It looks like you have at best one beneficial animal protein serving per

> day. Most of the beneficial animal protein items boost your metabolism.

I

> suggest you try 2 beneficial animal protein serving per day and cut back

on

> the chicken and other neutral items. In general, more protein should

boost

> your metabolism.

I guess I'm confused by this. At the very most, if I consider the

recommendations of the diabetes book, I should have up to 9 servings of

meat/chicken, 5 servings of fish, and 6 servings of eggs per week. If I

take that as 1 egg per meal, that's still only 20 meals (and if I do 3

meals

a day, I should have 21 per week). How do most of you apportion the

meals?

I noticed that too when I read the book. I eat more protein then his

charts recommend. I eat animal flesh protein 3 meals a day plus sometimes

for snacks.

> Do you have olive oil or something else with your vegetables? What

about

> your salad dressing? Good oil is important.

I use butter on my vegetables, and red wine vinaigrette on my salads.

Flaxseed, olive, or ghee would be better.

> Is your thyroid function OK?

Yes.

> Are you exercising?

Well, that's another story. I used to, but lately I haven't been. I

know that's something to work on.

It probably will make you feel better too.

Thanks! Carolyn

Don

July 28, 2004

In the diabetes book buckwheat is downgraded for O secretors to neutral

infrequently, which I think meant no more then once or twice a month.

Don

RE: Diabetes book/losing weight/sample menu

The oatmeal stands out to me first off. Maybe it's the non-secretor in

me,

but I can't lose an ounce with it. Spelt may also be a problem. If

you're

a secretor, cream of buckwheat is a tasty and satisfying alternative, but

cutting back on any grains goes a long way. I'm not sure of the status

changes in the diabetes book, so double check the buckwheat.

July 28, 2004

> >If so, you had grains 6 out of 7 days.

>

> I had read on this list, someone had recommended one grain per

day. The

> diabetes book says 1-6 per week. That's why I had it planned

that way. Has

> that recommendation changed?

Take the low end for weight reduction. The high end would be

maintenance and if you weren't suffering from any problems. Some

of the grains (as is the soy milk) you had were neutral,

infrequent. He suggests that they be had only once or twice a

month.

> > the chicken and other neutral items. In general, more

protein should

> boost

> > your metabolism.

>

> I guess I'm confused by this. At the very most, if I consider

the

> recommendations of the diabetes book, I should have up to 9

servings of

> meat/chicken, 5 servings of fish, and 6 servings of eggs per

week. If I

> take that as 1 egg per meal, that's still only 20 meals (and if

I do 3 meals

> a day, I should have 21 per week). How do most of you

apportion the meals?

Serving sizes are for the average weighted person. If you weigh

more, you need more calories (preferably from protein) to lose -

or else your body metabolism goes into starvation mode and slows

way down. Isn't it 1 gram of protein for each pound you weigh to

lose?

July 28, 2004

Thank you, Don!

> Notice it says 1-6 servings per week. I would shoot for the lower end

of

> the range. Dr. D'Adamo also says that type Os don't need the grains.

Will do. Am doing even as I answer.

> Flaxseed, olive, or ghee would be better.

I use flaxseed oil occasionally -- I'll increase that. I use olive oil to

cook. Where can I find ghee? Is it readily available in stores, or do I

need to go to a health food store for it?

I sure do appreciate all the help.

Carolyn

July 28, 2004

You might be able to buy ghee at your health food store. It isn't very hard

to make your own from butter. I use ghee on everything that I can think of

that I normally would use butter on.

Don

Re: Diabetes book/losing weight/sample menu

Where can I find ghee? Is it readily available in stores, or do I

need to go to a health food store for it?

July 28, 2004

Thanks! I can't have buckwheat at all as a nonnie, and I miss it. Cherries

and walnuts are great! I love those " just cherries " , they're delicious,

I'll have to try them on a salad sometime...(I usually sneak them into movie

theatres to help me resist all the awful snacks that surround me there) For

me, fruit is not a problem when it comes to losing weight or digestion.

-

Re: Diabetes book/losing weight/sample menu

Thanks, . Buckwheat and oatmeal are equal in the diabetes book,

both

are neutral/infrequent. I don't often have spelt cereal -- lately I've

been

having Barbara's rice puffins, but I bought a box of spelt flakes just to

try it, and probably won't buy it again.

One more question. The salads I mentioned, I usually throw a few walnuts

and dried cherries in there (the dried cherries are " Just Cherries, " no

additives). Is this okay?

Thanks, Carolyn

> The oatmeal stands out to me first off. Maybe it's the non-secretor in

me,

> but I can't lose an ounce with it. Spelt may also be a problem. If

you're

> a secretor, cream of buckwheat is a tasty and satisfying alternative,

but

> cutting back on any grains goes a long way. I'm not sure of the status

> changes in the diabetes book, so double check the buckwheat. I'd

probably

> add a little more beef in place of some chicken or shrimp, as beef helps

> more with weight loss. All types of seaweed help, too. Overall it

looks

> pretty good though...some good stuff there.

July 29, 2004

In a message dated 7/28/2004 8:32:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

ckc@... writes:

I've been on the diet as specified in the diabetes book and haven't lost a

whole lot of weight.

When I didn't lose weight I found out it was because I am a non-secreter and

was eating avoid foods. My meds also interfere with weight loss. You might

check these out. Another thought is that it may just be taking time for you to

start losing depending on how far out of whack your system is.

July 29, 2004

>

> > The diabetes book is also for loosing weight.

>

> I've been on the diet as specified in the diabetes book and haven't

lost a

> whole lot of weight.

>

> So let me try this again. Here are some typical days of what I

eat. Could

> you please tell me what I'm doing wrong?

>

> B: 2 eggs, rice cereal w/soy milk, blueberries

> L: chicken, salad, pineapple

> D: steak, green beans, cherries

Try almond milk instead of soymilk. Soymilk is neutral infrequent (1-

2 times/month). Have pineapple juice sometimes, helps with fluid

balance.

>

> B: steak, oatmeal, blueberries

> L: scallops, swiss chard/mushrooms, banana

> D: chicken, broccoli, plums

Cream of rice or manna bread would be better starches

>

> B: 2 eggs, sprouted bread, pineapple

> L: chicken, salad, peach

> D: fish, swiss chard/mushrooms, cherries

>

> B: chicken, spelt cereal w/soy milk, pineapple

> L: shrimp, salad, cherries

> D: lamb, carrots, plums

>

> B: chicken, sweet potato, pineapple

> L: chicken, salad, pineapple

> D: hamburger, salad, cherries

>

> B: 2 eggs, swiss chard/mushrooms, plums

> L: chicken, salad, plums

> D: salmon, peas, salad, cherries

>

> B: almond butter, sprouted bread, strawberries

> L: shrimp, salad, cherries

> D: ground beef, broccoli, tomato sauce, pineapple

Try to get in a fish that is superbeneficial and enhances metabolism,

rainbow trout or red snapper.

>

> That's a typical week. Portions are 4 oz for protein, 1 cup for

vegetables,

> 6 oz for fruit. Some days I have an afternoon snack of 1/2 oz nuts

and a

> piece of fruit.

Just cut down portions slightly and you should be in good shape. I

have the same thoughts as you on your protein selections. To get in

more protein, I use egg white powder with juice or almond milk. You

could experiment with more beef or eggs, but monitor your blood

lipids. Even a little bit of exercise, marching in place in front of

the TV, would help.

>

> I'd appreciate any help you could give me.

>

> Thanks, Carolyn

Good luck,

Cheryl

July 29, 2004

Hi CArolyn,

I'm too new with type-O to comment on the blood group aspects - but I

am not new to trying to lose weight and so maybe you can adapt my

comments for type O?

I have Cushing's syndrome which causes one to convert muscle to sugar

and dump it as fat that can't readily be burned - and one can add 4

pounds of weight per week. It's my main aim in life to reduce my weight

gain and I have actually been able to lose some to the surprise of my

endocrinologist - but I am quite fanatical about looking for ways to do

it :-)) Diabetes is also a side-effect of cushings.

One " rule " I have discovered, is to eat 5 meals a day, and they need to

be high protein with olive oil or fish oil at each! Now how that suits

type O I do not know, I hope olive oil and/or fish oil (salmon oil in

particular) is type-O compatible.

Olive oil contains omega-9s and the oleic acid in there helps one burn

fat. Fish oil contains two eicosanoids that help release fat so it is

available to burn, and also are anti-inflammatory which helps greatly in

diabetes to assist the kidneys for example.

If there is a lack of the right fats needed in EVERY meal, then it is

metabolically impossible to burn fat, no matter how low the calories.

You will just get tired from inability to burn energy.

(Sound familiar?)

Also important to include at *each* meal is an antioxidant - and again

check for those that are type O. I tend to use turmeric (1/2 teaspoon

with breakfast) and spinach a lot.

And also at each meal, there needs to be fiber.

So these 4 at each meal: Protein, the right oil, fiber and antioxidant.

And you need 5 meals.

More rules:

No starch or sugar after lunchtime!

No food the last 2 or 3 hours before bed.

Breakfast like a king, lunch like a queen, supper like a pauper.

If you can't get your best oils, use suitable nuts - but nuts are

dangerous for dieting as it is too easy to overdo the portion, and also

they do not have the ideal oil types.

In theory humans can convert linoleic acid (as in nuts) to the omega-3's

that work for fat burning (DHA and EPA) but in practise we have a

feedback loop that stops the conversion before it is optimal. so nuts

can put on weight instead of helping unless you keep the quantity very

small.

So getting your oil from extra-virgin olive oil (must be extra-virgin

or the omega-9s and oleic acid are not there in proper amount) and fish

oil (which has DHa and EPA without needing to manufacture it) is better

if you want to lose weight.

A teaspoon per meal of oil is what you need, so 5 teaspoons a day. More

can put on weight too. That amount is just enough to release and burn fat.

Less will actually retain fat regardless what else you do!

And the idea to lose weight is to exclude as much other fat as possible.

You need to exclude ALL trans-fats. Those are hiding all over - any time

you see " hydrogenated " or " partially hydrogenated " on the label - that

is trans fat. Check your oils, salad dressings and nut butter for

example. It works against you in weight loss and is terrible for your

health.

Also to lose weight, if you can reduce inflammation at the cell level

(as with fish oil). Also to reduce cell level inflammation - reduce your

sugar as that can result in glycation at cell level which is

inflammatory - and the less inflammation the better your antioxidants

can work.

You might not like the next one!

No coffee or liquorice!

but there is a good reason. Both these items cause increase in cortisol

stress hormone and diabetics already have too much due to the insulin

metabolism issue. In fact cortisol is the main reason diabetics tend to

put on weight and find it hard to lose it. Cortisol fat goes on the

lower abdomen and gets locked in. It is not like regular fat and is hard

to " unlock " so as to burn it.

The ideal drink is green tea - how does that jibe with type O?

Green tea contains theonine which inhibits cortisol - and also it is

antioxidant.

It took me a while to cut down my pots of coffee with sugar to green tea

with sugar and then to gradually reduce to no sugar. Now I happily drink

green tea hot or cold all day. It is quite diuretic for some people - so

be sure to keep hydrated. In my c ase I just drink more green tea - weak

green tea.

This may sound like a complex set of " rules " but they are hard won and

valid :-)) I have lost 30 pounds so far during a disease where it is

normal to gain continuously.

There are also dietary supplements that can help weight loss resistance

from diabetes. Conjugated linoleic acid is one. Conjugated means it is

active. Regular linoleic acid has to be converted to active in order to

burn fat, by delta-6-desaturase. But as we age we have less of the

delta-6-desaturase and it is low in diabetics. This is another reason

nuts are less helpful than olive oil or fish oil - it's not conjugated

linoleic.

I could write another long post on weight loss resistance supplements

but maybe another time if you are interested.

Another way to induce fat to get out of cells to be burned (cos it tends

to get locked in, in diabetics) is strength training exercise - not

aerobic exercise. Women have for ever been told to do aerobics and what

we need is weights for weight loss! Very little aerobic benefit goes

into fat burning - but a lot of strength training benefit is for fat

burning.

To start slow if you are like me in the strength training stakes, I

bought a box of exercise cards that shows you how to do 8 minutes a day

of strength training, no equipment needed. There are two sets, I have

the one for overweight folks:

" 8 Minutes in the morning for Real Shapes - Real Sizes kit. "

" For people who want to lose 30 pounds or more. "

by Cruise.

Each card - you use 2 a day - has a specific exercise to be done

alternating with the other card for one or two minutes each to a total

of 8 minutes. I need to get back to it -

I have a discipline problem :-))

It did help.

It all looks easy but your muscles feel it. A typical exercise is to

stand arms length from the wall, and slowly lean against it with elbows

a little bent, stand back straight and do repeatedly for 60 seconds - as

many as you can manage whatever that is, in 60 secs.

Sounds easy. Try it. This particular one alternates with the following one:

Stand against the wall touching heels butt and head, arms at sides.

Exhale as you pull back and shoulders to the wall getting lower back as

close to wall as possible. Relax and repeat for 60 secs.

The overall 8 minutes is actually 10 minutes with warm up/cool down,

this way:

Warm up by " running " in place or just walking in place 60 secs.

Alternate the two exercises 1 minute each 4 times.

Cool down by stretching for 1 minute - he gives some specific ones.

There's nothing difficult - but it *works* the muscles and there are 63

cards so there is a different pair of exercises each day for a month -

then you can mix up if you want - choose any pair. The pairs are

designed as pairs to work different muscles. and it costs ten minutes a

day at the start of the day - gets your metabolism in fat burning mode.

> B: 2 eggs, rice cereal w/soy milk, blueberries

> L: chicken, salad, pineapple

> D: steak, green beans, cherries

Soy milk is a problem.

In diabetes your immune system is skewed - too much TH-2 helper cell

activity (antibody production side in the bone marrow) and not enough

Th-1 activity ( lymphocytes for cell level immunity from the thymus).

Soy tends to increase the skewing to Th-2.

A skewed system to Th-2 produces more cortisol and you retain fat. In

fact a skewed system tpo TH-2 predisposes diabetes in the first place.

Vaccinations and drugs can also skew to Th-2 side.

Main other problem is no fat of the right kind without which you can not

burn fat.

Also you need 5 meals.

You have nice antioxidants - blueberries and cherries (hopefully black

ones)

More pigment = more antioxidant.

Blueberries and green beans are good fiber.

Apple is good fiber too - is it type-O?

I think not enough good fat is your biggest problem with your meal

planning for weight loss, and maybe fiber planning so as to have each 5

times a day.

Good luck!

Namaste,

Irene

--

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P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703.

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July 29, 2004

CK wrote:

> I use butter on my vegetables, and red wine vinaigrette on my salads.

Butter and weight loss do not mix.

" saturated fat " as in butter - means you can either burn it off

immediately or expect it to land on your hips. You need a LOT of

exercise to burn off just one teaspoon of butter.

Try extra-virgin olive oil. It will actually help your fat burn off.

I have no butter or saturated fat or bag of sugar in my house (If it's

not there you can't eat it) - EV olive works on my Ezekiel bread instead

of butter too - though I eat hardly any bread - and I see you are

similar. The Italians use olive oil on bread - they add herbs to it and

brush it onto hot bread - it's delicious :-)

Make your food delicious - it satisfies better :-)

I use a lot of spices and herbs.

I also make a lot of vegetable soup from scratch and add protein to it

such as canned salmon or sliced beef or shellfish or whatever. It puts

in all the food stuff and leaves out those antioxidant beating toxins in

commercial soup. I add in other nutrients like fiber and EV olive.

For the beef, I cook it and drain the fat. If I do hamburger I run the

browned beef under the hot tap in a stainless steel colander, return it

to the wok and add olive oil no more than 1 teaspoon per meal per person

to bring out fat-soluble flavours.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom.

P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703.

http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html

Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor.

July 29, 2004

> Hi CArolyn,

> I'm too new with type-O to comment on the blood group aspects -

but I

> am not new to trying to lose weight and so maybe you can adapt my

> comments for type O?

> I have Cushing's syndrome which causes one to convert muscle to

sugar

> and dump it as fat that can't readily be burned - and one can add 4

> pounds of weight per week. It's my main aim in life to reduce my

weight

> gain and I have actually been able to lose some to the surprise of

my

> endocrinologist - but I am quite fanatical about looking for ways

to do

> it :-)) Diabetes is also a side-effect of cushings.

>

> One " rule " I have discovered, is to eat 5 meals a day, and they

need to

> be high protein with olive oil or fish oil at each! Now how that

suits

> type O I do not know, I hope olive oil and/or fish oil (salmon oil

in

> particular) is type-O compatible.

The Diabetes book recommends 5 to 6 small meals per day. If I tried

to do food combining I'd be eating every 30 minutes. Olive oil and

flaxseed oil are compatible. Fish oil OK, but eating oily fish

probably better.

>

> Olive oil contains omega-9s and the oleic acid in there helps one

burn

> fat. Fish oil contains two eicosanoids that help release fat so it

is

> available to burn, and also are anti-inflammatory which helps

greatly in

> diabetes to assist the kidneys for example.

> If there is a lack of the right fats needed in EVERY meal, then it

is

> metabolically impossible to burn fat, no matter how low the

calories.

> You will just get tired from inability to burn energy.

> (Sound familiar?)

>

> Also important to include at *each* meal is an antioxidant - and

again

> check for those that are type O. I tend to use turmeric (1/2

teaspoon

> with breakfast) and spinach a lot.

>

> And also at each meal, there needs to be fiber.

>

> So these 4 at each meal: Protein, the right oil, fiber and

antioxidant.

Lots of vegetables and fruit should provide most fiber. O friendly

fiber supplement not a bad idea.

> And you need 5 meals.

>

> More rules:

> No starch or sugar after lunchtime!

> No food the last 2 or 3 hours before bed.

> Breakfast like a king, lunch like a queen, supper like a pauper.

Per D'Adamo this applies more specifically to another blood type not

ours.

> If you can't get your best oils, use suitable nuts - but nuts are

> dangerous for dieting as it is too easy to overdo the portion, and

also

> they do not have the ideal oil types.

Walnuts inhibit ornithine decarboxylase involved in polyamine

synthesis, but blueberries, green tea and other foods can fill this

function as well.

> In theory humans can convert linoleic acid (as in nuts) to the

omega-3's

> that work for fat burning (DHA and EPA) but in practise we have a

> feedback loop that stops the conversion before it is optimal. so

nuts

> can put on weight instead of helping unless you keep the quantity

very

> small.

> So getting your oil from extra-virgin olive oil (must be extra-

virgin

> or the omega-9s and oleic acid are not there in proper amount) and

fish

> oil (which has DHa and EPA without needing to manufacture it) is

better

> if you want to lose weight.

>

> A teaspoon per meal of oil is what you need, so 5 teaspoons a day.

More

> can put on weight too. That amount is just enough to release and

burn fat.

> Less will actually retain fat regardless what else you do!

> And the idea to lose weight is to exclude as much other fat as

possible.

> You need to exclude ALL trans-fats. Those are hiding all over - any

time

> you see " hydrogenated " or " partially hydrogenated " on the label -

that

> is trans fat. Check your oils, salad dressings and nut butter for

> example. It works against you in weight loss and is terrible for

your

> health.

>

> Also to lose weight, if you can reduce inflammation at the cell

level

> (as with fish oil). Also to reduce cell level inflammation - reduce

your

> sugar as that can result in glycation at cell level which is

> inflammatory - and the less inflammation the better your

antioxidants

> can work.

>

> You might not like the next one!

> No coffee or liquorice!

Coffee an avoid, but licorice root tea stabilized blood sugar, just

not recommended if you have high blood pressure.

> but there is a good reason. Both these items cause increase in

cortisol

> stress hormone and diabetics already have too much due to the

insulin

> metabolism issue. In fact cortisol is the main reason diabetics

tend to

> put on weight and find it hard to lose it. Cortisol fat goes on the

> lower abdomen and gets locked in. It is not like regular fat and is

hard

> to " unlock " so as to burn it.

> The ideal drink is green tea - how does that jibe with type O?

> Green tea contains theonine which inhibits cortisol - and also it

is

> antioxidant.

> It took me a while to cut down my pots of coffee with sugar to

green tea

> with sugar and then to gradually reduce to no sugar. Now I happily

drink

> green tea hot or cold all day. It is quite diuretic for some

people - so

> be sure to keep hydrated. In my c ase I just drink more green tea -

weak

> green tea.

Green tea is beneficial, vegetable glycerin is the recommended

sweetener for diabetic or weight issues.

>

> This may sound like a complex set of " rules " but they are hard won

and

> valid :-)) I have lost 30 pounds so far during a disease where it

is

> normal to gain continuously.

>

> There are also dietary supplements that can help weight loss

resistance

> from diabetes. Conjugated linoleic acid is one. Conjugated means it

is

> active. Regular linoleic acid has to be converted to active in

order to

> burn fat, by delta-6-desaturase. But as we age we have less of the

> delta-6-desaturase and it is low in diabetics. This is another

reason

> nuts are less helpful than olive oil or fish oil - it's not

conjugated

> linoleic.

CLA is high in free range beef, why it's emphasized in our diet.

> I could write another long post on weight loss resistance

supplements

> but maybe another time if you are interested.

>

> Another way to induce fat to get out of cells to be burned (cos it

tends

> to get locked in, in diabetics) is strength training exercise - not

> aerobic exercise. Women have for ever been told to do aerobics and

what

> we need is weights for weight loss! Very little aerobic benefit

goes

> into fat burning - but a lot of strength training benefit is for

fat

> burning.

Equal emphasis on aerobics and weight training for O's with diabetes

or weight issues.

>

> To start slow if you are like me in the strength training

stakes, I

> bought a box of exercise cards that shows you how to do 8 minutes a

day

> of strength training, no equipment needed. There are two sets, I

have

> the one for overweight folks:

> " 8 Minutes in the morning for Real Shapes - Real Sizes kit. "

> " For people who want to lose 30 pounds or more. "

> by Cruise.

> Each card - you use 2 a day - has a specific exercise to be done

> alternating with the other card for one or two minutes each to a

total

> of 8 minutes. I need to get back to it -

> I have a discipline problem :-))

> It did help.

>

> It all looks easy but your muscles feel it. A typical exercise is

to

> stand arms length from the wall, and slowly lean against it with

elbows

> a little bent, stand back straight and do repeatedly for 60

seconds - as

> many as you can manage whatever that is, in 60 secs.

> Sounds easy. Try it. This particular one alternates with the

following one:

> Stand against the wall touching heels butt and head, arms at sides.

> Exhale as you pull back and shoulders to the wall getting lower

back as

> close to wall as possible. Relax and repeat for 60 secs.

> The overall 8 minutes is actually 10 minutes with warm up/cool

down,

> this way:

> Warm up by " running " in place or just walking in place 60 secs.

> Alternate the two exercises 1 minute each 4 times.

> Cool down by stretching for 1 minute - he gives some specific ones.

>

> There's nothing difficult - but it *works* the muscles and there

are 63

> cards so there is a different pair of exercises each day for a

month -

> then you can mix up if you want - choose any pair. The pairs are

> designed as pairs to work different muscles. and it costs ten

minutes a

> day at the start of the day - gets your metabolism in fat burning

mode.

>

> > B: 2 eggs, rice cereal w/soy milk, blueberries

> > L: chicken, salad, pineapple

> > D: steak, green beans, cherries

>

> Soy milk is a problem.

> In diabetes your immune system is skewed - too much TH-2 helper

cell

> activity (antibody production side in the bone marrow) and not

enough

> Th-1 activity ( lymphocytes for cell level immunity from the

thymus).

> Soy tends to increase the skewing to Th-2.

> A skewed system to Th-2 produces more cortisol and you retain fat.

In

> fact a skewed system tpo TH-2 predisposes diabetes in the first

place.

> Vaccinations and drugs can also skew to Th-2 side.

>

> Main other problem is no fat of the right kind without which you

can not

> burn fat.

> Also you need 5 meals.

> You have nice antioxidants - blueberries and cherries (hopefully

black

> ones)

> More pigment = more antioxidant.

> Blueberries and green beans are good fiber.

> Apple is good fiber too - is it type-O?

>

> I think not enough good fat is your biggest problem with your meal

> planning for weight loss, and maybe fiber planning so as to have

each 5

> times a day.

>

> Good luck!

> Namaste,

> Irene

> --

> Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom.

> P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703.

> http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html

> Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor.

July 29, 2004

Ghee is beneficial, because of butyrate our best fiber benefit, just

not liberally, 2 tsp. per day recommended in one of the protocols,

probably for colon health. The milk solids in butter are the problem

for us.

> > I use butter on my vegetables, and red wine vinaigrette on my

salads.

>

> Butter and weight loss do not mix.

> " saturated fat " as in butter - means you can either burn it off

> immediately or expect it to land on your hips. You need a LOT of

> exercise to burn off just one teaspoon of butter.

> Try extra-virgin olive oil. It will actually help your fat burn off.

>

> I have no butter or saturated fat or bag of sugar in my house (If

it's

> not there you can't eat it) - EV olive works on my Ezekiel bread

instead

> of butter too - though I eat hardly any bread - and I see you are

> similar. The Italians use olive oil on bread - they add herbs to it

and

> brush it onto hot bread - it's delicious :-)

>

> Make your food delicious - it satisfies better :-)

> I use a lot of spices and herbs.

> I also make a lot of vegetable soup from scratch and add protein to

it

> such as canned salmon or sliced beef or shellfish or whatever. It

puts

> in all the food stuff and leaves out those antioxidant beating

toxins in

> commercial soup. I add in other nutrients like fiber and EV olive.

>

> For the beef, I cook it and drain the fat. If I do hamburger I run

the

> browned beef under the hot tap in a stainless steel colander,

return it

> to the wok and add olive oil no more than 1 teaspoon per meal per

person

> to bring out fat-soluble flavours.

>

> Namaste,

> Irene

> --

> Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom.

> P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703.

> http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html

> Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor.

July 29, 2004

Good information and reply.

Green tea is beneficial, but should be limited to 1-3 cups a day because of

its fluoride content. Since Os tend to have weak thyroids we need to be

careful about fluoride. Drinking too much green tea is one issue I have

trouble with. I like to brew a bunch of it with loose tea, but I am better

off drinking it by the cup with individual tea bags so I don't drink so

much. ;-)

CLA is definitely recommended for Os, but preferably in a food source versus

a supplement. That is one reason why grass fed beef in strongly encouraged.

In addition to CLA grass fed beef is also higher in omega-3 EFAs and vitamin

E.

The typical O stress hormone profile is lower cortisol and more adrenaline

versus your Cushing's syndrome. That is one big reason why a typical O does

better with intense exercise. We need it to burn off all of the adrenaline

that we produce and we don't have to worry about high levels of cortisol

accumulating. The opposite is true for blood type A.

Don

Re: Diabetes book/losing weight/sample menu

Hi CArolyn,

I'm too new with type-O to comment on the blood group aspects - but I

am not new to trying to lose weight and so maybe you can adapt my

comments for type O?

I have Cushing's syndrome which causes one to convert muscle to sugar

and dump it as fat that can't readily be burned - and one can add 4

pounds of weight per week. It's my main aim in life to reduce my weight

gain and I have actually been able to lose some to the surprise of my

endocrinologist - but I am quite fanatical about looking for ways to do

it :-)) Diabetes is also a side-effect of cushings.

One " rule " I have discovered, is to eat 5 meals a day, and they need to

be high protein with olive oil or fish oil at each! Now how that suits

type O I do not know, I hope olive oil and/or fish oil (salmon oil in

particular) is type-O compatible.

Olive oil contains omega-9s and the oleic acid in there helps one burn

fat. Fish oil contains two eicosanoids that help release fat so it is

available to burn, and also are anti-inflammatory which helps greatly in

diabetes to assist the kidneys for example.

If there is a lack of the right fats needed in EVERY meal, then it is

metabolically impossible to burn fat, no matter how low the calories.

You will just get tired from inability to burn energy.

(Sound familiar?)

Also important to include at *each* meal is an antioxidant - and again

check for those that are type O. I tend to use turmeric (1/2 teaspoon

with breakfast) and spinach a lot.

And also at each meal, there needs to be fiber.

So these 4 at each meal: Protein, the right oil, fiber and antioxidant.

And you need 5 meals.

More rules:

No starch or sugar after lunchtime!

No food the last 2 or 3 hours before bed.

Breakfast like a king, lunch like a queen, supper like a pauper.

If you can't get your best oils, use suitable nuts - but nuts are

dangerous for dieting as it is too easy to overdo the portion, and also

they do not have the ideal oil types.

In theory humans can convert linoleic acid (as in nuts) to the omega-3's

that work for fat burning (DHA and EPA) but in practise we have a

feedback loop that stops the conversion before it is optimal. so nuts

can put on weight instead of helping unless you keep the quantity very

small.

So getting your oil from extra-virgin olive oil (must be extra-virgin

or the omega-9s and oleic acid are not there in proper amount) and fish

oil (which has DHa and EPA without needing to manufacture it) is better

if you want to lose weight.

A teaspoon per meal of oil is what you need, so 5 teaspoons a day. More

can put on weight too. That amount is just enough to release and burn fat.

Less will actually retain fat regardless what else you do!

And the idea to lose weight is to exclude as much other fat as possible.

You need to exclude ALL trans-fats. Those are hiding all over - any time

you see " hydrogenated " or " partially hydrogenated " on the label - that

is trans fat. Check your oils, salad dressings and nut butter for

example. It works against you in weight loss and is terrible for your

health.

Also to lose weight, if you can reduce inflammation at the cell level

(as with fish oil). Also to reduce cell level inflammation - reduce your

sugar as that can result in glycation at cell level which is

inflammatory - and the less inflammation the better your antioxidants

can work.

You might not like the next one!

No coffee or liquorice!

but there is a good reason. Both these items cause increase in cortisol

stress hormone and diabetics already have too much due to the insulin

metabolism issue. In fact cortisol is the main reason diabetics tend to

put on weight and find it hard to lose it. Cortisol fat goes on the

lower abdomen and gets locked in. It is not like regular fat and is hard

to " unlock " so as to burn it.

The ideal drink is green tea - how does that jibe with type O?

Green tea contains theonine which inhibits cortisol - and also it is

antioxidant.

It took me a while to cut down my pots of coffee with sugar to green tea

with sugar and then to gradually reduce to no sugar. Now I happily drink

green tea hot or cold all day. It is quite diuretic for some people - so

be sure to keep hydrated. In my c ase I just drink more green tea - weak

green tea.

This may sound like a complex set of " rules " but they are hard won and

valid :-)) I have lost 30 pounds so far during a disease where it is

normal to gain continuously.

There are also dietary supplements that can help weight loss resistance

from diabetes. Conjugated linoleic acid is one. Conjugated means it is

active. Regular linoleic acid has to be converted to active in order to

burn fat, by delta-6-desaturase. But as we age we have less of the

delta-6-desaturase and it is low in diabetics. This is another reason

nuts are less helpful than olive oil or fish oil - it's not conjugated

linoleic.

I could write another long post on weight loss resistance supplements

but maybe another time if you are interested.

Another way to induce fat to get out of cells to be burned (cos it tends

to get locked in, in diabetics) is strength training exercise - not

aerobic exercise. Women have for ever been told to do aerobics and what

we need is weights for weight loss! Very little aerobic benefit goes

into fat burning - but a lot of strength training benefit is for fat

burning.

To start slow if you are like me in the strength training stakes, I

bought a box of exercise cards that shows you how to do 8 minutes a day

of strength training, no equipment needed. There are two sets, I have

the one for overweight folks:

" 8 Minutes in the morning for Real Shapes - Real Sizes kit. "

" For people who want to lose 30 pounds or more. "

by Cruise.

Each card - you use 2 a day - has a specific exercise to be done

alternating with the other card for one or two minutes each to a total

of 8 minutes. I need to get back to it -

I have a discipline problem :-))

It did help.

It all looks easy but your muscles feel it. A typical exercise is to

stand arms length from the wall, and slowly lean against it with elbows

a little bent, stand back straight and do repeatedly for 60 seconds - as

many as you can manage whatever that is, in 60 secs.

Sounds easy. Try it. This particular one alternates with the following

one:

Stand against the wall touching heels butt and head, arms at sides.

Exhale as you pull back and shoulders to the wall getting lower back as

close to wall as possible. Relax and repeat for 60 secs.

The overall 8 minutes is actually 10 minutes with warm up/cool down,

this way:

Warm up by " running " in place or just walking in place 60 secs.

Alternate the two exercises 1 minute each 4 times.

Cool down by stretching for 1 minute - he gives some specific ones.

There's nothing difficult - but it *works* the muscles and there are 63

cards so there is a different pair of exercises each day for a month -

then you can mix up if you want - choose any pair. The pairs are

designed as pairs to work different muscles. and it costs ten minutes a

day at the start of the day - gets your metabolism in fat burning mode.

> B: 2 eggs, rice cereal w/soy milk, blueberries

> L: chicken, salad, pineapple

> D: steak, green beans, cherries

Soy milk is a problem.

In diabetes your immune system is skewed - too much TH-2 helper cell

activity (antibody production side in the bone marrow) and not enough

Th-1 activity ( lymphocytes for cell level immunity from the thymus).

Soy tends to increase the skewing to Th-2.

A skewed system to Th-2 produces more cortisol and you retain fat. In

fact a skewed system tpo TH-2 predisposes diabetes in the first place.

Vaccinations and drugs can also skew to Th-2 side.

Main other problem is no fat of the right kind without which you can not

burn fat.

Also you need 5 meals.

You have nice antioxidants - blueberries and cherries (hopefully black

ones)

More pigment = more antioxidant.

Blueberries and green beans are good fiber.

Apple is good fiber too - is it type-O?

I think not enough good fat is your biggest problem with your meal

planning for weight loss, and maybe fiber planning so as to have each 5

times a day.

Good luck!

Namaste,

Irene

July 29, 2004

cherylhcmba wrote:

> Ghee is beneficial, because of butyrate our best fiber benefit, just

> not liberally, 2 tsp. per day recommended in one of the protocols,

> probably for colon health. The milk solids in butter are the problem

> for us.

I agree butyrate is relevant but there are better sources IMO for weight

loss:

Problem I see is that ghee is still saturated fat and not useful in

weight loss. You can get butyrate increased in the gut, made by

beneficial bacteria provided you eat high quality protein like beef to

give the right gut pH and starter components and eat fermentable fiber

like rice bran with some PABA to feed the bacteria (who can't produce

butyrate if THEY are not fed correctly) - and rice bran is okay for O's

I now see.

Ener-G brand is a good pure rice bran source.

That has proved its efficacy in my case too for example so it's more

than theory for all - losing 30 lbs so far when I was supposed to gain

that much or more due to the disease.

Saturated fat and weight loss do not mix as far as I can see - fiber

is better as it is slow absorbing carbohydrate and easier to avoid

storing as fat and needs no special delta-6-desaturase etc to burn.

Butyrate is really important I agree - but the research I have been

studying shows that it is produced in high amounts with the right kind

of high protein diet and the right bacteria and fermentable fiber.

So for that reason I figure we O's are not forced to use Ghee to get it.

Does that make sense?

We usually just lack the right bacteria-fiber aspect to use fiber for

butyrate. But it produces a lot of butyrate.

I use two tablespoons of rice bran (pure not cereal) per meal but most

people probably need less. I have a special case with more than just

diabetes to contend with for weight-loss resistance.

As I am learning what type O should eat, I am most surprised at how

compliant my diet already is! Except for powdered skim milk apparently :-(

For example the only wheat I get is Ezekiel bread - okay :-) and the

only potato I eat is sweet potato - also okay :-)

When I saw " no wheat " I thought oh dear there goes my Ezekiel bread -

the only kind of starch that doesn't upset my insides - but today I see

it's a yes. People think I'm weird cos I do not like cake - only a

little of the icing on top :-)

Maybe my biofeedback is not too bad :-)

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom.

P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703.

http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html

Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor.

July 29, 2004

Don St. wrote:

> Good information and reply.

>

> Green tea is beneficial, but should be limited to 1-3 cups a day because of

> its fluoride content.

Hi Don,

Oh this is news - fluoride? I did not know that.

> Since Os tend to have weak thyroids we need to be

> careful about fluoride.

I have goitre. I'd wonder if the green tea is part of that - but I have

been drinking it only for about 2 or 3 years - and goitre has been there

since 1984.

> Drinking too much green tea is one issue I have

> trouble with. I like to brew a bunch of it with loose tea, but I am better

> off drinking it by the cup with individual tea bags so I don't drink so

> much. ;-)

I do " stretch " my teabags and make about 4 to 6 cups with one bag, and I

do not let it steep. I was told not to let green tea steep but I do not

remember why!

> CLA is definitely recommended for Os, but preferably in a food source versus

> a supplement. That is one reason why grass fed beef in strongly encouraged.

Suits me - not my budget too well though. I have not been well enough to

work many hours in a day for some years so I am living on a shoestring.

Protein is not cheap.

> In addition to CLA grass fed beef is also higher in omega-3 EFAs and vitamin

> E.

Also good to know - but is it not arachidonic acid that is the Omega-3

most prevalent in beef?

Is os that's inflammatory where the DHA and EPA omega-3s are

anti-inflammatory. So I am trying to be careful about *which* omega-3's

I eat, and like to include fresh wild salmon when I can get it for less

than a hunk of gold.

> The typical O stress hormone profile is lower cortisol and more adrenaline

> versus your Cushing's syndrome.

Very interesting. I suppose I'd HAVe to be different :-))

I am forever seeming to be different from the norm somehow. It can be

frustrating as I'll try something that is supposed to be good - and find

it is not so for me - one reason I am looking at blood type diet now.

> That is one big reason why a typical O does

> better with intense exercise. We need it to burn off all of the adrenaline

> that we produce and we don't have to worry about high levels of cortisol

> accumulating.

Except that vigorous exercise ALSO is good for lowering cortisol. In

fact it literally burns off the cortisol and also undoes the cortisol

muscle breakdown effect.

When I was healthier and before I got cushings (which happened in 1998)

I was an extreme exerciser -triathlons and long distance mountain pass

cycle racing and long distance swimming etc. I did that from early

childhood and never felt well if I was not exercising " excessively " as

people described it. Now I still want to exercise but Cushings steals

all your energy and it is easy to collapse exhausted and struggling for

air with small effort as you can't get to the fat to burn it. I'm

working up gradually - but overdoing it one day causes severe problems

for the next two weeks starting the next day. And may lead to one of

those awful 3-months of pneumonia things I do. So it's awkward to judge,

but essential to do the max :-)

Dietary help is certainly good news in my life. (They do not know where

my cortisol producing tumours are so I control the disease entirely with

exercise and diet and homeopathy. So far so good - life expectancy in

1998 was " less than five years " , but I have been better each year since

a scary low in 2001.)

> The opposite is true for blood type A.

Interesting data considering how rare cushings is - wonder how they

figured it out.

There are about 100 people on the Cushing's list where I am a member. It

would be interesting to poll for blood type and compare with normal

distribution :-)))

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom.

P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703.

http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html

Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor.

July 29, 2004

Wow, thank you all for such incredibly detailed feedback.

I went to the health food store and bought some ghee today, and will try it.

I also bought almond milk, but it has sugar in it, and I normally use the

soy milk without sugar, so I'll have to see how it makes me feel. I've also

gone through my weekly planner and boosted the beneficial proteins and

removed most of the grain (I still have ezekial bread twice a week, and a

bowl of rice cereal once a week; these may go in the future).

Yes, cherries are black. Plums are red and black.

Apples are neutrals, by the way.

Thanks again! Carolyn

July 29, 2004

I would look at the complete ingredients list of the almond milk you bought.

I have never found a commercial almond milk that did not have avoid

ingredients in it.

If the one you bought is OK, what brand is it?

The nice thing about ghee is that it is good for higher temperature cooking

versus olive oil.

Don

Re: Re: Diabetes book/losing weight/sample menu

Wow, thank you all for such incredibly detailed feedback.

I went to the health food store and bought some ghee today, and will try

it.

I also bought almond milk, but it has sugar in it, and I normally use the

soy milk without sugar, so I'll have to see how it makes me feel. I've

also

gone through my weekly planner and boosted the beneficial proteins and

removed most of the grain (I still have ezekial bread twice a week, and a

bowl of rice cereal once a week; these may go in the future).

Yes, cherries are black. Plums are red and black.

Apples are neutrals, by the way.

Thanks again! Carolyn

July 29, 2004

Just make sure it is sprouted Ezekiel bread, sprouted wheat bread is OK too.

I once bought a " Ezekiel " labeled product and after I got home looked at the

ingredients list and discovered that it was made with flours instead of

sprouted grains. :-( I gove it to a neighbor.

Don

Re: Re: Diabetes book/losing weight/sample menu

As I am learning what type O should eat, I am most surprised at how

compliant my diet already is! Except for powdered skim milk apparently :-(

For example the only wheat I get is Ezekiel bread - okay :-) and the

only potato I eat is sweet potato - also okay :-)

When I saw " no wheat " I thought oh dear there goes my Ezekiel bread -

the only kind of starch that doesn't upset my insides - but today I see

it's a yes. People think I'm weird cos I do not like cake - only a

little of the icing on top :-)

Maybe my biofeedback is not too bad :-)

Namaste,

Irene

July 29, 2004

Yes, your goiter could be related to fluoride. You should not use

toothpaste with flouride either.

Also chloride presents the same problem. What about your drinking and

cooking water, shower, etc.?

Are you getting plenty of iodine? Seaweed? Bladderwrack is the highly

recommended for thyroid problems.

Stress hormones and blood type are discussed in the LR4YT book.

Need to run. I'm going on a bike ride!

Don

Re: Diabetes book/losing weight/sample menu

Don St. wrote:

> Good information and reply.

>

> Green tea is beneficial, but should be limited to 1-3 cups a day because

of

> its fluoride content.

Hi Don,

Oh this is news - fluoride? I did not know that.

> Since Os tend to have weak thyroids we need to be

> careful about fluoride.

I have goitre. I'd wonder if the green tea is part of that - but I have

been drinking it only for about 2 or 3 years - and goitre has been there

since 1984.

> Drinking too much green tea is one issue I have

> trouble with. I like to brew a bunch of it with loose tea, but I am

better

> off drinking it by the cup with individual tea bags so I don't drink so

> much. ;-)

I do " stretch " my teabags and make about 4 to 6 cups with one bag, and I

do not let it steep. I was told not to let green tea steep but I do not

remember why!

> CLA is definitely recommended for Os, but preferably in a food source

versus

> a supplement. That is one reason why grass fed beef in strongly

encouraged.

Suits me - not my budget too well though. I have not been well enough to

work many hours in a day for some years so I am living on a shoestring.

Protein is not cheap.

> In addition to CLA grass fed beef is also higher in omega-3 EFAs and

vitamin

> E.

Also good to know - but is it not arachidonic acid that is the Omega-3

most prevalent in beef?

Is os that's inflammatory where the DHA and EPA omega-3s are

anti-inflammatory. So I am trying to be careful about *which* omega-3's

I eat, and like to include fresh wild salmon when I can get it for less

than a hunk of gold.

> The typical O stress hormone profile is lower cortisol and more

adrenaline

> versus your Cushing's syndrome.

Very interesting. I suppose I'd HAVe to be different :-))

I am forever seeming to be different from the norm somehow. It can be

frustrating as I'll try something that is supposed to be good - and find

it is not so for me - one reason I am looking at blood type diet now.

> That is one big reason why a typical O does

> better with intense exercise. We need it to burn off all of the