Re: Newbie nervously dips in her toe.....

July 27, 2004

If your current husband is the father of your son then your son must be type

O. You would need to get him typed to find out if he is Rh + or -. The Rh

factor is not a significant issue in the diet. O- needs more animal protein

and even less grain in their diet.

If you are pregnant I would recommend that you read Dr. D' Adamo's book Eat

Right 4 Your Baby.

Good luck on giving up wheat. I think you will be very happy with the

results of giving it up. I know that initially it seems easier to shift

from wheat to the neutral grains, but your long term goal should be to

minimize all grains in your diet.

You will probably find, within a few weeks, that following the ER4YT

recommendations will help a lot with your anxiety problems.

There are a few foods where one part of the food is OK, like olive oil, and

another part of the food isn't, like olives. Here is the generic response

about that issue from the FAQ.

" Why is the status of a whole food one value, and an extract or preparation

of the food rated the opposite?

The lectin content or antigenic propensity (allergy potential) of certain

foods is modified by processing. In some cases the unhealthier form (i.e

processed bread) may be acceptable if heat or milling has removed the lectin

from the food. Other times processing enhances the effect of a lectin, so

the native form is acceptable, but the processed form is not. "

Don

July 27, 2004

> Also, why is olive oil Beneficial but olives are Avoid? I

looked all

> over the website and in the archives of this group and couldn't

find

> any info on that.

Welcome!

Ripe olives are an avoid because Os have problems with molds and

ripe olives generally contain them.

July 27, 2004

In a message dated 7/27/2004 8:28:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

cheesepuppet@... writes:

I'm not a

vegetable girl, I've joked for years that my two food groups are wheat

and dairy. Imagine how much I wanted this diet to be wrong!

I think this is the reason most people don't want to believe in the diet.

They're used to eating processed, easy foods. It's much easier to put the diet

in perpective if you're seriously ill and can't figure out a way to get

healthy. The benefits of the diet are immediate. If you ate bread and your

legs

turned into elephant legs or if you ate dairy and became bed ridden from the

pain of irritable bowl syndrome or reflux, it would be an obvious choice. As

you

get older, this will become painfully obvious to you if you don't eat right.

The typical trail I've seen people go down is to take meds for everything

like reflux, IBS, high blood pressure, high cholestrol, etc. The effect of that

is to lower your immune system and overload your liver so that you also begin

to have infections, respiratory problems, rashes, etc and, of course, you then

take antibiotics that really wipe out your immune system. The cycle is a

deadly spiral into the complete loss of health. THEN you'll jump at this diet

and start to heal. Why not skip the middle and just stay healthy now?

July 27, 2004

Thanks Belinda! Good to know!

- Hollie

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 07:32:47 -0600, Belinda <hestia@...> wrote:

> Welcome!

>

> Ripe olives are an avoid because Os have problems with molds and

> ripe olives generally contain them.

>

July 27, 2004

Thanks for the tips Don! I didn't know that about how our son must be

an O if Greg and I are. That means the baby currently in the belly

will be an O too; we'll have an easy time creating menus for the

family! I'm so grateful for that.

I'm going to go out today and find the pregnancy book.

Also thanks for the excerpt from the website. I must have missed that

in my reading! I think I was searching specifically for olive oil and

the answer was more general than that.

- Hollie

RE: Newbie nervously dips in her toe.....

If your current husband is the father of your son then your son must be type

O. You would need to get him typed to find out if he is Rh + or -. The Rh

factor is not a significant issue in the diet. O- needs more animal protein

and even less grain in their diet.

If you are pregnant I would recommend that you read Dr. D' Adamo's book Eat

Right 4 Your Baby.

Good luck on giving up wheat. I think you will be very happy with the

results of giving it up. I know that initially it seems easier to shift

from wheat to the neutral grains, but your long term goal should be to

minimize all grains in your diet.

You will probably find, within a few weeks, that following the ER4YT

recommendations will help a lot with your anxiety problems.

There are a few foods where one part of the food is OK, like olive oil, and

another part of the food isn't, like olives. Here is the generic response

about that issue from the FAQ.

" Why is the status of a whole food one value, and an extract or preparation

of the food rated the opposite?

The lectin content or antigenic propensity (allergy potential) of certain

foods is modified by processing. In some cases the unhealthier form (i.e

processed bread) may be acceptable if heat or milling has removed the lectin

from the food. Other times processing enhances the effect of a lectin, so

the native form is acceptable, but the processed form is not. "

Don

July 27, 2004

That's the great thing about this group. There are several books,

the website and the archives from this group, but it's still hard to

find an answer to a specific question. Someone in this group usually

has the answer on hand. They can help you maneuver the other

information too. Using the databases at www.dadamo.com can be tricky.

> Thanks for the tips Don! I didn't know that about how our son must

be

> an O if Greg and I are. That means the baby currently in the belly

> will be an O too; we'll have an easy time creating menus for the

> family! I'm so grateful for that.

>

> I'm going to go out today and find the pregnancy book.

>

> Also thanks for the excerpt from the website. I must have missed

that

> in my reading! I think I was searching specifically for olive oil

and

> the answer was more general than that.

>

> - Hollie

>

> RE: Newbie nervously dips in her toe.....

>

> If your current husband is the father of your son then your son

must be type

> O. You would need to get him typed to find out if he is Rh + or -

.. The Rh

> factor is not a significant issue in the diet. O- needs more

animal protein

> and even less grain in their diet.

>

> If you are pregnant I would recommend that you read Dr. D' Adamo's

book Eat

> Right 4 Your Baby.

>

> Good luck on giving up wheat. I think you will be very happy with

the

> results of giving it up. I know that initially it seems easier to

shift

> from wheat to the neutral grains, but your long term goal should

be to

> minimize all grains in your diet.

>

> You will probably find, within a few weeks, that following the

ER4YT

> recommendations will help a lot with your anxiety problems.

>

> There are a few foods where one part of the food is OK, like olive

oil, and

> another part of the food isn't, like olives. Here is the generic

response

> about that issue from the FAQ.

>

> " Why is the status of a whole food one value, and an extract or

preparation

> of the food rated the opposite?

> The lectin content or antigenic propensity (allergy potential) of

certain

> foods is modified by processing. In some cases the unhealthier

form (i.e

> processed bread) may be acceptable if heat or milling has removed

the lectin

> from the food. Other times processing enhances the effect of a

lectin, so

> the native form is acceptable, but the processed form is not. "

>

> Don

July 28, 2004

Hollie wrote:

> I'm still skeptical of the whole thing, but I'm not here to troll or

> argue with anyone. I'm here to learn. I'm like Mulder from the

> X-Files. I *want* to believe. I'm just having a hard time with it. It

> seems to go against everything I've ever heard from nutrition classes

> and other diet and health books.

I'm the other newbie and you put that so well - I feel very similarly,

but also " want " to find health and am willing to look into it seriously.

I ignored the whole thing originally because it said type O can't have

dairy - and in my life I'd be lost without dairy. Except MY dairy has to

be nonfat. I can't handle the fat in dairy - even though I'll eat extra

sharp cheese - VERY little.

Just tonight I left out the skim milk powder in my meal, and instant

gastric problems and threatened ulcer return - so I added it back.

I come from a long line of dairy and fruit farmers, and can't help

wondering if that has to make an exception for nonfat dairy. Maybe I am

adapted? I don't know - just surmising as I still need to find out why

dairy seems to be excluded for type O (assuming I got that much right!)

So - good luck in your searches and researches too!

I think we all want the same thing - better health?

So far, the best diet for me has been " The Perricone Prescription "

> change that as of today. Even before reading the book I've been

> noticing that with this pregnancy I'm usually nauseous about 20

> minutes after I eat any meal containing wheat.

Vit B6 also helps pregnancy nausea - maybe wheat causes type O to use it up?

> Today I

> bought some chicken, spelt flout ($2 a lb!), and some sprouted bread.

I stopped eating bread a long time ago, it just makes me ill. so does

pizza. But recently I discovered Ezekiel cinnamon and raisin bread and

that is okay for me. But not too much of it. Maybe a slice a day max.

My problem is not knowing what to use instead of bread. I have huge

overweight and sugar craving from Cushing syndrome but I don't like the

taste of sugar :-)) Yet I need to eat something. Protein protein and

protein seems okay with my insides but I have a budget too, and what

about balance :-)

> I'm really interested in hearing how other O's have made this

> adjustment.

Me too!!! I don't plan to reinvent the wheel if someone will kindly

share what they learned by the school of hard knocks.

> Also, why is olive oil Beneficial but olives are Avoid?

It does seem odd. Maybe it's because different components of plants

occur in the fat/oil aspect than dissolve in the water parts of the

plant. I found from Perricone Rx that olive oil is good for me.

I have a hard time digesting fat, and was almost eating a no fat diet

till I found olive oil. For me that was a breakthrough - and so it's

nice that I see it is " beneficial " to O types officially too.

Good luck!

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom.

P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703.

http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html

Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor.

July 28, 2004

In a message dated 7/28/2004 3:17:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

furryboots@... writes:

Except MY dairy has to

be nonfat.

The fat in dairy is what you CAN eat. Butter.

July 28, 2004

BTW. O nonnies can have coconut oil. Good for frying.

July 28, 2004

The allowed dairy should give you some of the benefits that the avoid dairy

does (don't worry that you may be a non-secretor) if it's low-fat enough for

you to tolerate, try replacing some of the milk with mozzarella cheese,

Farmer's Cheese, Feta Cheese, and goat cheese. See how it goes. I thought

I was an exception on the dairy part too, it's actually taken me five years

to accept that I'm not. But you don't need to jump in all at once, a

gradual approach is easier on the mind and the body. Well, some might argue

that with me, but I think it is.

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