Re: Newbie considering the Blood Type diet

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In a message dated 3/23/2004 1:43:36 AM Eastern Standard Time,

happyhomemakerof6@... writes:

>

>

> Hi All,

> I have been using the South Beach Diet program for about 4-5 weeks

> now.

What's the difference between Southbeach and Atkins? They sound the same.

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The ER4YT diet is for restoring and maintaining your health. Weight loss is

a byproduct. What the ER4YT diet does is identify foods by blood type that

are good or bad for you so that you can use or avoid them in your diet. It's a

great roadmap. Everyone is different and will have varying degrees of

reactions to different foods. Give the diet 2 weeks to a month with absolutely

no

cheating and you'll never look back. You'll feel great after about a week and

you'll know how your body reacts to different avoids as you try to reintroduce

them to your diet.

I really believe that the diet gets a bad name because people go on it for a

couple of days, cheat, and then say that it isn't any good because they never

detox. When you cheat, your body will adjust to an avoid and after a couple

of days it won't make you immediately sick any more so you'll think the diet is

wrong. The damage is still being done but you just can't feel it anymore

until you really get sick with something chronic. Lots of folks here who left

the diet and are back because they now have some serious condition. Everytime I

stray, my body blugeons me half to death. January is always a recovery month

from the holiday season for me and I swear every year that I'm dying of some

disease but the diet pulls me back out of the nosedive.

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In a message dated 3/23/2004 6:54:19 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Maddviking@... writes:

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> What's the difference between Southbeach and Atkins? They sound the same.

South Beach allows many foods that Atkins does not. In fact, some Atkineers

refer to south beach as the 'cheater's Atkins'. No disrespect intended. I'm

the first one to say there is no one plan that will fit everyone. In fact, my

(diabetic, A+) DH has been on Atkins for about a year and hasn't lost much at

all - about 13 lbs. I just got him the book for South Beach and he's going to

try that one next. Unfortunately, I don't think he'd follow the ER4YT A diet

since he likes his meat too much and isn't much on veggies at all.

June

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In a message dated 3/23/2004 7:11:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,

happyhomemakerof6@... writes:

> It has proven to lower bad cholesterol

> levels and increase the good ones, it is heart-healthy, and has

> addressed diabetic cocerns as well. Because there is such a variety

> of good meats and vegetables and no processed food intake people are

> losing weight and getting healthier at the same time.

>

This is also true of Atkins which, btw, does NOT " recommend " high cholesterol

items. It just doesn't restrict them. It's up to the individual to decide

how much saturated fat/cholesterol they can or want to include in their daily

diet. Unlike the media would like to portray Atkins, it is not the

butter/bacon/beef diet.

June

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We are not held back by what we are,

but by what we think we are not!

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In a message dated 3/23/2004 8:01:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Maddviking@... writes:

> I really believe that the diet gets a bad name because people go on it for

> a

> couple of days, cheat, and then say that it isn't any good because they

> never

> detox.

Yeah, the same thing happens w/people who 'try' atkins. I'm really looking

forward to adding Dr. D's protocols to Dr. A's.

June

My Atkins Journey

AtkinsFL AtkinsOver40

ICQ: 1761085 & AIM: LCchickFL

We are not held back by what we are,

but by what we think we are not!

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On the surface, people assume this about the 2 programs, but the

advid SB group is very defensive of this NOT being so.

I don't know a lot about Atkins, but my understanding is that it is

low carbs and recommends high cholesterol food items. SB has a 2

week detox of no sugar, no fruit (high sugar content), no starches.

After the 2 weeks you are to try adding a new healthy food item to

your eating such as 100% whole wheat products - no white flour or

processed foods of any kind. It has proven to lower bad cholesterol

levels and increase the good ones, it is heart-healthy, and has

addressed diabetic cocerns as well. Because there is such a variety

of good meats and vegetables and no processed food intake people are

losing weight and getting healthier at the same time.

> In a message dated 3/23/2004 1:43:36 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> happyhomemakerof6@h... writes:

>

> >

> >

> > Hi All,

> > I have been using the South Beach Diet program for about 4-5

weeks

> > now.

>

> What's the difference between Southbeach and Atkins? They sound

the same.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You mentioned diabetes. Dr D'adamo has a book out now for diabetics by blood

type. Also, after 6 months of arthritis I've been pain free by eating this

way, and I seem to stay healthy and not be as irritable.

Newbie considering the Blood Type diet

> Hi All,

> I have been using the South Beach Diet program for about 4-5 weeks

> now. I have lost weight, but my reason for participating with the

> program was the health benefit that it claims and has proven with

> the lower cholesterol, diabetes patients, etc.

> However, my husband has been complaining that I am not my pleasant

> self and am instead rather snippy and not so friendly. I mentioned

> this to my sister and she pulled out the ER4YT cookbook. She hadn't

> read it before this because she didn't know her blood type. As luck

> would have it, we are identical twins and I was able to contact my

> dr's office and obtain my type O+. After discovering this and

> reading through the book I discovered that almost EVERYTHING that I

> have been eating these past few weeks are on the AVOID list.

> I would grately appreciate any input you may have for me and I would

> espcecially like to hear the proven health benefits of eating this

> way.

> Thank you.

> e

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>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/23/2004 10:50:42 AM Eastern Standard Time,

LCchickFL@... writes:

> This is also true of Atkins which, btw, does NOT " recommend " high

> cholesterol

> items.

Gee, false advertising to promote a product again? What a shock. Flying in

the face of the current understanding, I don't think you can control your

cholesterol level much by eating foods high or low in cholesterol. Cholesterol

level is determined by the liver. The health of your liver is determined by

your health. I think that clogging of the arteries is more involved than just

cholesterol level. I believe we spend way too much time wondering how much fat

and cholesterol is in something. Can you imagine a starving hunter-gatherer

wondering whether he should eat the eggs he's just found because of their

cholesterol level? I know people who lived well into their 90s who had

cholesterol

levels over 400. I also have a cousin who took cholesterol medicine for 20

years and has had to have his esophagus removed because of ulcers and sleeps

sitting up.

A theory put forth is that we weaken our arteries and cause pin hole leaks

through bad diet and the liver produces cholesterol to plug these leaks. By

lowering the cholesterol, we're making things worse. Of course this theory and

many like it are not pursued because there's no money in it. Makers of Lipitor

are now telling you that your normal cholesterol is now high and you should

take even more Lipitor. If you have a pain, they give you pain pills instead

of figuring out what is causing the pain. Remember when the way to combat

kidney stones was to NOT eat calcium? Now we know that the opposite is true.

Remember when antidepressants, ridilin (sp), etc for our children were the

darlings of the medical community? Now they're finding out that people commit

suicide or kill other people. How long ago was it that they were calling Dr.

Atkins a quack and they still try to call DR Dadamo a quack even though he has

mountains of proof and studies to back him up. Pull the string on cholesterol

and low fat research and see where that takes you.

I just remember that old healthy hunter-gatherer who ate what his instincts

told him and his biggest worry was being eaten by another healthy animal.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/23/2004 10:58:32 AM Eastern Standard Time,

LCchickFL@... writes:

> Unfortunately, I don't think he'd follow the ER4YT A diet

> since he likes his meat too much and isn't much on veggies at all.

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/23/2004 10:58:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,

LCchickFL@... writes:

> Yeah, the same thing happens w/people who 'try' atkins. I'm really looking

>

> forward to adding Dr. D's protocols to Dr. A's.

>

It's really easy. The formidable part is getting passed the carbs but you've

already done that on Atkins.

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In a message dated 3/23/2004 10:58:32 AM Eastern Standard Time,

LCchickFL@... writes:

> Unfortunately, I don't think he'd follow the ER4YT A diet

> since he likes his meat too much and isn't much on veggies at all.

>

You might be surprised. Have him commit to a week or two and see what

happens. Watch his health drastically improve. Also, he can eat chicken and

fish--that's meat.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/23/2004 5:33:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Maddviking@... writes:

> Flying in the face of the current understanding, I don't think you can

> control your

> cholesterol level much by eating foods high or low in cholesterol.

> Cholesterol

> level is determined by the liver. The health of your liver is determined by

>

> your health. I think that clogging of the arteries is more involved than

> just

> cholesterol level. I believe we spend way too much time wondering how much

> fat

> and cholesterol is in something.

I totally agree. In fact, they are finding out more and more that high blood

sugar levels are more significant in clogged arteries than previously

thought. No surprise since sugar syrup is sticky so of course the fat molecules

in

your blood will stick to the walls of your arteries better if you have high BS.

At least that was the best explanation I ever heard about it from a Doctor.

June

My Atkins Journey

AtkinsFL AtkinsOver40

ICQ: 1761085 & AIM: LCchickFL

We are not held back by what we are,

but by what we think we are not!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/23/2004 5:43:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Maddviking@... writes:

> Also, he can eat chicken and

> fish--that's meat.

>

Not to him. LOL And the only veggies he'll eat are green beans, corn,

pickles/cucumbers and salad.

June

My Atkins Journey

AtkinsFL AtkinsOver40

ICQ: 1761085 & AIM: LCchickFL

We are not held back by what we are,

but by what we think we are not!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/23/2004 6:11:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Maddviking@... writes:

> The formidable part is getting passed the carbs but you've

> already done that on Atkins.

>

I sure have. I'll tell you, it was like my body breathed a sigh of relief

and contentment when I started Atkins. After seeing that type O's were

basically suited to low carb, I figured the other advice in the BTD would

probably

help me out as well. I think the hardest one will be giving up the cheese,

although I have thought about restricting dairy for a while now since I do have

issues that would probably be helped by that. I'm really looking forward to

seeing the impact of this plan on my allergy symptoms (which are almost year

round).

June

My Atkins Journey

AtkinsFL AtkinsOver40

ICQ: 1761085 & AIM: LCchickFL

We are not held back by what we are,

but by what we think we are not!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/24/2004 9:45:46 AM Eastern Standard Time,

cmmontano@... writes:

> Also if he can cut non-meat avoids, different

> avoids and sees benefits, then great! In other words, don't start off by

> doing the very hardest thing which is an avoid. In any event maybe keeping

> his meat and doing other parts of the regimen will yield great results and

> he may choose never to abandon the meat.

> Good luck!

Thanks. Good suggestion. I'll check out his (A) info after I get mine in

order.

June

My Atkins Journey

AtkinsFL AtkinsOver40

ICQ: 1761085 & AIM: LCchickFL

We are not held back by what we are,

but by what we think we are not!

[Guest guest]

IMHO, if I were you with the skin problems you have, I'd immediately follow

the ER4YT diet eating mostly beneficials and eliminating all avoids for a

while. It sounds to me like you've depleted the mucus protective layer away

from

your intestinal wall and the avoid lectins are going straight into your

bloodstream (remember, I'm an engineer not a doctor). I know that this is not

the

popular way to experience the diet but I went cold turkey because of my heart

problem and felt the difference in a week or so. As time went by I felt better

and better and got more healthy. I think the important thing was that I

stopped doing damage to myself.

It will take time to heal but the fewer avoids you eat the sooner you'll feel

better and detox your body. Stay away from dairy, grains (wheat, corn, etc),

and nightshade vegetables (potato,egg-plant, etc--tomatoes are OK). If you

don't go cold turkey, you may not feel the benefits of the diet and still be

eating the avoid that's causing the problem. This will discourage you from the

diet.

You can always experiment and add things back in once you get healthy. Hope

this helps.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/24/2004 10:22:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,

LCchickFL@... writes:

> Not to him. LOL And the only veggies he'll eat are green beans, corn,

> pickles/cucumbers and salad.

>

LOL--cut out the corn and pickles and you're there.

[Guest guest]

Sorry for my misleading post, for As corn and pickles are OK.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/24/2004 11:13:09 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Maddviking@... writes:

> LOL--cut out the corn and pickles and you're there.

Actually, he has cut out the corn since he's sort of following low carb with

me but I think he'd cut off his right arm rather than give up those pickles.

LOL

June

My Atkins Journey

AtkinsFL AtkinsOver40

ICQ: 1761085 & AIM: LCchickFL

We are not held back by what we are,

but by what we think we are not!

[Guest guest]

Remember the steps that D'Adamo recommends to start ER4YT which start off by

adding beneficials and doing exercise. After that the avoiding of foods

come. Perhaps if he starts adding beneficials in and begins feeling good,

that will be a motivator. Also if he can cut non-meat avoids, different

avoids and sees benefits, then great! In other words, don't start off by

doing the very hardest thing which is an avoid. In any event maybe keeping

his meat and doing other parts of the regimen will yield great results and

he may choose never to abandon the meat.

Good luck!

[Guest guest]

I've been on the blood type diet for 5 to 6 months and also go to

Weight Watchers. I use the structure of WW to determine how much to

eat and select foods according to the blood type diet. I've lost

over 60 pounds but was loosing before the blood type diet as well.

I've been working on it for almost 3 years. Like you, the first

thing I observed was that I ate lots of avoids and seldom had

beneficials. The key changes I made were adding beef, pineapple

juice, prune juice, walnuts and kelp or bladderwrack capsules, then

reducing coffee, wheat, corn, white potatoes and orange juice. I

found that I was more satisfied with the same number of WW points

which roughly corresponds to calories. I only wanted to maintain my

weight for the last 3 months of last year to enjoy the holidays but

continued to loose slowly. My sleep improved, my bowels became much

more regular. My lipid profiles and fasting glucose were already

excellent but stayed good with slight improvement. My doctor was

surprised when I told him that I had added more beef to my diet. He

gave me full go ahead to continue on the blood type diet. I'm 49 so

we monitor my TSH. It's been borderline high for the past few years,

but this year dropped from 4.5 to 1.4, closer to the lower end of the

normal range which is better. I think the iodine in the bladderwrack

helps with natural thyroid production. My main goal is weight loss

so I went through the lists and highlighted foods or supplements that

affected metabolism. I'm most careful about avoiding foods that

inhibit metabolism and eating beneficials that boost metabolism. If

the South Beach plan was working for you, you might try a similar

approach, use SB but select specific foods according to blood type.

I always monitor my bloodwork, it's my first target, then the weight.

Good Luck

> Hi All,

> I have been using the South Beach Diet program for about 4-5 weeks

> now. I have lost weight, but my reason for participating with the

> program was the health benefit that it claims and has proven with

> the lower cholesterol, diabetes patients, etc.

> However, my husband has been complaining that I am not my pleasant

> self and am instead rather snippy and not so friendly. I mentioned

> this to my sister and she pulled out the ER4YT cookbook. She

hadn't

> read it before this because she didn't know her blood type. As

luck

> would have it, we are identical twins and I was able to contact my

> dr's office and obtain my type O+. After discovering this and

> reading through the book I discovered that almost EVERYTHING that I

> have been eating these past few weeks are on the AVOID list.

> I would grately appreciate any input you may have for me and I

would

> espcecially like to hear the proven health benefits of eating this

> way.

> Thank you.

> e

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/26/2004 6:41:41 AM Eastern Standard Time,

nieema0@... writes:

> Tomatoes are ok???????

Check your list. Neutral for all Os and all blood group non-secretors.

According to some studies, good for the prostate.

[Guest guest]

> stopped doing damage to myself.

>

> It will take time to heal but the fewer avoids you eat the sooner

> you'll feel

> better and detox your body. Stay away from dairy, grains (wheat,

> corn, etc),

> and nightshade vegetables (potato,egg-plant, etc--tomatoes are OK).

> If you

> don't go cold turkey, you may not feel the benefits of the diet and

> still be

> eating the avoid that's causing the problem. This will discourage you

> from the

> diet.

>

Greetings to all

Tomatoes are ok???????

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