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Dear Kay,

Tell them you want a review or hearing on the case. I had that happen with

several insurance carriers over the years. I represented myself always, even for

larger cases. I won them all except for one, for which my doctor put down a

wrong diagnosis (what a fool he was, I must say). Be aware though, it can take

years in some cases and the hospitals harrassed me terribly for the money

during that time. I did not pay though, as some of these bills cost several

thousand dollars.

The exact same problem as you had, they gave an ok on the phone and then

didn't pay the bill. If you have the name of the person you spoke to, and the

date

and time you spoke to them, you have a chance to get it covered. The usually

record all conversations and if it goes to hearing, they will have to produce

the recording or you can request it.

They will usually require you to send in a written request for a review, and

you have to use everything you can possibly think of on your side of the

argument. Having given them the diagnosis code, they should have not made this

error. It is their responsibility to know the conditions of coverage when you

call.

Very important, when you send anything in to them, send it certified (or

registered), I forget which (PO will know), but also get a RETURN receipt so

they

have to sign for it, proving they received it. Insurance companies will try to

tell you that you didn't meet the time requirements (either 30 or 60 days

sometimes and this can be from date of original submission) and deny the claim

before it even gets to review. They did this to me several times, and when I

sent in the signed return receipt, they had to immediately open the case.

I always keep records of everyone I call at these companies, and I write it

on the bill (I make a copy first) so I cannot lose it somewhere around the

house! If I don't attach it, i'll surely lose it...I have way too many papers!

A word to the wise, if you do get it covered, keep the records for a long

time. In one instance, they billed me again 4 years later! I threatened them

with

harrassment and double billing and wouldn't you know, the payment record

turned up right away when they received a certified letter telling them my

lawyer

would contact them regarding these issues.

Best of luck, hope this helps...

Debra!

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This sort of thing makes my blood boil. I was in the insurance business for

30+ years. Go to your state insurance department and ask to file a

complaint. Give them every piece of documentation you have and explain the

problem so it can be easily understood. They should fight for your rights.

Jane

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In a message dated 1/18/2004 7:52:52 PM Pacific Standard Time,

jbrpol2@... writes:

called the president of my Blue Cross Blue Shield

When we were in Group Health, when I would encounter difficulties, I would

call the Director for our region. Everytime, the 'problem' was resolved in my

favor.

I did get tired of the baloney and the constant fights with the insurance

company. Kay, I so feel for you!

K (the other one :)

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A Blue Cross supervisor called tonight. I was quite surprised that the took the

time to return my call. She tried to make it seem my fault that they had given

me misinformation. The diagnosis code was for Achilles tendonitis. She said

when they are given the diagnosis code for physical therapy that they don't know

what part of the body it is for. She said that they are not doctors. It seems

to me that Achilles tendonitis is specific. She said I should ask more

questions. I said I was given an unqualified " Yes, its covered " . If they had

given me complete information I could have gone through the proper channels for

foot care approval. It seems to me that it is their responsibility to ask

necessary questions. The supervisor seems to have a record of the call and

their approval. At first she said to send it to appeals. A few minutes later

she called and said that she looked up " Achilles Tendonitis " in her medical

dictionary. She said it pertains to the leg. DUH! She said to have the

hospital resubmit the claim saying that it wasn't foot/ankle care and say it was

physical therapy for my leg. Seems a crazy system that thinks the foot, ankle,

leg are isolated body parts. Overall, it was just one of those conversations

that left me shaking my head. I know this incident may seem minor compared to

the problems that many of you are facing but its an example today's wacky

medical insurance system.

Kay

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