ADMIN: NAP SECRETOR TEST WRONG RESULTS/ALL READ

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BEFORE YOU READ FURTHER, THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT MESSAGE I HAVE EVER SENT TO ANY OF THE LISTS EVER. PLEASE SEND ALL RESPONSES TO Heidi Merritt, SouthLodge@..., no later than Tuesday, 5/28/01.

Heidi, you have my express permission to reprint this on the main BB at dadamo.com in its entirety, including my name and email addy. I would do it myself but don't get over there often with other responsibilities. This is too important to miss.

I am moderator of ER4YTtypeA (formerly A2), ER4YTtypeO, Live-Right, CookRight, and ER4YT-B lists.

In our discussions on the Live-Right lists, the following has come to light:

1) That the home blood testing kits are inaccurate in most cases

2) That saliva test kit secretor test results are not agreeing with blood test results from the sdale lab for the complete serotype panels

3) That kits which are ordered from NAP are arriving with parts missing or supplements missing

4) That results of secretor tests, in addition to being inaccurate and not agreeing with those of the sdale lab, are delayed for months or even lost altogether, forcing others to send away for other tests.

5) That the ABO Rh which comes back on the test cards often does not agree with the ABO Rh run in a lab setting (Red Cross, Hospital, or sdale Lab, for instance).

6) That, generally speaking, the customer service from North American Pharmacal (NAP) is, to put it too kindly, somewhat less than stellar.

Send all responses, no later than Tues 5/28/01, to Heidi Merritt, at SouthLodge@... and she will forward the info to Dr. D.

ORIGINAL MESSAGE WITH DIRECTIONS FOLLOWS:

Dear folks!  I am really upset that you have gone through these frustrating and expensive difficulties.

What I will do is speak to about this early next week.  The date is up to him, but I will seek a commitment from him and/or Martha to investigate and report upon the Great Smokies test reliability in relation to the problems people are experiencing.  I'll also ask them to respond on NAP's customer service and packaging performance.

Tabitha:  To these ends, please to post a request that anyone who has had a conflicting GS/SWMC blood type or secretor status result, or any persistent difficulty with NAP, to _email me_ with as many or few details as they care to give.  And please *ask your fellow ER/LR listowners to do the same.*  No names are necessary, and I won't be naming people to him, I just want to hear how widespread the problems are and where they lie, so I can approach with as much info as I can get.  If there are any participants who do not want to contact me directly, just anonymize & harvest their comments and dump them to my address.

Please just ask that everyone respond to this email address no later than this coming Tuesday, May 28.

I appreciate your concerns, I'll do everything I can to clear this up.

best regards,

^heidi^

>===== Original Message From TabMTBC@... =====

>Heidi,

>Since you have Dr. D's ear and I don't, I have an urgent message to be

>relayed to him.

>

>I am one of the moderators of the new Live-Right-4-Your-Type list on

>groups.

>

>As you might expect, a large number of our discussions center around secretor

>typing, blood typing, the saliva tests, etc. etc.

>

>Well I suppose you know about the lab in sdale affiliated with the

>naturopathic school where Dr. D has given permission for people to have their

>complete blood panel done (all the serotypes and subtypes) and personal food

>lists made.

>

>Well a lot of people who used the home blood typing cards are, of course, now

>being typed again through the lab.  A lot of people who used the saliva

>secretor tests are also being typed again through the serotype panel from

>sdale.

>

>THE PROBLEM:  WE HAVE RECEIVED MANY MANY POSTS FROM PEOPLE SAYING that they

>typed one way with ABO Rh on the home blood typing card and another way with

>the sdale Lab.  , the lab lord at the sdale lab, is

>rerunning the tests again to make sure that his results are correct and it

>turns out over 95% of the time that the blood typing home cards ARE WRONG.

> (tenzin@...) the listowner of the Live-Right list, fell

>victim to this.  She turned out to be A+ after years of thinking she was A-.

>

>NOW WE ARE RECEIVING NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS AND QUESTIONS ONLIST of persons who

>are saying that they typed one way for secretor using the saliva home test

>kits AND HAVE THE OPPOSITE SECRETOR STATUS WHEN THEY HAVE DONE THE SEROTYPE

>PANELS FROM THE LAB IN SCOTTSDALE.  Once again, the tests are being rerun,

>only to find, over 90% of the time, that the secretor result was actually

>OPPOSITE when using the serotype blood panel from the sdale lab, of what

>the person was told it was when using the home saliva kits.

>

>I and others are very concerned about this.  After all, how accurate can the

>blood type diet be if people's blood types and secretor status info are

>coming out INCORRECTLY.  They won't be feeling the full effects.  This has

>happened enough times that and I are very concerned that Dr.

>D'Adamo's reputation and name will be damaged and inaccurate outcomes will

>start to circle the rounds, making it appear that blood type theory is "bunk"

>when we, the converted, know that it is definitely not.

>

>This is an urgent enough matter that I feel contacting Dr. D directly ASAP is

>warranted, if you possibly can.  The other thing is, we are getting MANY

>REPORTS of people's saliva tests getting lost when they mail them away for

>the results and people having to wait 3-6 months for results, only to find

>out later through the sdale lab that the results are inaccurate.

>

>Please will you pass this info to Dr. D'Adamo ASAP, and let us know what he

>says?

>

>Below is a post from one of the affected persons, which appeared on our list..

> Feel

>free to email and myself ASAP regarding this matter.

>

>ORIGINAL POST FROM A LISTMEMBER:

>As I said in my post to the B list, the NC lab that did the test, warns that

>we be careful not to "strain" to produce saliva as that can cause blood to

>get into the specimen.  So, I am wondering if there is some scant,

>non-visible to the eye, traces of blood from the gums that can get into the

>saliva and cause a "false" positive. I was as careful as I could be to not

>make that happen, soooooo? How could I be secretor on saliva and nonsecretor

>on blood and WHAT IF I HAD NEVER HAD BLOODWORK DONE?  I would be eating the

>wrong plan (EMPHASIS MINE, T. S.)

>

>TABITHA'S RESPONSE:

>There is also the possibility of a lab error on your saliva specimen or the

>bloodwork, which is why I think offered to redo your bloodwork

>results.  When I was pregnant with first dd, they tried to convince me that

>she would have Down Syndrome.  Long story short, it turned out that the nurse

>who sent my blood specimen to the lab FILLED OUT THE PAPERWORK WRONG and

>since the lab has no choice but to operate with the info they are given, my

>test results were incorrect.

>

>I have also heard many stories on all lists of people's saliva samples

>getting lost, results not posted, and they are just "sorry out of luck" and

>have to do another test.  I wonder if Dr. D knows these things, about the

>home blood kits, and now the saliva kits?  Seems to me he needs to know,

>after all these people are carrying his name forward in public.

>

>TABITHA SCHAFFER, TabMTBC@...

>See my listings at http://www.amazon.com/shops/mls1

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> In our discussions on the Live-Right lists, the following has come

> to light:

> 1) That the home blood testing kits are inaccurate in most cases

Please could you explain further as the only discrepancies I have

read about are related to the the Rh factor and not to the blood type

itself. If this is the case then the home blood test kits are not

completely inaccurate. For the ER4YT diet the Rh factor was not a

contributer to food lists in the same way as it is in the LR4YT

diet. Perhaps you would be so kind as to clear up any confusion your

statement might make.

> 2) That saliva test kit secretor test results are not agreeing with

> blood test results from the sdale lab for the complete

> serotype panels

This on the other hand for people wanting to follow the LR4YT diet is

more serious and needs to be sorted out. How many cases are there

with this discrepancy? As far as I have read only one case has come

to light and while that is really one to many lets not be hasty in

making the assumption that all tests are incorrect.

> 3) That kits which are ordered from NAP are arriving with parts

> missing or supplements missing

Again how many instances are we talking about? I have only seen one

mentioned and admittedly this is also one too many, humans do make

mistakes and errors do occur.

> 5) That the ABO Rh which comes back on the test cards often does

> not agree with the ABO Rh run in a lab setting (Red Cross,

> Hospital, or sdale Lab, for instance).

See reply to item 1)

> 6) That, generally speaking, the customer service from North

> American Pharmacal (NAP) is, to put it too kindly, somewhat less

> than stellar.

??? In whose opinion ???

I have never had a problem with NAP and their service has always been

efficient, accurate and dealt with in a kindly way. Admittedly this

might not be the same for everyone but I have seen few if any posts

about NAP's poor service on any of the lists I subscribe to.

> Tabitha:  To these ends, please to post a request that anyone

> who has had a conflicting GS/SWMC blood type or secretor status

> result, or any persistent difficulty with NAP, to _email me_ with

> as many or few details as they care to give.  And please *ask

your

> fellow ER/LR listowners to do the same.*

Ahhh.... so what your post is or should have been is a request for

information from people who have had problems with their blood/saliva

test results or with NAP's service to email Heidi Merritt at

SouthLodge@...

LnL,

Steve - Cheltenham, UK