Good Luck Judy

[Guest guest]

Judy,

Good luck at the doctor's today. I hope everything is healing nicely. I

believe as the surgical area heals, there is no more draining. The body can

handle reabsorbing a certain amount of draining, but when it is excessive, such

as with surgery, a drain is necessary. As the area heals, the drainage

decreases.

I hope each day brings you less pain.

a

----- Original Message -----

From: JHend65291@...

Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 8:22 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] - Shy ??????/Kathy

OOPs .darn computer...just listening to the news this morning. East coast

getting rain/snow...storm over north Florida too? Tornadoes? Oh well, here in

Phx we have warm (77) coming . I go to surgeon today and should get rest of

my staples out and the drain. It hasnt been that bad except I get a burn

that really hurts every few hours under the drain...things are healing...and

I do wonder where all the stuff coming out is going to go once they pull

it........but I will admit I feel so much better than b4 so I guess I was

having pain from the hernias and just didnt know the difference(hey, i

generally have pain every day, I just dont sit down and try to figure out

where it all comes from...pain is pain....worst days, I just take the pain

meds and stay close to home and bed, isnt that what most of us do?)Anyway , I

hope everyone else is feeling better and on the road to recovery.

Later...........Judy in AZ

[Guest guest]

a, I have only read your mail from yesterday...here is why......I went to

dr and PAremoved other staples and had to leave drain as I was still putting

out way too much gunk..she had to put stitch backin by drain to hold it...ok

...I went and gave my dtr back her car..came home, took off clothes, went to

bathroom to pee. I thought I'll check on drain now, felt wetness on front of

underwear, touched my abdomen, I was BLEEDING ...alot.I went to grab phone

and call dr to see about going back 6o them, and there was big puddle of

blood on floor, panicked called my dtr to come back to house .....she said to

call 911....having gone thru a split incisionfrom a csect 20 yrs ago...I said

no, I already called dr and they want me to come back....Well, my 15yr old

son comeshome here , poor boy , I tried to warn him not to come into bdrm and

why , he looks at my stomach and sees blood, he tries to calm me by making me

lie down,take deep breaths,and he called his sister(who was still 20 min a

way,) so he called 911......MY whole incision is open, I got to ride in the

ambulance ,(darn cute EMTS in PHX)and then they called my dr and because it

is 10 days past surgery, wet packed me,and sent me home with demoral. I have

to into dr this am to have it looked at and redone. I have to have home nurse

come 2x a day to change and repack it...it will be left to heal naturally

from inside out. I am furious as this is exactly why I didnt want to have

this surgery w/o someone taking lots of precautions.......I had my kids c

sect(up and down incision from naval to pubis)and with dtr (20 yrs ago) it

burst at 6 days.and they left it open to drain and irrigated it 2x a day and

finally healed leaving me with second bellybutton scatr above my pubis. So

when I had my son 4 yrs later they cleaned up scar tissue, and kept me in

hospital almost a week watching for infections and all. Now in both of these

times they gave me Montgomery straps(wonderful invention) and I asked this

time if they would give me some ...no, didnt think I needed them.....well,

in the ER the nurse and dr wanted to do them and my dr says no....so here I

am wetpacked tightly....anyway I am on Kflex too for another week......so

needless to say in my house things are now a bit flipped upside down. My poor

son (he's only 15 and tries so hard to be a man) sat down after we got home

and cried...he was so scared when he saw my stomach and he felt so helpless

cos he couldnt do anything......I tried to tell him I was so grateful it was

him in door b4 his sister(she cant even handle her own menstrual period...no

lie)...and that he couldnt have done better if he tried...he just needed to

let it out...anyway he was making jokes to nurse at hospital about how well

he knew his mother inside and out...LOL...so I will most likely not be back

on here for a bit...but I am ok .....just pissed at dr for this happening cos

he would have listened to me and done a lil prevention work.....but hey I

got me some good demerol now......See ya later..Judy in AZ

[Guest guest]

judy i am so sorry you are having problems, enjoy the demerol and get better

soon!!!

kathy

[Guest guest]

Judy: Thank God you are okay. You must be so proud of your son. I know it

had to be scary for you. Take care of yourself and I will keep you in my

thoughts and prayers.

Blessings,

Jan

[Guest guest]

Judy, my dear woman! THAT is a scary story. I'm am really sorry that you and

your kids went through all of that and that your doctor didn't listen to

what you wanted to do to in the first place in order to prevent this kind of

thing from occurring.

Please rest and check in when you are feeling well enough to do so. My

candle is still going today, and I have you and your children, especially

your son, in mind.

----- Original Message -----

From: <JHend65291@...>

< >

Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 7:03 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Good Luck Judy

> a, I have only read your mail from yesterday...here is why......I went

to

> dr and PAremoved other staples and had to leave drain as I was still

putting

> out way too much gunk..she had to put stitch backin by drain to hold

it...ok

> ...I went and gave my dtr back her car..came home, took off clothes, went

to

> bathroom to pee. I thought I'll check on drain now, felt wetness on front

of

> underwear, touched my abdomen, I was BLEEDING ...alot.I went to grab phone

> and call dr to see about going back 6o them, and there was big puddle of

> blood on floor, panicked called my dtr to come back to house .....she said

to

> call 911....having gone thru a split incisionfrom a csect 20 yrs ago...I

said

> no, I already called dr and they want me to come back....Well, my 15yr old

> son comeshome here , poor boy , I tried to warn him not to come into bdrm

and

> why , he looks at my stomach and sees blood, he tries to calm me by making

me

> lie down,take deep breaths,and he called his sister(who was still 20 min a

> way,) so he called 911......MY whole incision is open, I got to ride in

the

> ambulance ,(darn cute EMTS in PHX)and then they called my dr and because

it

> is 10 days past surgery, wet packed me,and sent me home with demoral. I

have

> to into dr this am to have it looked at and redone. I have to have home

nurse

> come 2x a day to change and repack it...it will be left to heal naturally

> from inside out. I am furious as this is exactly why I didnt want to have

> this surgery w/o someone taking lots of precautions.......I had my kids c

> sect(up and down incision from naval to pubis)and with dtr (20 yrs ago) it

> burst at 6 days.and they left it open to drain and irrigated it 2x a day

and

> finally healed leaving me with second bellybutton scatr above my pubis. So

> when I had my son 4 yrs later they cleaned up scar tissue, and kept me in

> hospital almost a week watching for infections and all. Now in both of

these

> times they gave me Montgomery straps(wonderful invention) and I asked this

> time if they would give me some ...no, didnt think I needed

them.....well,

> in the ER the nurse and dr wanted to do them and my dr says no....so here

I

> am wetpacked tightly....anyway I am on Kflex too for another week......so

> needless to say in my house things are now a bit flipped upside down. My

poor

> son (he's only 15 and tries so hard to be a man) sat down after we got

home

> and cried...he was so scared when he saw my stomach and he felt so

helpless

> cos he couldnt do anything......I tried to tell him I was so grateful it

was

> him in door b4 his sister(she cant even handle her own menstrual

period...no

> lie)...and that he couldnt have done better if he tried...he just needed

to

> let it out...anyway he was making jokes to nurse at hospital about how

well

> he knew his mother inside and out...LOL...so I will most likely not be

back

> on here for a bit...but I am ok .....just pissed at dr for this happening

cos

> he would have listened to me and done a lil prevention work.....but hey I

> got me some good demerol now......See ya later..Judy in AZ

[Guest guest]

Judy,

This is awful. I don't understand why your doctor didn't listen to you. Don't

they realize that we know our body better than they give us credit for? With

your past history, every precaution should have been taken. I am so sorry this

happened to you. I'm sorry your son had to witness it, but glad he was there to

help you. Please get lots of rest so that you will heal.

a

----- Original Message -----

From: JHend65291@...

Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 8:03 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Good Luck Judy

a, I have only read your mail from yesterday...here is why......I went to

dr and PAremoved other staples and had to leave drain as I was still putting

out way too much gunk..she had to put stitch backin by drain to hold it...ok

...I went and gave my dtr back her car..came home, took off clothes, went to

bathroom to pee. I thought I'll check on drain now, felt wetness on front of

underwear, touched my abdomen, I was BLEEDING ...alot.I went to grab phone

and call dr to see about going back 6o them, and there was big puddle of

blood on floor, panicked called my dtr to come back to house .....she said to

call 911....having gone thru a split incisionfrom a csect 20 yrs ago...I said

no, I already called dr and they want me to come back....Well, my 15yr old

son comeshome here , poor boy , I tried to warn him not to come into bdrm and

why , he looks at my stomach and sees blood, he tries to calm me by making me

lie down,take deep breaths,and he called his sister(who was still 20 min a

way,) so he called 911......MY whole incision is open, I got to ride in the

ambulance ,(darn cute EMTS in PHX)and then they called my dr and because it

is 10 days past surgery, wet packed me,and sent me home with demoral. I have

to into dr this am to have it looked at and redone. I have to have home nurse

come 2x a day to change and repack it...it will be left to heal naturally

from inside out. I am furious as this is exactly why I didnt want to have

this surgery w/o someone taking lots of precautions.......I had my kids c

sect(up and down incision from naval to pubis)and with dtr (20 yrs ago) it

burst at 6 days.and they left it open to drain and irrigated it 2x a day and

finally healed leaving me with second bellybutton scatr above my pubis. So

when I had my son 4 yrs later they cleaned up scar tissue, and kept me in

hospital almost a week watching for infections and all. Now in both of these

times they gave me Montgomery straps(wonderful invention) and I asked this

time if they would give me some ...no, didnt think I needed them.....well,

in the ER the nurse and dr wanted to do them and my dr says no....so here I

am wetpacked tightly....anyway I am on Kflex too for another week......so

needless to say in my house things are now a bit flipped upside down. My poor

son (he's only 15 and tries so hard to be a man) sat down after we got home

and cried...he was so scared when he saw my stomach and he felt so helpless

cos he couldnt do anything......I tried to tell him I was so grateful it was

him in door b4 his sister(she cant even handle her own menstrual period...no

lie)...and that he couldnt have done better if he tried...he just needed to

let it out...anyway he was making jokes to nurse at hospital about how well

he knew his mother inside and out...LOL...so I will most likely not be back

on here for a bit...but I am ok .....just pissed at dr for this happening cos

he would have listened to me and done a lil prevention work.....but hey I

got me some good demerol now......See ya later..Judy in AZ

[Guest guest]

HI all, I am doing a lot better.My son insisted on staying home from school

till I got something done to my incision. My friend took me to dr at 1030 and

I went in walking very slowly with a pillow fopr support ...dont think I

helped the drs image much ....anyway , he was in there and he looked at it

and said it was all nice and moist in there all the way down and so he re

stitched me (no staples, thank god).and said I could just clean it 2x a day

with peroxide and neosporin it and lightly gauze it. He was concerned that he

wasnt notified ...and I think he felt bad that he hadnt done more to prevent

the problem...so I am on antibiotics and demerol still. Anyway, I got home

and could move so much better ...my son looked at the dressing and was much

happier with me. I think he has a whole new appreciation for paramedics and

firemen, and really hates drs that dont listen. I was to point b4 I went in

that if he was going to make me keep it in wet packs and have have to let it

heal naturally I was seriously looking at some lawyers ...I told him of my

past and he knew he'd been warned. and I told him how it scared my son to

death...he did apoligize for the trouble I had ...so now I go back on Monday

so he can see again how it all does ...and wants to keep a closer eye on it.

So I have been good...staying in bed lying down ...so the stitches will

" catch " well ...and the home nurse called and was going to come over

yesterday PM and I told her he had resewn it and told me I didnt need her

....she was so nice and gave me her number and said if I needed her at all to

call as I had been approved already and she could come anyway....so I may

have her check it out today or tomorrow ..but she said she was glad they

managed to stitch it up ...cos it was a huge hole to try to heal from inside

out from what they had faxed her. I think it will be fine now(I hope so) and

my son is much happier ....he is such a good kid.....I feel bad about his

having to go through all of this. ..Thanks for all your prayers and letters

of encouragement. Oh and Debs , I am glad u rescheduled your knee surgery. It

will be better than it is now ....And so I must go and try to get back to

sleep ...you all behave now.....Judy in AZ

[Guest guest]

Good news, Judy! I'm so relieved to hear that you are stitched up and

resting comfortably. Your son is so sweet to be so concerned. The doctor

sounded contrite enough, so I guess I'll forgive him. Lucky you to be

assigned such a nice nurse. Hope you take her up on her offer.

I'm not sure that I will behave today. It's Green Beer Day. Just remember

that it was Kathy's idea.

----- Original Message -----

From: <JHend65291@...>

< >

Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 3:30 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Good Luck Judy

> HI all, I am doing a lot better.My son insisted on staying home from

school

> till I got something done to my incision. My friend took me to dr at 1030

and

> I went in walking very slowly with a pillow fopr support ...dont think I

> helped the drs image much ....anyway , he was in there and he looked at it

> and said it was all nice and moist in there all the way down and so he re

> stitched me (no staples, thank god).and said I could just clean it 2x a

day

> with peroxide and neosporin it and lightly gauze it. He was concerned that

he

> wasnt notified ...and I think he felt bad that he hadnt done more to

prevent

> the problem...so I am on antibiotics and demerol still. Anyway, I got home

> and could move so much better ...my son looked at the dressing and was

much

> happier with me. I think he has a whole new appreciation for paramedics

and

> firemen, and really hates drs that dont listen. I was to point b4 I went

in

> that if he was going to make me keep it in wet packs and have have to let

it

> heal naturally I was seriously looking at some lawyers ...I told him of my

> past and he knew he'd been warned. and I told him how it scared my son to

> death...he did apoligize for the trouble I had ...so now I go back on

Monday

> so he can see again how it all does ...and wants to keep a closer eye on

it.

> So I have been good...staying in bed lying down ...so the stitches will

> " catch " well ...and the home nurse called and was going to come over

> yesterday PM and I told her he had resewn it and told me I didnt need her

> ...she was so nice and gave me her number and said if I needed her at all

to

> call as I had been approved already and she could come anyway....so I may

> have her check it out today or tomorrow ..but she said she was glad they

> managed to stitch it up ...cos it was a huge hole to try to heal from

inside

> out from what they had faxed her. I think it will be fine now(I hope so)

and

> my son is much happier ....he is such a good kid.....I feel bad about his

> having to go through all of this. ..Thanks for all your prayers and

letters

> of encouragement. Oh and Debs , I am glad u rescheduled your knee surgery.

It

> will be better than it is now ....And so I must go and try to get back to

> sleep ...you all behave now.....Judy in AZ