Re: 400 Chinese students hospitalized with unknown flu,only several dozens remained hospitalised

[Guest guest]

I just read a research paper on the avian flu forum which indicated that

the 1918 flu was preceded by an increased number of mumps and measles,

then by a very mild wave of what they called the " 3 day flu " , which had

a very low mortality rate.-I hope this is not something similar.

I will get the link to the story later.

fairpc wrote:

>AFX News Limited

>400 Chinese students hospitalized with unknown flu

>04.02.2006, 08:52 AM

>

>BEIJING (AFX) - Over 400 students at a university in central China's

>Henan province were hospitalized with high fevers linked to an unknown

>flu virus, state press and a school official said.

>

>The outbreak began on March 26 when 22 students were hospitalized with

>high fevers, Xinhua news agency said.

>

>The next day the number of sick students at the Henan University of

>Science and Technology in Luoyang city rose to 88, and on March 28 there

>were 208 sick students in the university's infirmary, it said.

>

>'There were over 400 students that became feverish with the flu,' a

>university official who declined to be named told Agence France-Presse

>when contacted by phone.

>

>He refused to detail what type of flu it was or how the outbreak had

>succeeded in infecting so many students.

>

>Local health officials were currently trying to identify the flu strain,

>Xinhua said.

>

>The temperatures of some of the students reached 39.6 degrees celsius,

>it said.

>

>The sick students were quarantined while school officials, under

>directions from provincial health authorities, cancelled classes and

>began disinfecting the university's 2,000 dormitory rooms, dining halls

>and classrooms, it said.

>

>Most students were only hospitalized for about three days and released,

>the report said, adding that only several dozen students remained

>hospitalized as of today.

>

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[Guest guest]

ok here ist the link.What do you all think?

http://www.ku.edu/carrie/specoll/medical/parsons.htm

Elke wrote:

I just read a research paper on the avian flu forum which indicated that the 1918 flu was preceded by an increased number of mumps and measles, then by a very mild wave of what they called the "3 day flu", which had a very low mortality rate.-I hope this is not something similar.

I will get the link to the story later.

fairpc wrote:

AFX News Limited

400 Chinese students hospitalized with unknown flu

04.02.2006, 08:52 AM

BEIJING (AFX) - Over 400 students at a university in central China's Henan province were hospitalized with high fevers linked to an unknown flu virus, state press and a school official said.

The outbreak began on March 26 when 22 students were hospitalized with high fevers, Xinhua news agency said.

The next day the number of sick students at the Henan University of Science and Technology in Luoyang city rose to 88, and on March 28 there were 208 sick students in the university's infirmary, it said.

'There were over 400 students that became feverish with the flu,' a university official who declined to be named told Agence France-Presse when contacted by phone.

He refused to detail what type of flu it was or how the outbreak had succeeded in infecting so many students.

Local health officials were currently trying to identify the flu strain, Xinhua said.

The temperatures of some of the students reached 39.6 degrees celsius, it said.

The sick students were quarantined while school officials, under directions from provincial health authorities, cancelled classes and began disinfecting the university's 2,000 dormitory rooms, dining halls and classrooms, it said.

Most students were only hospitalized for about three days and released, the report said, adding that only several dozen students remained hospitalized as of today.

[Guest guest]

That's a paper that I'll want to read. Please do send the link as

soon as you are able.

Kathy in FL

>

> >AFX News Limited

> >400 Chinese students hospitalized with unknown flu

> >04.02.2006, 08:52 AM

> >

> >BEIJING (AFX) - Over 400 students at a university in central

China's

> >Henan province were hospitalized with high fevers linked to an

[Guest guest]

First I've heard of this, thanks.

I suppose they shall say it's nothing to do with Avian flu, or that

particular disease cannot be spread by coughs and sneezes, even

though that is how it spread in the 1918/19 outbreak. Someone will

say that those people in 1918 caught it from kissing or whatever...

>

> AFX News Limited

> 400 Chinese students hospitalized with unknown flu

> 04.02.2006, 08:52 AM

>

> BEIJING (AFX) - Over 400 students at a university in central

China's

> Henan province were hospitalized with high fevers linked to an

unknown

> flu virus, state press and a school official said.

>

> The outbreak began on March 26 when 22 students were hospitalized

with

> high fevers, Xinhua news agency said.

>

> The next day the number of sick students at the Henan University

of

> Science and Technology in Luoyang city rose to 88, and on March 28

there

> were 208 sick students in the university's infirmary, it said.

>

> 'There were over 400 students that became feverish with the flu,'

a

> university official who declined to be named told Agence France-

Presse

> when contacted by phone.

>

> He refused to detail what type of flu it was or how the outbreak

had

> succeeded in infecting so many students.

>

> Local health officials were currently trying to identify the flu

strain,

> Xinhua said.

>

> The temperatures of some of the students reached 39.6 degrees

celsius,

> it said.

>

> The sick students were quarantined while school officials, under

> directions from provincial health authorities, cancelled classes

and

> began disinfecting the university's 2,000 dormitory rooms, dining

halls

> and classrooms, it said.

>

> Most students were only hospitalized for about three days and

released,

> the report said, adding that only several dozen students remained

> hospitalized as of today.

>

[Guest guest]

My first question would be: Where were all these 400 people to become infected with H5N1? And we don't even know that they became infected with that particular strain of flu, or any strain of avian flu. It's not uncommon for a new human flu to erupt so dramatically. Elke <avalon@...> wrote: ok here ist the link.What do you all think?http://www.ku.edu/carrie/specoll/medical/parsons.htmElke wrote: I just read a research paper on the avian flu forum which indicated that the 1918 flu was preceded by an increased number of mumps and measles, then by a very mild wave of what they called the "3 day flu", which had a very low mortality

rate.-I hope this is not something similar. I will get the link to the story later. fairpc wrote: AFX News Limited 400 Chinese students hospitalized with unknown flu 04.02.2006, 08:52 AM BEIJING (AFX) - Over 400 students at a university in central China's Henan province were hospitalized with high fevers linked to an unknown flu virus, state press and a school official said. The outbreak began on March 26 when 22 students were hospitalized with high fevers, Xinhua news agency said. The next day the number of sick students at the Henan University of Science and Technology in Luoyang city rose to 88, and on March 28 there were 208 sick students in the university's infirmary, it said. 'There were over 400 students that became feverish with the flu,' a university official who declined to be named told Agence France-Presse when contacted by phone. He refused to detail what type of flu it was

or how the outbreak had succeeded in infecting so many students. Local health officials were currently trying to identify the flu strain, Xinhua said. The temperatures of some of the students reached 39.6 degrees celsius, it said. The sick students were quarantined while school officials, under directions from provincial health authorities, cancelled classes and began disinfecting the university's 2,000 dormitory rooms, dining halls and classrooms, it said. Most students were only hospitalized for about three days and released, the report said, adding that only several dozen students remained hospitalized as of today.

[Guest guest]

Another angle on research studies: who is funding the study?MsTigerHawk <tigerhawksoars@...> wrote: There's a large increase of mumps in Iowa, which has moved into Nebraska now, but since the bird flu is not in the United States yet, I doubt very much if it is a precursor to bird flu. One must watch these research studies. Who is doing the research? How many people are subjects? What kind of data is used? Who is analyzing the data? After all, one could say that over 90% of people who get a particular disease drink milk. Does that mean that milk is a cause? Of course not. (This is just an analogy.) Colleen > > >AFX News Limited> >400 Chinese students hospitalized with unknown flu> >04.02.2006, 08:52 AM> > > >BEIJING (AFX) - Over 400 students at a university in central China's > >Henan province were hospitalized with high fevers linked to an ********************************************************** Don't miss this website

if you like to read. . Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. -Dr.Seuss . It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing. - Duke

Ellington . Never place a period where God has placed a comma. - Gracie

[Guest guest]

Yes, that's very important to look at as well. Does the entity funding it have any unterior motives? Such as greed? Would that make the study biased? All good questions. Colleen <rboylern@...> wrote: Another angle on research studies: who is funding the study?MsTigerHawk <tigerhawksoars@...> wrote: There's a large increase of mumps in Iowa, which has moved into Nebraska now, but since the bird flu is not in the United States yet, I doubt very much if it is a precursor to bird flu. One must watch these research studies. Who is doing the research? How many people are subjects? What kind of data is

used? Who is analyzing the data? After all, one could say that over 90% of people who get a particular disease drink milk. Does that mean that milk is a cause? Of course not. (This is just an analogy.) Colleen > > >AFX News Limited> >400 Chinese students hospitalized with unknown flu> >04.02.2006,

08:52 AM> > > >BEIJING (AFX) - Over 400 students at a university in central China's > >Henan province were hospitalized with high fevers linked to an ********************************************************** Don't miss this website if you like to read. . Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. -Dr.Seuss . It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing. - Duke Ellington . Never

place a period where God has placed a comma. - Gracie ********************************************************** Don't miss this website if you like to read.

[Guest guest]

Various governments are well aware that viruses are easily spread through coughing and sneezing. We were just reminded yesterday at the First Monday meeting to cover our mouths when we sneeze or cough. Do it into a tissue, or lacking that, do it into your sleeve. Colleen Mike <mikesey_97@...> wrote: First I've heard of this, thanks.I suppose they shall say it's nothing to do with Avian flu, or that particular disease cannot be spread by coughs and sneezes, even though that is how it spread in the 1918/19 outbreak. Someone will say that those people in 1918 caught it from kissing or whatever...********************************************************** Don't miss this website if you like to read.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

We don't know what type of disease this is. But these are the kinds of

situations WHO isloking for as a sign the pandemic has started. There

have been many stories like these the last several weeks from China and

India. There was also an outbreak of unexplained pneumonia in several

eastern europaen countries, all of which have H5N1 in birds.

wrote:

My first question would be: Where were all these 400 people to become

infected with H5N1? And we don't even know that they became infected

with that particular strain of flu, or any strain of avian flu. It's

not uncommon for a new human flu to erupt so dramatically.

Elke <avalon@...> wrote:

ok

here ist the link.What do you all think?

http://www.ku.edu/carrie/specoll/medical/parsons.htm

Elke wrote:

I just read a research paper on the avian flu forum which indicated that the 1918 flu was preceded by an increased number of mumps and measles, then by a very mild wave of what they called the "3 day flu", which had a very low mortality

rate.-I hope this is not something similar. I will get the link to the story later. fairpc wrote:

AFX News Limited 400 Chinese students hospitalized with unknown flu 04.02.2006, 08:52 AM BEIJING (AFX) - Over 400 students at a university in central China's Henan province were hospitalized with high fevers linked to an unknown flu virus, state press and a school official said. The outbreak began on March 26 when 22 students were hospitalized with high fevers, Xinhua news agency said. The next day the number of sick students at the Henan University of Science and Technology in Luoyang city rose to 88, and on March 28 there were 208 sick students in the university's infirmary, it said. 'There were over 400 students that became feverish with the flu,' a university official who declined to be named told Agence France-Presse when contacted by phone. He refused to detail what type of flu it was

or how the outbreak had succeeded in infecting so many students. Local health officials were currently trying to identify the flu strain, Xinhua said. The temperatures of some of the students reached 39.6 degrees celsius, it said. The sick students were quarantined while school officials, under directions from provincial health authorities, cancelled classes and began disinfecting the university's 2,000 dormitory rooms, dining halls and classrooms, it said. Most students were only hospitalized for about three days and released, the report said, adding that only several dozen students remained hospitalized as of today.

[Guest guest]

Here's an update on the situation at the Chinese university.

http://www.solviolence.org/avian-influenza-bird-flu-news11.htm

Elke wrote:

Hi ,

We don't know what type of disease this is. But these are the kinds of

situations WHO isloking for as a sign the pandemic has started. There

have been many stories like these the last several weeks from China and

India. There was also an outbreak of unexplained pneumonia in several

eastern europaen countries, all of which have H5N1 in birds.

wrote:

My first question would be: Where were all these 400 people to become

infected with H5N1? And we don't even know that they became infected

with that particular strain of flu, or any strain of avian flu. It's

not uncommon for a new human flu to erupt so dramatically.

Elke <avalon@...>

wrote:

ok

here ist the link.What do you all think?

http://www.ku.edu/carrie/specoll/medical/parsons.htm

Elke wrote:

I just read a research paper on the avian flu forum which indicated that the 1918 flu was preceded by an increased number of mumps and measles, then by a very mild wave of what they called the "3 day flu", which had a very low mortality

rate.-I hope this is not something similar. I will get the link to the story later. fairpc wrote:

AFX News Limited 400 Chinese students hospitalized with unknown flu 04.02.2006, 08:52 AM BEIJING (AFX) - Over 400 students at a university in central China's Henan province were hospitalized with high fevers linked to an unknown flu virus, state press and a school official said. The outbreak began on March 26 when 22 students were hospitalized with high fevers, Xinhua news agency said. The next day the number of sick students at the Henan University of Science and Technology in Luoyang city rose to 88, and on March 28 there were 208 sick students in the university's infirmary, it said. 'There were over 400 students that became feverish with the flu,' a university official who declined to be named told Agence France-Presse when contacted by phone. He refused to detail what type of flu it was

or how the outbreak had succeeded in infecting so many students. Local health officials were currently trying to identify the flu strain, Xinhua said. The temperatures of some of the students reached 39.6 degrees celsius, it said. The sick students were quarantined while school officials, under directions from provincial health authorities, cancelled classes and began disinfecting the university's 2,000 dormitory rooms, dining halls and classrooms, it said. Most students were only hospitalized for about three days and released, the report said, adding that only several dozen students remained hospitalized as of today.

[Guest guest]

> > Hi ,

> > We don't know what type of disease this is. But these are the

kinds of

> > situations WHO isloking for as a sign the pandemic has started.

There

> > have been many stories like these the last several weeks from

China

> > and India. There was also an outbreak of unexplained pneumonia in

> > several eastern europaen countries, all of which have H5N1 in

birds.

I am in no way an expert, but wouldn't the fact that no one died lead

you to believe that this would be unrelated to H51N?

Debbie

[Guest guest]

If you look at the case histories ( check WHO website for situation

updates), one a few people die shortly after admission to the

hospital-and that's because they came late. Mostof the victims hang on

for 2-3 weeks. So it's too early to know about this case.

Debbie wrote:

Hi ,

We don't know what type of disease this is. But these are the

kinds of

situations WHO isloking for as a sign the pandemic has started.

There

have been many stories like these the last several weeks from

China

and India. There was also an outbreak of unexplained pneumonia in several eastern europaen countries, all of which have H5N1 in

birds.

I am in no way an expert, but wouldn't the fact that no one died lead you to believe that this would be unrelated to H51N?

Debbie

[Guest guest]

Also, there's the fact that most of the students recovered after a couple of days of treatment. This probably isn't H5N1.Debbie <chimneyman20002000@...> wrote: > > Hi ,> > We don't know what type of disease this is. But these are the kinds of > > situations WHO isloking for as a sign the pandemic has started. There > > have been many stories like these the last several weeks from China > > and India. There was also an outbreak of unexplained pneumonia in > > several eastern europaen countries, all of which have H5N1 in birds.I am in no way an expert, but wouldn't the fact that no one died lead you to believe that this would be unrelated to H51N?Debbie . Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. -Dr.Seuss . It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing. - Duke Ellington . Never place a period where God has placed a comma. - Gracie

[Guest guest]

The other thing to remember is that just because China says they are recovering does NOT mean that they really are.

Re: [Flu] Re: 400 Chinese students hospitalized with unknown flu,only several dozens remained hospitalised

Also, there's the fact that most of the students recovered after a couple of days of treatment. This probably isn't H5N1.Debbie <chimneyman20002000@...> wrote: > > Hi ,> > We don't know what type of disease this is. But these are the kinds of > > situations WHO isloking for as a sign the pandemic has started. There > > have been many stories like these the last several weeks from China > > and India. There was also an outbreak of unexplained pneumonia in > > several eastern europaen countries, all of which have H5N1 in birds.I am in no way an expert, but wouldn't the fact that no one died lead you to believe that this would be unrelated to H51N?Debbie

.. Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. -Dr.Seuss

.. It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing. - Duke Ellington

.. Never place a period where God has placed a comma. - Gracie