Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 These days, all studies should be taken with a grain of salt. Many are not what they appear to be in that authors of studies report what their financial contributors want them to report. For instance, if big pharma funded the vitamin study and big pharma wants to get rid of the vitamin industry, all their studies would report vitamin inadequacies. Also, the quality and absorption of some vitamins are better than others. > > And then there is this: > > Huge study boosts disappointment on multivitamins > By Lindsey Tanner, Ap Medical Writer – Mon Feb 9, 7:48 pm ET > CHICAGO – The largest study ever of multivitamin use in older women > found the pills did nothing to prevent common cancers or heart > disease. The eight-year study in 161,808 postmenopausal women echoes > recent disappointing vitamin studies in men. > > Millions of Americans spend billions of dollars on vitamins to boost > their health. Research has focused on cancer and heart disease in > particular because of evidence that diets full of vitamin-rich foods > may protect against those illnesses. But that evidence doesn't > necessarily mean pills are a good substitute. > > The study's lead author, researcher n Neuhouser of the Fred > Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, offered this advice: > " Get nutrients from food. Whole foods are better than dietary > supplements, " Neuhouser said. > > The study appears in Monday's Archives of Internal Medicine. > > Co-author Dr. JoAnn Manson said despite the disappointing results, the > research doesn't mean multivitamins are useless. > > For one thing, the data are observational, not the most rigorous kind > of scientific research. And also, it's not clear if taking vitamins > might help prevent cancers that take many years to develop, said > Manson, chief of preventive medicine at Harvard's Brigham & Women's > Hospital. > > She said multivitamins may still be useful " as a form of insurance " > for people with poor eating habits. > > The study involved an analysis of data on women in their 50s and up > who participated in long-running government studies on postmenopausal > women. Almost 42 percent of the women said they used multivitamins > regularly. > > After about eight years, roughly equal numbers of vitamin users and > nonusers developed common cancers, heart attacks and other > cardiovascular problems. Overall, there were 9,619 cases of cancer, > including cancers of the breast, lung, ovary, colon and stomach; and > 8,751 cardiovascular ailments including heart attacks and strokes. In > addition, 9,865 women died, also at similar rates in multivitamin > users and nonusers. > > Alice Lichtenstein, a Tufts University nutrition professor who was not > involved in the research, said the study is important because it > involved so many women. > > " All the evidence keeps pointing in the same direction, " Lichtenstein > said. > > s, an American Cancer Society epidemiologist, said while his > group doesn't advise vitamins to prevent cancer, it does recommend > maintaining a healthy weight and eating at least five servings of > fruits and vegetables daily while limiting red meat. Similar habits > are also thought to help reduce heart disease risks. > http://news./s/ap/20090210/ap_on_he_me/med_vitamin_disappointment_7 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Ask your doctor what he/she thinks of supplementation Vitamin D and or sunshine, for the Vitamin D, for the flu. > > Another great cure is The Carbolic Smoke Ball. > From our files: > > Carlill v Carbolic Smoke Ball Company [1893] > 1 QB 256; Court of Appeal, 1892 Dec. 6,7, > LINDLEY, BOWEN and A. L. SMITH, L.JJ. > Appeal from a decision of HAWKINS, J., [1892] 2 Q.B. 484. > > The defendants, who were the proprietors and vendors of a medical preparation called " The Carbolic Smoke Ball, " inserted in the Pall Mall Gazette of November 13, 1891, and in other newspapers, the following advertisement: > > " £100 reward will be paid by the Carbolic Smoke Ball Company to any person who contracts the increasing epidemic influenza, colds or any disease caused by taking cold, after having used the ball three times daily for two weeks according to the printed directions supplied with each ball. £1000 is deposited with the Alliance Bank, Regent Street shewing our sincerity in the matter. > > " During the last epidemic of influenza many thousand carbolic smoke balls were sold as preventives against the disease, and in no ascertained case was the disease contracted by those using the carbolic smoke ball. > > " One carbolic smoke ball will last a family several months, making it the cheapest remedy in the world at the price, lOs., post free. The ball can be refilled at a cost of 5s. Address, Carbolic Smoke Ball. Company, 27, Princes Street, Hanover Square, London. " > > The plaintiff, a lady, on the faith of this advertisement, bought one of the balls at a chemist's and used it as directed, three times a daily from November 20, 1891, to January 17, 1892, when she was attacked by influenza. Hawkins, J., held that she was entitled to recover the £100. The defendants appealed... > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlill_v._Carbolic_Smoke_Ball_Company > > http://www.west.net/~smith/Carlill_v_Carbolic.htm > > http://www.leeds.ac.uk/law/hamlyn/carlill.htm > > This is a famous law case in all contract law casebooks and in the movie entitled The Paper Chase > http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0070509/ > and in the tv series of the same name > http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0077058/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2009 Report Share Posted September 10, 2009 I am sorry, but I have neither the time nor the interest to argue with a pop medicine fanatic. Go join a group of similar fanatics. > > These days, all studies should be taken with a grain of salt. Many are not what they appear to be in that authors of studies report what their financial contributors want them to report. For instance, if big pharma funded the vitamin study and big pharma wants to get rid of the vitamin industry, all their studies would report vitamin inadequacies. > > Also, the quality and absorption of some vitamins are better than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Again ASK YOUR DOCTOR what he/she thinks of Vitamin D from supplements or from the sun as a flu preventative. ASK YOUR DOCTOR. > > > > These days, all studies should be taken with a grain of salt. Many are not what they appear to be in that authors of studies report what their financial contributors want them to report. For instance, if big pharma funded the vitamin study and big pharma wants to get rid of the vitamin industry, all their studies would report vitamin inadequacies. > > > > Also, the quality and absorption of some vitamins are better than others. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Again, if you continue to post pop medicine fanatic nonsense, I shall be forced to ban you from this group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2009 Report Share Posted September 13, 2009 Global swine flu set to explode In the next few months, the world will see massive outbreaks of deadly influenza, as the H1N1 swine flu virus spreads rapidly into every corner of the globe, and national health services must do everything in their power to dampen the coming " explosion " of cases, according to the World Health Organization. Numerous countries likely face a scenario in which the number of swine flu cases will double every three to four days over several months before reaching a peak with the return of cold weather to the northern hemisphere, said WHO's Western Pacific director, Shin Young-soo. " At a certain point, there will seem to be an explosion in case numbers, " Shin told a symposium of health officials and experts in Beijing. " It is certain there will be more cases and more deaths. " ... August 22, 12:38 Jefferson PMSF Health News Examiner http://www.examiner.com/x-8543-SF-Health-News-Examiner~y2009m8d22-Global-swine-f lu-set-to-explode See http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/09/AR2009080902447. html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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