Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 I don't know where they got that children with Down syndrome have good teeth. I've been told since was born (and another reason he's allowed to go to the Army Dental Clinic) that Downs children have terrible teeth, missing some, coming in at the wrong place, shaped different, you name it. ahs really big front top 2, then one big and one little of the next 2 (on the outside of the front 2, making it the front 4). They're miscolored because of the meds he's taken. I think it was just way too much stimulation for him. He wouldn't even tolerate it for a short time and it somehow made him gag, can't figure that one out. Loriann Wife to Dewight Mom to , 10 years, Down Syndrome, Autistic Spectrum Disorder, ADHD, Oppositional Defiant Disorder And , 15 months and Strong Willed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 Aaaaahhhh, the light of understanding dawns. I can see the difference now. Even being out of order and missing, they can still be sound teeth. Actually, I guess that would be the case with , and it's a good thing, too. I'm lucky if I can get him to brush his teeth every other day, sometimes just a couple times a week. After 9 years of having teeth, he just has a couple of " shadows " that they want to put sealant on.... Sorry for the philosophical attitude.....I'm trying to listen for God to give me a prayer focus for my update on our church's Lost People Group for prayer. Loriann Wife to Dewight Mom to , 10 years, Down Syndrome, Autistic Spectrum Disorder, ADHD, Oppositional Defiant Disorder And , 15 months and Strong Willed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 Hi Lori, The dentist we go to said that most people with Down syndrome have good teeth but the gums are the possible weak area to pay certain attention to. She recommended the Braun oral B tooth brush. Ted doesn't care for it as it must tickle or stimulate his mouth too much but he will tolerate for short periods. We do floss everyday and I feel that is a major accomplishment for Ted. We use those new animal flossers. I also never had an electric toothbrush (it came with several heads) and I love it! It has a built in timer and pulses after 2 minutes so it helps me to brush longer. Gail, mom to Ted (9) <<I, on the other hand, loved it. It's the first electric toothbrush I've ever had and I feel like it took off years of plaque. I've NEVER had my teeth cleaned because they've never needed it (except for behind my bottom front teeth, where they've cleaned them once - that's were it got the build up off). Sorry to ramble, it's late (for me - I'm so lucky the kids go to bed between 7:30 and 8:00 because otherwise one of us wouldn't survive very long....... Loriann Wife to Dewight Mom to , 10 years, Down >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 can't rinse his mouth. He tries to spit, but the concept of holding a liquid in his mouth, swishing it around and spitting is just not available for him. He just can't make his mouth do that. Loriann Wife to Dewight Mom to , 10 years, Down Syndrome, Autistic Spectrum Disorder, ADHD, Oppositional Defiant Disorder And , 15 months and Strong Willed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 Hi Loriann, I have heard the same thing as you regarding DS and dental problems. 's teeth are discolored from meds also and he has some really strange shaped teeth as well. His last check-up didn't reveal any cavities, but he had to have a baby tooth pulled to let the permanent tooth come in the right place....now he has two more that we have to have pulled. We can see the permanent tooth coming in behind it. I don't know whether the lack of cavities has anything to do with the fact that doesn't eat anything by mouth (g-tube fed), but his gums are terrible. I have been told that some of the meds (particularly seizure meds) can have that effect. We have to take to Childrens Hospital Dental Clinic for his check-ups and work because they have to sedate him to do anything, even look, otherwise he will bite them! They just don't have a sense of humor about that! Terry Mom to (age 13) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 <<I've been told since was born (and another reason he's allowed to go to the Army Dental Clinic) that Downs children have terrible teeth, missing some, coming in at the wrong place, shaped different, you name it. >> Hi Lori, I believe you are correct on all accounts here. I have heard that also. I meant the actual teeth are strong and usually without decay. I'm not saying this is true for all persons, or that it is even true...but I was told to worry more about the gums than the teeth. Ted was able to recently have an Xray done and there was only one place he moved and she couldn't be sure about the tooth being there as she only saw a blur but said Ted has all his teeth and in the correct places. Gail, mom to Ted (9) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 Loriann, Thought I would jump in here while you all were talking about teeth. Reuben's teeth are strange shaped, too. And some of his permanent teeth have never come in. One dentist said these teeth were probably the only ones he would get. Reuben has always let us brush his teeth. But he just will not spit! He just can't seem to grasp what we mean when we try to show him. Anyone else have this problem? ita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 In a message dated 10/18/00 6:27:20 PM Central Daylight Time, egroups writes: << Reuben has always let us brush his teeth. But he just will not spit! He just can't seem to grasp what we mean when we try to show him. Anyone else have this problem? ita >> Having a child that can't spit is only a problem if you perceive it that way. Just joking, my foster son couldn't spit until he was almost 9. Now I can't get him to stop spitting. It doesn't get that there is a time and a place for it. Well, he may get it but doesn't like it. Karyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 i remember it taking nathan a long time to get but he figured it out, brushing teeth with little brother helped i think, now he spits often and its gross, uuhh, shawna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 you could put them into hot water to desinfect. I've always been wondering, whether the virus could enter through defect teeth ?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Hi , Hydrogen Peroxide is cheap, a good gargle, and you can use it to sterilize your toothbrush. Not sure if any other mouth washes would work as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 I am not sure about defective teeth, but viruses can enter through cuts in your gums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 At what strenth can it be used for gargling for killing germs?Still think keeping toothbrushes separate is the best method combined with the odd sterilisation. Kind Regards _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 The wisest thing would be to keep the toothbrushes separate; and using a guard is a pretty good idea. Germs, viruses included, of course, don't fly through the air, but they can be transmitted by direct contact of one infected object with another. <briantortoise3234@...> wrote: Whenever i go to Spain and forget my toothbrush,i have always bought one with a protective guard over it.My toothbrush is in a tumbler with three other toothbrushes,none of us in England have guards over them.If the toothbrushes are all together is there a larger risk of contracting viruses etc from tooth brushes?In the light of bird flu, i am starting to look at everyday life differently and keep our toothbrushes separate._______________________________________________No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com . Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. -Dr.Seuss . It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing. - Duke Ellington . Never place a period where God has placed a comma. - Gracie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 It's a possibility provided that there's access to the blood stream from the defective tooth. If teeth are in very bad condition there's usually some infection in the gums. The infected area could be a portal of entry for viruses and bacteria.sterten@... wrote: you could put them into hot water to desinfect. I've always been wondering, whether the virus could enter through defect teeth ?! . Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. -Dr.Seuss . It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing. - Duke Ellington . Never place a period where God has placed a comma. - Gracie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Hint: Don't let your toothbrush sit in hydrogen peroxide, otherwise the bristles will start to break down. H2O2 is stronger than people think. Just pour a little in a clean glass and swish the toothbrush around in it for a few seconds then rinse it with running water. Wiping the bristles dry with a clean paper towel will elminate much of the moisture so beloved by germs. Commercial mouthwashes might work just as well, but peroxide is much less expensive and highly effective as an all-around germ killer. H2O2 makes a good inexpensive mouthwash as well. Dilute it down to 50% water, 50% peroxide so as not to irritate the lining of the mouth and throat.Lee <jackalope_lepus@...> wrote: Hi ,Hydrogen Peroxide is cheap, a good gargle, and you can use it to sterilize your toothbrush. Not sure if any other mouth washes would work as well. . Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. -Dr.Seuss . It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing. - Duke Ellington . Never place a period where God has placed a comma. - Gracie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 For disinfecting toothbrushes, use it full strength. For gargle/mouthwash, use it half-strength (50% water, 50% peroxide). <briantortoise3234@...> wrote: At what strenth can it be used for gargling for killing germs?Still think keeping toothbrushes separate is the best method combined with the odd sterilisation.Kind Regards_______________________________________________No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com . Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. -Dr.Seuss . It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing. - Duke Ellington . Never place a period where God has placed a comma. - Gracie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 In einer eMail vom 16.03.2006 21:48:27 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt rboylern@...: It's a possibility provided that there's access to the blood stream from the defective tooth. If teeth are in very bad condition there's usually some infection in the gums. The infected area could be a portal of entry for viruses and bacteria. sounds reasonable. Mammals infect themselves with H5N1 by eating. But does H5N1 survive stomach ? We know, it needs PH5-9, I don't know what's the PH in bird's stomach. So, when it enters by eating, I think it should infect before entering stomach. Can normal flu or common cold be transmitted by eating ? How common is it ? This should have been examined... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 >peroxide is much less expensive and highly effective as an all->around germ killer. H2O2 makes a good inexpensive mouthwash >as well. Dilute it down to 50% water, 50% peroxide so as not >to irritate the lining of the mouth and throat. Thanks for the info but what strenth is the peroxide to start with? Kind Regards _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 peroxide, is it easier/safer than just putting the brushes into a glass with boiling water ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 In einer eMail vom 17.03.2006 05:55:20 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt rboylern@...: If you're going to use boiling water, the best thing to do is to pour the water over the toothbrush as that will help wash away any unfriendly microbes. why ? If they are dead, I won't mind to have them in my mouth . Well, boiling water clearly helps for H5N1, is it also good for flu-viruses ior cold viruses, bacteria etc. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 In einer eMail vom 17.03.2006 07:00:35 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt rboylern@...: Stomach pH is around 2 - highly acidic. However, the virus could enter the body through the numerous microscopic openings in the lining of the mouth and other organs. It, the same as for the common cold and regular flu, could be transmitted by eating if people were sharing forks, spoons and drinking vessels; or if the food was handled by someone who had germs on his/her hands - common problem when people who handle food don't wash their hands properly. the flu-virus however is specialized in binding to lung-cells, I don't know how it does this when it enters through mouth or eyes. This just came up in the virology-forum and I asked there too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Hydrogen Peroxide is 100% to start with. Dilute with 50% water for a cheap mouthwash. >peroxide is much less expensive and highly effective as an all- >around germ killer. H2O2 makes a good inexpensive mouthwash >as well. Dilute it down to 50% water, 50% peroxide so as not >to irritate the lining of the mouth and throat. > > Thanks for the info but what strenth is the peroxide to start with? > > Kind Regards > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 Regular hydrogen peroxide is a 3% solution. <briantortoise3234@...> wrote: >peroxide is much less expensive and highly effective as an all->around germ killer. H2O2 makes a good inexpensive mouthwash >as well. Dilute it down to 50% water, 50% peroxide so as not >to irritate the lining of the mouth and throat.Thanks for the info but what strenth is the peroxide to start with?Kind Regards_______________________________________________No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com . Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. -Dr.Seuss . It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing. - Duke Ellington . Never place a period where God has placed a comma. - Gracie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2006 Report Share Posted March 16, 2006 If you're going to use boiling water, the best thing to do is to pour the water over the toothbrush as that will help wash away any unfriendly microbes.sterten@... wrote: peroxide, is it easier/safer than just putting the brushes into a glass with boiling water ? . Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. -Dr.Seuss . It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing. - Duke Ellington . Never place a period where God has placed a comma. - Gracie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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