Re: The Body Code

[Guest guest]

I filled out the questionaire. Right now I feel a lot of loathing toward my

body...uck.

I really blew it today at Thanksgiving dinner. The only thing that wasn't

an avoid on the table was the turkey. I succombed to the fudge big time. I

feel pretty guilty about it.

I did go last week to my doctor for a TSH...don't know the results of

that yet. I asked her if she'd heard about ER4YT. She had had a another MD

recommend it to her. She told me to stick with it, that it has a lot of

merit! That was good...it was nice to be validated since I have a history of

beingi obsessive about weight and diets...particularly with my family.

I think Christmas I will bring some things that I can have and if someone

wants to sample them...fine.

Hope everyone out there in " O " Land had a great Thanksgiving. If there

was anything that helped anyone stay off the avoid list please share. I don't

want to repeat this day on Christmas...Same family...basically same food.

Desserts are my downfall. I've been eating a lot of dehydrated pineapple but

I don't think that's doing me any good. I'm beginning to wonder about

candida.

Rochelle

[Guest guest]

I was feeling pretty slender. Have lost about 5 pounds the past couple of

weeks. Overate, of course, today, but made the dressing out of spelt bread

and made some spelt bread to replace rolls. Only had turkey, bread,

dressing, green beans and cranberry sauce. But took a nap and when I got up

headed straight for the pumpkin pie which was store bought so it had dairy

and wheat. Probably nutmeg too. Now I feel it and feel overloaded. Just

as long as we don't keep it up. Sheesh. You have to enjoy things once in a

while though. For Christmas I am making my own tofu pumpkin pie with spelt

piecrust. Oh, had some jello salad too. Ate more than my body wanted. I

need to cleanse. Figured I may as well wait till after today though.

Jeanie

> From: Runtshell@...

>

> I filled out the questionaire. Right now I feel a lot of loathing toward

my

> body...uck.

> I really blew it today at Thanksgiving dinner. The only thing that

wasn't

> an avoid on the table was the turkey. I succombed to the fudge big time. I

> feel pretty guilty about it.

> I did go last week to my doctor for a TSH...don't know the results of

> that yet. I asked her if she'd heard about ER4YT. She had had a another MD

> recommend it to her. She told me to stick with it, that it has a lot of

> merit! That was good...it was nice to be validated since I have a history

of

> beingi obsessive about weight and diets...particularly with my family.

> I think Christmas I will bring some things that I can have and if

someone

> wants to sample them...fine.

> Hope everyone out there in " O " Land had a great Thanksgiving. If there

> was anything that helped anyone stay off the avoid list please share. I

don't

> want to repeat this day on Christmas...Same family...basically same food.

> Desserts are my downfall. I've been eating a lot of dehydrated pineapple

but

> I don't think that's doing me any good. I'm beginning to wonder about

> candida.

> Rochelle

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you Tom. I'm waiting to find out what type I am. Jeanie

The Body Code by Jay is a good companion to ER4YT.

The book's premise is that genes determine your metabolic type. Each of us has

a characteristic physical appearance, energy pattern, which works to achieve a

biological balance, and a dominant gland--adrenal, ovarian, thyroidal, and

pituitary--that influences our physical appearance, personality, character

traits, and diet.

At the beginning of the book is a questionnaire you can use to determine your

body type.

Jay proceeds to explain the most compatible diet, exercise regimen, and

lifestyle for each body type.

You can determine your body type by going to Jay 's website @

www.jaycooper.com.

I fall into one of the " sleek " generic types. The diet recommended for my type

includes lots of lean protein, leafy vegetables, and monounsaturated fats. I

should avoid foods such as sweets, refined carbos, and caffeine that stimulate

my dominant gland, the thyroid. There is a conflict in the protein category: he

includes such AVOIDS as dairy foods.

If we make note of this conflict with the gospel of ER4YT, the message is

still basically compatible with what D' Adamo recommends for us type O's.

Some of the other body types do best on diets that minimize flesh foods or

that emphasize vegetarian diets. (The flesh food minimization may be because of

the estrogen-mimicking chemicals they may contain).

Type O participants in this forum may be interested in how other members were

classified according to The Body Code.

Tom, in Florida

[Guest guest]

Tom, I took the test, think I am a thyroid as well. Haven't gotten the

results yet. thanks for the info though.

>From: " tkobzina " <tkobzina@...>

>Reply-onelist

><onelist>

>Subject: " The Body Code "

>Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 07:40:06 -0500

>

>The Body Code by Jay is a good companion to ER4YT.

>The book's premise is that genes determine your metabolic type. Each of us

>has a characteristic physical appearance, energy pattern, which works to

>achieve a biological balance, and a dominant gland--adrenal, ovarian,

>thyroidal, and pituitary--that influences our physical appearance,

>personality, character traits, and diet.

>At the beginning of the book is a questionnaire you can use to determine

>your body type.

>Jay proceeds to explain the most compatible diet, exercise regimen,

>and lifestyle for each body type.

>You can determine your body type by going to Jay 's website @

>www.jaycooper.com.

>I fall into one of the " sleek " generic types. The diet recommended for my

>type includes lots of lean protein, leafy vegetables, and monounsaturated

>fats. I should avoid foods such as sweets, refined carbos, and caffeine

>that stimulate my dominant gland, the thyroid. There is a conflict in the

>protein category: he includes such AVOIDS as dairy foods.

>If we make note of this conflict with the gospel of ER4YT, the message is

>still basically compatible with what D' Adamo recommends for us type O's.

>Some of the other body types do best on diets that minimize flesh foods or

>that emphasize vegetarian diets. (The flesh food minimization may be

>because of the estrogen-mimicking chemicals they may contain).

>Type O participants in this forum may be interested in how other members

>were classified according to The Body Code.

>Tom, in Florida

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/25/1999 6:34:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,

tkobzina@... writes:

<< You can determine your body type by going to Jay 's website >>

Hi Tom,

Thanks for the information. I went to the website and took the quick quiz.

It came back that I am a Nurturer.

<<Nurturer types are the relationship builders and/or

the compassionate healers of the world. Many of today’s high

achievers are N-types.

The best wellness theme for your genetic type is to combine

a foundation of specific body code-type exercise with a diet that

minimizes your trigger foods. Supplement your diet with amino acids

in the afternoon to neutralize your tendency to overeat during the

5-10pm time. Also, keep your cardiovascular activities fun and

social or you will soon lose interest.>>

I found the comment about " tendency to overeat during the 5-10pm time " as

very interesting. This is when I get cravings and continue to eat whether I

want to or not, and, therefore, have not been able to lose any weight on

ER4YT.

<<Also, keep your cardiovascular activities fun and

social or you will soon lose interest.>>

This is also interesting, because I like playing sports, but absolutely hate

exercising.

I have sent for the Quick Start package and will keep everyone informed about

any success.

Regards,

Sharon

[Guest guest]

Hi Rochelle and Everyone,

I'm new to this list. I'm a type " O " .....and (have lyme disease)....I have

gained 60lbs over the past four years and can't lose it. I heard Dr.

D'Adamo speak at a health conference. I really believe his

theory/research....but it is so difficult to stick to this way of eating

around the holidays....Rochelle, take a good look at your tongue, if its

really white or even yellowish.....candida is the cause.......Connie nwnj

[Guest guest]

I just got my results back and am the Communicator type driven by thyroid.

Very interesting. Jeanie

> From: SFerris769@...

>

> In a message dated 11/25/1999 6:34:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> tkobzina@... writes:

>

> << You can determine your body type by going to Jay 's website >>

>

> Hi Tom,

>

> Thanks for the information. I went to the website and took the quick

quiz.

> It came back that I am a Nurturer.

>

> <<Nurturer types are the relationship builders and/or

> the compassionate healers of the world. Many of todayb

[Guest guest]

Eating at other people's homes is making it hard for me to stay on

track...don't feel too good about it either.

I took the body code questionaire and I'm a Warrior type. Hmmmm?

Rochelle

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/27/1999 10:10:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,

sparrow@... writes:

<< i am feeling the same effects from eating the wrong things...back to the

right stuff! i am getting used to feeling better and i really can't let

myself do this anymore. >>

Sparrow, I believe that is the most important point we all need to master.

Our bodies can and will tell us when things we eat are either " right " or

" wrong " but too often we let our minds overrule. Why eat a meal that

guarantees misery afterwards? I found on this diet that once I eliminated

the avoids, they needed to stay eliminated. I've eaten white potatoes all my

life, but won't touch one now in any form - I get an immediate reaction.

Awareness of that reinforces the program and makes it easy to reprogram my

mind to leave potatoes alone!!!

So what if we ate cereal and milk for breakfast for years? We struggle to

find substitutes which will never quite fill what we remember. So why not

break the mold and find a different type of breakfast altogether based on

acceptable food? I'll bet a lot of us in this group will have a better

Christmas dinner planned than we did Thanksgiving. We live and learn.

Cheers,

Betsy

[Guest guest]

Rochelle,

I did quite well on Thanksgiving, but did not have to deal with relatives.

In my case I don't think it would matter. I had wild rice dressing instead

of bread based stuffing (which I admit I adore). I made Aykia's cranberry

sauce and it was great. We had broccoli, and green salad and baked yams. I

skipped the rolls with no problem. I was truly full and satisfied. I made a

crustless pumpkin desert. Just followed the recipe on the Libby's pumpkin

can. Used allspice instead of cinnamon and nutmeg. Used soy milk instead of

canned condensed milk. Used three eggs instead of two, in case the thinner

soy milk would need a binder. Probably won't next time. Used maple syrup

instead of sugar. Added grated fresh ginger because I love it. Poured it

into individual custard cups and baked until it was done. It was very good.

And my pumpkin pie crust usually gets soggy anyway, so I didn't miss it all

that much. Now I am making turkey soup with the bones. I always simmer the

carcass for 24 hours in a HUGE pot, reduce the broth by at least half then

cool overnight and skim off the fat and remove the bones from the broth. Now

I have added all kinds of HB vegetables, plus some chopped tomatoes (canned

since the store bought ones are pretty tasteless this time of year) and lots

of legal seasoning, because I truly like spicy food. Use what ever you like.

Red pepper flakes, dulse flakes, a little salt, bay leaf, (be sure to remove

after cooking. My mother swears that it will cut up your insides if you eat

it. I rather doubt that, however why take the chance?) garlic and again

ginger because I love it. I used okra, green beans, carrots, onions,

broccoli, celery, sweet potatoes (they are great in any kind of soup. They

turn a bright yellow and with the greens and tomatoes make it visually

inviting as well as soooo good for you), collard greens and kale. I either

add cilantro when it is cooking or garnish with it right before I eat.

However Cilantro is something that I found people either love or hate. I

love it, but try a little on top of your soup before you toss an entire bunch

in the pot. I will probably throw in a handful of pearl barley to thicken it

a little and give it a little body. If there is any left over wild rice

dressing I will toss that in also. Then I freeze it in two or three portion

sizes and can look forward to a couple of months worth of soup several times

a week. I probably eat soup once a day almost every day during the fall and

winter months. An easy way to get in those HB vegetables with little work.

And the house smells good for a couple of extra days after Thanksgiving. Use

all of your favorite vegetables and add some new ones that you should have

tried but haven't. It will be good and you will feel proud of yourself for

sticking to the program. Good luck and enjoy.

Pam

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/26/1999 3:37:09 AM Mountain Standard Time,

jverner@... writes:

<< but made the dressing out of spelt bread

and made some spelt bread to replace rolls. >>

If you have a good recipe for spelt bread I would appreciate it. Also does

anyone have an online source for spelt pizza crust? I can't find anything

close here in ID. I would be willing to try a recipe if anyone has one to

offer.

Pam

[Guest guest]

i am feeling the same effects from eating the wrong things...back to the

right stuff! i am getting used to feeling better and i really can't let

myself do this anymore. my body really knows the difference and i am into

starting to respect it more.

robin

Re: " The Body Code "

>From: " jverner " <jverner@...>

>

>I was feeling pretty slender. Have lost about 5 pounds the past couple of

>weeks. Overate, of course, today, but made the dressing out of spelt bread

>and made some spelt bread to replace rolls. Only had turkey, bread,

>dressing, green beans and cranberry sauce. But took a nap and when I got

up

>headed straight for the pumpkin pie which was store bought so it had dairy

>and wheat. Probably nutmeg too. Now I feel it and feel overloaded. Just

>as long as we don't keep it up. Sheesh. You have to enjoy things once in

a

>while though. For Christmas I am making my own tofu pumpkin pie with spelt

>piecrust. Oh, had some jello salad too. Ate more than my body wanted. I

>need to cleanse. Figured I may as well wait till after today though.

>Jeanie

>

>> From: Runtshell@...

>>

>> I filled out the questionaire. Right now I feel a lot of loathing toward

>my

>> body...uck.

>> I really blew it today at Thanksgiving dinner. The only thing that

>wasn't

>> an avoid on the table was the turkey. I succombed to the fudge big time.

I

>> feel pretty guilty about it.

>> I did go last week to my doctor for a TSH...don't know the results of

>> that yet. I asked her if she'd heard about ER4YT. She had had a another

MD

>> recommend it to her. She told me to stick with it, that it has a lot of

>> merit! That was good...it was nice to be validated since I have a history

>of

>> beingi obsessive about weight and diets...particularly with my family.

>> I think Christmas I will bring some things that I can have and if

>someone

>> wants to sample them...fine.

>> Hope everyone out there in " O " Land had a great Thanksgiving. If

there

>> was anything that helped anyone stay off the avoid list please share. I

>don't

>> want to repeat this day on Christmas...Same family...basically same food.

>> Desserts are my downfall. I've been eating a lot of dehydrated pineapple

>but

>> I don't think that's doing me any good. I'm beginning to wonder about

>> candida.

>> Rochelle

>>

>> >

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/27/1999 12:56:29 PM Mountain Standard Time,

jverner@... writes:

<< We already threw away our carcass. Gotta print

your message. Good for you sticking with things! That is the major hurdle

for me - holidays. How do you make wild rice dressing anyway? >>

OMG!! You threw it away? Sob....I am so sorry I didn't send this out on

Thanksgiving Day. Oh well, maybe you will have another one for Christmas,

since ham is on the avoid at all costs list! LOL But do try the soup. You

will not be sorry. Email me if you need any other suggestions or ideas.

Really, it is not that hard to stick with the program. If you are home, make

what you can eat and let the others adjust or make two kinds of things for a

while. The wild rice dressing is easy. Just cook wild rice with brown rice

or white rice. Or check with Uncle Ben mix and see if there are any avoids

in the ingredients. I added garlic, chopped celery, chopped onion, ginger

and cilantro. You could add grated carrot too. I also added toasted walnuts

and a bit of chopped prunes. I like lots of flavor so I do odd things quite

often. Most of the time it is great. Once in a while I come up with

something that is less than memorable, so I don't do it again. If you have

little kids, or a picky husband you have to go slowly. I only have me and

the cats and dogs to please so it is much easier. I also added the chopped

gizzard, heart and liver from the turkey. Once the rice was cooked, I added

the raw vegetables, meat and seasoning. I probably used a little salt, some

poultry seasoning, and a little butter to make it yummy. I would have added

mushrooms, but they are on the avoid list. I still think if we boiled them,

they would have no more mold spores, but why take a chance. I know that I am

allergic to mold and mildew anyway. As far as the pumpkin goes, it was

heavier than the usual pie is. However I did add an extra egg and cut back

on the soy milk since it was thinner than the canned. I won't next time.

There is no way to be wrong. It will come out however it comes out. Taste

for seasoning while it is still in the mixing bowl. Add the allspice slowly.

Try a little cardamom too. If the maple syrup is not sweet enough, then add

a little sugar, wither white or maybe brown. I did miss the nutmeg which I

really love. But what the heck, it was totally legal and had a nice flavor.

I easily passed up chocolate cheese cake and at it instead. And I am not one

with much will power normally, especially when it comes to chocolate

anything. And I really am trying to stay away from the avoid foods. But I

think the most important thing for us to do is totally clean out the corn and

wheat from our systems. Once I did, I had very few cravings to deal with.

But I think it would only take a little bite to make them come back. So

don't cheat on the corn and wheat. And be sure to read labels on everything.

Both will show up when you would swear that whatever prepared food you are

thinking of would never have either. And again, FOR ME it works to fill up on

the HB foods and some neutral foods. I will worry about cutting down after

the holidays. Hang in there.

Pam

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/27/1999 12:58:08 PM Mountain Standard Time,

jverner@... writes:

<< Do you have CR4YT? There are bread recipes in there. I do have a pizza

crust recipe I tried that was descent that I can send. >>

Duh....I sure do. I don;t remember any pizza crust receipts in it. I guess

I should pull it out and reread it again. I have the good books put away so

the kittens and/or puppies don't chew on the corners. But send me yours

anyway just in case,

Pam

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/27/1999 12:56:29 PM Mountain Standard Time,

jverner@... writes:

<< Wasn't real thrilled about tofu pie. >>

I would think that the bland tofu might dilute the pumpkin flavor too much.

But it night be just the ticket for a summer lemon pie. That is my very

favorite, even if I make it some kind of crustless desert. Were you

experimenting or did you have a recipe?

Pam

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/27/1999 11:33:58 AM Mountain Standard Time,

Eso@... writes:

<<

So what if we ate cereal and milk for breakfast for years? >>

Speaking of, does anyone have any great ideas for breakfast. I am enjoying

the fruit smoothies. And I really like a piece of Esenne bread under two

eggs. I have no problem eating meat and vegetables but I am usually not that

hungry. And since eggs are to be limited I would like to get some more

protein in that meal that just fruit. Did someone say they found a good

protein powder with no milk or corn products? Or did I just hear that

someone else was looking?

Pam

[Guest guest]

Pam - thank you! Duh! I'm not all that creative with cooking. Tend to be

a recipe follower the same way I am with directions getting places. I am

going to try my pumpkin pie the way you did it but will use spelt pie crust.

Wasn't real thrilled about tofu pie. Its ok - but just not the same. The

texture was different with the last, but maybe I could use Silken tofu. I

like your idea better though. I love pumpkin pie! May try the soup recipe

too at least for Christmas. We already threw away our carcass. Gotta print

your message. Good for you sticking with things! That is the major hurdle

for me - holidays. How do you make wild rice dressing anyway? Jeanie

> From: Sharpcats@...

>

> Rochelle,

>

> I did quite well on Thanksgiving, but did not have to deal with relatives.

> In my case I don't think it would matter. I had wild rice dressing

instead

> of bread based stuffing (which I admit I adore). I made Aykia's cranberry

> sauce and it was great. We had broccoli, and green salad and baked yams.

I

> skipped the rolls with no problem. I was truly full and satisfied. I

made a

> crustless pumpkin desert. Just followed the recipe on the Libby's pumpkin

> can. Used allspice instead of cinnamon and nutmeg. Used soy milk instead

of

> canned condensed milk. Used three eggs instead of two, in case the

thinner

> soy milk would need a binder. Probably won't next time. Used maple syrup

> instead of sugar. Added grated fresh ginger because I love it. Poured it

> into individual custard cups and baked until it was done. It was very

good.

> And my pumpkin pie crust usually gets soggy anyway, so I didn't miss it

all

> that much. Now I am making turkey soup with the bones. I always simmer

the

> carcass for 24 hours in a HUGE pot, reduce the broth by at least half then

> cool overnight and skim off the fat and remove the bones from the broth.

Now

> I have added all kinds of HB vegetables, plus some chopped tomatoes

(canned

> since the store bought ones are pretty tasteless this time of year) and

lots

> of legal seasoning, because I truly like spicy food. Use what ever you

like.

> Red pepper flakes, dulse flakes, a little salt, bay leaf, (be sure to

remove

> after cooking. My mother swears that it will cut up your insides if you

eat

> it. I rather doubt that, however why take the chance?) garlic and again

> ginger because I love it. I used okra, green beans, carrots, onions,

> broccoli, celery, sweet potatoes (they are great in any kind of soup.

They

> turn a bright yellow and with the greens and tomatoes make it visually

> inviting as well as soooo good for you), collard greens and kale. I

either

> add cilantro when it is cooking or garnish with it right before I eat.

> However Cilantro is something that I found people either love or hate. I

> love it, but try a little on top of your soup before you toss an entire

bunch

> in the pot. I will probably throw in a handful of pearl barley to thicken

it

> a little and give it a little body. If there is any left over wild rice

> dressing I will toss that in also. Then I freeze it in two or three

portion

> sizes and can look forward to a couple of months worth of soup several

times

> a week. I probably eat soup once a day almost every day during the fall

and

> winter months. An easy way to get in those HB vegetables with little

work.

> And the house smells good for a couple of extra days after Thanksgiving.

Use

> all of your favorite vegetables and add some new ones that you should have

> tried but haven't. It will be good and you will feel proud of yourself

for

> sticking to the program. Good luck and enjoy.

>

> Pam

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Do you have CR4YT? There are bread recipes in there. I do have a pizza

crust recipe I tried that was descent that I can send. Its from off the

internet but couldn't tell you where. I seemed to react unfavorably to it

though. I will check in the CR4YT book too. Let me know if you don't have

it. Jeanie

> From: Sharpcats@...

>

> In a message dated 11/26/1999 3:37:09 AM Mountain Standard Time,

> jverner@... writes:

>

> << but made the dressing out of spelt bread

> and made some spelt bread to replace rolls. >>

>

>

> If you have a good recipe for spelt bread I would appreciate it. Also

does

> anyone have an online source for spelt pizza crust? I can't find anything

> close here in ID. I would be willing to try a recipe if anyone has one to

> offer.

>

> Pam

>

> >

[Guest guest]

what are your immediate symptoms from eating white potatoes?

i am wondering if it is the same for all of us. i get really bloated in my

upper stomach and feel pain in my stomach and upper back...kinda like gall

bladder symptoms.

robin

Re: " The Body Code "

>From: Eso@...

>

>In a message dated 11/27/1999 10:10:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,

>sparrow@... writes:

>

><< i am feeling the same effects from eating the wrong things...back to the

> right stuff! i am getting used to feeling better and i really can't let

> myself do this anymore. >>

>Sparrow, I believe that is the most important point we all need to master.

>Our bodies can and will tell us when things we eat are either " right " or

> " wrong " but too often we let our minds overrule. Why eat a meal that

>guarantees misery afterwards? I found on this diet that once I eliminated

>the avoids, they needed to stay eliminated. I've eaten white potatoes all

my

>life, but won't touch one now in any form - I get an immediate reaction.

>Awareness of that reinforces the program and makes it easy to reprogram my

>mind to leave potatoes alone!!!

>

>So what if we ate cereal and milk for breakfast for years? We struggle to

>find substitutes which will never quite fill what we remember. So why not

>break the mold and find a different type of breakfast altogether based on

>acceptable food? I'll bet a lot of us in this group will have a better

>Christmas dinner planned than we did Thanksgiving. We live and learn.

>

>Cheers,

>Betsy

>

>>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/27/1999 3:15:43 PM Central Standard Time,

sparrow@... writes:

<< what are your immediate symptoms from eating white potatoes?

i am wondering if it is the same for all of us. i get really bloated in my

upper stomach and feel pain in my stomach and upper back...kinda like gall

bladder symptoms.

robin >>

That's exactly how I felt Thursday afternoon. I just couldn't pass up the

mashed potatoes. I ate some other avoids as well, but really hit the potatoes

hard. It was one of the worst heartburns I've ever experienced.

I appreciate the aternate suggestions...I will try some for Christmas and

take them with me to the family dinner. The only thing though with pumpkin is

that I've never cared for pumpkin.

Rochelle

[Guest guest]

NOW brand soy protein powder is all Supro soy protein (which means, I think,

that it's non-genetically manipulated...). 2 lbs of NOW at one health food

store in Denton, TX costs aroun $13, making it half the price of Genisoy. I

think it makes better-tasting walnut/banana/soy smoothies than Genisoy,

anyway. Also, Genisoy adds gums, cellulose, and rice flour to their

unsweetened powder. No thanks...

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/28/1999 3:12:11 PM Mountain Standard Time,

jverner@... writes:

<< Pam - not ignoring your request. Need to find the recipe for pizza crust.

Will get to it today. Jeanie >>

Take your time. I appreciate the trouble you are going through. I need

pizza like I need another 20 pounds. So there is no hurry. But it would be

a nice treat sometime. I did find some Terra Chips at a local health food

store. They were very outdated (after I got home I noticed...too late to

drive 30 miles back to return them), so they were a bit stale. But they were

sure good. My brand had several root vegetables, but they also come in just

sweet potato. The website is Terrachips.com if you want to take a look.

Pam

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/28/1999 6:26:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Sharpcats@... writes:

<< I did find some Terra Chips at a local health food

store. They were very outdated (after I got home I noticed...too late to

drive 30 miles back to return them), so they were a bit stale. >>

Stale chips, crackers and bread refresh themselves remarkable in the

microwave. I have found the Terra Chips almost too hard to chew sometimes,

and a minute in the microwave crisps them up nicely.

Same for Wasa bread. Everything here in Florida humidity goes stale quickly,

and this has saved throwing out a lot of things.

Betsy

[Guest guest]

Pam - not ignoring your request. Need to find the recipe for pizza crust.

Will get to it today. Jeanie

"

> From: Sharpcats@...

>

> In a message dated 11/27/1999 12:58:08 PM Mountain Standard Time,

> jverner@... writes:

>

> << Do you have CR4YT? There are bread recipes in there. I do have a

pizza

> crust recipe I tried that was descent that I can send. >>

>

>

> Duh....I sure do. I don;t remember any pizza crust receipts in it. I

guess

> I should pull it out and reread it again. I have the good books put away

so

> the kittens and/or puppies don't chew on the corners. But send me yours

> anyway just in case,

>

> Pam

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you Pam. You sound like a great cook. I am the same way about

chocolate. Just keep it out of my house. I hope well meaning neighbors

don't come around with goodies this year like they did last year. We had

about 7 goodie plates with yummy sweets to eat last year and I folded. For

Thanksgiving last week friends dropped by a pumpkin pie with a layer of

chocolate on top. Why???? So sweet and thoughtful but oh what it does to

me. (And of course I can't resist trying it). They had peanut butter

chocolate chip muffins waiting for me when I got home from WA. It made me

feel good emotionally, but not physically. Can't we show our affection for

eachother some other way than junk food? I wouldn't want to hurt these

people's feelings for anything in the world - guess I should just be

stronger. Its hard though. On that note - anyone got any good ideas for

healthy goodies for the holidays? Jeanie

> From: Sharpcats@...

>

> In a message dated 11/27/1999 12:56:29 PM Mountain Standard Time,

> jverner@... writes:

>

> << We already threw away our carcass. Gotta print

> your message. Good for you sticking with things! That is the major

hurdle

> for me - holidays. How do you make wild rice dressing anyway? >>

>

>

> OMG!! You threw it away? Sob....I am so sorry I didn't send this out on

> Thanksgiving Day. Oh well, maybe you will have another one for Christmas,

> since ham is on the avoid at all costs list! LOL But do try the soup.

You

> will not be sorry. Email me if you need any other suggestions or ideas.

> Really, it is not that hard to stick with the program. If you are home,

make

> what you can eat and let the others adjust or make two kinds of things for

a

> while. The wild rice dressing is easy. Just cook wild rice with brown

rice

> or white rice. Or check with Uncle Ben mix and see if there are any

avoids

> in the ingredients. I added garlic, chopped celery, chopped onion, ginger

> and cilantro. You could add grated carrot too. I also added toasted

walnuts

> and a bit of chopped prunes. I like lots of flavor so I do odd things

quite

> often. Most of the time it is great. Once in a while I come up with

> something that is less than memorable, so I don't do it again. If you

have

> little kids, or a picky husband you have to go slowly. I only have me and

> the cats and dogs to please so it is much easier. I also added the

chopped

> gizzard, heart and liver from the turkey. Once the rice was cooked, I

added

> the raw vegetables, meat and seasoning. I probably used a little salt,

some

> poultry seasoning, and a little butter to make it yummy. I would have

added

> mushrooms, but they are on the avoid list. I still think if we boiled

them,

> they would have no more mold spores, but why take a chance. I know that I

am

> allergic to mold and mildew anyway. As far as the pumpkin goes, it was

> heavier than the usual pie is. However I did add an extra egg and cut

back

> on the soy milk since it was thinner than the canned. I won't next time.

> There is no way to be wrong. It will come out however it comes out.

Taste

> for seasoning while it is still in the mixing bowl. Add the allspice

slowly.

> Try a little cardamom too. If the maple syrup is not sweet enough, then

add

> a little sugar, wither white or maybe brown. I did miss the nutmeg which I

> really love. But what the heck, it was totally legal and had a nice

flavor.

> I easily passed up chocolate cheese cake and at it instead. And I am not

one

> with much will power normally, especially when it comes to chocolate

> anything. And I really am trying to stay away from the avoid foods. But

I

> think the most important thing for us to do is totally clean out the corn

and

> wheat from our systems. Once I did, I had very few cravings to deal with.

> But I think it would only take a little bite to make them come back. So

> don't cheat on the corn and wheat. And be sure to read labels on

everything.

> Both will show up when you would swear that whatever prepared food you

are

> thinking of would never have either. And again, FOR ME it works to fill up

on

> the HB foods and some neutral foods. I will worry about cutting down

after

> the holidays. Hang in there.

>

> Pam

>

> >