Sars

[Guest guest]

I was wondering if I was the only one feeling nervous about SARS. With Lacey

having the chronic lung problems she has, it definitely scares me. I haven't

done much reading, though, so my fears are just from what I've heard in the

media. I'll be asking her infectious disease doctor about it tomorrow for

sure~~

Belinda

Lacey's mom, (15, CdLS, immune deficiency)

Pittsburg, CA

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[Guest guest]

Hi, we are scheduled to fly to Las Vegas for a gymnastics tournament this

weekend. Not sure will be able to compete as he is having a difficult time

with his neck. But if we do go Should I have wear a mask?

Or am I being too paranoid?

le

[Guest guest]

I don't think you're too paranoid. I asked 's pediatrician today about

SARS, and she said " all we can do is pray it doesn't spread everywhere " .

It seems to be spread as easily as the common cold, but it is deadly. Very

scary.

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> Hi, we are scheduled to fly to Las Vegas for a gymnastics tournament this

weekend. Not sure will be able to compete as he is having a difficult

time with his neck. But if we do go Should I have wear a mask?

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> Or am I being too paranoid?

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[Guest guest]

Go to the tournament . Have fun. Avoid contact with anyone who has been

traveling outside of the U.S., especially in Asian countries. Have fun.

Avoid anyone who seems ill. Have fun. Wash hands often. Have fun.

http://www.cdc.gov/od/oc/media/sars.htm

This is our Center for Disease Control website. Gives exact numbers of

*suspected* cases of SARS in the U.S. as reported on a state by state

basis. (Nevada isn't on the list at this point)

http://www.who.int/csr/don/en/

This is the World Health Organization website and it gives daily update on

where SARS is.

http://www.who.int/country/usa/en/

Part of same web site giving specific info about disease in the U.S.A.

http://www.paho.org/

Pan American website - regional office for World Health Org. Has lots of

info about various health situations in America

Probably more info than you ever wanted to know.

God bless,

Wenoka

[Guest guest]

Dear le,

Make sure you keep SARS in perspective. What I'm hearing is that more people

die every year from the flu -- but SARS is quick, so it's news worthy. At 13,

I'm more scared of scarring ! I'd let it be his choice. They say the

biggest danger is from people who have recently traveled in the Orient. He

might want to wear a mask while traveling -- if at all. I think masks are

great -- but they really draw attention! Make sure that is comfortable

with that.

Katy corresponds with a young man with CVID by e-mail whose Mom is super

cautious and takes every possible moment to protect him -- only trouble is --

he sees no reason for it -- so deliberately exposes himself to danger behind

her back -- smoking, drugs, sex, etc. The transition to independence was not

smooth. I, too, sheltered Katy so much that she too went through the major

rebellion. It's taken her 2 years to get it through her head what is

reasonable and what is not. Can this rebellion be prevented? I don't know.

Just don't go overboard on protecting! You may keep him alive and lose him

emotionally. That sounds very grim. But, studies have shown that the

psychological impact of chronic disease is often worse than the disease

itself. And I see emerging as a phenomenal young man with a good head on

his shoulders. Let's keep him taking responsibility and gradually

transitioning to adulthood. So my vote is that a mask would probably be wise

while traveling -- but it's his body.

And parents: don't let your teenagers read the above!!!

In His service,

Dale

[Guest guest]

Let's keep him taking responsibility and gradually

transitioning to adulthood. So my vote is that a mask would probably

be wise

while traveling -- but it's his body.

Thanks Dale for your words of wisdom. I wasn't even worrying about SARS until

today when the media came on about the plane in San . Then began to wonder

about who would be traveling to Las Vegas.

If he wore the mask it would only be while on the plane. and I have talked

about it also how we don't want to be in fear mode. His thought was to bring it

and if he heard someone coughing a lot then put it on. I told him that sounded

good to me.

He was very fearful that this episode with his neck was related to his joint

issues. The pain was an 11 on a 1-10 scale last night...........I believe part

of it was that he was in fear mode , not sure what was happening. This morning

we took him in for accupressure and massage and he was moving his neck more

today still stiff but not as much pain. I believe it was a muscle spasm. He

seems to be getting better.

Well thank you to everyone for responding,,,,,,,,,,,,Dale thanks again for your

words. You are truly a blessing!

le

[Guest guest]

This has been on my mind too lately, although since Kody is now homebound

schooled (he's not done well recently, long story) I am not quite as worried

about it. But, that said, we do have a very large Asian community here in our

area so we have lots of people flying in here. It is scary, and I think that it

is good to be aware and keep informed on this deadly flu, but keep things in

perspective. We have had cases of the SARS here in Michigan. Not where I live so

I am not freaking out yet. Shit. Here I just said that and the guy on the news

says " The first cases of SARS here in West Michigan up next " ...doggoneit.

Anyway, I think if going someplace crowded I would bring a mask for Kody. Not

that the kid would wear it, he hates them, but I'd bring it, and maybe think

twice about how badly I needed to bring him with me. That isn't to say I

wouldn't take him, but hey does he need to go to a movie theater right now or

would a rented video make him happy? I think it is about choices. I wouldn't

cancel my trip, but I would be cautious. That is all any of us can do really.

Diane, Mom to Kody

[Guest guest]

I

wouldn't cancel my trip, but I would be cautious. That is all any of us

Hi Diane,

We are not planning on cancelling the trip due to SARS . I just wasn't to

thrilled about the aiplane ride when like you said it hit the news and was local

now.

will be bringing a mask for the plane ride only. I have a feeling he will

not be the only one. wants to wear it...........he doesnt want to catch

anything on the plane that may affect his meet.

We are not wearing one on a everyday basis.

We are praying for Kody

le

[Guest guest]

We are due to go to New York 9th May and I noticed that together with

California New York has the most suspected cases. I live in the UK.

Carol

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[Guest guest]

I've been worried about this also with Autumn's lung problems. There are 3

suspected cases in Texas, so we're just going to be more cautious.

Until last night I thought we were going to escape the change-over to spring

with no asthma flare-up. I guess I was wrong. That tight cough is starting

to creep back in. Let's hope it's just allergies and not the beginning of

something else.

Ray, mother to Tabitha (age 7), Autumn, age 5 (IgG def., asthma,

chronic sinusitis, and allergies), and Duncan (22 months)

[Guest guest]

Lacey had her IVIG today, so I asked her infectious disease doctor if he was

worried about SARS. He said he is worried about it, but mostly because we

don't know enough about it. But right now, it seems to be only affecting

those who have traveled, so he made Lacey promise she wouldn't be boarding

any flights for Asia He also said that the flu kills way more people~~

Belinda

Lacey's mom, (15, CdLS, immune deficiency)

Pittsburg, CA

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Featured Family of August 2001</A>

[Guest guest]

That's probably because both states have the highest populations, so the

odds are they'll have the most. California also has a very high asian

population, and they are more likely to be traveling to Asia.

I probably shouldn't be, but I'm very worried about this just because it's

so easy to catch!

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> California New York has the most suspected cases. I live in the UK.

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>Randall Neustaedter OMD, LAc

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Dear Dr. Neustaedter...

I've been reading your website a bit, but have been unable to find an

explanation of exactly what " OMD " stands for. I presume it's related to

Oriental Medicine, but I would like to know precisely what the

term/certification is.

Thank you,

Ninette

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Re: SARS

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> >Randall Neustaedter OMD, LAc

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> >email: randalln@...

> >Author of The Vaccine Guide, North Atlantic Books, 2002

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> Dear Dr. Neustaedter...

> I've been reading your website a bit, but have been unable to find an

> explanation of exactly what " OMD " stands for. I presume it's related to

> Oriental Medicine, but I would like to know precisely what the

> term/certification is.

> Thank you,

> Ninette

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[Guest guest]

I could be way wrong, but there

> needs to be some logical reason why the cases in Toronto are dying

and NO

> ONE in the US has died yet.

On Mar 11, the WHO issued a global alert. However, the first Canadian

death was Mar 5 (she was infected in late Feb) and yes, she was in

the hospital. The second, her son, died on Mar 13. The cases have

been limited to people exposed to SARS in that one hospital and their

families. The hospital was dealing with this disease before it became

headline news, without knowing the extent of the problem.

The first reported suspect American case was Mar 15, according to the

CDC. Given the time, they knew what they were up against and

treatments were already being assessed. As well, the researchers in

the US state it is only a coronavirus whereas in Canada they are

finding coronavirus with metapneumovirus and in Hong Kong with

paramyxovirus. This may explain its virulence in some

countries.

The ages of the victims were 43(the son), 57, 62, 74, 75, 76, 77,

(2)78 and 82. Most had other chronic illnesses.

The treatment the Canadians are using is the one outlined in the CDC

protocol, antibiotics & antivirals along with oxygen if need be. They

are being kept in rooms with a controlled air supply.

Both the Canadian and American systems have their drawbacks. Remember

that the US has the highest infant mortality rate in the

industrialized world.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/20/2003 5:29:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,

dhatch1@... writes:

> Anyone have an opinion in regards to the use of electro medicine

Hi,

I recently purchased the Vapozone System for a relative with breathing

problems. Breathing ozone attached to certain aromatic oils could be used for

SARS:

<A

HREF= " http://healingtools.tripod.com/VDS2.html " >http://healingtools.tripod.com/V\

DS2.html</A>

Below is the website for building the airbrush nebulizer for use with

colloidlal silver:

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HREF= " http://www.silvermedicine.org/airbrushoxygennebulizer.html " >http://www.sil\

vermedicine.org/airbrushoxygennebulizer.html</A>

Dotsie

[Guest guest]

My opinion is that the beck protocol should be able to handle anything that

comes down the pike. I sent a few godzillas to Tiawan where they were

having a problem with Sars and I will see what kind of feedback I get from

that.

Thet other thing that could work good for SARS is the inhalation of

Colliodal Silver mist from a nebulizer or an ultrasonic humidifier. So I

think we are all doing good to have these things hond or know about them

for anythnig that is coming down the pike. The biggest thing Im worried

about is the actions of teh government and forced vaccinations, death camps

and things like that. Diseases are a piece of cake compared to a

totalitarian police state medical mafia mass murdering agenda coming down

the road.

V

----- Original Message -----

From: " M. Hatch " <dhatch1@...>

Hello,

Anyone have an opinion in regards to the use of electro medicine or Rife to

address all the fun things that seem to be coming down the pike?

-

[Guest guest]

Thanks V,

Forced vaccinations, death camps, totalitarian police state medical mafia mass

murdering agenda...what's wrong with that?

Re: SARS

My opinion is that the beck protocol should be able to handle anything that

comes down the pike. I sent a few godzillas to Tiawan where they were

having a problem with Sars and I will see what kind of feedback I get from

that.

Thet other thing that could work good for SARS is the inhalation of

Colliodal Silver mist from a nebulizer or an ultrasonic humidifier. So I

think we are all doing good to have these things hond or know about them

for anythnig that is coming down the pike. The biggest thing Im worried

about is the actions of teh government and forced vaccinations, death camps

and things like that. Diseases are a piece of cake compared to a

totalitarian police state medical mafia mass murdering agenda coming down

the road.

V

----- Original Message -----

From: " M. Hatch " <dhatch1@...>

Hello,

Anyone have an opinion in regards to the use of electro medicine or Rife to

address all the fun things that seem to be coming down the pike?

-

[Guest guest]

What is a nebulizer or ultrasonic humidifier?

Re: SARS

My opinion is that the beck protocol should be able to handle anything that

comes down the pike. I sent a few godzillas to Tiawan where they were

having a problem with Sars and I will see what kind of feedback I get from

that.

Thet other thing that could work good for SARS is the inhalation of

Colliodal Silver mist from a nebulizer or an ultrasonic humidifier. So I

think we are all doing good to have these things hond or know about them

for anythnig that is coming down the pike. The biggest thing Im worried

about is the actions of teh government and forced vaccinations, death camps

and things like that. Diseases are a piece of cake compared to a

totalitarian police state medical mafia mass murdering agenda coming down

the road.

V

----- Original Message -----

From: " M. Hatch " <dhatch1@...>

Hello,

Anyone have an opinion in regards to the use of electro medicine or Rife to

address all the fun things that seem to be coming down the pike?

-

[Guest guest]

Whats wrong with that? Well I cant be on the internet if Im going through

that, thats one thing.

V

----- Original Message -----

From: " M. Hatch " <dhatch1@...>

Thanks V,

Forced vaccinations, death camps, totalitarian police state medical mafia

mass murdering agenda...what's wrong with that?

[Guest guest]

A nebulizer is a small appliance that works similar to a " Air Brush " used

for painting. It uses compressed air to make a liquid into a very fine

mist. you can build one out of an air brush.

An ultrasonic humidifier is a humidifier you can buy at Wal Mart or any

drug store and it is designed to humidify the air. the way it works is it

has an ultrasonic sound source submersed in water and the sound waves break

up the water into a very fine mist and a little fan blows the mist out a

nozzle. The mist is so fine it feel dry. What you do is put Colloidal

silver in it instead of water and when the mist comes out you inhale the

Colloidal silver to get it right into the lungs to kill any viruses or

infection that might be in there. you can also add some MSM to the

colloidal silver . They were discussing this on one of the groups a while

back.

V

----- Original Message -----

From: " M. Hatch " <dhatch1@...>

What is a nebulizer or ultrasonic humidifier?

[Guest guest]

V,

You know I'm being silly.

Yes, we live in interesting times guaranteed to get interestinger.

Re: SARS

Whats wrong with that? Well I cant be on the internet if Im going through

that, thats one thing.

V

----- Original Message -----

From: " M. Hatch " <dhatch1@...>

Thanks V,

Forced vaccinations, death camps, totalitarian police state medical mafia

mass murdering agenda...what's wrong with that?

[Guest guest]

Yes, I know. :-) Yeah I think if we dont blow ourselves up we will make it

and prosper greatly.

V

Re: SARS

Whats wrong with that? Well I cant be on the internet if Im going

through

that, thats one thing.

V

[Guest guest]

Very funny. When we first started out, everytime had

network/server issues, it was a whole barrage of threads about the

FDA and govt censorship...then our files came back. But it sure gets

the old adrenalin going.

b

> V,

> You know I'm being silly.

> Yes, we live in interesting times guaranteed to get interestinger.

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: V

>

>

[Guest guest]

I've got my fingers crossed, believe me.

Re: SARS

Whats wrong with that? Well I cant be on the internet if Im going

through

that, thats one thing.

V