Guest guest Posted October 10, 1999 Report Share Posted October 10, 1999 You guys are all great and your messages are motivating - but I sure wish someone would address one or two, at least, of the questions I have written in about. I suppose I am on a slightly different sheet of music than most of you. At any rate, its nice to hear your stories all you seekers of " bodily " truths. Jeanie of AK Re: Help, New to er4yt > > > ** Original Sender: Eso@... > > > ** Original Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 18:00:43 EDT > > > > > ** Original Message follows... > > > > > > > > From: Eso@... > > > > > > In a message dated 10/08/1999 12:05:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > maria1030@... writes: > > > > > > << I sometimes like to eat out a lot, any type o's out there have any > ideas > > > what to get out? Chinese, Thai, Mexican, etc? >> > > > Fast food is just about impossible. " Menu " type restaurants give you > more > > > choice and therefore control over what you are getting. Chinese menus > with a > > > basic rice and entrees that are beef, seafood, chicken and veggies work > out > > > pretty well. Mexican will run into corn, sour cream, cheese. Thai is > heavy > > > on coconut and coconut milk. > > > > > > And you can't beat a good steak with a veggie salad. Learn to order > rice > > > instead of potatoes and you are all set. Same goes for seafood. You > almost > > > have to insult the waiter to avoid having a basket of bread set on the > table, > > > and it's hard to resist once it's there. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 1999 Report Share Posted October 11, 1999 Hi , Try getting some Tamari at a health food store...there are a lot of seasonings we O's can have...experiment...personally I really like the foods I'm eating and don't feel deprived. Rochelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 1999 Report Share Posted October 11, 1999 its cute does it rhymn with hey? Re: Help, New to er4yt > > > ** Original Sender: Eso@... > > > ** Original Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 18:00:43 EDT > > > > > ** Original Message follows... > > > > > > > > From: Eso@... > > > > > > In a message dated 10/08/1999 12:05:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > maria1030@... writes: > > > > > > << I sometimes like to eat out a lot, any type o's out there have any > ideas > > > what to get out? Chinese, Thai, Mexican, etc? >> > > > Fast food is just about impossible. " Menu " type restaurants give you > more > > > choice and therefore control over what you are getting. Chinese menus > with a > > > basic rice and entrees that are beef, seafood, chicken and veggies work > out > > > pretty well. Mexican will run into corn, sour cream, cheese. Thai is > heavy > > > on coconut and coconut milk. > > > > > > And you can't beat a good steak with a veggie salad. Learn to order > rice > > > instead of potatoes and you are all set. Same goes for seafood. You > almost > > > have to insult the waiter to avoid having a basket of bread set on the > table, > > > and it's hard to resist once it's there. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 1999 Report Share Posted October 11, 1999 Hey! Don't make fun of me! I can't help the dialect I use aye? LOL Debbie Re: Help, New to er4yt > > > ** Original Sender: Eso@... > > > ** Original Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 18:00:43 EDT > > > > > ** Original Message follows... > > > > > > > > From: Eso@... > > > > > > In a message dated 10/08/1999 12:05:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > maria1030@... writes: > > > > > > << I sometimes like to eat out a lot, any type o's out there have any > ideas > > > what to get out? Chinese, Thai, Mexican, etc? >> > > > Fast food is just about impossible. " Menu " type restaurants give you > more > > > choice and therefore control over what you are getting. Chinese menus > with a > > > basic rice and entrees that are beef, seafood, chicken and veggies work > out > > > pretty well. Mexican will run into corn, sour cream, cheese. Thai is > heavy > > > on coconut and coconut milk. > > > > > > And you can't beat a good steak with a veggie salad. Learn to order > rice > > > instead of potatoes and you are all set. Same goes for seafood. You > almost > > > have to insult the waiter to avoid having a basket of bread set on the > table, > > > and it's hard to resist once it's there. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 1999 Report Share Posted October 11, 1999 Hi, Jeanie! I'm sort of new to the this list, and don't know what questions you have written in about. What are some of them? Carol Re: Re: Re: Help, New to er4yt You guys are all great and your messages are motivating - but I sure wish someone would address one or two, at least, of the questions I have written in about. I suppose I am on a slightly different sheet of music than most of you. At any rate, its nice to hear your stories all you seekers of " bodily " truths. Jeanie of AK Re: Help, New to er4yt > > > ** Original Sender: Eso@... > > > ** Original Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 18:00:43 EDT > > > > > ** Original Message follows... > > > > > > > > From: Eso@... > > > > > > In a message dated 10/08/1999 12:05:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > maria1030@... writes: > > > > > > << I sometimes like to eat out a lot, any type o's out there have any > ideas > > > what to get out? Chinese, Thai, Mexican, etc? >> > > > Fast food is just about impossible. " Menu " type restaurants give you > more > > > choice and therefore control over what you are getting. Chinese menus > with a > > > basic rice and entrees that are beef, seafood, chicken and veggies work > out > > > pretty well. Mexican will run into corn, sour cream, cheese. Thai is > heavy > > > on coconut and coconut milk. > > > > > > And you can't beat a good steak with a veggie salad. Learn to order > rice > > > instead of potatoes and you are all set. Same goes for seafood. You > almost > > > have to insult the waiter to avoid having a basket of bread set on the > table, > > > and it's hard to resist once it's there. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 1999 Report Share Posted October 11, 1999 Stick to your own! I have always associated that spelling with ish dialects (my mother's heritage) and goodness knows, my southern drawl hasn't dwindled with the years. Betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 1999 Report Share Posted October 11, 1999 Terry, OK, it is time to get real. If the doctor sent you then you must be in trouble, since most doctors NEVER think of nutrition. Sounds like you have an exceptional one. Think ahead. Cook for several meals at once. Freeze stuff. There is no reason why you cannot have meat & vegs for breakfast. I know that you have had cold pizza plenty of times, right? So left over steak and whatever vegs that you like. Or a chicken breast cut into strips. Have some allowed vegs and an apple. You will be full and well nourished. If you are in a rush, then hard boiled egg once in a while. Now I don't want to hear that you don't like ------. (Fill in the blank here.) Just check your list and make a substitution. I am taking my highly beneficial vegs and adding lean stew meat and making a stew./soup. Make a great breakfast on a chilly morning. Esenne or Exekiel bread is a treat. I must stay far away from wheat and corn. Yes, it is hard, but it is better than the pain that I go through if I don't. Print out the avoid list off the Internet and post it up. Take it with you shopping. Do the same with the " highly beneficial list. " Yep, you will miss bread and pasta. I guarantee it. But I do love the lean ground beef and pinto beans with some spicy salsa, with some mango or papaya for desert. Or some roasted turkey (doesn't have to be the whole bird - parts is parts you know) with a baked sweet potato and a nice salad with a baked apple for dessert. Leftovers for another meal works for me. Someone posted a neat recipe for pumpkin muffins. I will try to look it up and repost it later. Most of the breads recipes are only neutral for O's. But worth a try if you have to have some. Get the Ezekiel Bread at your health food store and freeze it. Get the Cook Right 4YT book. It is worth it's weight in gold. Start out and see if you can eat just highly beneficial foods for a while. Forget what meal it is. Eat what you like. Always cook enough for another meal. You can do it and you will feel so much better. Keep in touch and let us know how you are doing. Good luck. Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 1999 Report Share Posted October 11, 1999 In a message dated 10/11/1999 8:31:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Sharpcats@... writes: << OK, it is time to get real. If the doctor sent you then you must be in trouble, since most doctors NEVER think of nutrition. Sounds like you have an exceptional one. Think ahead. Cook for several meals at once. Freeze stuff. There is no reason why you cannot have meat & vegs for breakfast. >> Good thinking Pam - Has anyone else found Ezekiel bagels in the health food freezer section? Great to take to the office to eat when everyone else is ordering bagels from the deli downstairs. Rice or garbanzo bean flour makes a wonderful coating to " flour " fish or chicken before they sizzle in a little oil. Or if you like a cracker crumb coating, crush a Wasa square and roll your fish fillet in that for a nice crisp crust. The point, of course, by focusing on the " I can have ... " you can find a good or even better way to fix just about anything. Betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 1999 Report Share Posted October 11, 1999 Pam, Thanks for the encouragement. My Doctor is a Gynecologist/surgeon. She is also a Clasical Homeopath. I see her as a Homeopathic Physician. She is very much into health and nutrition. Guess I need to just figure out some dishes that I can cook , and just do it. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 1999 Report Share Posted October 11, 1999 Betsy, Thanks for the suggestions. Garbanzo bean flour? Never heard of it. Will look for it. Time to try some new things. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 1999 Report Share Posted October 11, 1999 In a message dated 10/11/99 8:31:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Sharpcats@... writes: << Now I don't want to hear that you don't like ------. (Fill in the blank here.) Just check your list and make a substitution. >> Thankfully I do not have any dislikes. That should make it easier Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 1999 Report Share Posted October 11, 1999 In a message dated 10/8/99 12:30:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, adams@... writes: << ou bought the book on your doctor's orders? Wow! What kind of a doctor do you go to? My experience with MDs has been that most do not know very much about nutrition. I am also a fast-food junkie >> hi Carol, My Doctor is a gynocologist/ surgeon, and a classical Homeopath. I see her as a Homeopathic physician. She is very much into health and nutrition. I am just starting to learn about nutrition., I have a garbage diet that needs reforming. I need to loose some excess baggage, but good health is first. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 1999 Report Share Posted October 11, 1999 In a message dated 10/8/99 3:35:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jverner@... writes: << PS: What I do for salads is buy a couple of heads of lettuce - romaine and a leaf lettuce for instance and slice a few cucumbers and a whole stalk of celery and make it up to munch on for about 3-5 days. If its only for one only use one head of lettuce and less other stuff. I hate making salads, so this saves me some trouble. Just have to make sure you eat it quick enough. You can add other stuff to it as desired. Jeanie >> Thanks Jeanie, Good idea about the salad. Dressing is the hard part. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted October 12, 1999 Report Share Posted October 12, 1999 for salad dressing try olive oil [extra virgin] and lemon juice Re: Help, New to er4yt > From: Muddabler@... > > In a message dated 10/8/99 3:35:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > jverner@... writes: > > << > PS: What I do for salads is buy a couple of heads of lettuce - romaine > and a leaf lettuce for instance and slice a few cucumbers and a whole stalk > of celery and make it up to munch on for about 3-5 days. If its only for > one only use one head of lettuce and less other stuff. I hate making > salads, so this saves me some trouble. Just have to make sure you eat it > quick enough. You can add other stuff to it as desired. Jeanie > >> > Thanks Jeanie, > Good idea about the salad. Dressing is the hard part. > Terry > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 1999 Report Share Posted October 12, 1999 Wow, Pam, you are so encouraging! You weren't writing to me specifically, but I sure enjoyed reading your post to Terry. I am an O that is 59 years old, have eaten badly most of my life (without knowing it), was always thin because I didn't eat properly, and am now suffering for it. I have arthritic symptoms, am slightly overweight and soft, not much energy, etc., etc. I now know what I should do, and am trying to do it. Because I work in an office (8 hours) and drive (2 hours) it is quite difficult for me to shop for and keep in the house and prepare the foods I should be eating. Exercise is hard to fit in my schedule, too. Of course, I need all the encouragement I can get. Thanks for it! Carol Re: Help, New to er4yt From: Sharpcats@... Terry, OK, it is time to get real. If the doctor sent you then you must be in trouble, since most doctors NEVER think of nutrition. Sounds like you have an exceptional one. Think ahead. Cook for several meals at once. Freeze stuff. There is no reason why you cannot have meat & vegs for breakfast. I know that you have had cold pizza plenty of times, right? So left over steak and whatever vegs that you like. Or a chicken breast cut into strips. Have some allowed vegs and an apple. You will be full and well nourished. If you are in a rush, then hard boiled egg once in a while. Now I don't want to hear that you don't like ------. (Fill in the blank here.) Just check your list and make a substitution. I am taking my highly beneficial vegs and adding lean stew meat and making a stew./soup. Make a great breakfast on a chilly morning. Esenne or Exekiel bread is a treat. I must stay far away from wheat and corn. Yes, it is hard, but it is better than the pain that I go through if I don't. Print out the avoid list off the Internet and post it up. Take it with you shopping. Do the same with the " highly beneficial list. " Yep, you will miss bread and pasta. I guarantee it. But I do love the lean ground beef and pinto beans with some spicy salsa, with some mango or papaya for desert. Or some roasted turkey (doesn't have to be the whole bird - parts is parts you know) with a baked sweet potato and a nice salad with a baked apple for dessert. Leftovers for another meal works for me. Someone posted a neat recipe for pumpkin muffins. I will try to look it up and repost it later. Most of the breads recipes are only neutral for O's. But worth a try if you have to have some. Get the Ezekiel Bread at your health food store and freeze it. Get the Cook Right 4YT book. It is worth it's weight in gold. Start out and see if you can eat just highly beneficial foods for a while. Forget what meal it is. Eat what you like. Always cook enough for another meal. You can do it and you will feel so much better. Keep in touch and let us know how you are doing. Good luck. Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 1999 Report Share Posted October 12, 1999 Actually I can't remember now. I know one thing I was wondering was about the rice milk recipe someone wrote in about. Does someone know how to make it? Was also wondering if anyone has a good non wheat homemade pasta recipe (how to make the pasta itself). Also anyone know how to make rice milk ice cream like rice dream ice cream? (If you haven't tried it you should. MMMM.) THanks Carol. Jeanie> > > Hi, Jeanie! I'm sort of new to the this list, and don't know what questions > you have written in about. What are some of them? Carol > > Re: Re: Re: Help, New to er4yt > > You guys are all great and your messages are motivating - but I sure wish > someone would address one or two, at least, of the questions I have written > in about. I suppose I am on a slightly different sheet of music than most > of you. At any rate, its nice to hear your stories all you seekers of > " bodily " truths. Jeanie of AK > Re: Help, New to er4yt > > > > ** Original Sender: Eso@... > > > > ** Original Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 18:00:43 EDT > > > > > > > ** Original Message follows... > > > > > > > > > > > From: Eso@... > > > > > > > > In a message dated 10/08/1999 12:05:23 PM Eastern Daylight > Time, > > > > maria1030@... writes: > > > > > > > > << I sometimes like to eat out a lot, any type o's out > there have any > > ideas > > > > what to get out? Chinese, Thai, Mexican, etc? >> > > > > Fast food is just about impossible. " Menu " type > restaurants give you > > more > > > > choice and therefore control over what you are getting. > Chinese menus > > with a > > > > basic rice and entrees that are beef, seafood, chicken and > veggies work > > out > > > > pretty well. Mexican will run into corn, sour cream, > cheese. Thai is > > heavy > > > > on coconut and coconut milk. > > > > > > > > And you can't beat a good steak with a veggie salad. Learn > to order > > rice > > > > instead of potatoes and you are all set. Same goes for > seafood. You > > almost > > > > have to insult the waiter to avoid having a basket of bread > set on the > > table, > > > > and it's hard to resist once it's there. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted October 15, 1999 Report Share Posted October 15, 1999 About the pinto beas and red beans in Mexican food, it's not the beans that will make you feel bad, it's the corn tortillas or the flour tortillas. BK nope wrote: > From: " nope " <maria1030@...> > > Thanks Carol! > > With Chinese, a lot of the sauces contain cornstarch and msg. I got some > scallops and veggies the other day, but they were plain. Good but plain. I > feel deprived!! > > >From: Carol <adams@...> > >Reply-onelist > > " 'onelist' " <onelist> > >Subject: RE: Help, New to er4yt > >Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 12:02:56 -0500 > > > >From: Carol <adams@...> > > > >Hi, ! I eat out frequently because I'm at the office during the day, > >and one of the 'stand-bys' I rely on is chicken Caesar salad because it has > >the romaine lettuce and the chicken, although I know it has parmesan cheese > >which is an avoid, and I try to avoid it by scraping off the lettuce leaves > >if I can. I guess I'm bound to ingest a little, but I try not to since I > >don't particularly like the taste, anyway. Also, I don't eat the croutons. > >I also ask for dressing on the side, which I apply sparingly if at all. I > >know it's not the best answer but because we lead such busy lives, > >sometimes we just have to do the best we can do. My dream is to stay home > >and cook properly but right now I have to suffer through and feel bad > >because of it. When I follow the O diet, I feel so much better. As far as > >Mexican food is concerned, I believe they use either pinto beans or red > >beans, which of course we can eat. Rice is a neutral. Chinese food has all > >those vegetables and rice, so it seems like it would be good for us, but > >you know how it is with food you don't prepare yourself. You don't know > >what's in there. Any ideas, anyone? Carol > > > > Re: Help, New to er4yt > > >Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 23:21:15 -0700 > > > > > >From: " jverner " <jverner@...> > > > > > > > > >Great idea for dressing! I like olive oil with lemon juice and vegit - > >but > > >like the idea of tamari. Jeanie > > > > > > > > > A great simple > > > > salad dressing is olive oil, lime or lemon juice, and a little > > >wheat-free > > > > tamari. > > > > > > > > Just take it one step at a time, and let us know how you are doing. > > > > Betsy > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 1999 Report Share Posted October 15, 1999 This is getting boring. BK RHiatt0221@... wrote: > From: RHiatt0221@... > > In a message dated 10/12/99 2:52:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > jverner@... writes: > > << -unsubscribeonelist >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 1999 Report Share Posted October 15, 1999 " Bangel, Right! You can't get away from corn in a Mexican restaurant, can you? That's too bad. Of course I love those refried beans! Carol Re: Help, New to er4yt From: bangel@... About the pinto beas and red beans in Mexican food, it's not the beans that will make you feel bad, it's the corn tortillas or the flour tortillas. BK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 1999 Report Share Posted October 15, 1999 Yeah, or the whole wheat tortillas. (Sight!) Aikya Re: Help, New to er4yt > > > >Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 23:21:15 -0700 > > > > > > > >From: " jverner " <jverner@...> > > > > > > > > > > > >Great idea for dressing! I like olive oil with lemon juice and vegit - > > >but > > > >like the idea of tamari. Jeanie > > > > > > > > > > > > A great simple > > > > > salad dressing is olive oil, lime or lemon juice, and a little > > > >wheat-free > > > > > tamari. > > > > > > > > > > Just take it one step at a time, and let us know how you are doing. > > > > > Betsy > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 1999 Report Share Posted October 25, 1999 In a message dated 10/11/1999 8:07:50 PM Mountain Daylight Time, Muddabler@... writes: << From: Muddabler@... Pam, Thanks for the encouragement. My Doctor is a Gynecologist/surgeon. She is also a Clasical Homeopath. I see her as a Homeopathic Physician. She is very much into health and nutrition. Guess I need to just figure out some dishes that I can cook , and just do it. Terry >> Right, good for you! And the important thing is to find something that you really like. And make that your treat. There are so many things that we CAN have. I too, get stuck when I am starving for anything sweet and chocolate. So maybe I will have some shrimp and rice instead. I find that I crave spicy food. When I am feeling deprived I eat something legal, with tons of flavor. That helps me a lot. But somedays the ever present salad just doesn't make it. Especially now that the cold weather is setting in. When the low pressure hits I have lots of pain in my body. It is not the low temp, but that also comes along with the pressure change. Then is when I pamper myself with big bowls of legal soup, and beans and rice. Since I am very carbohydrate sensitive I have to eat the latter sparingly. but I spice it up with red peppers and enjoy it occasionally. The soup I can balance more carefully. But it is hot, and since I make a ton and freeze it, it is also quick. I can add crushed red peppers or other spices. It makes a nice change from the beef and salad or green vegetable routine. Good luck and keep in touch. Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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