Re: new...again, Chris too.

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In a message dated 3/13/03 3:18:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,

wanitawa@... writes:

> know you've mentioned you work washing

> dishes

> at college. There is a lot of chlorine in automatic dishwasher cleaner.

Hi Wanita,

I don't think I come into contact with much of the chlorine, but I coudl be

wrong. When I " wash " dishes it is pre-washing them in the " bowl " which like

a sink with a stream of water that runs continuously and we pre-scrub the

dishes, but it is plain water. It might be chlorinated though, but with

gloves, my hands usually stay dry *more or less*. I won't be working there

after this semester, so we'll see if anything improves.

Chris

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

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In a message dated 3/13/03 3:58:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,

wanitawa@... writes:

> The inhalation of chlorine in pools, from powdered cleaners and likely

> dishwashers running too is what seems to be the link. Drinking it as bad or

> worse. On the skin it seems would be a harder way to be absorbed.

A guy showed me a demonstration once where he had two glasses of the same

water. He tested one for chlorine and it was beyond what is supposed to be

in the pool. He had me put my finger in the other for ten seconds and tested

it afterwards and it was very very light in chlorine, absorbed almost all of

it through my finger.

My total chlorine intake is vastly lower than it was, say, six years ago,

when I didn't have teeth problems. So while it might aggravate the problem,

it isn't the *cause* per se. I will try to avoid chlorinated jobs in the

future. Thanks.

Chris

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

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At 05:10 AM 3/13/03 -0800, you wrote:

>My husband had 4 mercury fillings put in in 1997.  Immediately after getting

them he began grinding his teeth at night.  That lasted for about 2 months. 

Then he started getting mouth ulcers.  We thought all this was from stress at

work.  We moved to the country and were off flouridated water for 4 years. 

The

mouth ulcers became infrequent.  During the last year and a half, he noticed

his gums receding.  We kept thinking that our WAP diet would fix that problem.

>

>6 months ago, we moved back to the city.  Back to flouridated water.  The

ulcers returned.  His gums began receding at a fast and furious rate.  Finally

we thought to do a search to see if the mercury fillings and receding gums

were

related.  Bingo.  It's the only explanation we can find for his 29 year old

gums to be receding so.

>Thanks,

>Bethany

Bethany,

Is the water also chlorinated? Light bulb went off at work today. About 6

months ago I read a net article that linked tooth loosening in children to

swimming in chlorinated pools. About 5 years ago I started cleaning private

homes and just used chlorinated powders for toilet cleaning. I've always had

bad teeth, never had a filling or teeth grinding that I know of because

finances throughout life only allowed for emergency pulling. Mouth ulcers got

worse with this work and loosening. Since I found that article I stopped using

chlorine. The loosening got better. The mouth ulcers didn't stop completely

until I gave up bread too. know you've mentioned you work washing

dishes

at college. There is a lot of chlorine in automatic dishwasher cleaner.

Wanita

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At 03:25 PM 3/13/03 -0500, you wrote:

>In a message dated 3/13/03 3:18:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,

>wanitawa@... writes:

>

>> know you've mentioned you work washing

>>  dishes

>>  at college. There is a lot of chlorine in automatic dishwasher cleaner.

>

>Hi Wanita,

>

>I don't think I come into contact with much of the chlorine, but I coudl be

>wrong.  When I " wash " dishes it is pre-washing them in the " bowl " which like

>a sink with a stream of water that runs continuously and we pre-scrub the

>dishes, but it is plain water.  It might be chlorinated though, but with

>gloves, my hands usually stay dry *more or less*.  I won't be working there

>after this semester, so we'll see if anything improves.

>

>Chris

Hi

The inhalation of chlorine in pools, from powdered cleaners and likely

dishwashers running too is what seems to be the link. Drinking it as bad or

worse. On the skin it seems would be a harder way to be absorbed.

Wanita

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> In a message dated 3/13/03 3:58:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> wanitawa@b... writes:

>

> A guy showed me a demonstration once where he had two glasses of

the same

> water. He tested one for chlorine and it was beyond what is

supposed to be

> in the pool. He had me put my finger in the other for ten seconds

and tested

> it afterwards and it was very very light in chlorine, absorbed

almost all of

> it through my finger.

>

>

Why was he doing that demonstration?

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> > In a message dated 3/13/03 3:58:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> > wanitawa@b... writes:

> >

> > A guy showed me a demonstration once where he had two glasses of

> the same

> > water. He tested one for chlorine and it was beyond what is

> supposed to be

> > in the pool. He had me put my finger in the other for ten

seconds

> and tested

> > it afterwards and it was very very light in chlorine, absorbed

> almost all of

> > it through my finger.

> >

> >

>

>

> Why was he doing that demonstration?

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Chris-

>A guy showed me a demonstration once where he had two glasses of the same

>water. He tested one for chlorine and it was beyond what is supposed to be

>in the pool. He had me put my finger in the other for ten seconds and tested

>it afterwards and it was very very light in chlorine, absorbed almost all of

>it through my finger.

How much chlorine was in the other glass to begin with, though, and how

much was lost during that time to evaporation? (Not that I'm disputing

that chlorine can be absorbed through the skin, though the lungs probably

absorb lots more in the shower.)

-

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In a message dated 3/14/03 1:01:40 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Idol@... writes:

> How much chlorine was in the other glass to begin with, though, and how

> much was lost during that time to evaporation? (Not that I'm disputing

> that chlorine can be absorbed through the skin, though the lungs probably

> absorb lots more in the shower.)

I don't know, but they'd both been sitting there for a while, longer than the

30 seconds in between testing each of them.

Chris

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

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>

> >Regarding water filters. Getting people involved with selling

them.

> >Demonstrating the need for them. Maybe the whole thing was a

trick; don't

> >know.

> >

> >Chris

>

> I don't think it is a trick, but I wonder about the reactions of

chlorine.

> I know hydrogen peroxide " goes away " really quickly as

> soon as it comes into contact with anything organic (which is

> supposed to be a bacteria or virus).

<>>><><><><><><><><Can you describe the test or was a paper test

strip used? The test strips are not very accurate. Dennis<>>><>>

> I don't remember what the form is, but I'd guess it does not

> show up on the test he was using.

>

>

>

> Heidi S