Re: meat, flax, coffee, success

[Guest guest]

" Hi, Diane from Wine Country! I really enjoyed your post! You give me hope!

I have not been as faithful to the diet as you have been, and I have not

had good results. I am convinced that this diet and way of life is the way

to go for my body, but I am having some trouble implementing these changes.

One of the reasons is one you expressed also, working full time and junk

food junkieism! I don't know your age, but I think my age works against me

also (59) because I have been doing the wrong things for so long a time.

What I am trying to implement right now is some structured changes. I

do better with structure. I want to figure out a 30 day plan for exercise,

menus, and so on. I am sure I will feel much better by 30 days and then

can go on. I am so busy that it's difficult to devote much time to setting

up a schedule like that, and I need to convince my husband so he will

partner with me on this. What you mentioned about the steaks and salad is

perfect for me to fix after work. I knew that but I guess I forgot about

it. I am going to buy some steaks today!

You mentioned lignan flax oil. I went to the frig to see what I have,

since I just bought some yesterday and hadn't opened it yet. I bought

Barlean's Lignan Rich Flax Oil. Cost $11.25/12 fl. oz. (Midwest prices). I

took a spoonful and found it to be pretty much what I'm used to. I didn't

notice any yellow flecks. Are you sure yours is supposed to have flecks?

Maybe you should call the store.

I also have a serious coffee habit to overcome. I was off coffee a few

months ago and on to green tea, but I can't seem to drink it without a

spoonful or two of honey. I don't know if that's bad or not. But I'm back

on the coffee now. I am going to try to get rid of that habit. I always

carried a tea bag or two with me and just asked for hot water in

restaurants. They don't usually charge you for hot water. But if they did,

I figured, oh, well, at least I wasn't putting their tea in my body. I'll

look for that Gun Powder Green tea you mentioned. That sounds pretty good.

I loved your meat tips, too. I didn't know those things about the different

cuts, but now I know! That will help with meat selection. Thanks a lot!

I also used to eat microwave meals after work. Since I got married 4 years

ago, I don't do that any more. My husband says that microwave ovens take a

lot of nutrients out of the food. Do you know if that's true?

You have so many good ideas that refresh my memory that I am going to tack

your post up on my refrigerator. Thanks so much! Carol "

When I first started the transition to eating right, I had to give up a

serious coffee habit first. I used to drink about 20 ozs every morning,

with equal, coffeemate, and flavored lightener. It was a several

hundred calorie substitute for a real breakfast! I switched to green

tea so I didn't have to completely withdraw from caffeine. For several

weeks I had to have an afternoon cup too or I got a powerful headache.

Now I just have a 20 oz cup of Gun Powder Green tea with stevia every

morning. (It's good for me and I love it!)

I still have the occasional coffee. A soy milk latte if I'm feeling

more compliant, or a breve if not (made with half and half.) I try to

limit my coffee to a couple cups per week since I know how easy it

would be for me to slip back into addictive coffee consumption. I'd

like to give up coffee for good, but don't think that's realistic since

I enjoy it so much. At least now when I drink it, it's because I choose

to have some for the pure pleasure, not because I can't face the world

without it. I'm thinking of printing that list of bad things about

coffee and reading it before I go for a latte since it was a rather

compelling list.

My feeling is you should buy the best quality, lowest fat meat you can

possibly afford. I mostly get filet mignon because every bit of it goes

into my stomach and not the cats or the fat jar. I'd like to buy 100%

organic beef but I usually get cost-co steaks since they are much

cheaper than regular store prices. (I freeze them individually) I try

to only eat 3 to 5 ozs so my daily cost isn't that much. I like grilled

steaks because they take the least amount of time and work to prepare

and we all know how much work is involved in following this diet.

T-bone steaks are a nice alternative but I hate paying for bones. If

you do buy a T-bone, try to get one with the small side of the T as big

as possible. A T bone is just a filet mignon on the small side of the

bone and a new york strip on the other. Most stores sell T-bones with

the filet side trimmed down to practically nothing. If that's the case,

you might as well buy a boneless new york strip and save some money by

not paying for a bone.

Rib eyes are my second choice for steak buying. They have more fat as a

rule, but they sure are tasty. I usually only get them when they are on

sale.

I like ground beef for burgers since they are low work too. I usually

get the leanest beef I can find (at costco, I wish they sold organic!)

and freeze it in burger shaped or 1/2 lb. portions. I bought one of

those plastic burger shaper thingys and have been so glad I did. It

makes shopping day go so much faster since I can freeze up 3 lbs of beef

into patties in no time.

If I'm not having steak or burgers, I buy really cheap meat, what ever

is on sale at the best price, and lowest in fat. Round steak works

great in stews, soups, and stir fry (top round is better quality than

bottom round if I am not mistaken.) Stew meat is fine too if the price

is close to round steak but they usually charge more because it is

already cut up. I bought a dehydrator recently (another fantastic

investment for type O's) and I get the lowest fat beef roast or large

steak and slice it for beef jerky. I bought some London Broil on sale

last time I made jerky. It came out great. I use my cuisinart to slice

it for the most consistent results. (Another investment since ER4YT,

and well worth it.)

I work full time and before ER4YT I was a junkfood junkie and cooked

most meals from a frozen box in the microwave. (Pasta garbage..... no

wonder I felt lousy.) My cooking time during the work week is pretty

limited, that's why I depend on single portion steaks and burgers. I

save the creative cooking for weekends. (And always freeze half of what

I make for mid-week.) I buy the convenience salad stuff because I know

I will eat it if I only half to open the bag and pour. I get broccoli

flowerettes too. A steak on my grill and some broccoli in the microwave

and I'm eating right after a hard day at work in about 15 minutes or

less. Sure, I pay more, but the money I am not spending at Burger King

and so on makes up for it.

I never would have thought I could go an

entire year (almost) without eating any cake, cookies, brownies, chips,

popcorn, potatoes and so on,

I have a question now (if anyone is still reading this) . . . I recently

got some high lignan flax oil (spectrum natural) and can't stand the

taste. I love the taste of regular flax oil and so I can't tell if

maybe I got some rancid oil or not. Has anyone tried both kinds of flax

oil by spectrum naturals? Does the high lignan variety have a different

taste? And does it always have those funny looking yellow flecks in

it? I'm tempted to take it back to the store and get an exchange but

I'm afraid it's not the oil and I will just dislike the taste of a new

bottle too. Any help from experienced flax oil drinkers is much

appreciated. (I have a rule for myself . . . no chocolate until I've

had my daily dose of flax and the taste of the high lignan is really

turning me off!)

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/15/1999 2:48:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

jverner@... writes:

<< Whats the deal with flax

seed anyway? >>

Hi Jeannie,

Flax seed and oil is supposed to be very good for your heart, cholesterol,

etc. It is loaded with omega oils.

Regards,

Sharon

[Guest guest]

Hi Diane - rather than trim I just deleted. For an antidepressant I use 5 HTP.

I have Fibromyalgia so my seratonin levels are low. I also have low thyroid and

refused to start drugs for it and brought it up by using Kelp and then this

stuff called T-100. Basically its a glandular supplement with bladderwrack,

etc. in it. Maybe eventually you can find a similar supplement or you can buy

the T-100 at www.ldfr.com Its $12.

Never had the coffee habit but my husband does. May see if he will try the

green tea to wean with.

I guess I've been on this diet for several months and do feel a difference.

Haven't been as good as you. Have been going to spelt pastas, etc. Have a beef

allergy so eating more chicken, fish, etc. instead. Anyway - enjoyed your

intro. Twas inspirational. I'm hurting a lot for some reason so am not real

enthusiastic right now. Don't know if this Alaskan weather is so good for me.

Anyone have any experience that way of those of you with Inflammatory type

problems? Cold bother you? Jeanie

[Guest guest]

Hi Carol, I'm 39 so you have 20 years on me, but I still have some powerful

health problems to overcome. It takes time. I have to remind myself of

that too. I was inspired by what Diane said too. Do any of you notice pain

correlations with corn? I cheated recently. It throws my blood sugar off,

so I guess its a spiral effect. Better shape up. Whats the deal with flax

seed anyway? Jeanie

[Guest guest]

Thank you Carol - I seem to crave salmon sometimes. Interesting. Where in

the midwest are you from? I am originally from Southern Illinois. Jeanie

> From: Carol <adams@...>

>

> Hi, Jeanie. Thanks for the encouragement. FYI, some info about flax: it

is

> one of the essential highly unsaturated omega-3 fatty acids. You can also

> get those from salmon, sardines, herring, mackerel. Some of the benefits

> are to alleviate stiffness and pain in joints, and they are good for skin

> and hair. Carol

>

> Re: meat, flax, coffee, success

>

> From: " jverner " <jverner@...>

>

> Hi Carol, I'm 39 so you have 20 years on me, but I still have some

> powerful

> health problems to overcome. It takes time. I have to remind myself of

> that too. I was inspired by what Diane said too. Do any of you notice

> pain

> correlations with corn? I cheated recently. It throws my blood sugar

off,

> so I guess its a spiral effect. Better shape up. Whats the deal with

flax

> seed anyway? Jeanie

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Jeanie. Thanks for the encouragement. FYI, some info about flax: it is

one of the essential highly unsaturated omega-3 fatty acids. You can also

get those from salmon, sardines, herring, mackerel. Some of the benefits

are to alleviate stiffness and pain in joints, and they are good for skin

and hair. Carol

Re: meat, flax, coffee, success

From: " jverner " <jverner@...>

Hi Carol, I'm 39 so you have 20 years on me, but I still have some

powerful

health problems to overcome. It takes time. I have to remind myself of

that too. I was inspired by what Diane said too. Do any of you notice

pain

correlations with corn? I cheated recently. It throws my blood sugar off,

so I guess its a spiral effect. Better shape up. Whats the deal with flax

seed anyway? Jeanie

[Guest guest]

Hi again. I find that damp and cold together seem to bother my achy, breaky

joints. When the weather gets like that here, I want to stretch out in my

recliner with an afghan, a hot cup of tea, and a good book! This isn't

Alaska, but here in the Midwest it feels like it sometimes. Carol

Re: meat, flax, coffee, success

I guess I've been on this diet for several months and do feel a difference.

Haven't been as good as you. Have been going to spelt pastas, etc. Have

a beef allergy so eating more chicken, fish, etc. instead. Anyway -

enjoyed your intro. Twas inspirational. I'm hurting a lot for some reason

so am not real enthusiastic right now. Don't know if this Alaskan weather

is so good for me. Anyone have any experience that way of those of you

with Inflammatory type problems? Cold bother you? Jeanie

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[Guest guest]

Hi, Jeanie. I live in the Chicago area but I think southern Illinois is the

beautiful area of the state. I don't like all the traffic and congestion

around here. Did you say you live in AK? Carol

Re: meat, flax, coffee, success

From: " jverner " <jverner@...>

Thank you Carol - I seem to crave salmon sometimes. Interesting. Where in

the midwest are you from? I am originally from Southern Illinois. Jeanie

> From: Carol <adams@...>

>

> Hi, Jeanie. Thanks for the encouragement. FYI, some info about flax: it

is

> one of the essential highly unsaturated omega-3 fatty acids. You can

also

> get those from salmon, sardines, herring, mackerel. Some of the benefits

> are to alleviate stiffness and pain in joints, and they are good for skin

> and hair. Carol

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: jverner [sMTP:jverner@...]

> Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 12:49 PM

> onelist

>

[Guest guest]

I was finally getting around to checking those web sites about green tea

and the thyroid and now I can't find that message. Can anyone provide

those sites again?

Thanks

Eddie

[Guest guest]

A fellow Illinoisan! I prefer smaller towns myself. I'm from West

fort if you've ever heard of it. Its down by n and Carbondale. I

went to Chicago once and it was overwhelmingly huge but there is an

excitement about it. I grew up in St. Louis too - well - for a couple of

years of my life and visited a lot, but I like the simple life a little

more. left home when I was about 19, though, only going back for summers

after that and then not at all anymore. My mom and sister and brother and a

few remaining relatives all still live there. We don't get as cold as you

guys up there - but I sure have gone through some beastly hot summers. Felt

tropical at times. I went to school in UT and got married - then my husband

went active duty so since have lived in WA, VA (twice), KS and, yes, now

Alaska. Jeanie

> From: Carol <adams@...>

>

> Hi, Jeanie. I live in the Chicago area but I think southern Illinois is

the

> beautiful area of the state. I don't like all the traffic and congestion

> around here. Did you say you live in AK? Carol

>

> Re: meat, flax, coffee, success

>

> From: " jverner " <jverner@...>

>

> Thank you Carol - I seem to crave salmon sometimes. Interesting. Where

in

> the midwest are you from? I am originally from Southern Illinois. Jeanie

>

> > From: Carol <adams@...>

> >

> > Hi, Jeanie. Thanks for the encouragement. FYI, some info about flax: it

> is

> > one of the essential highly unsaturated omega-3 fatty acids. You can

> also

> > get those from salmon, sardines, herring, mackerel. Some of the

benefits

> > are to alleviate stiffness and pain in joints, and they are good for

skin

> > and hair. Carol

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: jverner [sMTP:jverner@...]

> > Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 12:49 PM

> > onelist

> >

>

> >

[Guest guest]

> From: J McBrearty <edmcbre@...>

>

> I was finally getting around to checking those web sites about green tea

> and the thyroid and now I can't find that message. Can anyone provide

> those sites again?

>

> Thanks

> Eddie

> Here you go Eddie: Jeanie

>

The Nutrition Truth Newsletter - Medicine for the New Millennium

by Adlhoch CNC

awake@...

***************************************************************

" Fluoride, contributor of Hypothyroidism "

Do you drink black or green tea?

Do you brush with teeth with fluoride toothpaste? Do you drink fluoridated

tap

water?

Are any of your medications loaded with fluoride?

If any of the above applies to you, you could be contributing to the

malfunction of

your

thyroid and more.

Most of you wonderful subscribers know that I am a champion of taking very

good care

of

your thyroid. If anyone has not read my report on Hypothyroidism, and how

vital it

is

to test your own thyroid, please simply request a copy by email. Suffice to

say, if

your

thyroid is low and it goes undiagnosed by your doctor (very common), you'll

feel a

'little' nutty, depressed, tired, emotional, dry skin and hair, high

cholesterol,

diabetes complications to name a few. Lack of iodine in the diet, hereditary

and

stress related symptoms are the main causes. Another cause has come to light

that

you should all be aware of.

Fluoride toxicity causes Hypothyroidism! One of the treatments for

hyPERthyroidism,

over functioning thyroid, is fluoride.

Now, if anyone thinks fluoride is important and necessary for tooth decay,

you'll be

surprised to learn that the whole fluoride story is nothing more than a

media and

corporate manipulation.

In Dr. Bragg's book " The shocking truth about water " , he tells this

interesting

story about how fluoride became so popular. " In 1939, a famous institute

commissioned the institute's biochemist to find a use for the sodium

fluoride wastes

produced by aluminum pot lines. Some 45 other industries had fluoride

disposal

problems too. The cost of elimination of the chemical was fantastically

high.

Couldn't this by-product be put to a profitable use instead? "

Then these 'wise' biochemists came up with a bright idea! Why not convince

the

public that fluoride prevents tooth decay and we'll dissolve the stuff in

drinking

water? Not one clinical study was done to prove this fact. But companies who

were

bedeviled with the sodium fluoride wastes loved it! They simply turned the

idea over

to an advertising company, who in turn did an awesome job of brainwashing us

for

generations to come. Dentists in turn had to go along with this scam since

the

public was so brainwashed, they questioned their dentist's credibility if he

didn't

recommend fluoride.

If your local tap water is fluoridated, it's because big business will lobby

tooth

and nail to keep it that way, they haven't found a more perfect place to

dump their

toxic waste.

Another unknown source of fluoride is black and green. Both teas absorb a

high

amount of fluoride from pollution in the soil and air. One cup of tea is

equivalent

to 7.8 liters of fluoridated water! Just look to the English for proof that

flouride

is not the potion people think it is...they drink an outrageous amount of

tea and

look at their teeth, which are even on Jay Leno's joke list. ha.

If you're using green tea as an antioxidant, buy it in the capsule form

only.

Psycho tropic drugs like Prozac and Valium are also high in fluoride. One of

the web

sites listed below describes the symptoms of fluoride toxicity, they include

unusually aggressive behavior, which is what is believed to be the cause of

increase

aggression in Prozac users!

Toothpaste is something we all use everyday. It is one of the worst sources

of

fluoride. And don't be fooled by the natural brand " Tom's " , they too have

succumbed

to outside pressures providing a non-fluoridated AND a fluoridated

toothpaste, so

be sure to read the label.

Generally, you can find non-fluoridated toothpastes at your local health

store. I

highly recommend one that has tea tree oil in it, if you can handle the

taste. (-:

The greatest damage done to the body by fluoride is to the thyroid;

THYROID HORMONES

Thyroid hormones are extremely important in the

regulation of

metabolic

processes and brain development. Every cell in the body

depends

upon

thyroid hormones for regulation of their metabolism.

Many of the symptoms documented in the vast literature

on the

subject of

chronic or low-grade fluoride poisoning can be directly

related to

thyroid

functions and disorders. One of the most prominent

features of

preskeletal

fluorosis is the extraordinary general fatigue experienced

by most

sufferers, a

marked weakness usually linked to low activity of the

thyroid

gland. (2) This

has been reported since the classic 1930's Roholm study on

cryolite workers

exposed to fluorides, a study which still serves as the

basis for

occupational

fluoride exposure regulations. (73) At the time of

Roholm's work

the

specialized field of " endocrinology " was yet to be

recognized as a

reputable

discipline. Thyroid diseases were poorly understood. From

1940 to

1970, the

application of radioiodine improved this understanding

immeasurably. Fragu

(74) writes: " The main transformations brought about by

this tool

were the

knowledge of radioiodine uptake mechanisms, basis of its

therapeutic effect,

complete identification of thyroid hormonosynthesis, serum

transport of

thyroid hormones and thyroid imaging. More recently

immunological

and

molecular paradigms changed the understanding of thyroid

diseases. "

It is only in the last two decades during which

endocrinology

has progressed

so rapidly, that now over 150 symptoms and associations

can be

identified in

hypothyroidism. Almost all(!) correlate with known

symptoms of

fluoride

poisoning.(74) Most of the double-blind test results of

fluoride

poisoning

found in Moolenburgh's study on water containing 1ppm of

fluoride

- which

led to the ban of fluoridation in Holland - are now

recognized

symptoms of

hypothyroidism. (75) The effects of fluoride on the

thyroid gland

have been

studied so extensively, that it baffles the mind how

experts on

thyroid disease

from Harvard or the University of Toronto can claim that

fluorides

do not

affect thyroid gland function, especially when it has been

used as

medication

to do just that! (76) This stance just defies all

knowledge

properly gained in

the last 70 years of related research. One cannot find

any

mention of fluorides

in ANY current " official " thyroid disease related

literature. And

this at fluoride

intake levels and at dental fluorosis rates as high as

they are!

Already in 1940 authors H. and Floyd DeEds

from

the

United States Department of Agriculture (discussing the

role of

fluorine in

pesticide sprays), wrote:

" Should a spray residue tolerance limit for fluorine be

set to

protect the

normal, the hyperthyroid, or the hypothyroid individual?

....

should the

tolerance limit take into consideration that in certain

areas the

public is already

exposed to a fluorine intake in the drinking water? " (77)

We have posted over 100 studies documenting the adverse

effects

of

fluoride on the thyroid gland from the last 70 years or so

in the

Virtual Library

on Fluoride Research (78) at:

http://www.bruha.com/fluoride/html/thyroid_studies.htm

OK, folks, I think you get the picture. If you're interested in doing any

further

research, go to these websites for a wealth of information on this subject.

And much

thanks to s for sending me these;

GREEN TEA, FLUORIDE AND THE THYROID(Open Letter)

http://www.bruha.com/fluoride/html/green_tea___f.htm

COMPARISON OF SYMPTOMS:FLUORIDE POISONING/HYPOTHYROIDISM

http://www.bruha.com/fluoride/html/symptoms_hypo_f.htm

FLUORIDE IN FOOD

http://www.bruha.com/fluoride/html/f-_in_food.htm

FLUORIDE VIRTUAL LIBRARY

http://www.bruha.com/fluoride/html/virtual_library.htm

FLUORIDE FAQ SHEET:

http://www.bruha.com/fluoride/index.htm

Eat kelp or take kelp supplements everyday, especially if you're sitting in

front

of a computer all day, your sense of well being depends on it.

We're approaching the most stressful time of the year, not to mention the

stress

of wondering what's really going to happen with Y2K, so protect yourself

early

with Kelp, Vit C, protein, good fats, jokes, TLC and doing something you

love.

Deep peace, abundant health and soulful thoughts,

Adlhoch CNC

awake@...

Online tip;

Windows Y2K Fix;

(Note, this is for Windows only, not for your computer)

1) Double click on " My Computer " .

2) Double click on " Control Panel " .

3) Double click on " Regional Settings " icon.

4) Click on the " Date " tab at the top of the page.

Where it says, " Short Date Sample " , look and see if

it shows a " two digit " year. Of course it does.

That's the default setting for Windows 95, Windows 98

and NT. This date RIGHT HERE is the date that feeds

application software and WILL NOT rollover in the

year 2000. It will roll over to 00.

5) Click on the button across from " Short Date Style " and

select the option that shows, mm/dd/yyyy.

(Be sure your, selection has four Y's showing, not two).

6) Then click on " Apply " and then click on " OK " at the bottom.

Easy enough to fix.

However, every single installation of Windows

worldwide is defaulted to fail Y2K rollover.

How many people know about it? How many people know

to change that? What will be the effect? Who knows.

Now that YOU know - pass it on.

[Guest guest]

I didn't know maltodextrin was a corn derivative. Good grief. I was

thinking today about pioneer times when things were not refined to death. I

wonder if people back then had all these reactions and problems. I just

related corn to blood sugar reactions - but I sure have been hurting and

thats the only thing I can think of that I have eaten. No convenience foods

for us anymore huh? Jeanie

n or some corn product slips by me (corn syrup EVERYWHERE,

> maltodextrin hiding in every crevice!!!), my feet and ankles swell and the

> bottom of my feet burn. If I didn't realize I ate a corn something or

> other, my ouchy feet will get me reviewing what went in my mouth. Sure

> enough, something will have corn. Maltodextrin is the one that puts me

into

> a temper. I found it in the cranberry extract I was taking to help my

> kidneys along. Mean!

>

> Aikya

>

> Re: meat, flax, coffee, success

>

>

> > From: " jverner " <jverner@...>

> >

> > Hi Carol, I'm 39 so you have 20 years on me, but I still have some

> powerful

> > health problems to overcome. It takes time. I have to remind myself of

> > that too. I was inspired by what Diane said too. Do any of you notice

> pain

> > correlations with corn? I cheated recently. It throws my blood sugar

> off,

> > so I guess its a spiral effect. Better shape up. Whats the deal with

> flax

> > seed anyway? Jeanie

> >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi

When I eat corn or some corn product slips by me (corn syrup EVERYWHERE,

maltodextrin hiding in every crevice!!!), my feet and ankles swell and the

bottom of my feet burn. If I didn't realize I ate a corn something or

other, my ouchy feet will get me reviewing what went in my mouth. Sure

enough, something will have corn. Maltodextrin is the one that puts me into

a temper. I found it in the cranberry extract I was taking to help my

kidneys along. Mean!

Aikya

Re: meat, flax, coffee, success

> From: " jverner " <jverner@...>

>

> Hi Carol, I'm 39 so you have 20 years on me, but I still have some

powerful

> health problems to overcome. It takes time. I have to remind myself of

> that too. I was inspired by what Diane said too. Do any of you notice

pain

> correlations with corn? I cheated recently. It throws my blood sugar

off,

> so I guess its a spiral effect. Better shape up. Whats the deal with

flax

> seed anyway? Jeanie

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Aikya - you probably already told us, but just curious how old you are. Are

you originally from CA? Jeanie

>

> Hi

>

> When I eat corn or some corn product slips by me (corn syrup EVERYWHERE,

> maltodextrin hiding in every crevice!!!), my feet and ankles swell and the

> bottom of my feet burn. If I didn't realize I ate a corn something or

> other, my ouchy feet will get me reviewing what went in my mouth. Sure

> enough, something will have corn. Maltodextrin is the one that puts me

into

> a temper. I found it in the cranberry extract I was taking to help my

> kidneys along. Mean!

>

> Aikya

>

> Re: meat, flax, coffee, success

>

>

> > From: " jverner " <jverner@...>

> >

> > Hi Carol, I'm 39 so you have 20 years on me, but I still have some

> powerful

> > health problems to overcome. It takes time. I have to remind myself of

> > that too. I was inspired by what Diane said too. Do any of you notice

> pain

> > correlations with corn? I cheated recently. It throws my blood sugar

> off,

> > so I guess its a spiral effect. Better shape up. Whats the deal with

> flax

> > seed anyway? Jeanie

> >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Carol,

Where in the Midwest are you? I am in KCMO

Rochelle

[Guest guest]

I didn't know about maltodextrin either...aaaaaack! I did pick up a bag of

marshmallows to read the ingredients the other day. To the person who asked

if they were okay...no....the first ingredient on the pkg...regardless of

brand...is CORN SYRUP!

Rochelle

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How are you double aquarius? (what do you mean?) I am an Airies/pisces cusp

and have lots of capricorn in there too. Also a little aquarius, scorpio,

and pisces in venus. I think thats it. Not into horoscopes but learned a

lot during my " search " and think there is something to it. I don't believe

in predestination though. You are an interesting person Aikya. Jeanie

>

> I am nearly 56 (January birthday--double Aquarius). I was born in

> Montgomery Alabama, spent my life from around 1 to 39 in and around New

> York City, then came out to Northern California.

>

> Aikya

> Re: meat, flax, coffee, success

> > >

> > >

> > > > From: " jverner " <jverner@...>

> > > >

> > > > Hi Carol, I'm 39 so you have 20 years on me, but I still have some

> > > powerful

> > > > health problems to overcome. It takes time. I have to remind

myself

> of

> > > > that too. I was inspired by what Diane said too. Do any of you

> notice

> > > pain

> > > > correlations with corn? I cheated recently. It throws my blood

sugar

> > > off,

> > > > so I guess its a spiral effect. Better shape up. Whats the deal

with

> > > flax

> > > > seed anyway? Jeanie

> > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

I've made it from melted carob chips before. This recipe used peanut

butter, though, so I couldn't eat much. Jeanie

> From: " aikya " <aikya@...>

>

> Hey, you know, it sounds like we're all dying for an easy sweet. All this

> talk about marshmallows. ... I was thinking this past week, couldn't you

> make a " fudge " with carob and walnuts. What's fudge? It's chocolate,

> butter and sugar heated up and mixed together and then allowed to cool and

> cut in cubes. So you could make the usual chocolate kind but use the

whole

> sugar, Sucanat so you have the chromium and so on. Or you could make it

> with carob powder. I haven't tried this yet. Haven't made much with the

> carob powder so I don't know how it acts, how it's different from

chocolate.

> Anybody know?

>

> Aikya

>

> Re: meat, flax, coffee, success

>

>

> > From: Runtshell@...

> >

> > I didn't know about maltodextrin either...aaaaaack! I did pick up a bag

of

> > marshmallows to read the ingredients the other day. To the person who

> asked

> > if they were okay...no....the first ingredient on the pkg...regardless

of

> > brand...is CORN SYRUP!

> > Rochelle

> >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I am nearly 56 (January birthday--double Aquarius). I was born in

Montgomery Alabama, spent my life from around 1 to 39 in and around New

York City, then came out to Northern California.

Aikya

Re: meat, flax, coffee, success

> >

> >

> > > From: " jverner " <jverner@...>

> > >

> > > Hi Carol, I'm 39 so you have 20 years on me, but I still have some

> > powerful

> > > health problems to overcome. It takes time. I have to remind myself

of

> > > that too. I was inspired by what Diane said too. Do any of you

notice

> > pain

> > > correlations with corn? I cheated recently. It throws my blood sugar

> > off,

> > > so I guess its a spiral effect. Better shape up. Whats the deal with

> > flax

> > > seed anyway? Jeanie

> > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Hey, you know, it sounds like we're all dying for an easy sweet. All this

talk about marshmallows. ... I was thinking this past week, couldn't you

make a " fudge " with carob and walnuts. What's fudge? It's chocolate,

butter and sugar heated up and mixed together and then allowed to cool and

cut in cubes. So you could make the usual chocolate kind but use the whole

sugar, Sucanat so you have the chromium and so on. Or you could make it

with carob powder. I haven't tried this yet. Haven't made much with the

carob powder so I don't know how it acts, how it's different from chocolate.

Anybody know?

Aikya

Re: meat, flax, coffee, success

> From: Runtshell@...

>

> I didn't know about maltodextrin either...aaaaaack! I did pick up a bag of

> marshmallows to read the ingredients the other day. To the person who

asked

> if they were okay...no....the first ingredient on the pkg...regardless of

> brand...is CORN SYRUP!

> Rochelle

>

> >

[Guest guest]

where does one find carob chips that don't have milk???? All the ones I've

looked at have something to avoid in them. I love carob though,..

Rochelle

[Guest guest]

Thanks for sending me the green tea info. I wonder why you can take a

capsule but not an infusion of green tea? Or did I miss read that?

Eddie

[Guest guest]

You are welcome Eddie. Your guess is as good as mine regarding the

capsules. Don't really know much about it. Good point about the acidity

too. Jeanie

> From: J McBrearty <edmcbre@...>

>

> Thanks for sending me the green tea info. I wonder why you can take a

> capsule but not an infusion of green tea? Or did I miss read that?

> Eddie

>

> >

[Guest guest]

I have both Sun and Moon, both considered pretty important in Aquiarius.

Cancer rising. By the Asian Indian (sidereal) astrology, my Sun is in

Capricorn. The Western astrology is 23 degrees off!! Meaning " off " what's

actually in the sky. Can't remember the details but it was some

religiopolitical calendar decision.

Aikya

Re: meat, flax, coffee, success

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > From: " jverner " <jverner@...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Carol, I'm 39 so you have 20 years on me, but I still have

some

> > > > powerful

> > > > > health problems to overcome. It takes time. I have to remind

> myself

> > of

> > > > > that too. I was inspired by what Diane said too. Do any of you

> > notice

> > > > pain

> > > > > correlations with corn? I cheated recently. It throws my blood

> sugar

> > > > off,

> > > > > so I guess its a spiral effect. Better shape up. Whats the deal

> with

> > > > flax

> > > > > seed anyway? Jeanie

> > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/16/1999 2:43:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

jverner@... writes:

<< This recipe used peanut

butter, >>

Try using almond butter to replace peanut butter. It is a neutral and tastes

almost like peanut butter.

Sharon