Guest guest Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 Jen, On the tea subject, do you mean herbal or black tea? Kombucha, as far as I know, is made with black tea which is caffeinated. But herbal teas, especially the mineral teas, ie. parsley tea, etc. would be great for you. Also, quickly, I don't know what my bone status is, but I do have a small frame and have always been concerned about this as I get older, but I have recently started increasing the amount of butter I consume and I feel really good lately. Butter, coupled with the cod liver and perhaps a sardine sandwich and/or chicken livers once a week would be a great diet to add to your plan for reversing your osteo. Theresa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 I'm highly skeptical of the benefits of fluoride. Theoretically the fluoride should bond to calcium rather than carbon, to make calcium fluoride which is more acid-resistant than calcium carbonate. But my dentist prescribed me a fluoride rinse about a year ago, and I tried it a few times, but it would cause me to excessively salivate and then dry out my mouth extremely, and give me a funny feeling in my joints and I wouldn't be able to sleep. Now that I have extreme periodontitis (probably cause from my dental work), he gave me a more extreme prescription to use three times a day instead of before bed. I don't plan on having it filled. Unfortunately, although I love the guy, I think my dentist is inadvertently destroying my body in attempt to save my teeth. Also, you should consider the endocrinological effects of fluoride since you have problems in that area. I don't know exactly how it would fit in with your condition, or at all for that matter, because I know nothing whatsoever about endocrinology ;-) Fluoride does seem to have a positive effect when applied *topically* to children's teeth, but ingesting large amounts of fluoride such as in water fluoridation seems to be out-and-out harmful and cause bone *problems* like bone cancer. As far as the kind of tea, I think green tea is as high in fluoride as black tea, but has much less caffeine. You can get either decaffenated anyway. A cup a day of decaf green tea probably woudn't be harmful in either an excess of fluoride or anything else I would imagine. BTW, does anyone know how the kombucha organisms metabolize the caffeine? Can caffeine be eliminated by long fermentation of kombucha? Chris ____ " What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature. Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the truth, and for those who do them wrong. " --Saint Isaac the Syrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2003 Report Share Posted March 28, 2003 I read " somewhere " that the high level of flouride found in black and green tea is directly related to heavy pesticide use which is very common.....the orangic tea has little to no flouride. Lynn ----- Original Message ----- From: ChrisMasterjohn@... Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 2:07 PM Subject: Re: tea/osteoporosis I'm highly skeptical of the benefits of fluoride. Theoretically the fluoride should bond to calcium rather than carbon, to make calcium fluoride which is more acid-resistant than calcium carbonate. But my dentist prescribed me a fluoride rinse about a year ago, and I tried it a few times, but it would cause me to excessively salivate and then dry out my mouth extremely, and give me a funny feeling in my joints and I wouldn't be able to sleep. Now that I have extreme periodontitis (probably cause from my dental work), he gave me a more extreme prescription to use three times a day instead of before bed. I don't plan on having it filled. Unfortunately, although I love the guy, I think my dentist is inadvertently destroying my body in attempt to save my teeth. Also, you should consider the endocrinological effects of fluoride since you have problems in that area. I don't know exactly how it would fit in with your condition, or at all for that matter, because I know nothing whatsoever about endocrinology ;-) Fluoride does seem to have a positive effect when applied *topically* to children's teeth, but ingesting large amounts of fluoride such as in water fluoridation seems to be out-and-out harmful and cause bone *problems* like bone cancer. As far as the kind of tea, I think green tea is as high in fluoride as black tea, but has much less caffeine. You can get either decaffenated anyway. A cup a day of decaf green tea probably woudn't be harmful in either an excess of fluoride or anything else I would imagine. BTW, does anyone know how the kombucha organisms metabolize the caffeine? Can caffeine be eliminated by long fermentation of kombucha? Chris ____ " What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature. Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the truth, and for those who do them wrong. " --Saint Isaac the Syrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2003 Report Share Posted March 28, 2003 I remember this too...I think I heard it from Sally via an email forwarded to this list. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynn Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:45 AM Subject: Re: tea/osteoporosis I read " somewhere " that the high level of flouride found in black and green tea is directly related to heavy pesticide use which is very common.....the orangic tea has little to no flouride. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2003 Report Share Posted March 28, 2003 so... tea is beneficial for someone with osteoporosis given it is DECAFFEINATED and... given it is ORGANIC?? ????? ----- Original Message ----- From: " Lynn " <LynnClarice@...> < > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 8:45 AM Subject: Re: tea/osteoporosis > I read " somewhere " that the high level of flouride found in black and green tea is directly related to heavy pesticide use which is very common.....the orangic tea has little to no flouride. > > Lynn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ChrisMasterjohn@... > > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 2:07 PM > Subject: Re: tea/osteoporosis > > > I'm highly skeptical of the benefits of fluoride. Theoretically the fluoride > should bond to calcium rather than carbon, to make calcium fluoride which is > more acid-resistant than calcium carbonate. But my dentist prescribed me a > fluoride rinse about a year ago, and I tried it a few times, but it would > cause me to excessively salivate and then dry out my mouth extremely, and > give me a funny feeling in my joints and I wouldn't be able to sleep. Now > that I have extreme periodontitis (probably cause from my dental work), he > gave me a more extreme prescription to use three times a day instead of > before bed. I don't plan on having it filled. Unfortunately, although I > love the guy, I think my dentist is inadvertently destroying my body in > attempt to save my teeth. > > Also, you should consider the endocrinological effects of fluoride since you > have problems in that area. I don't know exactly how it would fit in with > your condition, or at all for that matter, because I know nothing whatsoever > about endocrinology ;-) > > Fluoride does seem to have a positive effect when applied *topically* to > children's teeth, but ingesting large amounts of fluoride such as in water > fluoridation seems to be out-and-out harmful and cause bone *problems* like > bone cancer. > > As far as the kind of tea, I think green tea is as high in fluoride as black > tea, but has much less caffeine. You can get either decaffenated anyway. A > cup a day of decaf green tea probably woudn't be harmful in either an excess > of fluoride or anything else I would imagine. > > BTW, does anyone know how the kombucha organisms metabolize the caffeine? > Can caffeine be eliminated by long fermentation of kombucha? > > Chris > > ____ > > " What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a > heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and > animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of > them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense > compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to > bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature. > Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the > truth, and for those who do them wrong. " > > --Saint Isaac the Syrian > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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