Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 many animal fats are actually good. butter, too. as i mentioned earlier to jim, some new and interesting research all about FAT consumption was covered extensively in an article in Science magazine (April, 2001) which i highly recommend. in it they talk about which meat fats are very good to consume. another interesting tidbit is that when nutritionists first found that people who ate lowfat diets had less incidence of heart disease, they didn't adequately deal with the vegetable consumption component and it's effect on health. people who eat low fat tend towards more vegetables than high fat eaters. now science is saying that in earlier studies, the high veggie consumption was actually more a cause of good heart health than low fat component. in other words, now they are thinking that someone who eats a high fat and high vegetable diet may be more healthy than someone with a low fat and low vegetable diet. of course it all depends on the kind of fat consumed. it's an 8 page article, so if any of this interests you i suggest reading it. nice day, betsy To Mahtki re animal fats Hi Mahkti, > Once again, I agree with you completely. You make me laugh! You hardly ever agree.... However,> there are many > sources of fat that are more beneficial like> omega-3, omega-6 and > omega-9 oils from various fish and olive oil, > respectively. I think > these kinds of fats(vegetable and fish) are better> than butter or any > other animal fat. Do you agree. I don't agree with you Mahkti. d:-) They don't fill me up. > Mahkti > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > In my opinion there is no such thing as better > > > butter. Butter is > > > almost pure fat, something we can do without. I > > > think we can find > > > any nutrient that butter supplies in some other > non > > > dairy form. > > > Margarine and any butter substitute(except > Oliva) is > > > probably worst > > > than butter when it comes to fat content. I > think > > > butter is probably > > > one of the worst things that a person can eat > > > non-organic, organic or > > > raw. > > > > > > Mahkti > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2001 Report Share Posted July 11, 2001 Is there a link to this article? Thanks Donna p.s. I don't think high fat is a good idea either. I think moderate, but not low or no fat, is good. And the fiber from veges and fruits is definitely what makes it work. -----Original Message----- many animal fats are actually good. butter, too. as i mentioned earlier to jim, some new and interesting research all about FAT consumption was covered extensively in an article in Science magazine (April, 2001) which i highly recommend. in it they talk about which meat fats are very good to consume. another interesting tidbit is that when nutritionists first found that people who ate lowfat diets had less incidence of heart disease, they didn't adequately deal with the vegetable consumption component and it's effect on health. people who eat low fat tend towards more vegetables than high fat eaters. now science is saying that in earlier studies, the high veggie consumption was actually more a cause of good heart health than low fat component. in other words, now they are thinking that someone who eats a high fat and high vegetable diet may be more healthy than someone with a low fat and low vegetable diet. of course it all depends on the kind of fat consumed. it's an 8 page article, so if any of this interests you i suggest reading it. nice day, betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2001 Report Share Posted July 11, 2001 You can find the article in the March 30, 2001 edition of Science at any Library which carries Science. The article is " NUTRITION: The Soft Science of Dietary Fat " by Taubes. Science, 291 (5513), p.2536- If you have trouble locating it, I have a personal copy of the article which I could xerox and send to you in the mail or fax to you. Science online requires subscriptions, so the link is no good unless you want to pay. It's worth the trouble to read it. Best health, Betsy Re: animal fats Is there a link to this article? Thanks Donna p.s. I don't think high fat is a good idea either. I think moderate, but not low or no fat, is good. And the fiber from veges and fruits is definitely what makes it work. -----Original Message----- many animal fats are actually good. butter, too. as i mentioned earlier to jim, some new and interesting research all about FAT consumption was covered extensively in an article in Science magazine (April, 2001) which i highly recommend. in it they talk about which meat fats are very good to consume. another interesting tidbit is that when nutritionists first found that people who ate lowfat diets had less incidence of heart disease, they didn't adequately deal with the vegetable consumption component and it's effect on health. people who eat low fat tend towards more vegetables than high fat eaters. now science is saying that in earlier studies, the high veggie consumption was actually more a cause of good heart health than low fat component. in other words, now they are thinking that someone who eats a high fat and high vegetable diet may be more healthy than someone with a low fat and low vegetable diet. of course it all depends on the kind of fat consumed. it's an 8 page article, so if any of this interests you i suggest reading it. nice day, betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2003 Report Share Posted March 15, 2003 Bacon grease is wonderful, especially when making cornbread! I haven't ever used hamburger grease, but I am sure you could. Tallow is beef fat, so wouldn't hamburger grease be tallow? Tallow is highly recommended in Nourishing Traditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 >What about using the leftover fat from cooking bacon and >hamburger? (Assuming it's high quality, organic). Didn't people used to >cook with the leftover fats from cooking meat? > >Michele Sally talks about that in Nourishing Traditions. Yeah, collecting cooking fat was ALWAYS done, even when I was growing up. We always had a pot of bacon fat by the stove. Sure beats trying to find a way to dump it (it clogs the drains, and isn't good for compost piles). I love goose fat. When I cook a goose, I collect the fat from the bottom of the pan (or from the top of the soup, if it is boiled), then freeze it in a 1/2 layer so I can break it into chunks. Good stuff. I save bacon fat too, and sometimes beef and chicken fat. The only problem I've had is that sometimes there is water mixed with the fat, and that could spoil easily. So I freeze it. You could cook it more over low heat to boil off any water though, if you want. Heidi S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Hiya, thanks for that. the reason I asked the question is because I have read the articles but remember possibly reading something Bee had said about some animal fats not being good for candida sufferers and making the condition worse. Is this also true? Thanks for your help Sylvia ________________________________ From: bonemilk27 <bonemilk@...> Sent: Fri, 26 February, 2010 12:43:22 PM Subject: [ ] Re: animal fats Hi Sylvia: You posted: > I have a question about animal fats- do they cause candida to grow? > I eat alot of meat and need to know which to avoid. Eg- is fat in things like beef mince, pork mince bad? What about lambs brains as they are made up of fats arent they? ***Your questions are answered by reading the starter material included when you joined this group. It appears you have not read the articles, so I'm including them below for you to read. ***Please ensure you read two important articles so you understand candida, and know what you need to do and why: How to Successfully Overcome Candida http://www.healingn aturallybybee. com/articles/ intro2.php Curing Candida, How to Get Started http://www.healingn aturallybybee. com/articles/ intro1.php For encouragement and inspiration see these wonderful Success Stories by members of this group: http://www.healingn aturallybybee. com/success/ index.php The only way to cure candida: Candida cannot be cured by " killing it off. " It just doesn't work that way. Candida is only cured by building up the immune system, which is done by: Consuming " proper nutrients " (diet plus supplements) , Eliminating toxins and foods that feed candida (they also feed bacteria and cancer), Eliminating damaging foods, and Eliminating toxins in general. When the immune system is strong enough it will automatically " make " candida (or any bug, cancer, etc.) change back into the microbe it was before. After you read and understand the diet a little better, please feel free to ask questions or search Bee's site for answers. All the best, Marissa (a group moderator) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Hi Sylvia, I think perhaps you misread something. Bee says that all animal fats are good for us. It does not make candida worse. Instead, it helps us to heal. Hope that clarifies things, (a group moderator) > > Hiya, thanks for that. the reason I asked the question is because I have read the articles but remember possibly reading something Bee had said about some animal fats not being good for candida sufferers and making the condition worse. Is this also true? > > Thanks for your help > Sylvia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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