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In einer eMail vom 28.11.2005 06:06:58 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt jackalope_lepus@...:

>It is illegal to produce Tamiflu with license from Roche, but Taiwan >does not care because it thinks no court can punish Taiwan for >producing Tamiflu illegally

why do they tell us then, that they are producing Tamiflu ? Can't it be done secretely ?

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It is illegal to produce Tamiflu with license from Roche, but Taiwan

does not care because it thinks no court can punish Taiwan for

producing Tamiflu illegally

> In einer eMail vom 28.11.2005 05:50:44 Westeuropäische Normalzeit

schreibt

> jackalope_lepus@H...:

>

> >So Taiwan is playing " I dare you " with Roche. If Roche refuses

Taiwan

> >a license, then they will produce Tamiflu illegally. Now we wait

to

> >see if Roche will grant a license and hope for some payment.

>

>

> is it already illegal to _produce_ Tamiflu or only when they sell

it ?

>

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Roche holds the patent for Tamiflu so the drug cannot be manufactured legally by anyone else. However, there is great pressure being put on Roche to allow other companies to produce Tamiflu.sterten@... wrote: In einer eMail vom 28.11.2005 05:50:44 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt jackalope_lepus@...: >So Taiwan is playing "I dare you" with Roche. If Roche refuses Taiwan >a license, then they will produce Tamiflu illegally. Now we wait to >see if Roche will grant a license and hope for some payment. is it already illegal to _produce_ Tamiflu or only when they sell it ?

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sterten@... wrote: In einer eMail vom 28.11.2005 06:06:58 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt jackalope_lepus@...: >It is illegal to produce Tamiflu with license from Roche, but Taiwan >does not care because it thinks no court can punish Taiwan for >producing Tamiflu illegally why do they tell us then, that they are producing Tamiflu ? Can't it be done secretely ?

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I wouldnt bat an eyelid,if my family needed a life saving drug,i would get

it,make it whatever and dont care less about who gets the royalties from the

license,human life is more important than profit by Roche.Good luck to

Taiwan and any other countries who have the sense to look after

themselves.Most countries give individuals the right to self defense and

this is a classic case of defending one's self from a virus that may kill

us.If it comes to my door i will try to defend my body with tamiflu from

this virus.The world should wake up and all countries should make it for

everyone,not 10%,25% etc for the select few,i value all life equally and not

by their job position.Only God has the right to decide who lives or dies(if

there is one)

These are my personal beliefs and dont wish to offend anyone by my views.

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>Subject: Re: [Flu] Re: Taiwan to produce bird flu drug without

>license from R...

>Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 01:15:28 EST

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>In einer eMail vom 28.11.2005 06:06:58 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt

>jackalope_lepus@...:

>

> >It is illegal to produce Tamiflu with license from Roche, but Taiwan

> >does not care because it thinks no court can punish Taiwan for

> >producing Tamiflu illegally

>

>

>

>why do they tell us then, that they are producing Tamiflu ? Can't it be

>done

>secretely ?

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> sterten@a... wrote:

> >It is illegal to produce Tamiflu with license from Roche, but

Taiwan does not care because it thinks no court can punish Taiwan for

> >producing Tamiflu illegally

why do they tell us then, that they are producing Tamiflu ? Can't

it be done secretely ?

I thought Roche gave Taiwan and a few other poorer countries the right

to reproduce Tamiflu? (Wasn't India also given permission?)

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Hi Connie, Hope you are well today. If you will click up to the

original post, you will see that Taiwan has decided to produce Tamiflu

without a license from Roche because Roche has denied Taiwan a license

to produce it. Instead, Roche has told Taiwan that it can get all the

Tamiflu it needs directly from Roche. Taiwan is clearly angry.

> I thought Roche gave Taiwan and a few other poorer countries the right

> to reproduce Tamiflu? (Wasn't India also given permission?)

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> Hi Connie, Hope you are well today. If you will click up to the

> original post, you will see that Taiwan has decided to produce Tamiflu

> without a license from Roche because Roche has denied Taiwan a license

> to produce it. Instead, Roche has told Taiwan that it can get all the

> Tamiflu it needs directly from Roche. Taiwan is clearly angry.

Hi Lee, after I posted this message I did scroll back and discovered

some articles from late October 2005 that confirm what you just said.

I must have totally overlooked this fact.

Pretty interesting, huh, how Roche wants to maintain a monopoly on its

patents? And with the news today that Merck will shut down over 7000

jobs, half in the US ANd the loss of some of its drug patents next

year for its cholesterol-lowering formula...that can only spell bad

news for Pharmaceuticals OVERALL in this potential pandemic. We may

just see a downfall of the gargantuan pharmaceuticals world-wide.

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I think negotiations are still in progress.cginca96 <cginca96@...> wrote: > sterten@a... wrote: > >It is illegal to produce Tamiflu with license from Roche, butTaiwan does not care because it thinks no court can punish Taiwan for > >producing Tamiflu illegally why do they tell us then, that they are producing Tamiflu ? Can'tit be done secretely ?I thought Roche gave Taiwan and a few other poorer countries the rightto reproduce Tamiflu? (Wasn't India also given permission?)

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I think Taiwan is trying to help negotiations by saying that it will

produce Tamiflu without license.

> I thought Roche gave Taiwan and a few other poorer countries the right

> to reproduce Tamiflu? (Wasn't India also given permission?)

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