Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 In einer eMail vom 17.12.2006 05:18:08 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt jackalope_lepus@...: I am sure that we are in big trouble how can you be sure, when the experts say: "no one knows..." I think, most experts would agree that it's more likely that there will be no pandemic next year than that there will be one. Although, they usually avoid answering such questions directly. I think, it's 10%-20% probability per year what the average experts think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 I don't think that history has a sense of irony. It's man who wants to see magical connections and coincidences everywhere. The last two pandemics were somehow special, with the reassortments. The 1918 was special wrt. virulence. And the current situation is special with the birds and the technological advances and increase in population of people,chicken and swine in China. I don't feel that it's just "3 pandemics per century", it's special now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 I live in the capitol of Illinois and I have not heard a word about any drills or preps at all! I have contacted the mayor and the health department who put me through to the person in charge of planning for the pandemic and I asked her to send me all of the info she could on our community’s plan of action. She sent me a booklet about surviving disasters which made no mention of pandemic or even epidemic illnesses. Inside were two pages printed from Pandemicflu.gov advising the two-week prep! I think we are in big trouble. I am trying to decide what the best way to motivate my community will be. This is not acceptable at all! L Tamarin From: Flu [mailto:Flu ] On Behalf Of Lee Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 5:53 PM Flu Subject: [Flu] USA: States prepare for flu pandemic Steps some states have taken to prepare for flu pandemic By The Associated Press | December 16, 2006 Some steps that states have taken to prepare for a flu pandemic: ALABAMA State purchased 900 cots, with plans for 250 more, that could be set up in churches or school gyms. Education officials working with Alabama Public Television to try to show classes on television if schools are closed. ALASKA In Ketchikan, health workers rehearsed how to set up an alternative care site when hospitals overflow. Other drills assume the state will hear there is a pandemic on the TV news, amid a panicked public, before getting official word from the government. ARIZONA State urging counties to work with schools and churches on plans to minimize public gatherings during a pandemic, such as holding small worship services several times a week instead of a big one on Sunday. ARKANSAS Considering drive-through vaccination clinics. CALIFORNIA State has budgeted nearly $70 million to purchase supplies for alternative-care sites and $18 million for three 200-bed mobile field hospitals. Held a first-of-its-kind pandemic drill bringing health care, business, community and religious-based organizations together. COLORADO Trailers parked around the state hold 6,500 extra beds for creating emergency clinics. Next year's focus will be on recruiting health volunteers who would come staff them. CONNECTICUT Hospitals would become intensive care units for the flu, moving other patients out and canceling elective surgeries. Airport and health officials joined in a drill last summer to practice how they would react if a plane landed carrying the first U.S. cases of pandemic flu. DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA Nation's capital is piloting a program to mine the Medicaid database to locate vulnerable citizens, such as the homebound elderly, who might need special attention during a pandemic. DELAWARE State has set up a medical reserve corps. Drills have pointed to such issues as quarantine laws and whether funeral homes have enough storage capacity for the dead that still need addressing. FLORIDA State is working on where and how to store supplies such as protective masks before beginning stockpile purchases and soon will begin public education campaign on how consumers can prepare. GEORGIA State is working on uniformity of communities' " social distancing " plans, worried that one city might close theaters only to see consumers head for the movies in the suburbs. HAWAII Maui held a mock drive-thru clinic, to let health workers practice triaging " sick " volunteers. State is planning on a shelter specifically for people with special health-care needs and trying to develop a buddy system to ensure someone checks on those with developmental disabilities. IDAHO Drills where workers handed out M & Ms in place of Tamiflu and practiced mass vaccination pointed out both a shortage of nurses and the need for bathrooms for the waiting crowds. ILLINOIS Statewide drills identified planning gaps, now being addressed, that include how to get prompt and accurate information to an anxious public. INDIANA Advisory groups that include not just health officials but lawyers from the American Civil Liberties Union and parents are helping inform policies on how the state would ration scarce drugs and vaccine. Nearly 10,000 people have attended town-hall meetings on pandemic preparedness this year. IOWA State has distributed nearly 150,000 guidebooks with consumer-friendly preparation information. KANSAS A weeklong drill allowed 30 counties, plus businesses, schools, state agencies and charities, to practice mass vaccination and other steps. KENTUCKY State health office created a grassroots network for contacting contact the disabled and other particularly vulnerable populations during a pandemic or other emergency. It was recognized by federal health officials as a model program. LOUISIANA Hospital crowding will be worsened given the hospital closures in wake of Hurricane Katrina. State considering expanded visiting hours so relatives can pitch in with some patient care, bringing in retired health workers. MARYLAND State assembled a task force to bring businesses into pandemic planning, including how the state will keep critical infrastructure such as water, power and transportation available. MAINE State would use schools, armories and motels for overflow hospital patients. The state's health chief met with the two largest supermarket chains to discuss how to make sure food supplies are not choked off. MASSACHUSETTS State would set up " influenza specialty care units " to handle about 5,000 patients once regular hospitals are full. MICHIGAN Ice storms have provided real-world practice of how to get care to vulnerable populations such as the homebound elderly. About 90 other pandemic drills over the past year and a half showed the importance of little things like using walkie-talkies in case phone service is cut. MINNESOTA Three major drills, including one involving 10,000 people, gave M & Ms to volunteers as practice for dispensing Tamiflu. The entire state has just 700 ventilators, and while there are plans to buy 300 more, the health department has begun talking with doctors about how they would make the difficult choices of who will get that care. MISSISSIPPI State has identified about 1,400 volunteers to help with mass vaccinations. MISSOURI Officials are discussing the appropriate chain of command for closing schools, malls or businesses, so there is statewide consistency. MONTANA More than 6,300 people in Billings received flu shots in one day during a mass vaccination drill. NEBRASKA State led efforts to form the Mid-America Alliance -- with Kansas, Iowa, Montana, Utah, North and South Dakota, Missouri, Colorado and Wyoming -- that will share resources and expertise during a public health emergency such as a pandemic. NEVADA The state stockpiled a little Tamiflu using federal dollars, but its local health districts were not interested in buying more, saying the money was better spent on other supplies. Las Vegas poses a special challenge in predicting health needs, with such a large population of long-term hotel visitors. NEW HAMPSHIRE State will address legal authority surrounding quarantines in legislation next year and plans a full-scale drill with neighboring states and Canada in the next year. NEW JERSEY State is debating whether to expand on current federal guidelines about rationing scarce drugs not just to the sick but as protection for such essential workers as grocery truck drivers. State has put together a 211 phone system, similar to the 911 emergency number, that would have trained staff answering pandemic questions from the public. NEW MEXICO State is working closely with 22 American Indian tribes to integrate surrounding communities' plans. NEW YORK A pandemic drill involving 1,400 people from eight counties revealed some still unanswered questions, such as confusion over who closes schools. State stockpiles include 4.5 million protective masks. NORTH CAROLINA In addition to a statewide pandemic drill, health leaders called a summit with leading businesses to discuss meshing state and corporate plans -- including suggestions to keep certain employees at work for long stretches so they would have fewer off-hours opportunities to catch the flu. NORTH DAKOTA State's goal is to have " very robust plans " completed by August. Among the plans are alternate care facilities, a step below hospitalization, to basically keep the ill fed, clean and hydrated. OHIO State gives regional health authorities the ability to open MASH-style emergency clinics to handle hospital overflow. OKLAHOMA Mass vaccination drills have the goal of inoculating 400 people in an hour. OREGON State had a full-scale rehearsal of how to receive, store and dispense to far-flung rural areas drugs and other supplies flown in from the federal government's stockpile. PENNSYLVANIA State has begun talking to employers about sick policies so infectious workers stay home, and may enlist religious-based organizations to help care for such vulnerable populations as the homebound elderly during a pandemic. RHODE ISLAND Each hospital has been asked to plan for up to three alternate care sites to handle patient overflow. SOUTH CAROLINA State working with public television to hold a documentary on pandemic influenza, and produce pocket flu guides, to educate the public about individual preparedness. SOUTH DAKOTA State has delivered protective equipment for health workers to hospitals. TENNESSEE Pandemic drills are planned for next year. The state is among those still undecided on how much Tamiflu to try to stockpile. TEXAS State operates a network to connect 13,000 doctors with public health announcements by e-mail, phone or fax. Dallas' plans to replace ill workers include the possibility of training librarians as temporary 911 operators. UTAH State is still finalizing its plan, with a governor's task force that began meeting monthly in September and full drill tentatively scheduled for next summer. VERMONT Health officials in discussions with universities, other entities that have large kitchen facilities that might be used to help feed vulnerable populations. VIRGINIA A statewide drill identified gaps including how to store bodies and when localities should close schools. State has established a call center where health workers would provide information to the public during a pandemic. WASHINGTON State would reserve hospitals for the sickest, and treat others at schools and fairgrounds. Drive-thru flu shots showed if that were used during a pandemic, officials would need people to direct traffic. WEST VIRGINIA State still putting final draft of its plans to paper. Among the ideas is to enlist church nursing programs around the state to beef up supplies of health workers. WISCONSIN First statewide drill exposed gaps ranging from businesses that haven't done any planning to the state's still evolving plans on how to ration scarce drugs and vaccine. WYOMING State recently joined Colorado, Nebraska and Kansas in a regional drill. It is establishing a system to track school absenteeism, part of statewide monitoring for the first signs of flu outbreaks. http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/12/16/steps_some_states_have_taken_to_prepare_for_/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 I am sure that we are in big trouble. And Laurie Garrett said that she rang the alarm solely for the purpose of saying " I told you so, " after the pandemic was over. It's the old story: those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. You really should email the mayor an article from our Site Files on mass burials. Ask the mayor what he intends to do when the local hospitals and morgues become choked with the dead. > > I live in the capitol of Illinois and I have not heard a word about any > drills or preps at all! I have contacted the mayor and the health department > who put me through to the person in charge of planning for the pandemic and > I asked her to send me all of the info she could on our community's plan of > action. She sent me a booklet about surviving disasters which made no > mention of pandemic or even epidemic illnesses. Inside were two pages > printed from Pandemicflu.gov advising the two-week prep! I think we are in > big trouble. I am trying to decide what the best way to motivate my > community will be. This is not acceptable at all! :-( Tamari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 Respectfully, I ask you, if you do not think that there will be a pandemic, sterten, why do you monitor this site? It seems to me if it is a non-issue for you that you would not want to waste your time on it. I am just curious. Perhaps I have misread your posts. Perhaps you are being sarcastic and I have not picked that up. If not, then I don’t get why you would participate here. As far as how I can be sure that we are in big trouble, no one can truly predict what will happen in anything. We see clouds and hear thunder and we are pretty sure a storm is coming. Sometimes maybe it blows over and doesn’t happen, most of the time it comes and has wind and rain and lightning, and occasionally it brings a tornado or hurricane. Taking no action when we see the warning signs would be really foolish and perhaps deadly. Wise people prepare and breathe a sigh of relief if it doesn’t happen or is only minor and thank God that they prepared if it is catastrophic. There is really no down-side to being prepared, is there? Personally, I believe that this pandemic is pretty close and it will be a very catastrophic situation. JMO. I could be wrong. If I am, I am well prepared for whatever may come. We just went through a blizzard here and my family and I were very grateful that we had emergency preps and did not have to go without anything during that event. It makes life easier to know you have what you need to deal with whatever happens. If we listen to the experts and they are wrong, as they frequently are, we are in big trouble if it does happen. The boy scout motto is smart advice: “Be prepared!” Blessings! Tamarin From: Flu [mailto:Flu ] On Behalf Of sterten@... Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:32 PM Flu Subject: Re: [Flu] Re: USA: States prepare for flu pandemic In einer eMail vom 17.12.2006 05:18:08 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt jackalope_lepusHotmail: I am sure that we are in big trouble how can you be sure, when the experts say: " no one knows... " I think, most experts would agree that it's more likely that there will be no pandemic next year than that there will be one. Although, they usually avoid answering such questions directly. I think, it's 10%-20% probability per year what the average experts think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 There are an average of three flu pandemics per century. I expect that history has a sense of irony. I expect that what will happen is that we will all prepare for an avian flu pandemic, but then something worse--perhaps a flu or something worse than HIV--will become the next global pandemic. I hope that after this happens that people will take public health seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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