Re: canker sore

[Guest guest]

This sounds stupid, but, my mother always had us wet our finger, dip it into

some powdered Alum, and then hold our finger on the canker sore for a few

minutes. It tastes like s**t but seemed (and still seems) to work.

[Guest guest]

This sounds more stupid, but works. For canker sore, when it starts place a

piece of gold (say gold ring) on the canker sore and it will go away. It

won't be nessary to go thru all the stages of a canker. bcleary2 in Va.

[Guest guest]

Hi Y'all

Thanks for the canker sore advice. I will try both the Alum and the L Lysine .

I know that folic acid is good but only if you are on MTX.

I am on oral gold.

Kit

[Guest guest]

Hi BCleary

Your idea about the gold ring as a cure for a canker sounds just about as

sound as my taking oral gold (which I do).for PA

So long as it works who cares if it makes sense.

So I say never reject something that seems illogical.

Thanks for your help.

Kit

Hey this might be an interesting topic.

Are there any more remedies. I love all the old ones that can't really do a

lot of harm.

Rusty this one's for you . I think it is the MTX and not the other stuff that

is doing the trick. Really really be careful of snake oil. It sounds like your

supplements are really expensive and taking so many pills would make me

question what each does.

Hope you are getting better and feeling grand.

Kit

[Guest guest]

Bcleary,

You bet the next time a canker sore pops up, I will be trying the gold

thing. To me nothing sound stupid if it works for someone. Wow, how

simple could some things be!!!!

Angera

[Guest guest]

>All this talk about Saurkraut and I can't have any. I have this

>annoying canker sore for about 5 days now and it is not going away.

>Does anyone know any natural remedies for at least minimizing the

>pain? I don't brush with toothpaste that has SLS, so I don't know

>how I got this thing. Have not had one in a very long time. What

>causes these painful sores. It hurts to eat. Thanks B.

It's not natural, but using Listerine really kills cancer sores. Just rinse

your mouth with it every day. If you want more natural, hydrogen

peroxide might work.

Cancer sores are also called " aphthous ulcers " and are one of the features

of gluten intolerance -- my daughter gets them reliably when she

eats any baked goods (which she does occasionally at other people's houses).

I'd expect other IgA intolerances might cause them too.

See: http://www.aafp.org/afp/980301ap/pruessn.html

page 5.

Heidi S

[Guest guest]

I get them too, and I find that rinsing my mouth with diluted

grapefruit seed extract helps a lot. Also, in my case I have the

cold sore virus, and I don't have any idea if the canker sores are

related to that, but I take lysine when a canker sore starts and

they heal up faster for me.

The pharmacy should have an over the counter product that you can

paint over the sore and it coats it with a temporary protective

film. I find it stings a little at first, but it helps while the

sore heals. I can't remember what it is called, but if you ask

them, they should know.

Laurie

[Guest guest]

I tend to get canker sores when I don't have any raw milk for more than a

week. Interestingly, eating pasteurized high-quality yogurt does nothing to

relieve this, but drinking raw milk again does. I read an article that said

canker sources were indicative of low tissue calcium so I thought the calcium

would help. Perhaps this is another anecdote in the bin of evidence that

cooked protein is acidicifying and raw protein is alkalinizing.

Have you been to the dentist lately? Whenever I go to the dentist I break

out in canker sores.

Chris

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

[Guest guest]

Heidi, Thanks for the listerine tip. My husband should have some of

that stuff, yuck.

I never thought of it as a gluten intolerance but I did get them a

lot as a child, but eventually they just happened once in a great

while. I normally don't eat bread or wheat products that much at

all. But I did have a sourdough raisin & pecan bread last week.

Well I also ocassionally indulge in some baked goods but this is the

first time I have gotten one in a very long time. I am also under a

bit of stress so I am sure that doesn't help.

What other IgA intolerances would be possible as I am not too

familiar with this subject.

>

> It's not natural, but using Listerine really kills cancer sores.

Just rinse

> your mouth with it every day. If you want more natural, hydrogen

> peroxide might work.

>

> Cancer sores are also called " aphthous ulcers " and are one of the

features

> of gluten intolerance -- my daughter gets them reliably when she

> eats any baked goods (which she does occasionally at other

people's houses).

> I'd expect other IgA intolerances might cause them too.

>

> See: http://www.aafp.org/afp/980301ap/pruessn.html

> page 5.

>

>

>

>

> Heidi S

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Laurie. I just might try that if nothing else works. It is

a miserable feeling as you know too well. I don't think it is

related to a cold sore, they are more like little ulcers or just

one. As for cold sores I have never had one of those. B.

> I get them too, and I find that rinsing my mouth with diluted

> grapefruit seed extract helps a lot. Also, in my case I have the

> cold sore virus, and I don't have any idea if the canker sores are

> related to that, but I take lysine when a canker sore starts and

> they heal up faster for me.

>

> The pharmacy should have an over the counter product that you can

> paint over the sore and it coats it with a temporary protective

> film. I find it stings a little at first, but it helps while the

> sore heals. I can't remember what it is called, but if you ask

> them, they should know.

>

> Laurie

[Guest guest]

interestingly I have been eating a yougurt every day for the

past month or so. This week I had family over and did not follow my

usual breakfast and also neglected my yogurt. I use Brown Cow as I

am still trying to get the raw milk. Have not gone to the dentist

lately I usually am ok just dry lips afterwards. Last time I had a

canker sore must be over 4 years ago so this is a very unpleasant

surprise. They were frequent as a child, and one of my cousins said

to put lemon juice on it and it would burn it off. I think he just

thought it was funny in his sadistic mind to watch me jump up and

down from the awful burning feeling.

As for acidifying and alkalizing I don't dabble too much on that

subject. It would just end up driving me crazy if I think about my

diet too much. Don't get me wrong, I still keep a very close eye on

what I eat. As my sisters found out this week grocery shopping with

me is quite an adventure. Still, I don't eat refined anything.

Carbs, I keep at 25% or less. If I started worrying about acid and

alkaline, I would really stress myself out. No offense. But for

someone who is worried about this it would be helpful. Thanks. B.

[Guest guest]

When I was a kid, the mother of a good friend of mine said that when you get

a canker sore you should get a new toothbrush. I must say, it's worked a

time or two for me.

-Linnea

> All this talk about Saurkraut and I can't have any. I have this

> annoying canker sore for about 5 days now and it is not going away.

> Does anyone know any natural remedies for at least minimizing the

> pain? I don't brush with toothpaste that has SLS, so I don't know

> how I got this thing. Have not had one in a very long time. What

> causes these painful sores. It hurts to eat. Thanks B.

>

[Guest guest]

I had one very painful and long lasting (weeks and weeks)canker

sore,which I finally ended with tea tree oil. I heard, after using

it, to never use essential oils full strength on skin and there I was

putting a little directly on the canker sore in my mouth! I didn't

have any reactions other than the canker sore went a way in a speedy

fashion. I was thrilled to see it go. I was under rather extreme

stress at the time, but the tea tree worked anyway.

Sheila

In , " belladormente "

<belladormente@h...> wrote:

> Thanks Laurie. I just might try that if nothing else works. It is

> a miserable feeling as you know too well. I don't think it is

> related to a cold sore, they are more like little ulcers or just

> one. As for cold sores I have never had one of those. B.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > I get them too, and I find that rinsing my mouth with diluted

> > grapefruit seed extract helps a lot. Also, in my case I have the

> > cold sore virus, and I don't have any idea if the canker sores

are

> > related to that, but I take lysine when a canker sore starts and

> > they heal up faster for me.

> >

> > The pharmacy should have an over the counter product that you can

> > paint over the sore and it coats it with a temporary protective

> > film. I find it stings a little at first, but it helps while the

> > sore heals. I can't remember what it is called, but if you ask

> > them, they should know.

> >

> > Laurie

[Guest guest]

>What other IgA intolerances would be possible as I am not too

>familiar with this subject.

Welcome to the club -- they are not well understood. The usual

" allergies " are IgE intolerances, but there are 4 other immune

reactions, IgA, IgG, IgM, and IgH (I think?). IgA seems to create

a rather potent immune response -- the substances that I have

heard of that create IgA responses, besides gluten, are eggs

and casein, but it is still under study.

Heidi S

[Guest guest]

Oh, I don't pay any attention to acid/alkaline either-- I just noticed that

whenever I go a week without raw milk I usually develop a canker sore, so

It's just a suspicion. I don't really micromanage my diet in any way.

Good luck,

Chris

In a message dated 3/21/03 10:35:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,

belladormente@... writes:

> interestingly I have been eating a yougurt every day for the

> past month or so. This week I had family over and did not follow my

> usual breakfast and also neglected my yogurt. I use Brown Cow as I

> am still trying to get the raw milk. Have not gone to the dentist

> lately I usually am ok just dry lips afterwards. Last time I had a

> canker sore must be over 4 years ago so this is a very unpleasant

> surprise. They were frequent as a child, and one of my cousins said

> to put lemon juice on it and it would burn it off. I think he just

> thought it was funny in his sadistic mind to watch me jump up and

> down from the awful burning feeling.

> As for acidifying and alkalizing I don't dabble too much on that

> subject. It would just end up driving me crazy if I think about my

> diet too much. Don't get me wrong, I still keep a very close eye on

> what I eat. As my sisters found out this week grocery shopping with

> me is quite an adventure. Still, I don't eat refined anything.

> Carbs, I keep at 25% or less. If I started worrying about acid and

> alkaline, I would really stress myself out. No offense. But for

> someone who is worried about this it would be helpful. Thanks. B.

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

[Guest guest]

it was probably the pecan bread...

all nuts are very high in amino acid arginine

arginine feeds the virus...

lysine inhibits the virus

I would stay away from all nuts if I were you

jen

----- Original Message -----

From: " belladormente " <belladormente@...>

< >

Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 7:09 AM

Subject: Re: canker sore

> Heidi, Thanks for the listerine tip. My husband should have some of

> that stuff, yuck.

> I never thought of it as a gluten intolerance but I did get them a

> lot as a child, but eventually they just happened once in a great

> while. I normally don't eat bread or wheat products that much at

> all. But I did have a sourdough raisin & pecan bread last week.

> Well I also ocassionally indulge in some baked goods but this is the

> first time I have gotten one in a very long time. I am also under a

> bit of stress so I am sure that doesn't help.

> What other IgA intolerances would be possible as I am not too

> familiar with this subject.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > It's not natural, but using Listerine really kills cancer sores.

> Just rinse

> > your mouth with it every day. If you want more natural, hydrogen

> > peroxide might work.

> >

> > Cancer sores are also called " aphthous ulcers " and are one of the

> features

> > of gluten intolerance -- my daughter gets them reliably when she

> > eats any baked goods (which she does occasionally at other

> people's houses).

> > I'd expect other IgA intolerances might cause them too.

> >

> > See: http://www.aafp.org/afp/980301ap/pruessn.html

> > page 5.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Heidi S

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

The only time I get canker sores is when I eat oranges and other citrus fruit or

when I eat or drink anything that specifically contains a lot of citrus or

citrus juice.

Dryad

--

http://www.puritycontrol.co.uk - XF rec's at The Grove, updated 3/12/03

[Guest guest]

Definitely try rinsing with baking soda - never fails.

-----Original Message-----

From: belladormente [mailto:belladormente@...]

Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 7:29 PM

Subject: canker sore

All this talk about Saurkraut and I can't have any. I have this

annoying canker sore for about 5 days now and it is not going away.

Does anyone know any natural remedies for at least minimizing the

pain? I don't brush with toothpaste that has SLS, so I don't know

how I got this thing. Have not had one in a very long time. What

causes these painful sores. It hurts to eat. Thanks B.

[Guest guest]

From what I've read, these are usually caused by a food allergy. For

me, I had them ALOT in the past, on a regular basis. I have recently

found that they are caused by a allergy to wheat! This is no joke,

but when I have any sort of wheat product, I get a canker sore within

12-24 hours! But I have found that my long fermented sourdough bread

does not affect me like that. Yay!

The absolute best thing I've found to heal up a canker sore fast is

Swedish Bitters. Works great! Makes them go away if you apply some

to the sore with a Q-tip or something(and let it soak in a bit).

Hope this helps,

Becky

[Guest guest]

concerning acid/alkaline foods.. yes, one can get neurotic thinking about it

too much

you probably have a canker sore because you said you had eaten some pecan

bread (nuts high in arginine contributing factor..)

~another factor is your PH could be out of whack

-Are you rebounding?? You need to be rebounding/lymphasizing as much as

possible... get electrical potential of cell back up! The bad guys are

taking over because of your PH levels... you need outer fluid PH below 4.0

and inner cellular fluid above 6.9

If you email me personally I can tell you more about lymphology PH oxygen

etc

jen

" And we have made of ourselves living cesspools, and driven doctors to

invent names for our diseases. " Plato

----- Original Message -----

From: <ChrisMasterjohn@...>

< >

Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 3:37 PM

Subject: Re: Re: canker sore

> Oh, I don't pay any attention to acid/alkaline either-- I just noticed

that

> whenever I go a week without raw milk I usually develop a canker sore, so

> It's just a suspicion. I don't really micromanage my diet in any way.

>

> Good luck,

> Chris

>

> In a message dated 3/21/03 10:35:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> belladormente@... writes:

>

> > interestingly I have been eating a yougurt every day for the

> > past month or so. This week I had family over and did not follow my

> > usual breakfast and also neglected my yogurt. I use Brown Cow as I

> > am still trying to get the raw milk. Have not gone to the dentist

> > lately I usually am ok just dry lips afterwards. Last time I had a

> > canker sore must be over 4 years ago so this is a very unpleasant

> > surprise. They were frequent as a child, and one of my cousins said

> > to put lemon juice on it and it would burn it off. I think he just

> > thought it was funny in his sadistic mind to watch me jump up and

> > down from the awful burning feeling.

> > As for acidifying and alkalizing I don't dabble too much on that

> > subject. It would just end up driving me crazy if I think about my

> > diet too much. Don't get me wrong, I still keep a very close eye on

> > what I eat. As my sisters found out this week grocery shopping with

> > me is quite an adventure. Still, I don't eat refined anything.

> > Carbs, I keep at 25% or less. If I started worrying about acid and

> > alkaline, I would really stress myself out. No offense. But for

> > someone who is worried about this it would be helpful. Thanks. B.

>

>

> ____

>

> " What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

> heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds,

and

> animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight

of

> them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

> compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

> bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

> Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of

the

> truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

>

> --Saint Isaac the Syrian

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>> which I finally ended with tea tree oil. I heard, after using

it, to never use essential oils full strength on skin and there I was

putting a little directly on the canker sore in my mouth!

Some essential oils cannot be applied directly to the skin, but

full-strength tea tree oil is #1 in my medicine cabinet for all scrapes,

cuts, and burns. Really keeps infections away, and super-speeds the healing.

~ Carma ~

" Having a family is like having a bowling alley installed inside your head. "

~ Mull ~

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