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Well every woman's body works differently. I have not had a period since the

end of jan of 1995. And before that I only had a couple of periods. I've been

nursing for 12 years

(4 children which include a set of twins, and two singltons all homebirthed )

and I average 3 - 3 1/2 years before fertility returns.

I do suspect that the better nourished have menstrual periods that return

sooner than those who have marginal nutrition.

I eat a healthy diet though, but am very active and on the thin side. Weight

and fat play a large role in this as well.

Elainie

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Hi,

I did eat a lot of fat in the from of raw butter and coconut oil but didn't

eat a whole lot of other dairy. My fat also came from meats as well. I ate

avocado's too although that's a different type of fat of course. I didn't set

out to lose weight as my normal weight is rather low anyways.

Elainie

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Hi Joy,

When I was macrobiotic vegan, I didn't menstruate for years. This was prior

to having children. Needless to say, I was also infertile on that diet and

didn't conceive until I ate red meat.

I feel that when the body is in a deficent state (from lack of protein) the

body will not menstruate. And of course body fat weight play a role in this

as well.

Elainie

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At 12:43 PM 3/12/2003 -0800, you wrote:

> From: " a Augustine " <pjaugustine@...>

> > But also the high-carb chickens laid the most eggs,

> > and the authors speculated that high-carb diets

> > might make humans more prolific too.

>

>Well, I guess my theories were totally off. I do

>wonder how much diet has to do with it. The high-carb

>more prolific thing I don't know if I buy...at least

>for humans. Until recently we weren't eating meat and

>were definitely high carb as are most of my vegetarian

>friends who also haven't menstruated in years.

Well, the thing about chickens is NOT that the high-carb diet

was HEALTHY for them, but that it basically throws *off*

their reproductive cycle. It is not healthy for a chicken

to lay an egg every day, which is what they do in a farm

setting. Wild birds only lay at one time of the year, and

then they only lay until they get a certain number of

eggs collected. Hens have been bred to lay more, but they

still lay at " optimum " levels only if you force them to, by

using artificial lights and a high-carb diet.

My surmising is that " forcing " the hens to lay by feeding

the wheat or corn is actually fouling up the " stop "

mechanism somehow, and may do the same in lactating

women. The carb theory according to Life Without Bread

has to do with the idea that too many carbs force higher

hormone levels, which put women at risk for all kinds

of things. Having kids close together isn't good for

the woman's body, and there *should* be a " stop " mechanism

to prevent pregnancy while a woman is nursing: maybe

our current diet fouls that up.

But Life without Meat isn't very healthy either, and l think

grains are problematic for humans for other reasons,

so I guess I wouldn't be surprised if vegetarians

stop ovulating (esp. if they are skinny vegetarians!).

Wheat IgA allergy DOES stop a lot of women from ovulating,

but that is a separate issue from carbs.

>I wondered if when we added meat back in if I would

>get a period...nope. So now we've cut out carbs and

>sugars (except for an hour at dinnertime), so we'll

>see.

>

>Joy

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