Re: coconut oil and eczema

[Guest guest]

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Absolutely no argument there!

People have been put on low-carb and low-calorie diets of equal calories.

The low-cal people lose then gain, all on the same number of calories.

While the low-carb people lose it and keep it off.

Supposedly intelligent people assume that the body creates heat and energy

in the exact same way that a fire fueled by wood or coal or whatever creates

energy in the form of heat. This is overly simplistic and totally

inaccurate.

As I'm sure you know, the bookstores are overloaded with books that tell you

that if you eliminate a few calories a day you WILL lose X number of pounds

in a year. If it were that easy this would be the skinniest country on the

planet.

Judith Alta

-----Original Message-----

Judith-

>On Atkins I can " legally " eat two or three (or more) pounds of meat per day

>and still lose weight. How does that equate in calories?

It doesn't. For whatever reason, many people still insist that calories

count, but they don't, or at least not strictly and not by themselves. As

many people know from experience, the more meat and fat and the less carbs

one eats, the more calories one can eat and lose or maintain weight.

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[Guest guest]

I have eaten more than two pounds of meat in a day. Often. Breakfast with

four four-ounce sausage patties and bacon, Eight ounces of meat for lunch

and a 14 ounce porterhouse for dinner. That's over two pounds of meat in

one day.

And Atkins will tell you up front that his plan is not for everyone.

The " feel-bad " that you mention happens, for most people, in the first seven

to ten days of the diet. Once one gets past that it's a feel-good way of

eating. And the feel good is mental as well as physical.

Judith Alta

-----Original Message-----

>That doesn't compute, Mike.

>

>On Atkins I can " legally " eat two or three (or more) pounds of meat per day

>and still lose weight. How does that equate in calories?

>

>Judith Alta

Two pounds of meat is about 2,400 calories (depending on how lean it is and

how it is cooked). Given that there are few carbs, that would be most of

the calories in the diet. Protein makes the metabolism go faster. Excess

fat tends to be excreted, not used. Protein tends to be used to make

muscle, but it is difficult for the body to turn it into fat. And if the

diet is ketogenic, your metabolism is not as efficient with calories as it

would be otherwise. So sure, you could still lose weight.

The question is, do you actually EAT two or three pounds of meat a day?

Schwartzbein's take (and my experience tends to agree) is that you have an

" appestat " which normally causes you to regulate your food intake to match

your activity level. So if you were out building a railroad, you could eat

3-4 lbs of pemmican a day, but most desk-workers could not choke down that

much. Fat and protein are really, really hard to overindulge in. Try eating

20 hard-boiled eggs someday.

But almost everyone can overindulge on carbs -- we just don't have a good

" off switch " for carbs. What is interesting is that ruminants don't have an

off switch for them either. I was reading an article about goats, and it

says if the goat gets into the grain bin, you can kiss that goat goodbye,

they will literally eat themselves to death.

So with goats, you regulate the carb intake and let them eat all the grass

they want. I think that works pretty good for people too -- no matter that

the level the carbs might be under debate.

So it's a lot more complicated than just calories. But it's not as simple

as " calories don't count " either. Given a diet with a steady macronutrient

percentage, metabolism, and fiber level, more calories usually translates

into more fat.

Heidi S

[Guest guest]

I know different things work for different people. We all have our

own products or supplements that work best for certain individuals.

For our dd, her eczema didn't get better until we removed corn

products and started a Gluten-free diet.

Each of us have our own unique combination of things that will work

best, and it just takes research, time, patience, and trial and error

to discover what that unique combination is...

Interesting about the coconut oil. Will have to keep that one in mind

if ever needed.

Gretchen

> I read on this list a while back that coconut oil was good for

> eczema. I didn't remember if it was to eat the coconut oil or to

put it in the skin. Since my almost 2 yrs old grandaughter had a bad

case of eczema I told my daughter to use the coconut oil on her skin

every day after a bath. In a couple of days it was better and a

couple of weeks later it was gone. Since it work for her, I told my

other daughter to try it too. The first time she use it on her skin

she said it was really itchy and became really red. But she kept on

using it and now it is almost gone. So, I have a question, does

anyone know why does it work?

[Guest guest]

> I read on this list a while back that coconut oil was good for

> eczema. I didn't remember if it was to eat the coconut oil or to put

> it in the skin. Since my almost 2 yrs old grandaughter had a bad case

> of eczema I told my daughter to use the coconut oil on her skin every

> day after a bath. In a couple of days it was better and a couple of

> weeks later it was gone.

Coconut oil is good as an anti-viral. And anti-virals [olive leaf

extract] eliminated a skin condition for one of my kids. You might

consider giving OLE, see if you notice any other improvements. The

coconut on the skin *might* have pushed any virus issues internally.

Dana