RE: OSTEOPOROSIS/protein/acid/alkaline

[Guest guest]

boy.. this topic never stops being controversial does it

I agree with both and . It would seem easy to become confused

either way.

I'm new here but I understand about needing to neutralize the phytic acid in

grains that inhibits cal absorption... what I am still trying to figure out

is the whole protein acid/alkaline ash/calcium loss thing.

As everyone knows, I am 27 yr old female with osteoporosis so as you can see

I would be highly concerned to get accurate information when everything

would seem to be contraindicating something else~~~

I agreed with what Dr said about not limiting protein and I

understand protein is a good thing... protein has nitrogen... our bodies

need this!! If we get too much protein our bod's will eliminate as urea.

I understand our bodies have buffering systems if we have excess of one

thing~ too much protein for example...sodium will go out of our alkaline

reserves... along with calcium etc.

Our bodies strive for balance/homeostasis etc.

~From what said, I can understand about the study done with massive

amounts of soy protein isolates as opposed to the actual food in it's whole

state, but I also understand that there is more to the picture than just

that.... there is lots of biochemistry... lots of anatomy... lots of

physiology involved here

jen

--THE LIVING CELL IS A MINIATURE COLD FUSION NUCLEAR REACTOR CAPABLE OF

ELEMENTAL TRANSFORMATlONS THAT NET EXCESS ENERGY BACK TO THE LIVING SYSTEM!

ONLY GOD COULD HAVE ENGINEERED THIS AND ONLY GOD CAN IMPROVE ON IT!

----- Original Message -----

From: " Coyle " <jafffaus@...>

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Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 12:07 PM

Subject: Re: green supplements

> ,

>

> I thought I would throw something in here.

>

> Discounting Wilcox work with the Metabolic Diet, most

> " authorities " that I have read agree that grains,

> meats, and fats are acidic. Vegetables and fruits are

> alkalizing (except for a few). They say from various

> studies that an acidic terrain is disease causing and

> an alkaline terrain is healing. They say that a body

> that is more alkaline (except for the stomach, of

> course), is healthier and fights illness better.

>

> If this is true, then it appears that a diet high in

> grains, meats and fats will be a problem for that

> person eventually; maybe even sooner.

>

> I know of a nutitionist that is a very dedicated

> following of NT/WAP and does eat meat, fat and

> proteins, but makes sure he is eating plenty of

> vegetables, coral calcium/ mag. to alkalize his

> system. He says that a Atkins type diet after the

> weight loss is very detrimental to the body, because

> it is so acid forming. So, whether or not calcium is

> leached out of the bones is a mute point. What is

> important is that the body stays in an alkaline state,

> not an acidic state.

>

> , I take it you will disagree with this. But,

> many practitioners consider the above points very

> valid from a total health perspective.

>

> Any comments would be appreciated.

>

>

> --- Idol <Idol@...> wrote:

> > Jen-

> >

> > >~Is this how the Stone-Age people counteracted the

> > calciuretic effects of

> > >their high protein diets??

> >

> > There is no calciuretic effect from a " high protein "

> > diet, and studies show

> > that people who eat more meat have stronger bones.

> > In fact, the component

> > of bones that make them strong isn't even calcium --

> > think how fragile

> > chalk is -- but protein. The studies that purport

> > to show that protein

> > consumption causes osteoporosis used protein

> > isolates, not meat, and fed

> > subjects enormous quantities of those denatured,

> > toxic isolates.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> >

[Guest guest]

jen, i know there are a number of potential causes of osteoperosis, and one

of them is gluten sensitivity. have you been tested for gluten sensitivity?

do you have any other health issues? new research is showing gluten

sensitivity to be much more widespread than previously thought - something

like 1 in 3 north americans.

just something else to consider.

Suze Fisher

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