Re: toothpaste preferences

[Guest guest]

Since I have a horrid problem with tooth decay, I've been rinsing my mouth

out with baking soda from time to time, to encourage an alkaline environment

in my mouth. It makes my mouth feel lots fresher than toothpaste ever could!

I wonder if rinsing with whey is a good idea? To lactobacilli take up home

in the mouth?

Chris

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

[Guest guest]

Hi, I am new to the group. I have used Myhrr to brush my teeth just put some

powder on muy hand and dip my wet tooth brush in it, I have also used powdered

charcoal that is a little messier but like both how my mouth feels clean.

" h2ocolor1937 <h2ocolor@...> " <h2ocolor@...> wrote:I use

Weleda too. I like their calendula toothpaste. Any peppermint

makes my mouth break out is nasty little sores. Horrid!

I would like to make some of my own toothpaste, because I find Weleda

very costly. You can by a pound of calcium carbonate at a drug store

for about $15.00. This is a stadard component of most toothpastes. It

usually must be ordered. Imagine how much toothpaste could be made

with that quanity of mild abrasive. I think I will try the baking

soda first. It is not very costly either, maybe even cheaper if you

buy a huge box at Costco.

Sheila

--- In , " CountryGirl " <ruthful@p...>

wrote:

> I use Weleda, in the green box/tube. Has myrrh and some other

healing ingredients. It is the only one that does not make my

chronic fatigue symtoms worse.

>

> Blessings

> Donna

> http://www.excellentthings.net

[Guest guest]

I brush my teeth with MSM

~my teeth are white and beautiful

jen

----- Original Message -----

From: " mary moberg " <pocketsmoberg@...>

< >

Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:50 PM

Subject: Re: toothpaste preferences

>

> Hi, I am new to the group. I have used Myhrr to brush my teeth just put

some powder on muy hand and dip my wet tooth brush in it, I have also used

powdered charcoal that is a little messier but like both how my mouth feels

clean.

> " h2ocolor1937 <h2ocolor@...> " <h2ocolor@...> wrote:I

use Weleda too. I like their calendula toothpaste. Any peppermint

> makes my mouth break out is nasty little sores. Horrid!

>

> I would like to make some of my own toothpaste, because I find Weleda

> very costly. You can by a pound of calcium carbonate at a drug store

> for about $15.00. This is a stadard component of most toothpastes. It

> usually must be ordered. Imagine how much toothpaste could be made

> with that quanity of mild abrasive. I think I will try the baking

> soda first. It is not very costly either, maybe even cheaper if you

> buy a huge box at Costco.

> Sheila

>

>

> > I use Weleda, in the green box/tube. Has myrrh and some other

> healing ingredients. It is the only one that does not make my

> chronic fatigue symtoms worse.

> >

> > Blessings

> > Donna

> > http://www.excellentthings.net

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

bitter

----- Original Message -----

From: " Irene Musiol " <irene@...>

< >

Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:51 PM

Subject: Re: toothpaste preferences

> How does it taste?

>

> At 11:41 PM 2/10/03, you wrote:

> >I brush my teeth with MSM

> >~my teeth are white and beautiful

> >

> >jen

> >----- Original Message -----

> >From: " mary moberg " <pocketsmoberg@...>

> >< >

> >Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:50 PM

> >Subject: Re: toothpaste preferences

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Hi, I am new to the group. I have used Myhrr to brush my teeth just

put

> >some powder on muy hand and dip my wet tooth brush in it, I have also

used

> >powdered charcoal that is a little messier but like both how my mouth

feels

> >clean.

> > > " h2ocolor1937 <h2ocolor@...> " <h2ocolor@...>

wrote:I

> >use Weleda too. I like their calendula toothpaste. Any peppermint

> > > makes my mouth break out is nasty little sores. Horrid!

> > >

> > > I would like to make some of my own toothpaste, because I find Weleda

> > > very costly. You can by a pound of calcium carbonate at a drug store

> > > for about $15.00. This is a stadard component of most toothpastes. It

> > > usually must be ordered. Imagine how much toothpaste could be made

> > > with that quanity of mild abrasive. I think I will try the baking

> > > soda first. It is not very costly either, maybe even cheaper if you

> > > buy a huge box at Costco.

> > > Sheila

> > >

> > >

> > > > I use Weleda, in the green box/tube. Has myrrh and some other

> > > healing ingredients. It is the only one that does not make my

> > > chronic fatigue symtoms worse.

> > > >

> > > > Blessings

> > > > Donna

> > > > <http://www.excellentthings.net>http://www.excellentthings.net

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

How does it taste?

At 11:41 PM 2/10/03, you wrote:

>I brush my teeth with MSM

>~my teeth are white and beautiful

>

>jen

>----- Original Message -----

>From: " mary moberg " <pocketsmoberg@...>

>< >

>Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:50 PM

>Subject: Re: toothpaste preferences

>

>

> >

> > Hi, I am new to the group. I have used Myhrr to brush my teeth just put

>some powder on muy hand and dip my wet tooth brush in it, I have also used

>powdered charcoal that is a little messier but like both how my mouth feels

>clean.

> > " h2ocolor1937 <h2ocolor@...> " <h2ocolor@...> wrote:I

>use Weleda too. I like their calendula toothpaste. Any peppermint

> > makes my mouth break out is nasty little sores. Horrid!

> >

> > I would like to make some of my own toothpaste, because I find Weleda

> > very costly. You can by a pound of calcium carbonate at a drug store

> > for about $15.00. This is a stadard component of most toothpastes. It

> > usually must be ordered. Imagine how much toothpaste could be made

> > with that quanity of mild abrasive. I think I will try the baking

> > soda first. It is not very costly either, maybe even cheaper if you

> > buy a huge box at Costco.

> > Sheila

> >

> >

> > > I use Weleda, in the green box/tube. Has myrrh and some other

> > healing ingredients. It is the only one that does not make my

> > chronic fatigue symtoms worse.

> > >

> > > Blessings

> > > Donna

> > > <http://www.excellentthings.net>http://www.excellentthings.net

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/11/03 5:51:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, irene@...

writes:

> Doesn't Tom's put fluoride in their toothpaste?

They have fluoride and non-fluoride. I've been using Tom's, but they do use

a few crappy ingredients here and there, like sodium lauryl sulfate, at least

according the article that was just posted in this thread. Since I read

that, I tried brushing with a lump of baking soda and drop of tea tree oil,

and I think I'm just going to do that from now on b/c it makes my mouth feel

fresher than any toothpaste ever has.

Chris

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Sorry about that last blank message. I take flower essences for spiritual

support and for this reason like a homeopathic non-mint toothpaste. My vote

is for Tom's - yes expensive but they have an excellent product and are an

environmentally conscious company. I'm sure most people have heard of them

but I wanted to mention their homeopathic style baking soda toothpaste. It's

plain - not bad tasting. If anyone else on this list takes homeopathics or

flower essences I'd highly recommend investing in this kind of toothpaste

because it makes the remedies much more effective.

Cheers,

[Guest guest]

Doesn't Tom's put fluoride in their toothpaste?

At 02:19 PM 2/11/03, you wrote:

>Hi,

>

>Sorry about that last blank message. I take flower essences for spiritual

>support and for this reason like a homeopathic non-mint toothpaste. My vote

>is for Tom's - yes expensive but they have an excellent product and are an

>environmentally conscious company. I'm sure most people have heard of them

>but I wanted to mention their homeopathic style baking soda toothpaste. It's

>plain - not bad tasting. If anyone else on this list takes homeopathics or

>flower essences I'd highly recommend investing in this kind of toothpaste

>because it makes the remedies much more effective.

>

>Cheers,

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You mean better = I like it its more antiseptic than bitter.

Evely <je@...> wrote:bitter

----- Original Message -----

From: " Irene Musiol " <irene@...>

< >

Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:51 PM

Subject: Re: toothpaste preferences

> How does it taste?

>

> At 11:41 PM 2/10/03, you wrote:

> >I brush my teeth with MSM

> >~my teeth are white and beautiful

> >

> >jen

> >----- Original Message -----

> >From: " mary moberg " <pocketsmoberg@...>

> >< >

> >Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:50 PM

> >Subject: Re: toothpaste preferences

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Hi, I am new to the group. I have used Myhrr to brush my teeth just

put

> >some powder on muy hand and dip my wet tooth brush in it, I have also

used

> >powdered charcoal that is a little messier but like both how my mouth

feels

> >clean.

> > > " h2ocolor1937 <h2ocolor@...> " <h2ocolor@...>

wrote:I

> >use Weleda too. I like their calendula toothpaste. Any peppermint

> > > makes my mouth break out is nasty little sores. Horrid!

> > >

> > > I would like to make some of my own toothpaste, because I find Weleda

> > > very costly. You can by a pound of calcium carbonate at a drug store

> > > for about $15.00. This is a stadard component of most toothpastes. It

> > > usually must be ordered. Imagine how much toothpaste could be made

> > > with that quanity of mild abrasive. I think I will try the baking

> > > soda first. It is not very costly either, maybe even cheaper if you

> > > buy a huge box at Costco.

> > > Sheila

> > >

> > >

> > > > I use Weleda, in the green box/tube. Has myrrh and some other

> > > healing ingredients. It is the only one that does not make my

> > > chronic fatigue symtoms worse.

> > > >

> > > > Blessings

> > > > Donna

> > > > <http://www.excellentthings.net>http://www.excellentthings.net

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Our local health food store has Tom's toothpaste and I've noticed that you

have to read the labels as some have fluoride.

Judith Alta

-----Original Message-----

From: Gauntlett [mailto:jonathang@...]

Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:20 PM

Subject: Re: Toothpaste preferences

Hi,

Sorry about that last blank message. I take flower essences for spiritual

support and for this reason like a homeopathic non-mint toothpaste. My vote

is for Tom's - yes expensive but they have an excellent product and are an

environmentally conscious company. I'm sure most people have heard of them

but I wanted to mention their homeopathic style baking soda toothpaste. It's

plain - not bad tasting. If anyone else on this list takes homeopathics or

flower essences I'd highly recommend investing in this kind of toothpaste

because it makes the remedies much more effective.

Cheers,

[Guest guest]

I used to brush with baking powder, but putting hydrogen peroxide with it

made me nauseous. I stopped doing it when they started making toothpaste

with baking powder because it was less of a mess in the bathroom. Maybe I

should go back. It's very easy to use baking powder alone. It's like using

European tooth powder. Thinking back, maybe it did cut down on cavities. I

just never connected the two.

Robin

From: " h2ocolor1937 <h2ocolor@...> " <h2ocolor@...>

Reply-

Subject: toothpaste preferences

Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 21:04:11 -0000

I use Weleda too. I like their calendula toothpaste. Any peppermint

makes my mouth break out is nasty little sores. Horrid!

I would like to make some of my own toothpaste, because I find Weleda

very costly. You can by a pound of calcium carbonate at a drug store

for about $15.00. This is a stadard component of most toothpastes. It

usually must be ordered. Imagine how much toothpaste could be made

with that quanity of mild abrasive. I think I will try the baking

soda first. It is not very costly either, maybe even cheaper if you

buy a huge box at Costco.

Sheila

--- In , " CountryGirl " <ruthful@p...>

wrote:

> I use Weleda, in the green box/tube. Has myrrh and some other

healing ingredients. It is the only one that does not make my

chronic fatigue symtoms worse.

>

> Blessings

> Donna

> http://www.excellentthings.net

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[Guest guest]

> In a message dated 2/11/03 5:51:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,

irene@q...

> writes:

>

> > Doesn't Tom's put fluoride in their toothpaste?

>

> They have fluoride and non-fluoride. I've been using Tom's, but

> they do use a few crappy ingredients here and there, like sodium

> lauryl sulfate

I've read the claim about how SLS is an irritant countless times, but

I have yet to be irritated by any product containing it. Aubrey from

Aubrey Organics makes a big fuss about how SLS is manufactured using

strong acid, but his own " natural " shampoo is based on coconut oil

soap, which is made with a strong alkalai, and his shampoo burns my

eyes and turns my hair to straw.

You'll often see cites of the MSDS sheet for SLS, but they never take

into account that the SLS in products is diluted. Look at the MSDS

sheet for glacial acetic acid; it's nasty stuff ( " This material is

strongly corrosive and causes serious burns " ). But, that doesn't mean

the vinegar in your salad dressing is going to cause serious burns in

your GI tract. Personally, I take the warnings about SLS as seriously

as the claim that canola oil is what they made mustard gas out of in

WWII.

[Guest guest]

make sure to dilute the tea tree well (you can pre mix 1 Tablespoon of

baking soda with 1 drop of tea tree). Tea tree oil is a powerful sensitizer

(you can become allergic to it over time). As with ALL essential oils--DILUTE

DILUTE DILUTE.

Just my 2 cents,

----- Original Message -----

From: ChrisMasterjohn@...

Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 6:52 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Toothpaste preferences

In a message dated 2/11/03 5:51:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, irene@...

writes:

> Doesn't Tom's put fluoride in their toothpaste?

They have fluoride and non-fluoride. I've been using Tom's, but they do use

a few crappy ingredients here and there, like sodium lauryl sulfate, at least

according the article that was just posted in this thread. Since I read

that, I tried brushing with a lump of baking soda and drop of tea tree oil,

and I think I'm just going to do that from now on b/c it makes my mouth feel

fresher than any toothpaste ever has.

Chris

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

[Guest guest]

Regarding sodium lauryl sulfate: I worked in a molecular biology lab for

many years, and this is what the industry uses to bust apart cells. The

membranes just vanish (and then you can isolate the DNA). I don't doubt

that the presence of SLS doesn't irritate many, but I wouldn't knowingly

consume any amount of the stuff.

I cringe when I watch my husband swallow the stuff if he brushes his teeth

(with HIS toothpaste containing SLS and fluoride) where there isn't a sink

or a polite place to spit. But he is far healthier than I, so I'm not

trying to save him yet.

-Linnea

----- Original Message -----

From: <johnny_tesla@...>

< >

Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 6:34 AM

Subject: Re: Toothpaste preferences

>

> > In a message dated 2/11/03 5:51:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> irene@q...

> > writes:

> >

> > > Doesn't Tom's put fluoride in their toothpaste?

> >

> > They have fluoride and non-fluoride. I've been using Tom's, but

> > they do use a few crappy ingredients here and there, like sodium

> > lauryl sulfate

>

> I've read the claim about how SLS is an irritant countless times, but

> I have yet to be irritated by any product containing it. Aubrey from

> Aubrey Organics makes a big fuss about how SLS is manufactured using

> strong acid, but his own " natural " shampoo is based on coconut oil

> soap, which is made with a strong alkalai, and his shampoo burns my

> eyes and turns my hair to straw.

>

> You'll often see cites of the MSDS sheet for SLS, but they never take

> into account that the SLS in products is diluted. Look at the MSDS

> sheet for glacial acetic acid; it's nasty stuff ( " This material is

> strongly corrosive and causes serious burns " ). But, that doesn't mean

> the vinegar in your salad dressing is going to cause serious burns in

> your GI tract. Personally, I take the warnings about SLS as seriously

> as the claim that canola oil is what they made mustard gas out of in

> WWII.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Isn't sodium lauryl sulfate made from coconuts? One of the ways coconut oil

works against viruses is by dissolving the envelope on " enveloped viruses. "

So it does not surprise me that this would happen in a lab.

Don't remember where I read that, but Enig may have some articles on

it. If anyone is interested I can see if I can find them again.

Judith Alta

-----Original Message-----

Regarding sodium lauryl sulfate: I worked in a molecular biology lab for

many years, and this is what the industry uses to bust apart cells. The

membranes just vanish (and then you can isolate the DNA). I don't doubt

that the presence of SLS doesn't irritate many, but I wouldn't knowingly

consume any amount of the stuff.

I cringe when I watch my husband swallow the stuff if he brushes his teeth

(with HIS toothpaste containing SLS and fluoride) where there isn't a sink

or a polite place to spit. But he is far healthier than I, so I'm not

trying to save him yet.

-Linnea

[Guest guest]

--- In , " Judith Alta " <jaltak@v...>

wrote:

> Isn't sodium lauryl sulfate made from coconuts?

Yes, SLS is made from lauric acid. Coconut oil is about 50-55% lauric

acid.

[Guest guest]

,

You're right... I've never been irritated either. I shouldn't have jumped.

Chris

In a message dated 2/12/03 9:36:06 AM Eastern Standard Time,

johnny_tesla@... writes:

> I've read the claim about how SLS is an irritant countless times, but

> I have yet to be irritated by any product containing it. Aubrey from

> Aubrey Organics makes a big fuss about how SLS is manufactured using

> strong acid, but his own " natural " shampoo is based on coconut oil

> soap, which is made with a strong alkalai, and his shampoo burns my

> eyes and turns my hair to straw.

>

> You'll often see cites of the MSDS sheet for SLS, but they never take

> into account that the SLS in products is diluted. Look at the MSDS

> sheet for glacial acetic acid; it's nasty stuff ( " This material is

> strongly corrosive and causes serious burns " ). But, that doesn't mean

> the vinegar in your salad dressing is going to cause serious burns in

> your GI tract. Personally, I take the warnings about SLS as seriously

> as the claim that canola oil is what they made mustard gas out of in

> WWII.

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the heads up.

Chris

In a message dated 2/12/03 10:58:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, jc137@...

writes:

> make sure to dilute the tea tree well (you can pre mix 1 Tablespoon

of

> baking soda with 1 drop of tea tree). Tea tree oil is a powerful

sensitizer (

> you can become allergic to it over time). As with ALL essential

oils--DILUTE

> DILUTE DILUTE.

>

> Just my 2 cents,

>

>

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian