Re: Metabolic diet/acid/alkaline etc./blood type diet

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> Blows blood type A, best as vegetarians out of the water too.

I've had the same experience, I'm type A and was vegetarian for a

while, and it did NOT work for me. It wasn't specifically the type A

diet, but after the fact I read about the type A diet in the Eat Right

4 Your Type book, and my diet when I was a vegetarian was

essentially his type A diet, only included a few of his " avoid "

foods (like tomatoes and other nightshades). I feel SO much

better eating generous amounts of the things D'Adamo says are

practically poison for my blood type - beef, butter, dairy in many

forms, etc., and no soy except for small amounts of fermented

products such as miso and soy sauce. In reading the blood type

book again, what he describes for type A is almost completely

opposite of my own experience in some ways. For instance, he

says something to the effect of " you may have already noticed

that when you eat meat, you feel heavy and sluggish " , but I find

quality meat to be energizing (with the exception of pork, which

usually doesn't agree with me). The blood type diet believers I've

talked with about this say maybe I have a subtype that changes

my reaction, but when I read in the book and D'Adamo's website

about subtypes, none of it indicates the reactions he predicts

would be so opposite as mine. So, that pretty much shoots

down his whole theory as far as I'm concerned. He says it

should work for all people of each blood type, but it certainly

doesn't for me. On the vegetarian diet very close to his type A

diet, I started to gain weight, my skin got very dry and started to

look more aged than it should, and I started to have the same

blood sugar swings I did years ago when I ate a standard

American diet.

Aubin

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Hi,

I just had to comment on the similarities of my experience, first

with Wanita's last paragraph, and second with Aubin's entire post,

which I had to check and make sure I didn't write myself (maybe like

sleep-posting or something).

May I jump in and ask one quick question to you, Aubin? Has your

current diet completely cured your dry skin?

Thanks,

> <wanitawa@b...> wrote:

>

> > Blows blood type A, best as vegetarians out of the water too.

>

> I've had the same experience, I'm type A and was vegetarian for a

> while, and it did NOT work for me.

[Guest guest]

> May I jump in and ask one quick question to you, Aubin? Has

your

> current diet completely cured your dry skin?

Well, yes. I'd never had dry skin before that, except for the first

couple months of pregnancy (when the hormones are really in

an uproar and *everything* gets weird), and it hasn't been dry

again since quitting the vegetarian thing and going NT. I do use

lotion on my hands, they get dry because I wash them a lot

(animals, kids, and my life in general tend to require lots of hand

washing), and some cream on my face occasionally. It's not as

if I've had a lifetime of dry skin and NT cured it, but it reversed the

dry skin I had while eating vegetarian. I had started to notice my

face looking rapidly more aged, kind of dull and with more lines,

but now that's gone, I don't feel like I look older than my actual

age anymore.

Aubin

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At 05:32 AM 2/2/03 +0000, you wrote:

>

>Well, yes.  I'd never had dry skin before that, except for the first

>couple months of pregnancy (when the hormones are really in

>an uproar and *everything* gets weird), and it hasn't been dry

>again since quitting the vegetarian thing and going NT.  It's not as

>if I've had a lifetime of dry skin and NT cured it, but it reversed the

>dry skin I had while eating vegetarian.  I had started to notice my

>face looking rapidly more aged, kind of dull and with more lines,

>but now that's gone, I don't feel like I look older than my actual

>age anymore.

Now that I think about it it could have been me thinking back to my skin and

diet too with your post, Aubin. In '89 I stopped eating fat on meat because of

what seemed to be gall bladder problems. My diet then was more the meat and

potatoes I grew up on. From then till NT I added more salads, fruit, less

protein, more carb meal stretchers, bad fats and cut out dairy. The

hypoglycemia that began the same time as the gall bladder didn't reduce until

NT less than a year ago. My face wrinkles and aging they gave me then I was

not

happy with. Now they're nearly gone or gone. We've had a harder winter than

usual but my skin is fine except for my hands as usual in and out of water,

heat and cold. I do have this patch of eczema on my left elbow that was there

last I remember the winter of '85. Its just pink, half the size it was then,

not scaly, itchy, bleed if you scratch like then. Am thinking has my skin

reversed 18 years or what would it be like if I wasn't eating NT.

Wanita

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> <wanitawa@b...> wrote:

> >

> > > Blows blood type A, best as vegetarians out of the water too.

> >

> > I've had the same experience, I'm type A and was vegetarian for a

> > while, and it did NOT work for me.

i've never read d'adamo's book, but was interested in his theory. So

on my low carb list, I set up a poll, asking people for whom low carb

was working select their blood types. Low carb worked for all blood

group types, whereas I believe it is most suited to the O-group. OK,

so only 12 people voted, but it was enough to suggest to me that the

theory wasn't valid, and that as a Type AB, I should carry on with

low carb, if it was working.

Jo

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>> Excuse a little nit-picking, but I really dislike

seeing the type A plan described at vegetarian and

really don't understand why Dr. D'Adamo has it on his

book jackets. There are quite few fish listed as

beneficial and neutral; and much poultry is neutral; <<

I am type A, but I absolutely cannot do veggie - it totally whacks my blood

sugar. That said, I agree that it's not a purely veggie diet. However,

chicken and fish don't cut it for me - I do much better eating LOTS of red

meat! The blood-type diet profile plain doesn't work for my metabolism!

And my type-A hubby gained and gained and never lost an ounce for years

until Atkins, and now he's lost 100lb on red meat and cheese. :-) He eats

veggies too, but we eat more red meat than chicken and fish.

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Carma-

>I am type A, but I absolutely cannot do veggie - it totally whacks my blood

>sugar.

Me too.

>chicken and fish don't cut it for me - I do much better eating LOTS of red

>meat! The blood-type diet profile plain doesn't work for my metabolism!

And me again! Eating loads of red meat is the best single thing I seem to

be able to do for my health, energy and weight.

I think the blood type diet is basically complete bunk for two

reasons. First, all the improvements people of all blood types have

enjoyed by employing it can be ascribed to cutting out junk food, which has

nothing to do with the actual blood type hypothesis. And second, I don't

think these undigested lectins would be getting into the bloodstream at all

without serious digestive impairment, so if you improve digestion and

overall health, it becomes a non-issue -- and as far as I can tell, the key

to improving digestion and overall health almost always involves the proper

animal foods -- good fats, including plenty of saturated fat, bone broths,

a decent amount of animal protein, etc.

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[Guest guest]

At 02:56 PM 2/3/03 -0500, wrote:

and as far as I can tell, the key

>to improving digestion and overall health almost always involves the proper

>animal foods -- good fats, including plenty of saturated fat, bone broths,

>a decent amount of animal protein, etc.

The rawer the better, too. Amazed at my digestion with rare grass fed beef.

Better than cooked and much better than the high carb, low protein, low fat

stretched meals of before. Haven't got to raw liver myself. Thinking of pate

maybe. Have some lamb liver given me by person I work for. She needed freezer

room for this year's. Is organic grain and grass fed, raised about a mile from

here and I take care of livestock when she goes away. Not ideal but I'd be

more

familiar with its raising only if I did it all myself. Get nauseated if I take

a B complex supplement over 50 mg. so liver is the way to go.

Wanita

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> But there is more to the blood type

> plans than carbs, and it is definitely possible for

> any blood type to follow the blood type plans and

> low-carb too.

It seems to me in order to follow his type A guidelines and be

low carb, your only high protein sources of food would be soy

(which he pushes, pushes, pushes for type A, in every form, and

which also contains significant carbs if not in an isolated protein

form), the fish species he suggests are beneficial (only a

handful of which I've ever seen in stores in my area), and only

very occasional poultry, eggs and the few dairy items he lists as

neutral, since he says to eat mostly beneficial and keep neutral

items to a minimum. Seems too monotonous for healthy eating,

to me, in combo with the vegetable list for type A.

> Excuse a little nit-picking, but I really dislike

> seeing the type A plan described at vegetarian and

> really don't understand why Dr. D'Adamo has it on his

> book jackets.

I believe he calls type A the " natural vegetarian " in the text of the

book as well. Including fish and occasional poultry also doesn't

fit my definition of vegetarian, but then I've read a lot in his

theories that " doesn't fit " .

> In case you all haven't guessed, my experience with

> Eat Right has been positive (if nothing else, it was

> through Eat Right lists that I found NT!), but also it

> helped with some digestive track issues.

I'm not trying to discount anyone's positive results, but the people

I know who have seen benefit from it were including many things

in their diets previously that I think aren't good for anybody, like

large amounts of refined grains, feed lot and factory farmed meat

selected on the basis that it was cheap to buy, refined vegetable

oils, aspartame, distilled alcohol, pasteurized/homogenized/low

fat dairy from confinement operations, etc. Certainly they're

doing better on their blood type diet than they were before, but I

believe they could have obtained the same and possibly greater

benefits doing something different that also eliminated items

like I mentioned above but still included some of what I believe

are healthful foods that D'Adamo says are avoids.

> On blood

> type forums, though, some of us have wondered what

> impact, say, lacto-fermenting would have on " avoids " ,

> because I don't think they have been tested that way.

> Sauerkraut is on the lists, but I'm sure what they

> tested was not lacto-fermented.

I also doubt if any of his " testing " was done on raw dairy or

raw/rare meat, and I know personally my body reacts differently

to raw dairy than pasteurized.

Aubin