Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 .. << This will keep you bile flowing and keep your stools soft!>> This is what I wonder about, do you or not have a constant flow of bile after surgery? Or is it released on signal after eating fats or protien? Someone mentioned that the lecithin caused them more pain. I have been having intermittent pain in the gb for the past couple days. Today it was a little worse with the pain extending up into the right chest. Is this anything to worry about? Then I felt something move down there. I have that stone near the neck and wonder if it was acting up. I am going to the gastro on Tuesday. laura ----- Original Message ----- From: <Kalexan328@...> <gallstonesegroups> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 1:22 PM Subject: Flush after surgery > Hi Diane! > > My Dad has done numerous flushes over the years AFTER he had his gb > removed. He has not had any greenies " appear. It is probably wise > for everyone to do a liver flush every 1-3 years! > > I get both the liquid and granuale lecithin at a health food grocery > store. I would take the lecithin and flaxseed oil 5-7 mornings a > week on an empty stomach. This will keep you bile flowing and keep > your stools soft! > > ken > > > Collected testimonials: > http:///messages/gallstones-testimonials > You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the gallstonesegroups. To unsubscribe: Mailto:gallstones-unsubscribeegroups > To subscribe again: Mailto:gallstones-subscribeegroups > To change status to digest: Mailto:gallstones-digestegroups > To change status to normal: Mailto;gallstones-normalegroups > By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! > List Archives: http:///messages/gallstones > Web Sites: http://home.online.no/~dusan/gallstones/ > Have a nice day ! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2001 Report Share Posted January 7, 2001 <<VThis is what I wonder about, do you or not have a constant flow of bile after surgery? Or is it released on signal after eating fats or protien<< You have a constant flow of bile even when you HAVE your gallbladder. Only about 1% of your bile gets stored and concentrated in your gallbladder, the rest goes directly from your liver to the common bile duct, flowing constantly. Debra _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2001 Report Share Posted January 7, 2001 A great site that tells all about digestion and the liver can be found at: http://arbl.cvmbs.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathphys/digestion/liver/index. html As the following excerpt indicates... Bile does flow constantly, yet it has low flows during fasting, higher flows during eating and highest flows when eating fats. ken -Pattern and Control of Bile Secretion The flow of bile is lowest during fasting, and a majority of that is diverted into the gallbladder for concentration. When chyme from an ingested meal enters the small intestine, acid and partially digested fats and proteins stimulate secretion of cholecystokinin and secretin. As discussed previously, these enteric hormones have important effects on pancreatic exocrine secretion. They are both also important for secretion and flow of bile: Cholecystokinin: The name of this hormone describes its effect on the biliary system - cholecysto = gallbladder and kinin = movement. The most potent stimulus for release of cholecystokinin is the presence of fat in the duodenum. Once released, it stimulates contractions of the gallbladder and common bile duct, resulting in delivery of bile into the gut. Secretin: This hormone is secreted in response to acid in the duodenum. Its effect on the biliary system is very similar to what was seen in the pancreas - it simulates biliary duct cells to secrete bicarbonate and water, which expands the volume of bile and increases its flow out into the intestine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2001 Report Share Posted January 7, 2001 > You have a constant flow of bile even when you HAVE your gallbladder. Only > about 1% of your bile gets stored and concentrated in your gallbladder, the > rest goes directly from your liver to the common bile duct, flowing > constantly. This seems contrary to both the butchers and Hulda . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2001 Report Share Posted January 7, 2001 > So what, then, causes the post surgery chronic diarrhea? Something that went > wrong in surgery? laura > > > > Since surgery I have had very hard stools, not the diarrea expected. I have taken psylium everyday and now am taking stool softeners. This has caused a terrible case of hemmeroids too. Not everyone is the same. Jerome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2001 Report Share Posted January 7, 2001 >>This seems contrary to both the butchers and Hulda << Once again you have proven yourself misinformed, while sounding like an closed-minded zealot. Debra _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2001 Report Share Posted January 8, 2001 " Gallstones cleanse instead of surgery. Support e-group! Cleanse Liver and the Gallbladder, flush gallstones! -We are people sharing information on cleansing gall stones from the Liver and the Gallbladder. " I don't know who set this list up, but they have my profuse thanks. Regards, Rex Harrill > Once again you have proven yourself misinformed, while sounding like an > closed-minded zealot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2001 Report Share Posted January 8, 2001 Hi, I am just lurking intermittently on this list, but I think someone here asked about diarrhea after gallbladder surgery. I found this page and thought it might be helpful. http://www.constipation.net/publications/chapter07.html Jules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2001 Report Share Posted January 8, 2001 Hi Debra! I undesrastand that diarrhea is NOT a significant problem for most people who have their gb's removed. It does happen to some, AND can become chronic for a small %. Your increase in strength can be the esult of feeling better and sleeping better. Also, strength tends to be realtive on a day by day basis... Try again tomorrow and you may find that your son beats you in arm wrestling! This doesn't mean anything is wrong... just that your not as strong that day! ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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