Side effects...tremours/convulsions???

October 30, 2004

Hi!

I talked a friend through the immunics clearing over the 'phone, and he

experienced severe tremors throughout his whole body.

Has anyone else ever reported this?

What happened:-

He doesn't have easy computer access, so bought and gave him the CD, months

ago ....but you know how busy people are, despite his real interest.

Then last Tuesday, (he is off work following an angiogram, and waiting for a

stent procedure) I said ..you've now got time to listen to the CD if you

want... but he said.,.. why don't you talk me through it..... so I did!

His 'signal' came quite quickly and was a swaying of his head from side to

side.

So he seemed to be connected.

Then we removed all pathologies from all of his bodies, and he experienced

quite a vigorous shaking of his upper body, lasting a few seconds (I could

hear something was going on). He said it was OK, and I apologised for

starting taking all out in 1 go!

But he said that despite the shakings it was fine....

I asked if he'd ever felt anything like that before and he said that he had

during very deep meditation.... he said it felt cathartic, and was happy -

wanting - to continue.

So I said, we'd do the immune dysfunctions body by body.....

which we did....

but each time he seemed to have stronger tremors/convulsions, so that at one

point his legs (he was reclining) were moving rapidly up and down, and his

feet too.... he said that it was so fast that he couldn't actually replicate

it himself.

I kept checking if he was OK.... and he said yes.

Afterwards, he felt very good, (calm clear place), but fatigued, but it had

been a great cathartic release..... (and thanked me)...

so I told him to nap for a while, which he did for 15-20 mins apparently.

Anyway ... I just wanted to report this, and also to check if anyone else

had ever experienced such a strong reaction?

The next day he said that his legs felt like after exercising (build up of

lactic acid??), so he sat in a hot bath, and then the following day he could

barely walk.... and as he had a doctor's appointment, used painkillers to

get himself there....

where they said he'd actually torn his leg muscle!

Anybody else experienced this?

Sally

October 30, 2004

Hi Sally,

I have had a similar reaction at various times. It was a build-up of energy.

When a person lets-go, discharges this holding-on of energy, his physical

body is affected quickly and powerfully. If you were to ask him in the

middle of this discharge how he is, he would say " just fine " if he were not

trying to continue to hold-on and identify with his reaction.

At other times the discharge is much, much more subtle. Yes?

What do you test about this?

Greg Morkovin

At 06:49 PM 10/30/2004 +0100, you wrote:

>Hi!

>I talked a friend through the immunics clearing over the 'phone, and he

>experienced severe tremors throughout his whole body.

>Has anyone else ever reported this?

>

>What happened:-

>He doesn't have easy computer access, so bought and gave him the CD, months

>ago ....but you know how busy people are, despite his real interest.

>Then last Tuesday, (he is off work following an angiogram, and waiting for a

>stent procedure) I said ..you've now got time to listen to the CD if you

>want... but he said.,.. why don't you talk me through it..... so I did!

>

>His 'signal' came quite quickly and was a swaying of his head from side to

>side.

>So he seemed to be connected.

>

>Then we removed all pathologies from all of his bodies, and he experienced

>quite a vigorous shaking of his upper body, lasting a few seconds (I could

>hear something was going on). He said it was OK, and I apologised for

>starting taking all out in 1 go!

>But he said that despite the shakings it was fine....

>I asked if he'd ever felt anything like that before and he said that he had

>during very deep meditation.... he said it felt cathartic, and was happy -

>wanting - to continue.

>So I said, we'd do the immune dysfunctions body by body.....

>which we did....

>but each time he seemed to have stronger tremors/convulsions, so that at one

>point his legs (he was reclining) were moving rapidly up and down, and his

>feet too.... he said that it was so fast that he couldn't actually replicate

>it himself.

>I kept checking if he was OK.... and he said yes.

>

>Afterwards, he felt very good, (calm clear place), but fatigued, but it had

>been a great cathartic release..... (and thanked me)...

>so I told him to nap for a while, which he did for 15-20 mins apparently.

>

>Anyway ... I just wanted to report this, and also to check if anyone else

>had ever experienced such a strong reaction?

>

>The next day he said that his legs felt like after exercising (build up of

>lactic acid??), so he sat in a hot bath, and then the following day he could

>barely walk.... and as he had a doctor's appointment, used painkillers to

>get himself there....

>where they said he'd actually torn his leg muscle!

>

>Anybody else experienced this?

>

>Sally

October 31, 2004

It took me 18 months to be able to connect at all, so I am still not

100% confident in what I test yet...

but I seemed to test that it did not harm him (yet he tore a leg

muscle!), and will not be as strong next time (if he's willing to try

some more!).

Thanks for your support that it was not unusual, but OK, because I

was concerned that I'd injured him, yet I know that ultimately

nothing can happen to cause self injury?

Sally

>

> >Hi!

> >I talked a friend through the immunics clearing over the 'phone,

and he

> >experienced severe tremors throughout his whole body.

> >Has anyone else ever reported this?

> >

> >What happened:-

> >He doesn't have easy computer access, so bought and gave him the

CD, months

> >ago ....but you know how busy people are, despite his real

interest.

> >Then last Tuesday, (he is off work following an angiogram, and

waiting for a

> >stent procedure) I said ..you've now got time to listen to the CD

if you

> >want... but he said.,.. why don't you talk me through it..... so I

did!

> >

> >His 'signal' came quite quickly and was a swaying of his head from

side to

> >side.

> >So he seemed to be connected.

> >

> >Then we removed all pathologies from all of his bodies, and he

experienced

> >quite a vigorous shaking of his upper body, lasting a few seconds

(I could

> >hear something was going on). He said it was OK, and I apologised

for

> >starting taking all out in 1 go!

> >But he said that despite the shakings it was fine....

> >I asked if he'd ever felt anything like that before and he said

that he had

> >during very deep meditation.... he said it felt cathartic, and was

happy -

> >wanting - to continue.

> >So I said, we'd do the immune dysfunctions body by body.....

> >which we did....

> >but each time he seemed to have stronger tremors/convulsions, so

that at one

> >point his legs (he was reclining) were moving rapidly up and down,

and his

> >feet too.... he said that it was so fast that he couldn't actually

replicate

> >it himself.

> >I kept checking if he was OK.... and he said yes.

> >

> >Afterwards, he felt very good, (calm clear place), but fatigued,

but it had

> >been a great cathartic release..... (and thanked me)...

> >so I told him to nap for a while, which he did for 15-20 mins

apparently.

> >

> >Anyway ... I just wanted to report this, and also to check if

anyone else

> >had ever experienced such a strong reaction?

> >

> >The next day he said that his legs felt like after exercising

(build up of

> >lactic acid??), so he sat in a hot bath, and then the following

day he could

> >barely walk.... and as he had a doctor's appointment, used

painkillers to

> >get himself there....

> >where they said he'd actually torn his leg muscle!

> >

> >Anybody else experienced this?

> >

> >Sally

>

October 31, 2004

Check electrolyte mineral levels and the balance between:

particularly

calcium - magnesium

and

potassium - sodium

Greg

At 02:49 PM 10/31/2004 +0000, you wrote:

>It took me 18 months to be able to connect at all, so I am still not

>100% confident in what I test yet...

>but I seemed to test that it did not harm him (yet he tore a leg

>muscle!), and will not be as strong next time (if he's willing to try

>some more!).

>Thanks for your support that it was not unusual, but OK, because I

>was concerned that I'd injured him, yet I know that ultimately

>nothing can happen to cause self injury?

>

>Sally

>

> >

> > >Hi!

> > >I talked a friend through the immunics clearing over the 'phone,

>and he

> > >experienced severe tremors throughout his whole body.

> > >Has anyone else ever reported this?

> > >

> > >What happened:-

> > >He doesn't have easy computer access, so bought and gave him the

>CD, months

> > >ago ....but you know how busy people are, despite his real

>interest.

> > >Then last Tuesday, (he is off work following an angiogram, and

>waiting for a

> > >stent procedure) I said ..you've now got time to listen to the CD

>if you

> > >want... but he said.,.. why don't you talk me through it..... so I

>did!

> > >

> > >His 'signal' came quite quickly and was a swaying of his head from

>side to

> > >side.

> > >So he seemed to be connected.

> > >

> > >Then we removed all pathologies from all of his bodies, and he

>experienced

> > >quite a vigorous shaking of his upper body, lasting a few seconds

>(I could

> > >hear something was going on). He said it was OK, and I apologised

>for

> > >starting taking all out in 1 go!

> > >But he said that despite the shakings it was fine....

> > >I asked if he'd ever felt anything like that before and he said

>that he had

> > >during very deep meditation.... he said it felt cathartic, and was

>happy -

> > >wanting - to continue.

> > >So I said, we'd do the immune dysfunctions body by body.....

> > >which we did....

> > >but each time he seemed to have stronger tremors/convulsions, so

>that at one

> > >point his legs (he was reclining) were moving rapidly up and down,

>and his

> > >feet too.... he said that it was so fast that he couldn't actually

>replicate

> > >it himself.

> > >I kept checking if he was OK.... and he said yes.

> > >

> > >Afterwards, he felt very good, (calm clear place), but fatigued,

>but it had

> > >been a great cathartic release..... (and thanked me)...

> > >so I told him to nap for a while, which he did for 15-20 mins

>apparently.

> > >

> > >Anyway ... I just wanted to report this, and also to check if

>anyone else

> > >had ever experienced such a strong reaction?

> > >

> > >The next day he said that his legs felt like after exercising

>(build up of

> > >lactic acid??), so he sat in a hot bath, and then the following

>day he could

> > >barely walk.... and as he had a doctor's appointment, used

>painkillers to

> > >get himself there....

> > >where they said he'd actually torn his leg muscle!

> > >

> > >Anybody else experienced this?

> > >

> > >Sally

> >