Guest guest Posted February 22, 2003 Report Share Posted February 22, 2003 It's not just 'smarts' that keep kids out of special ed. Full day inclusion may not be the answer or the best thing for your son. I have twins....6 years old. One is in full inclusion in K, the other is in a special class with inclusion about 75% of the time in K. My son in the partial inclusion is having the best year of his life with school, my daughter in full inclusion is having her worst. Both have been in school for 4 years with the same teachers, therapists and aids. Nothing new. The partial inclusion, gives a child (who may need it) a time to transition, wind down, self adjust, some emotional one on one, etc. My son is bright to, recent testing that all students went through in K placed him as being at the number one spot of his class out of 104 students....but he's still autistic. Donna W. Pittard Thank you, Donna, I'll keep that in mind. I just wanted to find out if my son is adjusting to meds or if there is another medical problem I need to pay attention to. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2003 Report Share Posted February 22, 2003 Just because the teacher recommends it, that doesn't mean that's his placement. No 1 person gets to choose placement, it's a team decision. And you are the most important part of that team. mind about his progress and at the IEP (next Thursday) she might recommend a special day class for him in the fall instead of full inclusion in regular kinder. I was devastated -- he's WAY too smart to be relegated to a special ed class. I reminded her that he is adjusting to medication, and she laid into me about how he is always adjusting to one medication or another - which is true - but he's always done so well once the adjustment period is over. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2003 Report Share Posted February 23, 2003 you need to discuss with your doctor whether he might be bipolar, looks below like the high is a high and the lethargy is a low; if so, zoloft a Bad Plan. Buy the book The Bipolar Child. A child can cycle very quickly. Re IEP, you need to use, if you haven't slaw website, especially articles on IEPs, on measureable goals, etc. Remember due process re placement changes. Also, you need a private ed consultant who knows the school system at your side at IEPs and there is probably a not-for-profit in your state that supplies attorneys for inclusion issues. Rose > Can some of you folks with kids on zoloft describe the experience you had when your child was first adjusting to it, or adjusting to higher doses of it. My son seemed to be doing pretty well (but not fantastic) on 12.5 mg. (1/2 pill) of zoloft, then we raised the dose about 10 days ago, and at first he was hyper in the afternoons and at night - up till 2 a.m. three nights in a row, and stimmy. Now he's not hyper - he's been lethargic, especially at school. He does better when he's at home or outside engaged in physical activity. His teacher had been telling me all along how great he's been doing, improving, right on track for regular kindergarten, etc., and today she just dropped a bomb, telling me how much worse he's been, that he was falling asleep in circle time, spacing out, taking too long to process, etc., and that she has changed her mind about his progress and at the IEP (next Thursday) she might recommend a special day class for him in the fall instead of full inclusion in regular kinder. I was devastated -- he's WAY too smart to be relegated to a special ed class. I reminded her that he is adjusting to medication, and she laid into me about how he is always adjusting to one medication or another - which is true - but he's always done so well once the adjustment period is over. > > For those of you with experience with Zoloft, how long before you knew whether it was doing the job (or wasn't). Did anyone have an experience similar to mine at the beginning but ultimately have a good outcome? Thanks in advance, > > Donna *********************************** Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the opinion of the Research Institute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2003 Report Share Posted February 23, 2003 Thank you for the suggestion, but I don't think so. My son has always been the most happy-go-lucky, sweet, even-tempered little guy, without major highs or lows in mood or behavior. My father and brother-in-law are psychiatrists (BIL works with kids) and my sister is a clinical psychologist; if my son was bipolar, they would have seen it. I'm now convinced that what's happening is a direct result of the dosage increase, because hyperness and lethargy have only been present since we started working with SSRI's. I'm also encouraged that it's indeed temporary, because today he seemed much more alert, but not hyper at all. Donna Re: zoloft you need to discuss with your doctor whether he might be bipolar, looks below like the high is a high and the lethargy is a low; if so, zoloft a Bad Plan. Buy the book The Bipolar Child. A child can cycle very quickly. Re IEP, you need to use, if you haven't slaw website, especially articles on IEPs, on measureable goals, etc. Remember due process re placement changes. Also, you need a private ed consultant who knows the school system at your side at IEPs and there is probably a not-for-profit in your state that supplies attorneys for inclusion issues. Rose > Can some of you folks with kids on zoloft describe the experience you had when your child was first adjusting to it, or adjusting to higher doses of it. My son seemed to be doing pretty well (but not fantastic) on 12.5 mg. (1/2 pill) of zoloft, then we raised the dose about 10 days ago, and at first he was hyper in the afternoons and at night - up till 2 a.m. three nights in a row, and stimmy. Now he's not hyper - he's been lethargic, especially at school. He does better when he's at home or outside engaged in physical activity. His teacher had been telling me all along how great he's been doing, improving, right on track for regular kindergarten, etc., and today she just dropped a bomb, telling me how much worse he's been, that he was falling asleep in circle time, spacing out, taking too long to process, etc., and that she has changed her mind about his progress and at the IEP (next Thursday) she might recommend a special day class for him in the fall instead of full inclusion in regular kinder. I was devastated -- he's WAY too smart to be relegated to a special ed class. I reminded her that he is adjusting to medication, and she laid into me about how he is always adjusting to one medication or another - which is true - but he's always done so well once the adjustment period is over. > > For those of you with experience with Zoloft, how long before you knew whether it was doing the job (or wasn't). Did anyone have an experience similar to mine at the beginning but ultimately have a good outcome? Thanks in advance, > > Donna *********************************** Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the opinion of the Research Institute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2003 Report Share Posted February 24, 2003 Donna, My son has been on 3/4 tablet of Zoloft for about 10 days too. He has been hyper, which seems to be decreasing a little though. He's sleeping well at night. His teacher also reports him to be very spacey and zoney at school, which he is not at home, and he also does much better at home than at school. I actually observed him at school and was shocked to see she was right. She thinks it's because at home he doesn't have the distractions of other kids when he's working and also because school fills him with anxiety, which he doesn't have at home. Where hoping we can remedy the school situation somehow, it's very disappointing. Kathy zoloft Can some of you folks with kids on zoloft describe the experience you had when your child was first adjusting to it, or adjusting to higher doses of it. My son seemed to be doing pretty well (but not fantastic) on 12.5 mg. (1/2 pill) of zoloft, then we raised the dose about 10 days ago, and at first he was hyper in the afternoons and at night - up till 2 a.m. three nights in a row, and stimmy. Now he's not hyper - he's been lethargic, especially at school. He does better when he's at home or outside engaged in physical activity. His teacher had been telling me all along how great he's been doing, improving, right on track for regular kindergarten, etc., and today she just dropped a bomb, telling me how much worse he's been, that he was falling asleep in circle time, spacing out, taking too long to process, etc., and that she has changed her mind about his progress and at the IEP (next Thursday) she might recommend a special day class for him in the fall instead of full inclusion in regular kinder. I was devastated -- he's WAY too smart to be relegated to a special ed class. I reminded her that he is adjusting to medication, and she laid into me about how he is always adjusting to one medication or another - which is true - but he's always done so well once the adjustment period is over. For those of you with experience with Zoloft, how long before you knew whether it was doing the job (or wasn't). Did anyone have an experience similar to mine at the beginning but ultimately have a good outcome? Thanks in advance, Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2003 Report Share Posted February 24, 2003 Hi Kathy, So glad to hear someone's having the same experience! I did some reading about zoloft over the weekend and was relieved to find that " nighttime sleeplessness " and " excessive daytime sleepiness " are on the list of common temporary side effects, so I feel a bit better. My son's now been on the Zoloft for 13 days, and he seems better. He's been sleeping well, not hyper, and did well when we took him to the Museum of Science and Industry on Saturday. Very alert and inquisitive, even with all those kids around. I'm encouraged. He'll be home from school in 1/2 hour; I'm hoping there will be a positive report from the teacher in his backpack. Good luck -- keep us posted on your little guy! Donna zoloft Can some of you folks with kids on zoloft describe the experience you had when your child was first adjusting to it, or adjusting to higher doses of it. My son seemed to be doing pretty well (but not fantastic) on 12.5 mg. (1/2 pill) of zoloft, then we raised the dose about 10 days ago, and at first he was hyper in the afternoons and at night - up till 2 a.m. three nights in a row, and stimmy. Now he's not hyper - he's been lethargic, especially at school. He does better when he's at home or outside engaged in physical activity. His teacher had been telling me all along how great he's been doing, improving, right on track for regular kindergarten, etc., and today she just dropped a bomb, telling me how much worse he's been, that he was falling asleep in circle time, spacing out, taking too long to process, etc., and that she has changed her mind about his progress and at the IEP (next Thursday) she might recommend a special day class for him in the fall instead of full! inclusion in regular kinder. I was devastated -- he's WAY too smart to be relegated to a special ed class. I reminded her that he is adjusting to medication, and she laid into me about how he is always adjusting to one medication or another - which is true - but he's always done so well once the adjustment period is over. For those of you with experience with Zoloft, how long before you knew whether it was doing the job (or wasn't). Did anyone have an experience similar to mine at the beginning but ultimately have a good outcome? Thanks in advance, Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2003 Report Share Posted February 25, 2003 Hi Kathy, Although we are not on the protocol yet, we had this situation with our son being spacey at school last year, and not so much at home. As time goes by I'm really thinking his diagnosed autism is CAPD. His current teacher implemented " The Listening Program " for him (headphones twice a day) and so many behaviors are now gone or diminished, including that spaceyness. Looking back at last year, I think he had a hearing overload, which caused tremendous stress, and he withdrew. In addition, he was in a portable classroom, and the acoustics there are probably much different than in a regular schoolroom, which he is in now. Perhaps it would help your son if the teacher makes sure he can hear well, preferential seating, direct questions to him at a slower pace, and possibly give you materials to review with him before they appear in class. If he feels competent his anxiety will lessen. Good luck, Re: zoloft Donna, My son has been on 3/4 tablet of Zoloft for about 10 days too. He has been hyper, which seems to be decreasing a little though. He's sleeping well at night. His teacher also reports him to be very spacey and zoney at school, which he is not at home, and he also does much better at home than at school. I actually observed him at school and was shocked to see she was right. She thinks it's because at home he doesn't have the distractions of other kids when he's working and also because school fills him with anxiety, which he doesn't have at home. Where hoping we can remedy the school situation somehow, it's very disappointing. Kathy Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the opinion of the Research Institute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Has anyone had experience with Zoloft? Its on the list of drugs that may be harmful to those with CMT but it says it can be used with caution. What does that mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 my neurologis had me on zoloft. it helped with the depression that i occasionaly had but the main reason he put me on it was it enhanced the effectiveness of the neurontin i am on. I really can tell now that I had to get off it due to the cost increase. Large doses of zoloft is not recommended but 50 mgs a day is considered safe according to my neurologist. Cathleen in Arkansas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Rhonda, Zoloft used to be on the use with caution list. About 5 or so years ago a young farmer with CMT died after taking Zoloft. He was fine in better health then most with CMT. He actually died of blood clots in his lungs. No one was sure if it was the Zoloft but was the only thing that was diffrent. So it went on the caution list. He had only been taking it for a short time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 Barb, I have been taking Zoloft for depression for about 2 years. It has truly lifted the weight off my shoulders. I also am Diabetic.Just something else to deal with... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 , I take Zoloft too, but its not helping me, like it did, when i first started taking it........ I'm taking 150mgs in the morning, and then 50mgs at night, but still no change, so i do need to tell my family doctor about that. I have 5 doctors altogether, one for diabetes, another for Neuropathy (which is a Neuroligist), a Podiatrist, and a pain specialist, and of course a family doctor. Its hard to keep up with them all sometimes! Does anyone know anything about RSD? The reason i asked is, they think that i might have RSD, with the Neuropathy now, they are not sure, but they are leaning that way. They keep me upset & confused! Thanks for always listening to me, & the kind advice that you have for me................. Have a great pain-free day! Lots of hugs, Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 Barb, probably your antidepressent needs to be changed. I know with Zoloft they can go no higher than 200mg. I take 150 seems to work very well for me. Maybe I'm out of the loop, I don't have any idea what RDS is. Could someone please tell me. I know how you eel with all the doctors. I have been going to my podiatrist for about 8 months every 2 weeks for a callous that ulcerated on the bottom of my foot. It is healing, but slowly.He said the only way it would heal faster is to be off my feet completely. Now how in the world am I going to do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2007 Report Share Posted April 29, 2007 You likely will suffer the worst effects, if you stop taking the drug suddenly. If you ever stop taking it, consult your doc. You need to be weaned off slowly. I took the drug once and did suffer from sexual side effects. I am now on Effexor and prefer it. It has fewer side effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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