Re: lots of flush info and site listings

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Hi, some sources of info for the flush include

http://www.sensiblehealth.com/ (excellent site with

loads of info)

(Info from Ken)

My typical flush consists of 3-5 days of organic apple

juice (ideally

1/2 gallon a day. The day of the flush I drink my 1/2

gallon or more

in the morning. By then things are already flushing!

A very light lunch at 12.00

Disodium phosphate at 2:00 and agin at 4:00 p.m.

Fasting until 11:00 p.m. Then 1/2 to 3/4 cup organic

extra virgin

olive oil with a little lemon juice in the mix.

Straight to bed, knee up on the right side for 20-30

minutes.

Usually I go sound asleep until 6:00 a.m. All that

comes out for the

next 3-6 hours are clumps and stones... no digested

food!

Why apple juice? ... I understand that the apple

juice has a

number of functions:

1) Acts to stimulate the liver to spill bile! Yes,

you don't go

running to the restroom constantly beacuse of the

apple juice

alone... Chemicals (god ones) in the juice cause the

liver to spill

bile and acts as a grea laxative to get everything

moving.

Most flushers feel a huge discomfort in the upper

abdomin area when

we drink a lot of apple juice. The first day I can

feel my bile

flowing out to the juice and it gives me a sick,

uncomfortable

feeling for 15-20 minutes until I run to the restroom

and purge.

Why organic aplle juice? Can you even imagine the

concentration of

pesticides and chemicals you will get if it is not

organic!?

2) Getting everything moving and cleaned out is

essential for the

flush to be effective. If the liver and gallbladder

sense that

things are backed up... they are smart enough not to

send all they

got as it will only cause further problems down the

line.

3) The olive oil doesn't lubricate anything, it is as

you surmise,

the fat necessary for the gallbladder to erupt. Why

not saturated

fat????? Because some of us would die!!!! of a heart

attack!!!

Saturated fats not only would get the gallbladder to

erupt, but also

would immediately go to the heart by sludging up the

blood. Many

heart attacks come after fatty meals from sludgy

blood... why do you

think the say take an aspirin a day to keep the blood

thinned?

4) The liver and gb sense that all is clear and it is

ok to give

everything they got to digest the olive oil. Dale's

colonic seems to

provide the same effect. It is quite possible that

the olive oil

gets up into the common duct and helps to lubricate it

while the

stones pass.

5) Disodium phosphate or epsom salts clean out the

body completely

prior to the flush... perhaps the also help to expand

the ducts.

Friends of mine clain to have " grape sized " stones

that come out.

Doctor's seem to believe that the largest stone that

can pass is 1

inch in diameter. That is still huge!

I hope this is helpful... ken a.

(Also see below for a whole list of cleanses:)

http://home.online.no/~dusan/index.html

Hope this helps.

Matty

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> I sent a post to this group, because I've been doing

> alot of research

> on my condition and symptoms, and I need help!!

>

> Someone help me, someone who was successful with

> their first

> cleanse!! I need direction on how to make the

> cleanse and what to do

> afterwards, the site that I went to didn't describe

> in great detail.

>

> someone please help and I'll elaborate on what's

> wrong with me, I

> just didn't receive any responses at all to my first

> post and was

> wondering if it was actually received by anyone.

>

>

> Thanks...

>

>

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Wow....that is your typical flush? I have questions though, and here

are my symptoms. I was born jaundice, and I was put under lights for

a couple of days after birth. About 4 years ago, I went to a

specialist to have my liver checked out because my eyes still have a

tint of yellow and it gets worse under certain conditions. He tested

my blood and found that my bilirubin level fluctuates according to

such factors as lack of sleep, stress, and lack of water. He also did

an ultrasound and found gallstones in my gallbladder. He proceeded to

tell me that they don't normally do anything for gallstones unless

they start causing problems. But I'm tired of my eyes and sometimes

my skin having this yellowish color and would like to clean out my

liver and also get rid of my gallstones.

According to Dr. 's recipe, it asks for 1/2 cup of olive oil, 3

lemons, 4 tablespoons epsom salts and 3 cups of water. Am I supposed

to blend all of this and drink it all at once? I would think that it

would be disgusting and would completely make you vomit. Please tell

me how to get myself going to get my first cleanse out of the way.

Thank you so much...

> > I sent a post to this group, because I've been doing

> > alot of research

> > on my condition and symptoms, and I need help!!

> >

> > Someone help me, someone who was successful with

> > their first

> > cleanse!! I need direction on how to make the

> > cleanse and what to do

> > afterwards, the site that I went to didn't describe

> > in great detail.

> >

> > someone please help and I'll elaborate on what's

> > wrong with me, I

> > just didn't receive any responses at all to my first

> > post and was

> > wondering if it was actually received by anyone.

> >

> >

> > Thanks...

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

My flushes are those found in Dr. Hulda 's book

" Cure for all Diseases " . The flushes listed are those

I cut and pasted from previous emails from people who

have done them. I have put my comments in ( ). If

you go to the sites I listed in the email you will

have nearly all of your questions answered. Best to

you,

Matty

--- buffalosauce@... wrote:

> Wow....that is your typical flush? I have questions

> though, and here

> are my symptoms. I was born jaundice, and I was put

> under lights for

> a couple of days after birth. About 4 years ago, I

> went to a

> specialist to have my liver checked out because my

> eyes still have a

> tint of yellow and it gets worse under certain

> conditions. He tested

> my blood and found that my bilirubin level

> fluctuates according to

> such factors as lack of sleep, stress, and lack of

> water. He also did

> an ultrasound and found gallstones in my

> gallbladder. He proceeded to

> tell me that they don't normally do anything for

> gallstones unless

> they start causing problems. But I'm tired of my

> eyes and sometimes

> my skin having this yellowish color and would like

> to clean out my

> liver and also get rid of my gallstones.

>

> According to Dr. 's recipe, it asks for 1/2 cup

> of olive oil, 3

> lemons, 4 tablespoons epsom salts and 3 cups of

> water. Am I supposed

> to blend all of this and drink it all at once? I

> would think that it

> would be disgusting and would completely make you

> vomit. Please tell

> me how to get myself going to get my first cleanse

> out of the way.

>

> Thank you so much...

>

>

>

>

> > > I sent a post to this group, because I've been

> doing

> > > alot of research

> > > on my condition and symptoms, and I need help!!

> > >

> > > Someone help me, someone who was successful with

> > > their first

> > > cleanse!! I need direction on how to make the

> > > cleanse and what to do

> > > afterwards, the site that I went to didn't

> describe

> > > in great detail.

> > >

> > > someone please help and I'll elaborate on what's

> > > wrong with me, I

> > > just didn't receive any responses at all to my

> first

> > > post and was

> > > wondering if it was actually received by anyone.

> > >

> > >

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi !

No the ingredients you list are taken at different times... Apple

juice for 3-5 days, epsom salts in two mixtures with water 2-5 hours

before the olive oil and again in the morning. The 1/2-3/4 cup olive

oil right before you go to bed can be mixed with lemon or grapefruit

juice for better taste.

If gallstones were found, it is possible that you were born with some

of them. Newborns are known to have gallstones. I believe that

jaundice comes from a blockage of the common duct.

Go for the flush! You will see if it clears up any of your symptoms

or makes them better. May I suggest... that you could also have a

blockage that is a result of your formation in the womb. Perhaps one

of your ducts is not fully open, etc. You would think that your

doctors could test you for some of this.

The flush can't hurt... and could help, especially with the dectected

stones. I have doubts about passing the calcified stones, but 80% of

stones are cholestorol.

Good Luck,

ken

[Guest guest]

OK, I think I have this straight.

1) Drink organic apple juice for 3-5 days before the flush. (I can

still eat though right??)

2)2 different cups of epsom salts with water....taking one mixture 2-

5 hours before I take the olive oil at night, and then another when I

wake up the following morning. That's 2 tablespoons of epsom salts

per mixture. And I can only mix the epsom salts with water? I would

think that the epsom salts would be the thing that would make a

person gag! Has everyone had a hard time taking down the epsom salts?

3)I take the olive oil right before I go to bed. And this is a 1/2

cup of olive oil that I can mix with grapefruit/lemon juice?

I appreciate so much all of this help!!

I can't wait to get started and see if I have any results.

--

> Hi !

>

> No the ingredients you list are taken at different times... Apple

> juice for 3-5 days, epsom salts in two mixtures with water 2-5

hours

> before the olive oil and again in the morning. The 1/2-3/4 cup

olive

> oil right before you go to bed can be mixed with lemon or

grapefruit

> juice for better taste.

>

> If gallstones were found, it is possible that you were born with

some

> of them. Newborns are known to have gallstones. I believe that

> jaundice comes from a blockage of the common duct.

>

> Go for the flush! You will see if it clears up any of your

symptoms

> or makes them better. May I suggest... that you could also have a

> blockage that is a result of your formation in the womb. Perhaps

one

> of your ducts is not fully open, etc. You would think that your

> doctors could test you for some of this.

>

> The flush can't hurt... and could help, especially with the

dectected

> stones. I have doubts about passing the calcified stones, but 80%

of

> stones are cholestorol.

>

> Good Luck,

>

> ken

[Guest guest]

;

I usually will drink fresh squeezed apple juice as part of a fast before doing a flush. I usually will do it 2 to 3 days before the flush, drinking around a half gallon a day. Basically drinking when I tend to get hungry at first and then to quench my thirst. However you can eat normally too and have just as good of a result. Just don't eat anything after 14:00 on the day of your flush, and try not to eat any saturated or hydrogenated fat foods many days before the flush.

Regarding the laxative mixture of Epsom salts; That is 4 tablespoons or 12 teaspoons in 24 ounces of water. Then at 18:00 six ounces of it is drank, another 2 hours later another 6 ounces is drank. At 22:00 the concoction of oil and grapefruit or lemon or both is drank and you go to bed. If you feel you're going to need to use the rest room a couple of times more then wait before taking the concoction. The amount that I tend to use is eight ounces of oil and about the same amount of fresh squeezed grapefruit juice, but then I'm 230 lbs and tall. The reason for fresh squeezed juice is because it will tend to mix better with the oil to allow you to down it with a little less thickness and more flavor. If you can find a light cold pressed virgin olive oil it tends to be a bit easier for many to get down. I tend towards using the stuff with real gusto, and it ain't too cheap either at about $0.50 per ounce even though there are others even more expensive.

If you consider the taste of the Epsom salts as mineral water you'll probably find it really doesn't taste all that bad. In fact I find that the fasting helps me to deal with the downing of the Olive oil too. It's amazing just how good something can taste when you're fairly starved. There is also one other benefit I keep noticing with the fast; I get to see the mini pot move in a little closer. Now if I could only keep with the sit-ups and other exercise it probably would get a lot closer.

Best wishes on your journey

Dale

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From: buffalosauce@...

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Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 6:45 AM

Subject: Re: lots of flush info and site listings

OK, I think I have this straight. 1) Drink organic apple juice for 3-5 days before the flush. (I can still eat though right??)2)2 different cups of epsom salts with water....taking one mixture 2-5 hours before I take the olive oil at night, and then another when I wake up the following morning. That's 2 tablespoons of epsom salts per mixture. And I can only mix the epsom salts with water? I would think that the epsom salts would be the thing that would make a person gag! Has everyone had a hard time taking down the epsom salts?3)I take the olive oil right before I go to bed. And this is a 1/2 cup of olive oil that I can mix with grapefruit/lemon juice?I appreciate so much all of this help!! I can't wait to get started and see if I have any results.--> Hi !> > No the ingredients you list are taken at different times... Apple > juice for 3-5 days, epsom salts in two mixtures with water 2-5 hours > before the olive oil and again in the morning. The 1/2-3/4 cup olive > oil right before you go to bed can be mixed with lemon or grapefruit > juice for better taste.> > If gallstones were found, it is possible that you were born with some > of them. Newborns are known to have gallstones. I believe that > jaundice comes from a blockage of the common duct. > > Go for the flush! You will see if it clears up any of your symptoms > or makes them better. May I suggest... that you could also have a > blockage that is a result of your formation in the womb. Perhaps one > of your ducts is not fully open, etc. You would think that your > doctors could test you for some of this.> > The flush can't hurt... and could help, especially with the dectected > stones. I have doubts about passing the calcified stones, but 80% of > stones are cholestorol.> > Good Luck,> > kenYou are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the gallstonesegroups. To unsubscribe: Mailto:gallstones-unsubscribeegroupsTo subscribe again: Mailto:gallstones-subscribeegroupsTo change status to digest: Mailto:gallstones-digestegroupsTo change status to normal: Mailto;gallstones-normalegroupsBy joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself!List Archives: http:///messages/gallstonesWeb Sites: http://home.online.no/~dusan/gallstones/Have a nice day !

[Guest guest]

Dale:

Wow. Thanks alot...that helps me enormously. I'm going to start with

my pre-flush routine starting on this Sunday coming up.

I'm only 22 years old, and I definitely don't want this causing more

complications as I get older.

I appreciate all info...

--

--- In gallstonesegroups, " Dale " <Da_@e...>

wrote:

> ;

>

> I usually will drink fresh squeezed apple juice as part of a fast

before doing a flush. I usually will do it 2 to 3 days before the

flush, drinking around a half gallon a day. Basically drinking when I

tend to get hungry at first and then to quench my thirst. However you

can eat normally too and have just as good of a result. Just don't

eat anything after 14:00 on the day of your flush, and try not to eat

any saturated or hydrogenated fat foods many days before the flush.

>

> Regarding the laxative mixture of Epsom salts; That is 4

tablespoons or 12 teaspoons in 24 ounces of water. Then at 18:00 six

ounces of it is drank, another 2 hours later another 6 ounces is

drank. At 22:00 the concoction of oil and grapefruit or lemon or both

is drank and you go to bed. If you feel you're going to need to use

the rest room a couple of times more then wait before taking the

concoction. The amount that I tend to use is eight ounces of oil and

about the same amount of fresh squeezed grapefruit juice, but then

I'm 230 lbs and tall. The reason for fresh squeezed juice is because

it will tend to mix better with the oil to allow you to down it with

a little less thickness and more flavor. If you can find a light cold

pressed virgin olive oil it tends to be a bit easier for many to get

down. I tend towards using the stuff with real gusto, and it ain't

too cheap either at about $0.50 per ounce even though there are

others even more expensive.

>

> If you consider the taste of the Epsom salts as mineral water

you'll probably find it really doesn't taste all that bad. In fact I

find that the fasting helps me to deal with the downing of the Olive

oil too. It's amazing just how good something can taste when you're

fairly starved. There is also one other benefit I keep noticing with

the fast; I get to see the mini pot move in a little closer. Now if I

could only keep with the sit-ups and other exercise it probably would

get a lot closer.

>

> Best wishes on your journey

>

> Dale

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry but I just realized I forgot to tell you what to do with the rest of the Epsom salts mix; In the morning, upon wakening take another 6 ounces and then two hours later the last 6 ounces. If you started at around 06:00 then things should be happening around 09:00 or earlier. .................It really is an amazing process.

Realize that the brown floating stuff may very well be cholesterol chaff. It tends to have a chunking feeling if it's move around to get to the little stones that may be floating amongst it. You'll be quite expert in a very short period of time, but you'll see with doing more that each time is usually different from the last.

DaleDa_@...

----- Original Message -----

From: buffalosauce@...

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Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 9:34 AM

Subject: Re: lots of flush info and site listings

Dale:Wow. Thanks alot...that helps me enormously. I'm going to start with my pre-flush routine starting on this Sunday coming up.I'm only 22 years old, and I definitely don't want this causing more complications as I get older.I appreciate all info...--> ;> > I usually will drink fresh squeezed apple juice as part of a fast before doing a flush. I usually will do it 2 to 3 days before the flush, drinking around a half gallon a day. Basically drinking when I tend to get hungry at first and then to quench my thirst. However you can eat normally too and have just as good of a result. Just don't eat anything after 14:00 on the day of your flush, and try not to eat any saturated or hydrogenated fat foods many days before the flush. > > Regarding the laxative mixture of Epsom salts; That is 4 tablespoons or 12 teaspoons in 24 ounces of water. Then at 18:00 six ounces of it is drank, another 2 hours later another 6 ounces is drank. At 22:00 the concoction of oil and grapefruit or lemon or both is drank and you go to bed. If you feel you're going to need to use the rest room a couple of times more then wait before taking the concoction. The amount that I tend to use is eight ounces of oil and about the same amount of fresh squeezed grapefruit juice, but then I'm 230 lbs and tall. The reason for fresh squeezed juice is because it will tend to mix better with the oil to allow you to down it with a little less thickness and more flavor. If you can find a light cold pressed virgin olive oil it tends to be a bit easier for many to get down. I tend towards using the stuff with real gusto, and it ain't too cheap either at about $0.50 per ounce even though there are others even more expensive.> > If you consider the taste of the Epsom salts as mineral water you'll probably find it really doesn't taste all that bad. In fact I find that the fasting helps me to deal with the downing of the Olive oil too. It's amazing just how good something can taste when you're fairly starved. There is also one other benefit I keep noticing with the fast; I get to see the mini pot move in a little closer. Now if I could only keep with the sit-ups and other exercise it probably would get a lot closer.> > Best wishes on your journey> > Dale> You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the gallstonesegroups. To unsubscribe: Mailto:gallstones-unsubscribeegroupsTo subscribe again: Mailto:gallstones-subscribeegroupsTo change status to digest: Mailto:gallstones-digestegroupsTo change status to normal: Mailto;gallstones-normalegroupsBy joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself!List Archives: http:///messages/gallstonesWeb Sites: http://home.online.no/~dusan/gallstones/Have a nice day !