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I get so tired of these stories. EVERY single doc I've been to has a

variation of these stories. My son's current ped mentioned meningitis,

Measles,

Chicken Pox.....gah.

Here's the thing they DON'T tell you....how many are vaxed and still get it!

Or, more frighteningly, how many are vaxed, still get it, and get

complications from improper treatment of it. This is NOT to say that unvaxed

don't

get it and that it can't be serious.....all illnesses must be treated with

respect and treated improperly, complications can occur. However, docs using

the

below wording is very misleading. These 2 peds show the VERY ignorant and

scary thinking that once vaxed, you are immune. People can STILL get these

so-called VPDs. If I had the presence of mind to think quickly in the below

situation, I would have asked the ages of the patients...if children or babies,

were they exclusively breastfed, formula fed, or a mixture of both? What

were their diets like (children to adults)? How were they exposed to it, as

the majority of people are fully vaxed (of course, they don't offer life-long

immunity, hence the lovely boosters!) And, very important, what was the

treatment given that made the illness escalate? ALL of these have a role in

how

the body handles Pertussis, should it come in contact with it. I guarantee

you no doc will be able to answer many, if any, of those questions.

Should you choose to vax for Pertussis, or anything else, it's very

important that you learn about the diseases and their proper treatments.....and

they

really aren't that hard to learn I promise! Modern society no longer knows

how to do these properly, as we don't see these diseases as often for the most

part, so old wisdom is discarded or forgotten. We also live in such a

fast-paced society, where proper time for rest while ill is almost never

taken....few seem to think that matters sadly.

Lori

Tucson, AZ

In a message dated 12/9/2006 8:59:44 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,

OhioVaxInfo@... writes:

<<I have to tell you the 2 Pediatricians I've seen have told me stories

that

several of their patients have died because they were not vaccinated

against the illnesses they ended up gettig. Is it true? I hvae no

clue. Maybe it was a scare tactic, maybe it truly happened.>>

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<<For your response. I totalkly respect that. My only fear is once

again the Whooping Cough issue and unfortunately I am currently out

of work and have no extra $$ to invest in a homeopath.>>

I understand your fear, really I do. I also understand the money part.

Sheri N. the list owner here is my homeopath, she also teaches online

beginning homeopathy classes so that you'd be able to treat the small

stuff yourself. Those aren't expensive. I don't have a link to her

website handy, anyone have it?

<<I have to tell you the 2 Pediatricians I've seen have told me stories

that

several of their patients have died because they were not vaccinated

against the illnesses they ended up gettig. Is it true? I hvae no

clue. Maybe it was a scare tactic, maybe it truly happened.>>

I've heard similar stories, they all start out with " I had a patient

once who. " They will swear they saw it with their own eyes. :-( I

think there is a class that Pediatricians have to take where they

discuss which horror stories to tell parents, etc. I've gotten similar

stories from vets about animal vaccines! Sheesh! I don't know if they

are true or not, but I do know that they (especially the ones that have

told you they will not treat your child unless you vax) will use any

scare tactic possible to get you to follow the rest of the sheep. :-(

There are risks to not vaccinating your child, but there are bigger

risks to vaccinate them. Look up the diseases on WebMD and see what the

typical treatments are. For all the dr's scare mongoring, WebMD states

that most of those diseases can be treated at home and do not require a

hospital stay! I have copies of all of the package inserts for the

vaccines, I will send them to you offlist if you want to read them for

yourself.

<<I am pretty much alone here in this quest to find out the truth about

vaccinations and whether to vaccinate my child this time so it's VERY

difficult.>>

You are not alone, we are all here to help you. However, these are

decisions that you have to make for the safety and health of your child.

<<I hope I'll hear from more parents here so that I can be

encouraged to take a stand on what is the right thing for me to do

and to learn all about the vaccines and their hidden dangers. >>

I'm sure you will, I think everyone's a little busy with the upcoming

holidays. :-)

<<Thanks, !>>

You are very welcome. Let me know if there is anything else that I can

do for you.

)0(~~~)0(~~~)0(

Mom to Brittany, born 08/31/93, dx'd IDDM 05/28/01; , born

06/28/97; Shayna, born 06/01/00; and Baby #4 due 05/07.

Vaccine free since 1999.

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Dear All, Today being the last day of discussion I would like to thank all the members specially Dr .Mahadevbhai, Dr Rakesh, Dr ,Dr Anupama, Dr Chetna, Dr Trupti, Bindu, Dr Smita for their active valuable contribution. It was a great learning experience for me as well. I also thank Dr Vijay for giving me this oppourtunity. I will summarize the discussion as soon as I am back to A'bad. thank you all with best wishes, Mira Desai

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