>>>RENOUNCE THE RENUNCIATION ITSELF>>>

[Guest guest]

RENOUNCE the renunciation itself

Go wherever you like. Go to Kashmir, to Darjeeling, to Vienna or the Alps, you will not find any real rest.

The charming scenery may soothe the retina for a few seconds but attraction, aversion, jealousy, passion and greed are everywhere. You will find the same earth, the same sky, the same air, the same water everywhere. You carry the same mind with you everywhere. Imagination and change of place have deceived many people. Be contented. Live wherever you like ‑ but discipline the mind and the‑senses, ceaselessly. Meditate on the inner self ceaselessly. Here you will find everlasting peace. The mind will stop deceiving you now.

If you do not have sustained vairagya (dispassion), you will find no improvement or progress in spirituality. Vows, austerities, energy and meditation will leak out like water from a cracked pot.

You have spent eight hours in sleep and the rest in idle gossiping, telling lies, deceiving others, in selfish activities and in gaining money. How do you expect any spiritual good?

How do you expect immortality if you do not spend even half an hour in the service of God, in singing His name and in divine contemplation? Is there pain or is there pleasure in this world? If there is pleasure, why do young educated men retire to the forests? If there is pain, why do young men run after wealth, position and women?

Ah! Mysterious is maya (illusion). Mysterious is moha (delusion)! Try to understand the riddle of life and the riddle of the universe. Acquire viveka (wisdom). Have satsang (holy company). Enquire into the nature of the atman.

Study the Yoga Vasishta and the Upanishads. Then you will have a comprehensive understanding of the problems of life. There is not one iota of happiness in this world.

Renounce this world. Renounce the desire for moksa (liberation). Renounce renunciation itself. Then you will become that.

[Guest guest]

I don't agree with this.

Environment can be quite a change. While there are

some that can attain a happiness inside while living

in some crowded city in the " ghetto " or some poor tiny

village somewhere, for the most part, living in an

area where a person does not have to worry about the

basics of their life and has beauty, plus even just a

few people around where it is a safer environment in

general makes a huge difference.

Also, since humans have such a variety of basic

beliefs from place to place, the below is just too

general. It doesn't apply to " everyone " . It

certainly didn't apply to me.

I agree that removing a lot of past stuff and learning

to love ones own abilities helps no matter where you

are. But I also believe that environment makes a big

difference.

Lyn

--- Ganesh *** <Kriyababa1@...> wrote:

> *RENOUNCE** the renunciation itself*

> Go wherever you like. Go to Kashmir, to Darjeeling,

> to Vienna or the Alps,

> you will not find any real rest.

>

> The charming scenery may soothe the retina for a few

> seconds but attraction,

> aversion, jealousy, passion and greed are

> everywhere. You will find the same

> earth, the same sky, the same air, the same water

> everywhere. You carry the

> same mind with you everywhere. Imagination and

> change of place have deceived

> many people. Be contented. Live wherever you like

> ‑ but discipline the mind

> and the‑senses, ceaselessly. Meditate on the inner

> self ceaselessly. Here

> you will find everlasting peace. The mind will stop

> deceiving you now.

>

> If you do not have sustained vairagya (dispassion),

> you will find no

> improvement or progress in spirituality. Vows,

> austerities, energy and

> meditation will leak out like water from a cracked

> pot.

>

> You have spent eight hours in sleep and the rest in

> idle gossiping, telling

> lies, deceiving others, in selfish activities and in

> gaining money. How do

> you expect any spiritual good?

>

> How do you expect immortality if you do not spend

> even half an hour in the

> service of God, in singing His name and in divine

> contemplation? Is there

> pain or is there pleasure in this world? If there is

> pleasure, why do young

> educated men retire to the forests? If there is

> pain, why do young men run

> after wealth, position and women?

>

> Ah! Mysterious is maya (illusion). Mysterious is

> moha (delusion)! Try to

> understand the riddle of life and the riddle of the

> universe. Acquire viveka

> (wisdom). Have satsang (holy company). Enquire into

> the nature of the atman.

>

> Study the Yoga Vasishta and the Upanishads. Then you

> will have a

> comprehensive understanding of the problems of life.

> There is not one iota

> of happiness in this world.

>

> Renounce this world. Renounce the desire for moksa

> (liberation). Renounce

> renunciation itself. Then you will become that.

>

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