Thank you so much

[Guest guest]

i have a question about the smells

> (doc, you are so funny!). are they that bad? bathroom visits dont

> smell great in the first place but its worse?? omg- lol

================================

Yes the smell can be (is) WORSE...like burn the nose hair right out

of your nose kinda worse...to me what is even worse than the smell

is it just lingers and lingers....you might as well set an extra

plate and give the odor a name because it is staying for dinner.

About 3 months post-op I farted, my daught-in-law walked up behind

me then ran from the room retching....literally. Bless her heart she

kept apologizing to me because she didn't want me to feel bad.

The good thing...time does help. It still lingers too long but the

stink is in a more normal range.

JO

[Guest guest]

About thyroid. My new nurse coordinator (who has a daughter with DS) said that we could wait for thyroid tests. Connor is 10 mos. old...does this sound right to you? Thanks in advance.

Eagle Acres RanchCraig Weaver and 308 Twin Lakes Rd.Winthrop, WA 98862(509) 996-7807

thank you so much

thank you so much about suggestion on thyroid result... I am learning all about it. I am checking them out everything else. i will definitely have casey tested six months later... at least i can do for him. okay...i m learning about thyroid disease. give me time to absorb those information... kk

[Guest guest]

I heard that the first thyroid test should be at 12 months of age. Reece is 18 months old and just got his test done. Judy <Stahome@...> wrote: About thyroid. My new nurse coordinator (who has a daughter with DS) said that we could wait for thyroid tests. Connor is 10 mos. old...does this sound right to you? Thanks in advance. Eagle Acres RanchCraig Weaver and

308 Twin Lakes Rd.Winthrop, WA 98862(509) 996-7807 thank you so much thank you so much about suggestion on thyroid result... I am learning all about it. I am checking them out everything else. i will definitely have casey tested six months later... at least i can do for him. okay...i m learning about thyroid disease. give me time to absorb those information... kk

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[Guest guest]

Hmmm, I would suggest doing it now, I'm not sure what she wants to wait for!

It should be done at least every year, and if he has never had it done, now is a great time to start.

And anytime you see growth slowing or any of the DS 'symptoms' worsening, insist on retesting.

A full check should include TSH, Free T3, Free T4, thyroid antibodies, and thyroglobulin antibodies, as autoimmune thyroid problems are common in our kids.

Take care,Alice - violist & HSing mom to Alice (DS) born Thanksgiving Day 1995 :-)Hopewell Junction, NYhttp://users.bestweb.net/~castella

Re: thank you so much

About thyroid. My new nurse coordinator (who has a daughter with DS) said that we could wait for thyroid tests. Connor is 10 mos. old...does this sound right to you? Thanks in advance.

Eagle Acres RanchCraig Weaver and 308 Twin Lakes Rd.Winthrop, WA 98862(509) 996-7807

..

[Guest guest]

Thanks Alice,

Where are you a violist? My husband is a cellist, with the Seattle Symphony for 18 years, among others.

Eagle Acres RanchCraig Weaver and 308 Twin Lakes Rd.Winthrop, WA 98862(509) 996-7807

Re: thank you so much

About thyroid. My new nurse coordinator (who has a daughter with DS) said that we could wait for thyroid tests. Connor is 10 mos. old...does this sound right to you? Thanks in advance.

Eagle Acres RanchCraig Weaver and 308 Twin Lakes Rd.Winthrop, WA 98862(509) 996-7807

..

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I would not wait any longer. I believe the standards for DS health

care suggest that they get tested at birth and at 6 months. When

Will was 6 months, his doctor suggested Will wait until he was 12

months to be tested. We comprised, and had him tested at 8 months

and his thyroid was elevated! He is hypothyroid. He had no symptoms

really. The doctor was surprised. I say better safe than sorry!

> About thyroid. My new nurse coordinator (who has a

daughter with DS) said that we could wait for thyroid tests. Connor

is 10 mos. old...does this sound right to you? Thanks in advance.

>

> Eagle Acres Ranch

> Craig Weaver and

> 308 Twin Lakes Rd.

> Winthrop, WA 98862

> (509) 996-7807

> thank you so much

>

>

>

> thank you so much about suggestion on thyroid result... I am

learning all about it. I am checking them out everything else. i

will definitely have casey tested six months later... at least i can

do for him. okay...i m learning about thyroid disease. give me time

to absorb those information... kk

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls.

Great rates starting at 1¢/min.

>

[Guest guest]

According to “Health Care Guidelines

for Individuals with Down Syndrome”,(which is the standard that many

doctors go by) babies should have thyroid test at birth, at 6 months of age, 12

months of age, and yearly after that (unless, of course, there is evidence that

the person has some thyroid problem or needs to have thyroid med dosage

monitored, then the tests would be done more frequently)

http://www.denison.edu/collaborations/dsq/health99.html

Neonatal

(Birth to one month)

Lab and Consults: Chromosomal karyotype;

genetic counseling; hematocrit or complete blood count to investigate plethora

(polycythemia) or thrombo-cytopenia (possible myeloproliferative disorders); thyroid function test-check on results of

state-mandated screening; evaluation by a pediatric cardiologist

including echocardiogram (even in the absence of a murmur); reinforce the need

for subacute bacterial endocarditis (SBE) prophylaxis in susceptible children

with cardiac disease; refer for auditory brainstem response (ABR) or

otoacoustic emission (OAE) test to assess congenital sensorineural hearing at

birth or by 3 months of age. Refer for a pediatric ophthalmological evaluation

by six months of age for screening purposes. Refer immediately if there are any

indications of nystagmus, strabismus or poor vision. If feeding difficulties

are noted, consultation with feeding specialist (occupational therapist or

lactation nurse) is advised.

<snip>

Infancy

(1 - 12 months)

Lab and Consults: Evaluation by a

pediatric cardiologist including echocardiogram (if not done in newborn

period): remember to consider progressive pulmonary hypertension in DS patients

with a VSD or atrioventricular septal defect who are having little or no

symptoms of heart failure in this age group. Auditory brainstem response test

(ABR) by 3 months of age if not performed previously or if previous results are

suspicious. Pediatric ophthalmology evaluation by six months of age (earlier if

nystagmus, strabismus or indications of poor vision are present). Thyroid function test (TSH and T4), at 6 and

12 months of age. Evaluation by ENT specialist for recurrent

otitis media as needed.

<snip>

Childhood

(1 year to 12 years)

Lab and Consults: Echocardiogram by a

pediatric cardiologist if not done previously; Thyroid function test (TSH and T4) yearly;

behavioral auditory testing every 6 months until 3 years of age, then yearly.

Continue regular eye exams every year if normal, or more frequently as

indicated. Between 3 years and 5 years of age, lateral cervical spine x-rays

(neutral view, flexion and extension) to rule out atlanto-axial instability:

have the radiologist measure the atlanto-dens distance and the neural canal

width. X-rays should be performed at an institution accustomed to taking and reading

these x-rays. Initial dental evaluation at two years of age with follow-ups

every six months. At 2-3 years of age, screen for celiac disease with IgA

antiendomysium antibodies, as well as total IgA. Administer Pneumococcal

vaccine at 2 years of age.

KathyR(mom

to Danny, 8 yrs old and his 6 older sibs)

From:

Down Syndrome Treatment

[mailto:Down Syndrome Treatment ] On Behalf Of Judy

Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 12:48

PM

To:

Down Syndrome Treatment

Subject: Re:

thank you so much

I heard that the first thyroid test should be at 12 months of

age. Reece is 18 months old and just got his test done.

Judy

<Stahomehotmail> wrote:

About thyroid. My new nurse coordinator (who has a daughter with

DS) said that we could wait for thyroid tests. Connor is 10 mos.

old...does this sound right to you? Thanks in advance.

Eagle Acres Ranch

Craig Weaver and

308 Twin Lakes Rd.

Winthrop, WA

98862

(509) 996-7807

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

We received so much info. after Jack was born and had so many dr.

visits that I read through everything and put it away. After a

couple of months, I took out the med. info sheets and there was info

from the American Academy of Pediatrics...it concurs with Kathy's

info. Test for thyroid at birth, 6mos., 12mos. and yearly

thereafter. We had it done. It was a little late for the 6mos. and

we completely missed the one at birth. There are some blood tests,

too. They check for leukemia and should be done on about the same

time frame. We were able to do the blood work for both the same

day. We have a wonderful pediatrician and Jack was in the NICU

after birth for 11 days but, none of this work was done at birth. I

think with so many children to care for at the hospital and by peds.

that it was overlooked. (not intentionally) Anyway, it was a good

reminder for me that I have to stay on top of his healthcare and ask

for tests. I almost wish that I'd gone to med school--sure would

help now.

--Becky

>

> About thyroid. My new nurse coordinator (who has a daughter with

DS) said that we could wait for thyroid tests. Connor is 10 mos.

old...does this sound right to you? Thanks in advance.

>

> Eagle Acres Ranch

> Craig Weaver and

> 308 Twin Lakes Rd.

> Winthrop, WA 98862

> (509) 996-7807

> thank you so much

>

>

>

> thank you so much about suggestion on thyroid result... I

am learning all about it. I am checking them out everything else.

i will definitely have casey tested six months later... at least i

can do for him. okay...i m learning about thyroid disease. give me

time to absorb those information... kk

>

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

We received so much info. after Jack was born and had so many dr.

visits that I read through everything and put it away. After a

couple of months, I took out the med. info sheets and there was info

from the American Academy of Pediatrics...it concurs with Kathy's

info. Test for thyroid at birth, 6mos., 12mos. and yearly

thereafter. We had it done. It was a little late for the 6mos. and

we completely missed the one at birth. There are some blood tests,

too. They check for leukemia and should be done on about the same

time frame. We were able to do the blood work for both the same

day. We have a wonderful pediatrician and Jack was in the NICU

after birth for 11 days but, none of this work was done at birth. I

think with so many children to care for at the hospital and by peds.

that it was overlooked. (not intentionally) Anyway, it was a good

reminder for me that I have to stay on top of his healthcare and ask

for tests. I almost wish that I'd gone to med school--sure would

help now.

--Becky

>

> About thyroid. My new nurse coordinator (who has a daughter with

DS) said that we could wait for thyroid tests. Connor is 10 mos.

old...does this sound right to you? Thanks in advance.

>

> Eagle Acres Ranch

> Craig Weaver and

> 308 Twin Lakes Rd.

> Winthrop, WA 98862

> (509) 996-7807

> thank you so much

>

>

>

> thank you so much about suggestion on thyroid result... I

am learning all about it. I am checking them out everything else.

i will definitely have casey tested six months later... at least i

can do for him. okay...i m learning about thyroid disease. give me

time to absorb those information... kk

>

[Guest guest]

i too was told i couldn't work with " my kids " i had the same type job

i wasn't hurt on the job though i was helping a family member mow and fell

under the push mower distroying my rt foot then the RSDS set in from there

i had the MEDTRONIC SCS put in i know the useless feeling i sometimes sit

and cry from them if you'd like to talk feel free to email me even if

its only to vent about things i've found out it helps

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[Guest guest]

Mike,

If your sons haven't been in the habit of helping it is going to be a little

difficult to get them started helping you at their ages. But, there is no time

like the present for them to start. It will not only help you but help prepare

them for their futures.

Your sons are definitely old enough to clean bathrooms and at least help with

the laundry. If nothing else they are old enough to put their dishes in the

dishwasher and there is no reason for them to not make their own beds and clean

up any mess they may have created.

I know it is hard to stop once you have started but try pacing yourself,

stopping after half an hour and I am sure you will find that in the long run you

will be able to set a lot more done and not hurt near as much.

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

>

> Mike,

> If your sons haven't been in the habit of helping it is going to be

a little difficult to get them started helping you at their ages. But,

there is no time like the present for them to start. It will not only

help you but help prepare them for their futures.

>

> Your sons are definitely old enough to clean bathrooms and at least

help with the laundry. If nothing else they are old enough to put

their dishes in the dishwasher and there is no reason for them to not

make their own beds and clean up any mess they may have created.

>

> I know it is hard to stop once you have started but try pacing

yourself, stopping after half an hour and I am sure you will find that

in the long run you will be able to set a lot more done and not hurt

near as much.

>

> Dorothy

>

>

>

Dorothy thank you for you well need advice. my kids do have choirs as

of now. they must pick up after themselves load dishwaser my oldest

also is responible for moving the grass. they do there part my

problem with me. I feel usless not being able to do more. Here the

think. I had a Job working with Adults with Autism it was more then a

job for me I feel in love with what i did. thden to have a pateint

attack me and put me out of my job it is something I have gotten

over and it has been since 1999 so the guilt the holding on that

part what hurts the worst. my wife was a house mom she loved it. she

now has to go to a 9-5 job everyday. and come home and it tough. how

do I put the past behind me when every fiber of my being is crying go

back to work and do that job you loved. it was rewarding. it

lite a fire in my soul within 6 months of working there I got 3

accomdations. why? becuse i put my heart into it. Mike group owner

[Guest guest]

yea i know i still have to take vicodin along with my stimulator to keep my

pain level at around 4/5 my pain is in my entire rt leg and lower back

makes you just want to give up at time

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[Guest guest]

>

> i too was told i couldn't work with " my kids " i had the same

type job

> i wasn't hurt on the job though i was helping a family member mow

and fell

> under the push mower distroying my rt foot then the RSDS set in

from there

> i had the MEDTRONIC SCS put in i know the useless feeling i

sometimes sit

> and cry from them if you'd like to talk feel free to email me

even if

> its only to vent about things i've found out it helps

>

>

>

> **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's

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>

> lisa thank you for the offer. I was just blowing off steam. Living

24/7 in pain take it toll on you. mike

>

[Guest guest]

>

> The Adults that had mental illness

> where put in our program we found simply job task and houses they

lived

> in. I worked with the tougher guys that had known behavoir problems

It

> wasnt that I didnt know what to expect it was I was suppose have 1

> other employee at all times with me. my job was short staffed so I

was

> working with 3 grown adults that fight and I had no backup. thats

how

> i got hurt.

----------------

Mike, I know the situation you're talking about. My daughter has her

own apartment run by Easter Seals, she has 24 hour care and she loves

her apartment. She is a gentle soul, sweet and sensitive, but I know of

some of the other ones who have gotten violent in the past. This wasn't

your fault, it's part of the job and it sometimes happens that some one

gets hurt. It seems that they are always short of staff too, it takes

special " angels " to work with them the way they need to be worked with.

It takes understanding and lots of patience. So don't be hard on

yourself and learn to slow down. I used to be so independent, I wanted

to do it all myself but I had to get out of that when my back went out.

I still find it hard to accept help from friends but now I let my hubby

help when he can. And if he can't help then I let things alone until I

feel like I can do them. Relax and enjoy your life, it's more important

than dust and dirty dishes, lol!

I'm glad you're enjoying your vacation, it sounds great! Take care and

take it easy!

Ginny

>

[Guest guest]

HEY MIKE...

MY HEART GOES OUT TO YOU. I CAN REALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE COMING

FROM.

WHEN MY HUSBAND AND I MARRIED...WE WERE MARRIED FOR ONLY 2 MONTHS AND THEN

YET ANOTHER RSD HAPPENED. HE HAS BEEN MY ROCK. WE HAVE BEE MARRIED NOW FOR 7

YEARS...AND HE HAS BEEN BY MY SIDE AND MY BIGGEST AND LOUDEST

CHEERLEADER...BUT I CAN SEE HOW EXHAUSTED HE IS...HE HAS TO WORK 2 JOBS TO KEEP

THE HOUSE

RUNNING AND SO WE DON'T LOSE OUR HOME!

WE ARE BLESSED WITH OUR DAUGHTER, WHO IS 17 (FROM A PREVIOUS MARRIAGE...HE

WAS NOT A GOOD MAN....AND LEFT ME DUE TO MY RSD AND ALL MY SURGERIES STATING HE

WANTED A NORMAL LIFE...READ MY MIND ABOUT WHAT I WANT TO HAPPEN TO

HIM....LOL)..SHE DOES HELP OUT WITH THE HOUSEWORK IN A HUGE WAY...BUT I FEEL

GUILTY

ABOUT THAT TOO. SHE GOES TO SCHOOL, AND WORKS OUTSIDE THE HOME...

I THINK THAT WE, PAIN PATIENTS, WILL ALWAYS HAVE THE PANGS OF GUILT FOR WHAT

WE WANT TO DO TO HELP AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE FAMILY....BUT REALITY COMES AND

BITES US IN THE BUTT....AND WE REALLY JUST HAVE TO LEARN TO ACCEPT THEIR LOVE

AND HELP...EVNE THOUGH I IKNOW IT IS EASIER SAID THEN DONE...ESPECIALLY WHEN

THEY WORKED ALL DAY OUTSIDE THE HOME TO MAKE THE MONEY AND THEN HAVE TO COOK

AND CLEAN UP BECAUSE WE JUST CAN'T DO IT.

WHEN WE WERE ENGAGED AND FIRST MARRIED, EVEN THOUGH THE RSD IN OTHER PLACES

WAS MODERATE, I WAS ABLE TO WORK...A GOOD JOB..A REGISTERED MEDICAL

ASSISTANT..I LOVED IT...I HLEPD PEOPLE OF ALL AGES..BABIES, KIDS AND

ADULTS...DREW

BLOOD, GAVE ALL SHOTS, ALL TESTS AND PHONE WORK....NOW, EVEN THOUGH I AM ABLE

TO

COLLECT SOCIAL SECURITY....IT IS NO WHERE NEAR THE SAME WITH ALL THE BONUSES

ETC....

AS FOR WHAT DOROTHY SAID...SHE IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT...YOUR BOYS ARE OLD

ENOUGH TO HELP OUT...AND THAT MIGHT EVEN LET THEM FEEL LIKE THEY ARE HELPING MOM

AND DAD..AND FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT...OF COURSE AT FIRST THEY MAY NOT BE TOO HAPPY

ABOUT IT...LOL

I WISH YOU ALL THE PEACE OF MIND AND PAIN RELIEF THAT YOU CAN GET. YOU ARE

TRULY AN INSPIRATION TO OTHERS, MIKE.

GOD BLESS YOU.

HANG IN,

KATHY

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[Guest guest]

>

> yea i know i still have to take vicodin along with my stimulator to

keep my

> pain level at around 4/5 my pain is in my entire rt leg and lower

back

> makes you just want to give up at time

>

> I know what you mean, I'm still taking oral meds with my SCS, I get

around 50% relief but I'm so glad to have that much since the doctor

couldn't get both of the leads in place. I have only one lead attached

so I guess I can't complain too much but my trial gave me 99.9% relief

so it's a big let down. Don't give up, never give up, there is always

hope and tomorrow is another day.

>Wish I could help,

Ginny

[Guest guest]

Mike,

It is hard having to quit a job that you loved doing to being at home with or

without kids. & nbsp; I spent the last 22 1/2 years at a job that I loved as well

as trying to work with RSD. & nbsp; The RSD got so bad I had to retire at the age

of 41. & nbsp; That was just this year. & nbsp; I have learned to do what I can do

when I can do it. & nbsp; Like one of the old sayings the cobwebs, dishes, dusting

can wait until another day. I get aggravated everyday because I can't do what I

use to do. & nbsp; Sometimes it is hard to live with on a daily basis. & nbsp; I go

day by day everyday.

a

From: mike2boys & lt;mike2boys@... & gt;

Subject: Re: Thank you so much

Stimulator

Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 10:45 PM

& gt;

& gt; Mike,

& gt; If your sons haven't been in the habit of helping it is going to be

a little difficult to get them started helping you at their ages. But,

there is no time like the present for them to start. It will not only

help you but help prepare them for their futures.

& gt;

& gt; Your sons are definitely old enough to clean bathrooms and at least

help with the laundry. If nothing else they are old enough to put

their dishes in the dishwasher and there is no reason for them to not

make their own beds and clean up any mess they may have created.

& gt;

& gt; I know it is hard to stop once you have started but try pacing

yourself, stopping after half an hour and I am sure you will find that

in the long run you will be able to set a lot more done and not hurt

near as much.

& gt;

& gt; Dorothy

& gt;

& gt;

& gt;

Dorothy thank you for you well need advice. my kids do have choirs as

of now. they must pick up after themselves load dishwaser my oldest

also is responible for moving the grass. they do there part my

problem with me. I feel usless not being able to do more. Here the

think. I had a Job working with Adults with Autism it was more then a

job for me I feel in love with what i did. thden to have a pateint

attack me and put me out of my job it is something I have gotten

over and it has been since 1999 so the guilt the holding on that

part what hurts the worst. my wife was a house mom she loved it. she

now has to go to a 9-5 job everyday. and come home and it tough. how

do I put the past behind me when every fiber of my being is crying go

back to work and do that job you loved. it was rewarding. it

lite a fire in my soul within 6 months of working there I got 3

accomdations. why? becuse i put my heart into it. Mike group owner

[Guest guest]

hi, justina!

day to day sometimes is all that we can do....you are so right...the dishes,

cobwebs and wash will all be there still tomorrow...and sometimes even the

day after that.

you have the right attitude!

i wish you the best of luck and pain free days and nights!

kathy

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[Guest guest]

Hello again,

Thank you so much for all your help --sorry about the 2002 thing, my husband

sent me an email saying the same thing and I changed it [i hope].

I live in the UK and at the moment very expensive cherries are in the shops

from the US and Greece, but someone said canned ones would work as well but

dont know about that -- my son found some dried goyi berries [wolfberries]

and I will look for dried cherries in the healthfood shops. This is just the

next step in sliding into the ditch of taking meds....more and more side

effects and weakening organs....this site is SO great, I had a major crisis

in 1999 when my back went, I was propped up in a chair for 8 months because

I couldnt lie down. I could, however, sit at the computer and that is when I

found this site and it kept me going through that nightmare time.

Recently I had to have an injection in my hip as I am scheduled for double

hip replacement when I stop looking for ways to get out of it and am in so

much pain I finally go. My blood pressure was 220/103 but there was no

anaesthesia involved so they did the procedure anyway. After that I was so

scared I did go on BP meds but only two and it is down to about 169/96. I

get myself so worked up before I go I am jumping out of my skin when I get

to the doc's.

Being 100+ pounds overweight has not helped my situation and even though I

know that wheat affects me physically, mentally, and spiritually even, I

still binge on it and this binging has brought me to this sad state. Heavy

duty pain like gout is the only thing that gets my attention but thanks to

an article I read in a woman's magazine I think I am finally on top of that.

Dumping avoids has meant I have lost about 18 pounds in the last 2 weeks,

mostly just fluid retention from the wheat. Eating wheat makes me binge,

fuels my depression and makes my weight spiral out of control.

SO once again thank you for your help. I'll let you know how I get on with

the BP.

Have a great day.

Kae

[Guest guest]

Just another suggestion, not that this will be cheaper than fresh cherries. I

have some cherry concentrate which makes a very nice juice. Montmorency is

supposed to be the best, packed with health benefits. You can search and

purchase on line like here: http://www.lelandcherry.com/

Marie

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://lift-up-your-hearts.blogspot.com/

[Guest guest]

Canned is OK as long as you find some that is ONLY cherries and water.

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:59 AM, <emhosdil@...> wrote:

> Just another suggestion, not that this will be cheaper than fresh

> cherries. I have some cherry concentrate which makes a very nice juice.

> Montmorency is supposed to be the best, packed with health benefits. You can

> search and purchase on line like here: http://www.lelandcherry.com/

>

> Marie

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------

> http://lift-up-your-hearts.blogspot.com/

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> hi, justina!

>

> day to day sometimes is all that we can do....you are so right...the

dishes,

> cobwebs and wash will all be there still tomorrow...and sometimes

even the

> day after that..............

>

>

> This is so true. It used to be that my kids came first (when they

were at home) but now it's my pain that comes first, then the house

cleaning, etc. The house, dust, dishes, wash will all be there later.

My hubby is pretty good at helping too, I'm blessed.

Best to all,

Ginny

[Guest guest]

On Jun 17, 2008, at 1:50 PM, Irene de Villiers wrote:

> Dear Kae,

> You sure have my empathy - I too have wheat issues, 10 lbs

> overweight,

Gee I love my typos - i wish that were true. There's a zero left off:-)

>

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

Yes, the cherry juice conc is good. Any without added sugar.

And don't forget extra water until the flair up settles down.

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:06 AM, firecrackerus <salbud@...> wrote:

> Kathy,

> I know the concentrated juice is not as good for us because of the

> increased concentration. Would the concentrated juice with no sugar

> added be as effective for gout?

>

>

> >

> > > Just another suggestion, not that this will be cheaper than

> fresh

> > > cherries. I have some cherry concentrate which makes a very nice

> juice.

> > > Montmorency is supposed to be the best, packed with health

> benefits. You can

> > > search and purchase on line like here:

> http://www.lelandcherry.com/

> > >

> > > Marie

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