Guest guest Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Ruth, Thank you so much for your response. It has really been helpful to talk with people who have undergone the same treatment as we have. It make me feel less alone since there isn't anyone around me that had the surgery. I've done some research and there are studies that show that people who were surgically corrected and those that have not been, usually end up with the same complications of disc / vertebrae damage. Some people who went untreated seem to have no pain while others are in extreme pain. I'm glad to hear that physical therapy helped you a bit. I would really rather not have any more vertebrae fused as I treasure the little flexibility I have. Plus the idea of surgery literally makes me feel ill. I didn't realize how badly my surgery back then affected me until I started researching and read others peoples stories. Especially those of the kids who are how having surgery, makes me very sad. Walking has become more of a problem for me lately. I've always had to sit down periodically while walking long distances, but mostly it was just to relieve stiffness and stretch everything back out. Now, the pain starts within the first 5 - 10 minutes and can get very bad. There are days when it hardly bothers me at all, but those days are getting fewer and far between. I'm seeing a doctor today, he's a scoliosis specialist in Oak Brook Terrace. We'll see what he has to say. By the way, what diagnostic tests did your doctor do to find out about your spondylolthesis? Have you had an MRI? Don't you wish someone had told us to take it easy on our backs? I remember being told I could do anything, no restrictions once I healed. If I had known the pressure my lower back was taking, I would have done some things differently. Just so you know, I am only about 10 pounds overweight, but I've always worked out and I still have problems. I don't think you weight is causing your troubles. Jeanne Hello, new member with some questions > > > Hello everyone, > > I am a new member to this group, and have to say that I am forever grateful to have found you guys. > > Several years ago I was diagnosed with scoliosis on my upper spine and lower, and yes it is inherited. I have several questions that I am hoping some of you can answer for me is possible. > > My grandmother has severe scoliosis, so much that her left rib cage is now going over her hip bone. I do not want to grow old this way. Is there something that I can do now in order to slow the progression of this or are there surgery options? I cant sit for very long periods of time, my back always hurts, and I have severe muscle pain at times, and my doctors cant seem to find out the cause (they think that its all in my head). Second question, would I see a specialist? If so, what type of specialist? I dont know where to start and or what can help me. But I am aware that the older I get the worse my back is and the worse that I am humping over. And I am only 31. > > If any of you couold offer some advice, it would much appreciated. Thanks to all! > > Kristie J > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Hi, there! Ruth, the methods used these days for fusing the vertebrae are so much more sophisticated! Please don't hesitate to have the surgery if your curve(s) is still progressing. It's well worth it to not have the pain and be able to walk like a human being. If I had to do it again, I would, and I'm fused front and back, T2 to L5, the whole back. I have four rods, to for the thoracic part and two along the lumbar part, because I had an S curve. lj From: r8mell <r8mell@...> Subject: Re: Hello, new member with some questions Scoliosis Treatment Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 7:33 PM Hi - this is my first time posting, or in a long time, so I hope I am Replying to the correct person. Jeanne - I had scoliosis surgery at Rush also by Dr. DeWald. My surgery was in 1974, and I turned 50 last year. I don't remember by curvature degrees but I think one was in the 70's. Like you, I had mostly stiffness problems, though there were times when my back went " out " and I'd have to lie on the floor for a day... Then last year the pain & stiffness got worse and I finally went to a specialist. I wasn't able to walk more than a block without sitting down to rest. Even though I'm overweight I had always been able to walk as long as I wanted to. Turns out I have spondylolthesis, which is a lower vertibrae out of place. Because all the others were fused that one vertibrae was/is the only one that moves and taking all the stress. I had 6 weeks of physical therapy and it was much better -- but I have trouble keeping up with excercizing on my own though I know I need to. The spine surgeon said the only " cure " would be fusion, which I don't want. He said it is very common in people years after the original surgery. Not sure if it is specific to Harrington Rods or not. He trained under the younger Dr. DeWald -- make me feel really OLD! Email me if you'd like to compare further notes. I had a body cast for 9 months, back in the day. I don't regret the surgery & it's hard to believe your friend has been ok without it! I was told I'd be in a wheelchair, most likely, if I didn't have it. As to the new member, your pain is most likely in part due to using muscles on one side more to compensate for the other side. But DO see a specialist. Ruth > > Hi Kristie, > > I am a soon to be 50 year-old-woman who had Harrington Rod surgery for scoliosis back in 1977. My curve was 50 degrees and I am now fused from T6 to L3 with a curve of 15 degrees. It was a very painful surgery and I was hospitalized for two weeks and wore a body cast for seven months that completely covered my torso. I was operated on at Rush Presbyterian- St Lukes Medical Center by Dr. DeWald. He has since retired, but his son works in the same field at the same hospital. > > I have to say that for most of the 30+ years since my surgery I have been able to do pretty much everything I wanted. From water skiing, hiking, and having three children. Most of the time the discomfort I felt was some stiffness in my lower back that would ease if I did regular stretching. I did have a few incidents with severe back pain at times, but they were few and I always recovered quickly. > > Unfortunately, I have been having increasing pain for the past 2 - 3 years which has grown to be a chronic problem. I have an appointment on April 17th with a spine specialist to see if they can tell me why I am having this pain. From the research I have done recently on line, the Harrington rod surgery is now considered faulty and is no longer used. I am trying to learn what I can about this before I see this doctor so I can ask the correct questions. > > I also have a close friend who did not have surgery, she's now in her late 40's. Her mother and her two sisters all have scoliosis and non have had surgical corrections. They stay fit and exercise. My friend's curve is quite significant, probably at least 50 degrees or more. She's had two children and says she has no pain. Her curve is not progressing any longer, so she feels quite content to just leave it alone. > > Making the decision to have surgery is not an easy one and should not be done until you have seen at least 3 specialists. In the United States there are several states that have top notch doctors. You should check out the following websites for more information: > > http://www.scoliosi s-assoc.org/ > > http://www.scoliosi s.org/ > > http://www.mayoclin ic.com/health/ scoliosis/ DS00194/DSECTION =coping-and- support > > These sites can help you find other groups and the doctors that may help you make a decision about what treatment is best for you. Speaking for myself only, I would look for non-surgical remedies, but ask reputable doctors about those types of options. If it seems that surgery is the best option, please know that there have been great advances in the surgeries they do now and they know how to avoid many of the complications that came with the type of surgery I had. > > Even with the pain I now have, I am active and do not regret the surgery. My curve was getting worse quickly and I was already 17 years old so bracing was not an option. My parents did what they thought was best and I have done very well since then. > > Good luck to you and please feel free to ask me any questions you might have. > > Jeanne S. > > Hello, new member with some questions > > > Hello everyone, > > I am a new member to this group, and have to say that I am forever grateful to have found you guys. > > Several years ago I was diagnosed with scoliosis on my upper spine and lower, and yes it is inherited. I have several questions that I am hoping some of you can answer for me is possible. > > My grandmother has severe scoliosis, so much that her left rib cage is now going over her hip bone. I do not want to grow old this way. Is there something that I can do now in order to slow the progression of this or are there surgery options? I cant sit for very long periods of time, my back always hurts, and I have severe muscle pain at times, and my doctors cant seem to find out the cause (they think that its all in my head). Second question, would I see a specialist? If so, what type of specialist? I dont know where to start and or what can help me. But I am aware that the older I get the worse my back is and the worse that I am humping over. And I am only 31. > > If any of you couold offer some advice, it would much appreciated. Thanks to all! > > Kristie J > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Lana, I just read your note to Ruth and you sound so confident about your revision surgery. I am looking at the possibility of the same thing and will be having a CT Myelgram (sp) within the next two weeks to see if we can determine the source of my pain. The doctor I met with today says I have flatback, but I am scared to death of surgery and losing the little mobility I have left. I am fused from T4 to L3 right now. When did you have your surgery and who was the doctor? How long did recovery take, how bad was the pain, how long were you in the hospital for, and how long before you could manage on your own? I have three kids ages 15, 13, and 9, so it would be very hard to be incapacitated for any length of time. I keep thinking I'll wait until the pain is so bad that surgery sounds good. Thanks for being so positive, your email was really soothing after being worried all day. Jeanne Hello, new member with some questions > > > Hello everyone, > > I am a new member to this group, and have to say that I am forever grateful to have found you guys. > > Several years ago I was diagnosed with scoliosis on my upper spine and lower, and yes it is inherited. I have several questions that I am hoping some of you can answer for me is possible. > > My grandmother has severe scoliosis, so much that her left rib cage is now going over her hip bone. I do not want to grow old this way. Is there something that I can do now in order to slow the progression of this or are there surgery options? I cant sit for very long periods of time, my back always hurts, and I have severe muscle pain at times, and my doctors cant seem to find out the cause (they think that its all in my head). Second question, would I see a specialist? If so, what type of specialist? I dont know where to start and or what can help me. But I am aware that the older I get the worse my back is and the worse that I am humping over. And I am only 31. > > If any of you couold offer some advice, it would much appreciated. Thanks to all! > > Kristie J > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Jeane, My spine issues sound similar to yours. My original surgery with Harrington rods fused from T2 to L4. The first surgery was at age 13. 30 years later, I was diagnosed with flatback and sever degenerative problems at L4-5 and L5-S1. I put up with the pain as long as possible, but eventually had to have a revision surgery if I wanted to keep walking. My revision surgery was 16 months ago. The dr. removed the lower portion of the Harrington Rod and then put in a bunch of new hardware and fused my spine down to S1. I was in the hospital for 8 days and then home recovering for another 7 weeks before returning to work. The loss of mobility from the additional fusion took several months for me to get used to.....but the pain is gone and that seems like a fair enough trade to me! I needed help at home for a few weeks....not 24/7. My husband and 16 year old daughter went to work and school and I was fine during the day, but relied on them to do all of the housework, shopping and cooking for about a month. I needed a walker for about 2 weeks. My parents and an adult daughter live close enough that they could stop by or pick up items from the grocery store for me. I would be lying if I told you that the surgery and recovery weren't painful. The first few days in the hospital were not fun at all....but the body is amazing at healing itself. Each day got a little better and after a few weeks I could start tapering off of the high doses of pain medication I was on. I am glad to have it over with. I think our bodies take longer to heal the older we get. I was 46.....and think I would have recovered faster if I had it done years earlier. If you any questions I can answer, let me know. I'm happy to help in any way I can. Melody Scoliosis Treatment From: slinkers5@... Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 21:50:55 -0500 Subject: Re: Re: Hello, new member with some questions Lana, I just read your note to Ruth and you sound so confident about your revision surgery. I am looking at the possibility of the same thing and will be having a CT Myelgram (sp) within the next two weeks to see if we can determine the source of my pain. The doctor I met with today says I have flatback, but I am scared to death of surgery and losing the little mobility I have left. I am fused from T4 to L3 right now. When did you have your surgery and who was the doctor? How long did recovery take, how bad was the pain, how long were you in the hospital for, and how long before you could manage on your own? I have three kids ages 15, 13, and 9, so it would be very hard to be incapacitated for any length of time. I keep thinking I'll wait until the pain is so bad that surgery sounds good. Thanks for being so positive, your email was really soothing after being worried all day. Jeanne Hello, new member with some questions > > > Hello everyone, > > I am a new member to this group, and have to say that I am forever grateful to have found you guys. > > Several years ago I was diagnosed with scoliosis on my upper spine and lower, and yes it is inherited. I have several questions that I am hoping some of you can answer for me is possible. > > My grandmother has severe scoliosis, so much that her left rib cage is now going over her hip bone. I do not want to grow old this way. Is there something that I can do now in order to slow the progression of this or are there surgery options? I cant sit for very long periods of time, my back always hurts, and I have severe muscle pain at times, and my doctors cant seem to find out the cause (they think that its all in my head). Second question, would I see a specialist? If so, what type of specialist? I dont know where to start and or what can help me. But I am aware that the older I get the worse my back is and the worse that I am humping over. And I am only 31. > > If any of you couold offer some advice, it would much appreciated. Thanks to all! > > Kristie J > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Hello, Jeanne, I was 53 when I had surgery in 2002, T2 to L5. I was in severe pain. I walked like Quasimodo, literally. When I got up out of a chair, I got up bent over as though the chair and I got up together. Then as I shuffled my feet forward, I very slowly straighted to about a 45 degree angle and walked leaning forward and sideways. I had been in PT for one year, but it wasn't helping the pain and the curves increased 10 degrees anyway, just in that one year. So, I met with my surgeon Dr. Monsey of the Vermont Spine Institute. He gave me my options and I opted for phsysical therapy, and I chose out of some more options to try pool therapy. That was in 2000. One year later, in 2001 I met with him again and found the increased curves, and I decided on surgery. It was another 6 months to surgery, bc it was the middle of winter and my best months healthwise were in the summer. So, it was July 2002 when I had the surgery. I was 9 days in the hospital. I felt like l had been hit by a truck, but my pain was gone, with the help of pain meds. Immediately after those 9 days, I was moved by hospital ambulance to rehab, where I was another 9 days. And, I still had no pain, but I was still on pain meds. I went home from the hospital and, following the doctor's instructions, I did NOTHING for three months so as not to cause nonfusion and injury to myself while waiting for the fusion to take. That meant, no loading/unloading the dishwasher, no lifting anything weighting more than a quart of milk, no driving, no housework, including sweeping, vaccuuming and dusting. I sat and read, watched TV, was on the computer a lot. At the time, our daughter and gdaughter lived with us. Our granddaughter was only almost a year old. But, I DID lift her, only, I was sitting at the time and had strong arms. The MD would not have approved, but I couldn't help it--I loved her and we were close. After 3 months, I was able to drive, but still no heavy housework, like vaccuuming, making beds, cleaning bathrooms. The xrays showed bone formation beginning, evidenced by the white areas on the tops and bottoms of the vertebrae. By six months, I was doing about everything I wanted to do and at 1 year, I was healed. I was on pain meds for 5 months and didn't need them after that, other than tylenol. I still had to be careful. Also, I had a bone strengthener that I wore around my middle over the plastic cast for 4 hours a day (which I wore all the time except in the shower and in bed). I wore the bone strengthener EVERYDAY. When I got home after 18 days, I had no pain, taking pain meds every day, only when I needed them, and wasn't on a schedule for them. My husband brought me home from the rehab clinic and I walked into his arms and looked up (I'm 5' he's 6' and cried saying, " No pain. " It was only three months after surgery that I could do things on my own on a limited basis. But, I wore the brace for six months, and got used to it. Again, it was six months when I began to do most of what I wanted to do. Everyone is different. The key here is to be physically fit before surgery so you can be corrected as much as possible and so you can heal more quickly. Dr. Monsey is located on Tilley Drive in So. Burlington, VT I'll post my pre-surgery questions pretty soon. From: r8mell <r8mell (DOT) com> Subject: Re: Hello, new member with some questions Scoliosis Treatment Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 7:33 PM Hi - this is my first time posting, or in a long time, so I hope I am Replying to the correct person. Jeanne - I had scoliosis surgery at Rush also by Dr. DeWald. My surgery was in 1974, and I turned 50 last year. I don't remember by curvature degrees but I think one was in the 70's. Like you, I had mostly stiffness problems, though there were times when my back went " out " and I'd have to lie on the floor for a day... Then last year the pain & stiffness got worse and I finally went to a specialist. I wasn't able to walk more than a block without sitting down to rest. Even though I'm overweight I had always been able to walk as long as I wanted to. Turns out I have spondylolthesis, which is a lower vertibrae out of place. Because all the others were fused that one vertibrae was/is the only one that moves and taking all the stress. I had 6 weeks of physical therapy and it was much better -- but I have trouble keeping up with excercizing on my own though I know I need to. The spine surgeon said the only " cure " would be fusion, which I don't want. He said it is very common in people years after the original surgery. Not sure if it is specific to Harrington Rods or not. He trained under the younger Dr. DeWald -- make me feel really OLD! Email me if you'd like to compare further notes. I had a body cast for 9 months, back in the day. I don't regret the surgery & it's hard to believe your friend has been ok without it! I was told I'd be in a wheelchair, most likely, if I didn't have it. As to the new member, your pain is most likely in part due to using muscles on one side more to compensate for the other side. But DO see a specialist. Ruth > > Hi Kristie, > > I am a soon to be 50 year-old-woman who had Harrington Rod surgery for scoliosis back in 1977. My curve was 50 degrees and I am now fused from T6 to L3 with a curve of 15 degrees. It was a very painful surgery and I was hospitalized for two weeks and wore a body cast for seven months that completely covered my torso. I was operated on at Rush Presbyterian- St Lukes Medical Center by Dr. DeWald. He has since retired, but his son works in the same field at the same hospital. > > I have to say that for most of the 30+ years since my surgery I have been able to do pretty much everything I wanted. From water skiing, hiking, and having three children. Most of the time the discomfort I felt was some stiffness in my lower back that would ease if I did regular stretching. I did have a few incidents with severe back pain at times, but they were few and I always recovered quickly. > > Unfortunately, I have been having increasing pain for the past 2 - 3 years which has grown to be a chronic problem. I have an appointment on April 17th with a spine specialist to see if they can tell me why I am having this pain. From the research I have done recently on line, the Harrington rod surgery is now considered faulty and is no longer used. I am trying to learn what I can about this before I see this doctor so I can ask the correct questions. > > I also have a close friend who did not have surgery, she's now in her late 40's. Her mother and her two sisters all have scoliosis and non have had surgical corrections. They stay fit and exercise. My friend's curve is quite significant, probably at least 50 degrees or more. She's had two children and says she has no pain. Her curve is not progressing any longer, so she feels quite content to just leave it alone. > > Making the decision to have surgery is not an easy one and should not be done until you have seen at least 3 specialists. In the United States there are several states that have top notch doctors. You should check out the following websites for more information: > > http://www.scoliosi s-assoc.org/ > > http://www.scoliosi s.org/ > > http://www.mayoclin ic.com/health/ scoliosis/ DS00194/DSECTION =coping-and- support > > These sites can help you find other groups and the doctors that may help you make a decision about what treatment is best for you. Speaking for myself only, I would look for non-surgical remedies, but ask reputable doctors about those types of options. If it seems that surgery is the best option, please know that there have been great advances in the surgeries they do now and they know how to avoid many of the complications that came with the type of surgery I had. > > Even with the pain I now have, I am active and do not regret the surgery. My curve was getting worse quickly and I was already 17 years old so bracing was not an option. My parents did what they thought was best and I have done very well since then. > > Good luck to you and please feel free to ask me any questions you might have. > > Jeanne S. > > Hello, new member with some questions > > > Hello everyone, > > I am a new member to this group, and have to say that I am forever grateful to have found you guys. > > Several years ago I was diagnosed with scoliosis on my upper spine and lower, and yes it is inherited. I have several questions that I am hoping some of you can answer for me is possible. > > My grandmother has severe scoliosis, so much that her left rib cage is now going over her hip bone. I do not want to grow old this way. Is there something that I can do now in order to slow the progression of this or are there surgery options? I cant sit for very long periods of time, my back always hurts, and I have severe muscle pain at times, and my doctors cant seem to find out the cause (they think that its all in my head). Second question, would I see a specialist? If so, what type of specialist? I dont know where to start and or what can help me. But I am aware that the older I get the worse my back is and the worse that I am humping over. And I am only 31. > > If any of you couold offer some advice, it would much appreciated. Thanks to all! > > Kristie J > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Hi Melody, Thanks so much for the information. I'm trying to learn as much as I can so that when/if the time comes I need another surgery, I am fully prepared. The doctor I saw two days ago said I have flatback, although I didn't see the side view x-ray he took. I have a cd of it and I'm trying to figure out how to look at it on my computer. I'm scheduled for a CT Mylegram (sp) in a couple weeks and then I'll go back and meet with the doctor again. I don't think I would go to him for surgery, not because I think he's not a good doctor, but because I don't think he does that many revisions. He mostly does the initial scoliosis surgery. Have you had a CT Mylegram? Who was the doctor that did your revision? If you don't mind my asking, how old were you when you had the revision? I am 50 and in pretty good shape, but I'm not in enough pain yet to be willing to go through such a difficult surgery. I give you and everyone else who has had this revision surgery, so much credit for being brave and strong. ly, the idea of having surgery on my back again terrifies me. Once I have the results of the CT, I may change my mind, depending on what they find. Right now I have good days and bad days but this current level of pain has only been with me for a few months and it's only rarely severe. So I keep hoping I can get therapy or something simple to make it go away. I'm probably kidding myself! Anyway, thanks for sharing your story. It is so wonderful that we have the internet now so we can share information and support for one another. Jeanne Hello, new member with some questions > > > Hello everyone, > > I am a new member to this group, and have to say that I am forever grateful to have found you guys. > > Several years ago I was diagnosed with scoliosis on my upper spine and lower, and yes it is inherited. I have several questions that I am hoping some of you can answer for me is possible. > > My grandmother has severe scoliosis, so much that her left rib cage is now going over her hip bone. I do not want to grow old this way. Is there something that I can do now in order to slow the progression of this or are there surgery options? I cant sit for very long periods of time, my back always hurts, and I have severe muscle pain at times, and my doctors cant seem to find out the cause (they think that its all in my head). Second question, would I see a specialist? If so, what type of specialist? I dont know where to start and or what can help me. But I am aware that the older I get the worse my back is and the worse that I am humping over. And I am only 31. > > If any of you couold offer some advice, it would much appreciated. Thanks to all! > > Kristie J > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Lana, I am so happy that you were able to have a successful surgery. I cannot imagine the pain you were dealing with for so long. Are you pain free now? And what is a bone strengthener? I have never heard of that and am curious as to what it is / does. Thank goodness you have such a wonderful daughter and husband to take such good care of you. At this time, I am scheduled for a CT Mylegram in a couple weeks. From there I will find out what my current doctor thinks needs to be done. He did say that it is possible I might only need the bottom hook from my Harrington rod removed as that might be what is pressing on a nerve. If I do end up needing a revision surgery, I hope I can be as brave as the members of this group have been. I am in awe of what you and the others have gone through and how helpful you are to the newbies like myself. Thank you for being so kind and sharing your experiences with me, Jeanne Hello, new member with some questions > > > Hello everyone, > > I am a new member to this group, and have to say that I am forever grateful to have found you guys. > > Several years ago I was diagnosed with scoliosis on my upper spine and lower, and yes it is inherited. I have several questions that I am hoping some of you can answer for me is possible. > > My grandmother has severe scoliosis, so much that her left rib cage is now going over her hip bone. I do not want to grow old this way. Is there something that I can do now in order to slow the progression of this or are there surgery options? I cant sit for very long periods of time, my back always hurts, and I have severe muscle pain at times, and my doctors cant seem to find out the cause (they think that its all in my head). Second question, would I see a specialist? If so, what type of specialist? I dont know where to start and or what can help me. But I am aware that the older I get the worse my back is and the worse that I am humping over. And I am only 31. > > If any of you couold offer some advice, it would much appreciated. Thanks to all! > > Kristie J > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Jeanne, I have had 2 CT mylegram. The first one was not fun at all, but the second one was a breeze. Make sure the radiologist is VERY experienced. Getting the needles into spines like ours can be challenging......lots of scar tissue, bone spurs and hardware to negotiate through. I was 46 when I had my revision. I didn't decide to have the surgery based on the pain. Like you, there were enough good days that I might have put it off for several years. Actually....my neck area was much more painful than my lumbar. My decision to have the revision was based on problems I began having with my feet.....numbness and something called foot drop. I was trying to schedule artificial disc replacement surgery for my neck, but my surgeon wouldn't take care of my neck until after I had the revision surgery. Don't hesitate to ask any questions that might help you. Revision surgery is major......not something to take lightly....but in some cases (like mine) it was necessary. I am glad I had it.....but it would have been nicer to not have ever needed spine surgery. Stay in touch. Another good place to get information is " Ispine " . Google it. There are lots of people there with good information to share. Melody Hello, new member with some questions > > > Hello everyone, > > I am a new member to this group, and have to say that I am forever grateful to have found you guys. > > Several years ago I was diagnosed with scoliosis on my upper spine and lower, and yes it is inherited. I have several questions that I am hoping some of you can answer for me is possible. > > My grandmother has severe scoliosis, so much that her left rib cage is now going over her hip bone. I do not want to grow old this way. Is there something that I can do now in order to slow the progression of this or are there surgery options? I cant sit for very long periods of time, my back always hurts, and I have severe muscle pain at times, and my doctors cant seem to find out the cause (they think that its all in my head). Second question, would I see a specialist? If so, what type of specialist? I dont know where to start and or what can help me. But I am aware that the older I get the worse my back is and the worse that I am humping over. And I am only 31. > > If any of you couold offer some advice, it would much appreciated. Thanks to all! > > Kristie J > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Don't you wish someone had told us to take it easy on our backs? I remember being told I could do anything, no restrictions once I healed. If I had known the pressure my lower back was taking, I would have done some things differently. Just so you know, I am only about 10 pounds overweight, but I've always worked out and I still have problems. I don't think you weight is causing your troubles. I wonder if that would have made a difference in the pain I am experience now. Same thing with me, I was told that I could do anything and no limits on my activities. After I was released from the last post-op visit that was my advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Melody, Thank you for the information about the myelogram. I am going to follow up with the hospital where I am having it to make sure they assign someone who is skilled. This is the same hospital where I had my last child and I did have a successful epidural there, but only after the head of anesthesiology came on duty. The guy that was there when I first arrived was too scared to mess with my back. The head anesthesiologist had no problem at all. So, I'm glad you pointed that out as I hadn't really thought about the need for someone more skilled than the average technician. I will no doubt have more questions after my test, so you may be hearing from me again! Thanks, Jeanne Hello, new member with some questions > > > Hello everyone, > > I am a new member to this group, and have to say that I am forever grateful to have found you guys. > > Several years ago I was diagnosed with scoliosis on my upper spine and lower, and yes it is inherited. I have several questions that I am hoping some of you can answer for me is possible. > > My grandmother has severe scoliosis, so much that her left rib cage is now going over her hip bone. I do not want to grow old this way. Is there something that I can do now in order to slow the progression of this or are there surgery options? I cant sit for very long periods of time, my back always hurts, and I have severe muscle pain at times, and my doctors cant seem to find out the cause (they think that its all in my head). Second question, would I see a specialist? If so, what type of specialist? I dont know where to start and or what can help me. But I am aware that the older I get the worse my back is and the worse that I am humping over. And I am only 31. > > If any of you couold offer some advice, it would much appreciated. Thanks to all! > > Kristie J > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 ________________________________ From: Slinker <slinkers5@...> Scoliosis Treatment Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:28:42 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hello, new member with some questions Melody, Thank you for the information about the myelogram. I am going to follow up with the hospital where I am having it to make sure they assign someone who is skilled. This is the same hospital where I had my last child and I did have a successful epidural there, but only after the head of anesthesiology came on duty. The guy that was there when I first arrived was too scared to mess with my back. The head anesthesiologist had no problem at all. So, I'm glad you pointed that out as I hadn't really thought about the need for someone more skilled than the average technician. I will no doubt have more questions after my test, so you may be hearing from me again! Thanks, Jeanne Hello, new member with some questions > > > Hello everyone, > > I am a new member to this group, and have to say that I am forever grateful to have found you guys. > > Several years ago I was diagnosed with scoliosis on my upper spine and lower, and yes it is inherited. I have several questions that I am hoping some of you can answer for me is possible. > > My grandmother has severe scoliosis, so much that her left rib cage is now going over her hip bone. I do not want to grow old this way. Is there something that I can do now in order to slow the progression of this or are there surgery options? I cant sit for very long periods of time, my back always hurts, and I have severe muscle pain at times, and my doctors cant seem to find out the cause (they think that its all in my head). Second question, would I see a specialist? If so, what type of specialist? I dont know where to start and or what can help me. But I am aware that the older I get the worse my back is and the worse that I am humping over. And I am only 31. > > If any of you couold offer some advice, it would much appreciated. Thanks to all! > > Kristie J > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 I've thought that same thing. Different surgeons, different ideas. My first gave me no brace, no exercises, no preparation for my new body limitations. I didn't fuse and the rods broke 2 years later. This last surgery, different surgeon, a week in rehab, a brace made specially for my body and had to wear it at all times for minimum 3 mths, and a bone stimulator that I used for about 9 mths. Haven't yet passed the 2 yr mark, but I feel I have better odds this time. ________________________________ From: " makeyellow@... " <makeyellow@...> Scoliosis Treatment Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:44:46 AM Subject: Re: Re: Hello, new member with some questions Don't you wish someone had told us to take it easy on our backs? I remember being told I could do anything, no restrictions once I healed. If I had known the pressure my lower back was taking, I would have done some things differently. Just so you know, I am only about 10 pounds overweight, but I've always worked out and I still have problems. I don't think you weight is causing your troubles. I wonder if that would have made a difference in the pain I am experience now. Same thing with me, I was told that I could do anything and no limits on my activities. After I was released from the last post-op visit that was my advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 I had revision surgery a little over a year ago. You've probably seen some of my posts, complaining about the pain from the screws. Well, I don't like to say this because I loved my dog dearly and miss her so much, but all last year, starting right after the surgery, I had to help her stand up, lie down, get up and down the stairs and clean up her messes that sometimes were unbelievable. I hurt myself so much by doing that. But I couldn't put her down when I could see she wasn't ready to die. Now that I've had time to recover--and I'll tell ya, I've never slept so much in my life since she died in December--but my pain is so much better. I believe if I hadn't had the revision surgery I would've kept getting worse. I was headed back toward the pain I suffered for years before the surgery. I only wish I'd taken better care of myself after the first one and maybe I could've prevented this last one. But like the other woman said, things are different. I have a 2 " cut in my side and a 4 " cut above my pubic area. No big cut across my abdominal like it was just a couple years ago. We heal so much faster without so much muscle being cut. ________________________________ From: Slinker <slinkers5@...> Scoliosis Treatment Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 8:50:55 PM Subject: Re: Re: Hello, new member with some questions Lana, I just read your note to Ruth and you sound so confident about your revision surgery. I am looking at the possibility of the same thing and will be having a CT Myelgram (sp) within the next two weeks to see if we can determine the source of my pain. The doctor I met with today says I have flatback, but I am scared to death of surgery and losing the little mobility I have left. I am fused from T4 to L3 right now. When did you have your surgery and who was the doctor? How long did recovery take, how bad was the pain, how long were you in the hospital for, and how long before you could manage on your own? I have three kids ages 15, 13, and 9, so it would be very hard to be incapacitated for any length of time. I keep thinking I'll wait until the pain is so bad that surgery sounds good. Thanks for being so positive, your email was really soothing after being worried all day. Jeanne Hello, new member with some questions > > > Hello everyone, > > I am a new member to this group, and have to say that I am forever grateful to have found you guys. > > Several years ago I was diagnosed with scoliosis on my upper spine and lower, and yes it is inherited. I have several questions that I am hoping some of you can answer for me is possible. > > My grandmother has severe scoliosis, so much that her left rib cage is now going over her hip bone. I do not want to grow old this way. Is there something that I can do now in order to slow the progression of this or are there surgery options? I cant sit for very long periods of time, my back always hurts, and I have severe muscle pain at times, and my doctors cant seem to find out the cause (they think that its all in my head). Second question, would I see a specialist? If so, what type of specialist? I dont know where to start and or what can help me. But I am aware that the older I get the worse my back is and the worse that I am humping over. And I am only 31. > > If any of you couold offer some advice, it would much appreciated. Thanks to all! > > Kristie J > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 A bone strengthener is like a tens unit. The electrical current (run by batteries that last about two weeks), is what helps build the bones. My surgeon ordered it withought my knowledge, and it was delevered by UPS one day. At first, I didn't know what it was, but the address gave me a good hint. I wore it for four hours a day, without fail. The batteries were provided and came with it. At the end of six months (I think, it may have been less), I still had batteries left. I took it to my surgeon's office when I was done with it and donated it to the Third World, where he worked a month or so a year. lj From: r8mell <r8mell (DOT) com> Subject: Re: Hello, new member with some questions Scoliosis Treatment Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 7:33 PM Hi - this is my first time posting, or in a long time, so I hope I am Replying to the correct person. Jeanne - I had scoliosis surgery at Rush also by Dr. DeWald. My surgery was in 1974, and I turned 50 last year. I don't remember by curvature degrees but I think one was in the 70's. Like you, I had mostly stiffness problems, though there were times when my back went " out " and I'd have to lie on the floor for a day... Then last year the pain & stiffness got worse and I finally went to a specialist. I wasn't able to walk more than a block without sitting down to rest. Even though I'm overweight I had always been able to walk as long as I wanted to. Turns out I have spondylolthesis, which is a lower vertibrae out of place. Because all the others were fused that one vertibrae was/is the only one that moves and taking all the stress. I had 6 weeks of physical therapy and it was much better -- but I have trouble keeping up with excercizing on my own though I know I need to. The spine surgeon said the only " cure " would be fusion, which I don't want. He said it is very common in people years after the original surgery. Not sure if it is specific to Harrington Rods or not. He trained under the younger Dr. DeWald -- make me feel really OLD! Email me if you'd like to compare further notes. I had a body cast for 9 months, back in the day. I don't regret the surgery & it's hard to believe your friend has been ok without it! I was told I'd be in a wheelchair, most likely, if I didn't have it. As to the new member, your pain is most likely in part due to using muscles on one side more to compensate for the other side. But DO see a specialist. Ruth > > Hi Kristie, > > I am a soon to be 50 year-old-woman who had Harrington Rod surgery for scoliosis back in 1977. My curve was 50 degrees and I am now fused from T6 to L3 with a curve of 15 degrees. It was a very painful surgery and I was hospitalized for two weeks and wore a body cast for seven months that completely covered my torso. I was operated on at Rush Presbyterian- St Lukes Medical Center by Dr. DeWald. He has since retired, but his son works in the same field at the same hospital. > > I have to say that for most of the 30+ years since my surgery I have been able to do pretty much everything I wanted. From water skiing, hiking, and having three children. Most of the time the discomfort I felt was some stiffness in my lower back that would ease if I did regular stretching. I did have a few incidents with severe back pain at times, but they were few and I always recovered quickly. > > Unfortunately, I have been having increasing pain for the past 2 - 3 years which has grown to be a chronic problem. I have an appointment on April 17th with a spine specialist to see if they can tell me why I am having this pain. From the research I have done recently on line, the Harrington rod surgery is now considered faulty and is no longer used. I am trying to learn what I can about this before I see this doctor so I can ask the correct questions. > > I also have a close friend who did not have surgery, she's now in her late 40's. Her mother and her two sisters all have scoliosis and non have had surgical corrections. They stay fit and exercise. My friend's curve is quite significant, probably at least 50 degrees or more. She's had two children and says she has no pain. Her curve is not progressing any longer, so she feels quite content to just leave it alone. > > Making the decision to have surgery is not an easy one and should not be done until you have seen at least 3 specialists. In the United States there are several states that have top notch doctors. You should check out the following websites for more information: > > http://www.scoliosi s-assoc.org/ > > http://www.scoliosi s.org/ > > http://www.mayoclin ic.com/health/ scoliosis/ DS00194/DSECTION =coping-and- support > > These sites can help you find other groups and the doctors that may help you make a decision about what treatment is best for you. Speaking for myself only, I would look for non-surgical remedies, but ask reputable doctors about those types of options. If it seems that surgery is the best option, please know that there have been great advances in the surgeries they do now and they know how to avoid many of the complications that came with the type of surgery I had. > > Even with the pain I now have, I am active and do not regret the surgery. My curve was getting worse quickly and I was already 17 years old so bracing was not an option. My parents did what they thought was best and I have done very well since then. > > Good luck to you and please feel free to ask me any questions you might have. > > Jeanne S. > > Hello, new member with some questions > > > Hello everyone, > > I am a new member to this group, and have to say that I am forever grateful to have found you guys. > > Several years ago I was diagnosed with scoliosis on my upper spine and lower, and yes it is inherited. I have several questions that I am hoping some of you can answer for me is possible. > > My grandmother has severe scoliosis, so much that her left rib cage is now going over her hip bone. I do not want to grow old this way. Is there something that I can do now in order to slow the progression of this or are there surgery options? I cant sit for very long periods of time, my back always hurts, and I have severe muscle pain at times, and my doctors cant seem to find out the cause (they think that its all in my head). Second question, would I see a specialist? If so, what type of specialist? I dont know where to start and or what can help me. But I am aware that the older I get the worse my back is and the worse that I am humping over. And I am only 31. > > If any of you couold offer some advice, it would much appreciated. Thanks to all! > > Kristie J > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Dear Melody, Please ask your scoli doctor to refer you to a neurologist for testing. It sounds to me as though you have some neuro symptoms that a neurologist should evaluate. Lj with CMT2 and scoliosis From: r8mell <r8mell (DOT) com<mailto:r8mell (DOT) com>> Subject: Re: Hello, new member with some questions Scoliosis Treatment<mailto:Scoliosis Treatment@ groups. com> Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 7:33 PM Hi - this is my first time posting, or in a long time, so I hope I am Replying to the correct person. Jeanne - I had scoliosis surgery at Rush also by Dr. DeWald. My surgery was in 1974, and I turned 50 last year. I don't remember by curvature degrees but I think one was in the 70's. Like you, I had mostly stiffness problems, though there were times when my back went " out " and I'd have to lie on the floor for a day... Then last year the pain & stiffness got worse and I finally went to a specialist. I wasn't able to walk more than a block without sitting down to rest. Even though I'm overweight I had always been able to walk as long as I wanted to. Turns out I have spondylolthesis, which is a lower vertibrae out of place. Because all the others were fused that one vertibrae was/is the only one that moves and taking all the stress. I had 6 weeks of physical therapy and it was much better -- but I have trouble keeping up with excercizing on my own though I know I need to. The spine surgeon said the only " cure " would be fusion, which I don't want. He said it is very common in people years after the original surgery. Not sure if it is specific to Harrington Rods or not. He trained under the younger Dr. DeWald -- make me feel really OLD! Email me if you'd like to compare further notes. I had a body cast for 9 months, back in the day. I don't regret the surgery & it's hard to believe your friend has been ok without it! I was told I'd be in a wheelchair, most likely, if I didn't have it. As to the new member, your pain is most likely in part due to using muscles on one side more to compensate for the other side. But DO see a specialist. Ruth > > Hi Kristie, > > I am a soon to be 50 year-old-woman who had Harrington Rod surgery for scoliosis back in 1977. My curve was 50 degrees and I am now fused from T6 to L3 with a curve of 15 degrees. It was a very painful surgery and I was hospitalized for two weeks and wore a body cast for seven months that completely covered my torso. I was operated on at Rush Presbyterian- St Lukes Medical Center by Dr. DeWald. He has since retired, but his son works in the same field at the same hospital. > > I have to say that for most of the 30+ years since my surgery I have been able to do pretty much everything I wanted. From water skiing, hiking, and having three children. Most of the time the discomfort I felt was some stiffness in my lower back that would ease if I did regular stretching. I did have a few incidents with severe back pain at times, but they were few and I always recovered quickly. > > Unfortunately, I have been having increasing pain for the past 2 - 3 years which has grown to be a chronic problem. I have an appointment on April 17th with a spine specialist to see if they can tell me why I am having this pain. From the research I have done recently on line, the Harrington rod surgery is now considered faulty and is no longer used. I am trying to learn what I can about this before I see this doctor so I can ask the correct questions. > > I also have a close friend who did not have surgery, she's now in her late 40's. Her mother and her two sisters all have scoliosis and non have had surgical corrections. They stay fit and exercise. My friend's curve is quite significant, probably at least 50 degrees or more. She's had two children and says she has no pain. Her curve is not progressing any longer, so she feels quite content to just leave it alone. > > Making the decision to have surgery is not an easy one and should not be done until you have seen at least 3 specialists. In the United States there are several states that have top notch doctors. You should check out the following websites for more information: > > http://www.scoliosi<http://www.scoliosi /> s-assoc.org/ > > http://www.scoliosi<http://www.scoliosi /> s.org/ > > http://www.mayoclin<http://www.mayoclin /> ic.com/health/ scoliosis/ DS00194/DSECTION =coping-and- support > > These sites can help you find other groups and the doctors that may help you make a decision about what treatment is best for you. Speaking for myself only, I would look for non-surgical remedies, but ask reputable doctors about those types of options. If it seems that surgery is the best option, please know that there have been great advances in the surgeries they do now and they know how to avoid many of the complications that came with the type of surgery I had. > > Even with the pain I now have, I am active and do not regret the surgery. My curve was getting worse quickly and I was already 17 years old so bracing was not an option. My parents did what they thought was best and I have done very well since then. > > Good luck to you and please feel free to ask me any questions you might have. > > Jeanne S. > > Hello, new member with some questions > > > Hello everyone, > > I am a new member to this group, and have to say that I am forever grateful to have found you guys. > > Several years ago I was diagnosed with scoliosis on my upper spine and lower, and yes it is inherited. I have several questions that I am hoping some of you can answer for me is possible. > > My grandmother has severe scoliosis, so much that her left rib cage is now going over her hip bone. I do not want to grow old this way. Is there something that I can do now in order to slow the progression of this or are there surgery options? I cant sit for very long periods of time, my back always hurts, and I have severe muscle pain at times, and my doctors cant seem to find out the cause (they think that its all in my head). Second question, would I see a specialist? If so, what type of specialist? I dont know where to start and or what can help me. But I am aware that the older I get the worse my back is and the worse that I am humping over. And I am only 31. > > If any of you couold offer some advice, it would much appreciated. Thanks to all! > > Kristie J > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 Lana, Is your response directed at me (Jeanne) or Melody. Melody indicated she recently had revision surgery and all is going well for her so I think you are actually referring to me. (See further down in the thread.) I had my original scoliosis surgery in 1977 and am now having back / hip / leg pain on a constant basis. It's been on and off for the past year or so, but in the past few months has become almost constant. You indicated a need to see a neurologist due to the symptoms and I am trying to learn all I can about how my symptoms relate to other peoples pain. I have sharp, stabbing, pains in my lower back that occur whenever I stand or walk for more than 10 - 15 minutes. Currently I can stand up straight, although I tend to lean forward just a little when my back starts to hurt. If I suck in my stomach and straighten up, sometimes it helps reduce the pain and sometimes it makes it worse. I do some modified strengthening exercises to increase core strength, but I am usually in pain afterwards. If I lay flat on my back for a half hour or so, the pain goes away. Sometimes in as little as 10 minutes. I can ride a regular exercise bike without any pain, but walking has become too painful. I do have a nerve like pain that travels down my right leg, but it comes and goes but is generally not very bad. The worst pain is in my lower back and hips. I get pain right in the lower spine that will eventually spread across my entire lower back. I have migrating pains in my back and hips - meaning it will hurt in one area for awhile and then move to another. The scoliosis specialist I saw last week has told me to have a CT Myelogram to look for stenosis and / or neural compression which I will be having on 4/23/09. What else should I be doing? This doctor took x-rays of my back from front and side, but the x-ray is so dark it is impossible to see the curve of my lumbar spine from the side. I am fused from T4 to L3 so I do (did) have good curve down there, at least until 14 years ago. I know that I will not have this doctor do any treatment or surgery, he's just the one I am seeing for a first opinion. I have heard that Dr. Ondra in Chicago is a good revision specialist and since I live in the suburbs of Chicago I plan on seeing him for another opinion. Any advice on what I should do - from anyone - is welcome! Sorry this post is so long and I thank everyone that has read all the way to the end. Jeanne Hello, new member with some questions > > > Hello everyone, > > I am a new member to this group, and have to say that I am forever grateful to have found you guys. > > Several years ago I was diagnosed with scoliosis on my upper spine and lower, and yes it is inherited. I have several questions that I am hoping some of you can answer for me is possible. > > My grandmother has severe scoliosis, so much that her left rib cage is now going over her hip bone. I do not want to grow old this way. Is there something that I can do now in order to slow the progression of this or are there surgery options? I cant sit for very long periods of time, my back always hurts, and I have severe muscle pain at times, and my doctors cant seem to find out the cause (they think that its all in my head). Second question, would I see a specialist? If so, what type of specialist? I dont know where to start and or what can help me. But I am aware that the older I get the worse my back is and the worse that I am humping over. And I am only 31. > > If any of you couold offer some advice, it would much appreciated. Thanks to all! > > Kristie J > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Hi, I think it would be very wise of you to ask your scoli doctor for a referral to a neurologist to ask for an EMT and nerve conduction tests because there is a problem called Charcot-Marie-Tooth-disease, named after three European men who discovered it. Scoli can be found in 27% of CMTers, and I'm one of them. The main symptoms of CMT are numbness and weakess in the feet and legs, and in severe forms, also in the hands and forearms. CMT can cause bone deformities such as scoli, crooked fingers, hammer toes, bone spurts in the feet, and essentially anywhere in the body (I also had a bone spur removed from my heel in 1982). It can be the cause of restless leg syndrome (when one cannot relax the legs at night), pins and needles in the feet (and hands sometimes), cramps in the feet and hands (I had that early on), falling and losing one's balance... Those are the main ones. You mentioned SEVERAL OF THOSE! So, tell your orthopedist, because MANY doctors, even neurlogists(!) don't know about CMT! And, if it sounds like they don't want to refer you, DON'T TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER! Your muscles will thank you later, if you do have it. As for the pain that comes and goes in the back of your legs, in your buttucks, at the base of your spine, well, it can be stenosis or sciatica. Nevertheless, get the referral! please. lj From: r8mell <r8mell (DOT) com<mailto:r8mell@ . com>> Subject: Re: Hello, new member with some questions Scoliosis Treatment<mailto:Scoliosi s-Medical@ groups. com> Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 7:33 PM Hi - this is my first time posting, or in a long time, so I hope I am Replying to the correct person. Jeanne - I had scoliosis surgery at Rush also by Dr. DeWald. My surgery was in 1974, and I turned 50 last year. I don't remember by curvature degrees but I think one was in the 70's. Like you, I had mostly stiffness problems, though there were times when my back went " out " and I'd have to lie on the floor for a day... Then last year the pain & stiffness got worse and I finally went to a specialist. I wasn't able to walk more than a block without sitting down to rest. Even though I'm overweight I had always been able to walk as long as I wanted to. Turns out I have spondylolthesis, which is a lower vertibrae out of place. Because all the others were fused that one vertibrae was/is the only one that moves and taking all the stress. I had 6 weeks of physical therapy and it was much better -- but I have trouble keeping up with excercizing on my own though I know I need to. The spine surgeon said the only " cure " would be fusion, which I don't want. He said it is very common in people years after the original surgery. Not sure if it is specific to Harrington Rods or not. He trained under the younger Dr. DeWald -- make me feel really OLD! Email me if you'd like to compare further notes. I had a body cast for 9 months, back in the day. I don't regret the surgery & it's hard to believe your friend has been ok without it! I was told I'd be in a wheelchair, most likely, if I didn't have it. As to the new member, your pain is most likely in part due to using muscles on one side more to compensate for the other side. But DO see a specialist. Ruth > > Hi Kristie, > > I am a soon to be 50 year-old-woman who had Harrington Rod surgery for scoliosis back in 1977. My curve was 50 degrees and I am now fused from T6 to L3 with a curve of 15 degrees. It was a very painful surgery and I was hospitalized for two weeks and wore a body cast for seven months that completely covered my torso. I was operated on at Rush Presbyterian- St Lukes Medical Center by Dr. DeWald. He has since retired, but his son works in the same field at the same hospital. > > I have to say that for most of the 30+ years since my surgery I have been able to do pretty much everything I wanted. From water skiing, hiking, and having three children. Most of the time the discomfort I felt was some stiffness in my lower back that would ease if I did regular stretching. I did have a few incidents with severe back pain at times, but they were few and I always recovered quickly. > > Unfortunately, I have been having increasing pain for the past 2 - 3 years which has grown to be a chronic problem. I have an appointment on April 17th with a spine specialist to see if they can tell me why I am having this pain. From the research I have done recently on line, the Harrington rod surgery is now considered faulty and is no longer used. I am trying to learn what I can about this before I see this doctor so I can ask the correct questions. > > I also have a close friend who did not have surgery, she's now in her late 40's. Her mother and her two sisters all have scoliosis and non have had surgical corrections. They stay fit and exercise. My friend's curve is quite significant, probably at least 50 degrees or more. She's had two children and says she has no pain. Her curve is not progressing any longer, so she feels quite content to just leave it alone. > > Making the decision to have surgery is not an easy one and should not be done until you have seen at least 3 specialists. In the United States there are several states that have top notch doctors. You should check out the following websites for more information: > > http://www.scoliosi<http://www.scoliosi /> s-assoc.org/ > > http://www.scoliosi<http://www.scoliosi /> s.org/ > > http://www.mayoclin<http://www.mayoclin /> ic.com/health/ scoliosis/ DS00194/DSECTION =coping-and- support > > These sites can help you find other groups and the doctors that may help you make a decision about what treatment is best for you. Speaking for myself only, I would look for non-surgical remedies, but ask reputable doctors about those types of options. If it seems that surgery is the best option, please know that there have been great advances in the surgeries they do now and they know how to avoid many of the complications that came with the type of surgery I had. > > Even with the pain I now have, I am active and do not regret the surgery. My curve was getting worse quickly and I was already 17 years old so bracing was not an option. My parents did what they thought was best and I have done very well since then. > > Good luck to you and please feel free to ask me any questions you might have. > > Jeanne S. > > Hello, new member with some questions > > > Hello everyone, > > I am a new member to this group, and have to say that I am forever grateful to have found you guys. > > Several years ago I was diagnosed with scoliosis on my upper spine and lower, and yes it is inherited. I have several questions that I am hoping some of you can answer for me is possible. > > My grandmother has severe scoliosis, so much that her left rib cage is now going over her hip bone. I do not want to grow old this way. Is there something that I can do now in order to slow the progression of this or are there surgery options? I cant sit for very long periods of time, my back always hurts, and I have severe muscle pain at times, and my doctors cant seem to find out the cause (they think that its all in my head). Second question, would I see a specialist? If so, what type of specialist? I dont know where to start and or what can help me. But I am aware that the older I get the worse my back is and the worse that I am humping over. And I am only 31. > > If any of you couold offer some advice, it would much appreciated. Thanks to all! > > Kristie J > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Can a GP do a blood test for CMT? Thanks, n -- Hello, new member with some questions > > > Hello everyone, > > I am a new member to this group, and have to say that I am forever grateful to have found you guys. > > Several years ago I was diagnosed with scoliosis on my upper spine and lower, and yes it is inherited. I have several questions that I am hoping some of you can answer for me is possible. > > My grandmother has severe scoliosis, so much that her left rib cage is now going over her hip bone. I do not want to grow old this way. Is there something that I can do now in order to slow the progression of this or are there surgery options? I cant sit for very long periods of time, my back always hurts, and I have severe muscle pain at times, and my doctors cant seem to find out the cause (they think that its all in my head). Second question, would I see a specialist? If so, what type of specialist? I dont know where to start and or what can help me. But I am aware that the older I get the worse my back is and the worse that I am humping over. And I am only 31. > > If any of you couold offer some advice, it would much appreciated. Thanks to all! > > Kristie J > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Thank you so much for the advice! I will definitely ask to see a neurologist at my next appointment. Jeanne Hello, new member with some questions > > > Hello everyone, > > I am a new member to this group, and have to say that I am forever grateful to have found you guys. > > Several years ago I was diagnosed with scoliosis on my upper spine and lower, and yes it is inherited. I have several questions that I am hoping some of you can answer for me is possible. > > My grandmother has severe scoliosis, so much that her left rib cage is now going over her hip bone. I do not want to grow old this way. Is there something that I can do now in order to slow the progression of this or are there surgery options? I cant sit for very long periods of time, my back always hurts, and I have severe muscle pain at times, and my doctors cant seem to find out the cause (they think that its all in my head). Second question, would I see a specialist? If so, what type of specialist? I dont know where to start and or what can help me. But I am aware that the older I get the worse my back is and the worse that I am humping over. And I am only 31. > > If any of you couold offer some advice, it would much appreciated. Thanks to all! > > Kristie J > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 I don't know if a GP could do the test or if a neuro has to, but the test could come back a false negative because it doesn't test for all types of CMT. I guess I'd say (I'm no doctor) that if the MD wants to go ahead with a blood test now, that would be ok, esp if it comes back with the type of CMT you might have. But, if not, don't take it that you don't have CMT altogether. That's when only an EMG (electromyelogram) and nerve conduction tests can know for sure. They are only done by neurologists. Good luck to you. Lj CMT2 From: r8mell <r8mell (DOT) com< mailto:r8mell@ . com>> Subject: Re: Hello, new member with some questions Scoliosis Treatment< mailto:Scoliosi s-Medical@ groups. com> Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 7:33 PM Hi - this is my first time posting, or in a long time, so I hope I am Replying to the correct person. Jeanne - I had scoliosis surgery at Rush also by Dr. DeWald. My surgery was in 1974, and I turned 50 last year. I don't remember by curvature degrees but I think one was in the 70's. Like you, I had mostly stiffness problems, though there were times when my back went " out " and I'd have to lie on the floor for a day... Then last year the pain & stiffness got worse and I finally went to a specialist. I wasn't able to walk more than a block without sitting down to rest. Even though I'm overweight I had always been able to walk as long as I wanted to. Turns out I have spondylolthesis, which is a lower vertibrae out of place. Because all the others were fused that one vertibrae was/is the only one that moves and taking all the stress. I had 6 weeks of physical therapy and it was much better -- but I have trouble keeping up with excercizing on my own though I know I need to. The spine surgeon said the only " cure " would be fusion, which I don't want. He said it is very common in people years after the original surgery. Not sure if it is specific to Harrington Rods or not. He trained under the younger Dr. DeWald -- make me feel really OLD! Email me if you'd like to compare further notes. I had a body cast for 9 months, back in the day. I don't regret the surgery & it's hard to believe your friend has been ok without it! I was told I'd be in a wheelchair, most likely, if I didn't have it. As to the new member, your pain is most likely in part due to using muscles on one side more to compensate for the other side. But DO see a specialist. Ruth > > Hi Kristie, > > I am a soon to be 50 year-old-woman who had Harrington Rod surgery for scoliosis back in 1977. My curve was 50 degrees and I am now fused from T6 to L3 with a curve of 15 degrees. It was a very painful surgery and I was hospitalized for two weeks and wore a body cast for seven months that completely covered my torso. I was operated on at Rush Presbyterian- St Lukes Medical Center by Dr. DeWald. He has since retired, but his son works in the same field at the same hospital. > > I have to say that for most of the 30+ years since my surgery I have been able to do pretty much everything I wanted. From water skiing, hiking, and having three children. Most of the time the discomfort I felt was some stiffness in my lower back that would ease if I did regular stretching. I did have a few incidents with severe back pain at times, but they were few and I always recovered quickly. > > Unfortunately, I have been having increasing pain for the past 2 - 3 years which has grown to be a chronic problem. I have an appointment on April 17th with a spine specialist to see if they can tell me why I am having this pain. From the research I have done recently on line, the Harrington rod surgery is now considered faulty and is no longer used. I am trying to learn what I can about this before I see this doctor so I can ask the correct questions. > > I also have a close friend who did not have surgery, she's now in her late 40's. Her mother and her two sisters all have scoliosis and non have had surgical corrections. They stay fit and exercise. My friend's curve is quite significant, probably at least 50 degrees or more. She's had two children and says she has no pain. Her curve is not progressing any longer, so she feels quite content to just leave it alone. > > Making the decision to have surgery is not an easy one and should not be done until you have seen at least 3 specialists. In the United States there are several states that have top notch doctors. You should check out the following websites for more information: > > http://www.scoliosi<http://www.scoliosi /> s-assoc.org/ > > http://www.scoliosi<http://www.scoliosi /> s.org/ > > http://www.mayoclin<http://www.mayoclin /> ic.com/health/ scoliosis/ DS00194/DSECTION =coping-and- support > > These sites can help you find other groups and the doctors that may help you make a decision about what treatment is best for you. Speaking for myself only, I would look for non-surgical remedies, but ask reputable doctors about those types of options. If it seems that surgery is the best option, please know that there have been great advances in the surgeries they do now and they know how to avoid many of the complications that came with the type of surgery I had. > > Even with the pain I now have, I am active and do not regret the surgery. My curve was getting worse quickly and I was already 17 years old so bracing was not an option. My parents did what they thought was best and I have done very well since then. > > Good luck to you and please feel free to ask me any questions you might have. > > Jeanne S. > > Hello, new member with some questions > > > Hello everyone, > > I am a new member to this group, and have to say that I am forever grateful to have found you guys. > > Several years ago I was diagnosed with scoliosis on my upper spine and lower, and yes it is inherited. I have several questions that I am hoping some of you can answer for me is possible. > > My grandmother has severe scoliosis, so much that her left rib cage is now going over her hip bone. I do not want to grow old this way. Is there something that I can do now in order to slow the progression of this or are there surgery options? I cant sit for very long periods of time, my back always hurts, and I have severe muscle pain at times, and my doctors cant seem to find out the cause (they think that its all in my head). Second question, would I see a specialist? If so, what type of specialist? I dont know where to start and or what can help me. But I am aware that the older I get the worse my back is and the worse that I am humping over. And I am only 31. > > If any of you couold offer some advice, it would much appreciated. Thanks to all! > > Kristie J > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Oh brother, Jeanne, Not 'EMT!' But EMG! Lj From: r8mell <r8mell (DOT) com<mailto:r8mell@ . com>> Subject: Re: Hello, new member with some questions Scoliosis Treatment<mailto:Scoliosi s-Medical@ groups. com> Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 7:33 PM Hi - this is my first time posting, or in a long time, so I hope I am Replying to the correct person. Jeanne - I had scoliosis surgery at Rush also by Dr. DeWald. My surgery was in 1974, and I turned 50 last year. I don't remember by curvature degrees but I think one was in the 70's. Like you, I had mostly stiffness problems, though there were times when my back went " out " and I'd have to lie on the floor for a day... Then last year the pain & stiffness got worse and I finally went to a specialist. I wasn't able to walk more than a block without sitting down to rest. Even though I'm overweight I had always been able to walk as long as I wanted to. Turns out I have spondylolthesis, which is a lower vertibrae out of place. Because all the others were fused that one vertibrae was/is the only one that moves and taking all the stress. I had 6 weeks of physical therapy and it was much better -- but I have trouble keeping up with excercizing on my own though I know I need to. The spine surgeon said the only " cure " would be fusion, which I don't want. He said it is very common in people years after the original surgery. Not sure if it is specific to Harrington Rods or not. He trained under the younger Dr. DeWald -- make me feel really OLD! Email me if you'd like to compare further notes. I had a body cast for 9 months, back in the day. I don't regret the surgery & it's hard to believe your friend has been ok without it! I was told I'd be in a wheelchair, most likely, if I didn't have it. As to the new member, your pain is most likely in part due to using muscles on one side more to compensate for the other side. But DO see a specialist. Ruth > > Hi Kristie, > > I am a soon to be 50 year-old-woman who had Harrington Rod surgery for scoliosis back in 1977. My curve was 50 degrees and I am now fused from T6 to L3 with a curve of 15 degrees. It was a very painful surgery and I was hospitalized for two weeks and wore a body cast for seven months that completely covered my torso. I was operated on at Rush Presbyterian- St Lukes Medical Center by Dr. DeWald. He has since retired, but his son works in the same field at the same hospital. > > I have to say that for most of the 30+ years since my surgery I have been able to do pretty much everything I wanted. From water skiing, hiking, and having three children. Most of the time the discomfort I felt was some stiffness in my lower back that would ease if I did regular stretching. I did have a few incidents with severe back pain at times, but they were few and I always recovered quickly. > > Unfortunately, I have been having increasing pain for the past 2 - 3 years which has grown to be a chronic problem. I have an appointment on April 17th with a spine specialist to see if they can tell me why I am having this pain. From the research I have done recently on line, the Harrington rod surgery is now considered faulty and is no longer used. I am trying to learn what I can about this before I see this doctor so I can ask the correct questions. > > I also have a close friend who did not have surgery, she's now in her late 40's. Her mother and her two sisters all have scoliosis and non have had surgical corrections. They stay fit and exercise. My friend's curve is quite significant, probably at least 50 degrees or more. She's had two children and says she has no pain. Her curve is not progressing any longer, so she feels quite content to just leave it alone. > > Making the decision to have surgery is not an easy one and should not be done until you have seen at least 3 specialists. In the United States there are several states that have top notch doctors. You should check out the following websites for more information: > > http://www.scoliosi<http://www.scoliosi /> s-assoc.org/ > > http://www.scoliosi<http://www.scoliosi /> s.org/ > > http://www.mayoclin<http://www.mayoclin /> ic.com/health/ scoliosis/ DS00194/DSECTION =coping-and- support > > These sites can help you find other groups and the doctors that may help you make a decision about what treatment is best for you. Speaking for myself only, I would look for non-surgical remedies, but ask reputable doctors about those types of options. If it seems that surgery is the best option, please know that there have been great advances in the surgeries they do now and they know how to avoid many of the complications that came with the type of surgery I had. > > Even with the pain I now have, I am active and do not regret the surgery. My curve was getting worse quickly and I was already 17 years old so bracing was not an option. My parents did what they thought was best and I have done very well since then. > > Good luck to you and please feel free to ask me any questions you might have. > > Jeanne S. > > Hello, new member with some questions > > > Hello everyone, > > I am a new member to this group, and have to say that I am forever grateful to have found you guys. > > Several years ago I was diagnosed with scoliosis on my upper spine and lower, and yes it is inherited. I have several questions that I am hoping some of you can answer for me is possible. > > My grandmother has severe scoliosis, so much that her left rib cage is now going over her hip bone. I do not want to grow old this way. Is there something that I can do now in order to slow the progression of this or are there surgery options? I cant sit for very long periods of time, my back always hurts, and I have severe muscle pain at times, and my doctors cant seem to find out the cause (they think that its all in my head). Second question, would I see a specialist? If so, what type of specialist? I dont know where to start and or what can help me. But I am aware that the older I get the worse my back is and the worse that I am humping over. And I am only 31. > > If any of you couold offer some advice, it would much appreciated. Thanks to all! > > Kristie J > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Thanks! Jeanne Hello, new member with some questions > > > Hello everyone, > > I am a new member to this group, and have to say that I am forever grateful to have found you guys. > > Several years ago I was diagnosed with scoliosis on my upper spine and lower, and yes it is inherited. I have several questions that I am hoping some of you can answer for me is possible. > > My grandmother has severe scoliosis, so much that her left rib cage is now going over her hip bone. I do not want to grow old this way. Is there something that I can do now in order to slow the progression of this or are there surgery options? I cant sit for very long periods of time, my back always hurts, and I have severe muscle pain at times, and my doctors cant seem to find out the cause (they think that its all in my head). Second question, would I see a specialist? If so, what type of specialist? I dont know where to start and or what can help me. But I am aware that the older I get the worse my back is and the worse that I am humping over. And I am only 31. > > If any of you couold offer some advice, it would much appreciated. Thanks to all! > > Kristie J > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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