Guest guest Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 Yes. At least 4% will end up with some complication or infection post op. We were told this by more than one surgeon. That is not always the fault of the surgeon. I just has a daughter die of sepsis 1 1/2 years post op. She presented with an infection of her spinal cord 1day post op and it was let go for 8 months. She was treated three times in that 8 months for pneumonia I knew all along the infection was in her spine. ANo one would believe me until she began showing signs of nerve damage. Her incision healed up beautifully and I think that is one of the reasons they refused to believe the infection was in her spine. We finally got a consult 100 miles from our home and the surgeon right away believed me and scheduled her for removal of her hardware. We had to wait three weeks to get on the surgery schedule and the day before surgery the bottom portion opened and began to drain. When she was opened up there was infection in the spinal nerves, and around the rods and in the holes the wires and screws were. It also was in her deep tissues. She survived this only to have the infection remain dormant in the deep tissues in spite of having been on IV antibiotics for several months after the hardware removal. We were told that there was a good possibility that if she were to have surgery it could kill her from sepsis. Well, she caught the flu. We went to the doctor and labs were drawn on Thurs , no sign of infection and by Fri she was sleeping a lot which I wasn't too concerned about having the flu. By Fri evening she was in a coma and died in the wee hours of Saturday am. The surgeon who did the rod removal is one of the best in WI and just the day prior to my daughters rod removal had another little girl died from infection who he had done surgery on two days before. You see most of us have staph on our skin and just by the very act of cutting into the skin can get an infection. It is not always the fault of the surgeon. Amber was 17. Virginia -- Scoliosis Surgery Complications I have been reviewing the malpractice files of some of the surgeons I am considering doing my son's surgery. While I am asking for your feedback, please understand that I don't feel comfortable sharing the names of the doctors I am referring to. I hope you all understand and are not put off by that. It is public information that you can get on your own if you need to. One showed a 17 year old boy who died from 'an acute episode of unknown origin related to the surgery' following surgery for scoliosis and one showed a child who had serious medical problems going into the surgery winding up with partial paralysis. This stuff is scaring me so! I am vascillating between using a doctor who has done less scoliosis surgeries (25 per year) and who has no malpractice record and a surgeon who does many many more per year but has had some alarming malpractice cases. Another one (the one with the partial paralysis) had just that one case. There are two more doctors I am waiting to get the reports on. Have you heard of people dying from this surgery or winding up paralyzed? Thanks for any feedback you can share. __________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. http://travel./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Virginia, my heart goes out to you. I am so sorry for your loss. How did you know there was an one day post op? What were her symptoms? I wish there was something I could do or say for you. Is there anything doctors or hospitals can do...precautions to take to prevent these things from happening? --- Virginia <angelcare1@...> wrote: > Yes. At least 4% will end up with some complication > or infection post op. > We were told this by more than one surgeon. That is > not always the fault of > the surgeon. I just has a daughter die of sepsis 1 > 1/2 years post op. She > presented with an infection of her spinal cord 1day > post op and it was let > go for 8 months. She was treated three times in > that 8 months for pneumonia > I knew all along the infection was in her spine. > ANo one would believe me > until she began showing signs of nerve damage. Her > incision healed up > beautifully and I think that is one of the reasons > they refused to believe > the infection was in her spine. We finally got a > consult 100 miles from our > home and the surgeon right away believed me and > scheduled her for removal of > her hardware. We had to wait three weeks to get on > the surgery schedule and > the day before surgery the bottom portion opened and > began to drain. When > she was opened up there was infection in the spinal > nerves, and around the > rods and in the holes the wires and screws were. It > also was in her deep > tissues. She survived this only to have the > infection remain dormant in the > deep tissues in spite of having been on IV > antibiotics for several months > after the hardware removal. We were told that there > was a good possibility > that if she were to have surgery it could kill her > from sepsis. Well, she > caught the flu. We went to the doctor and labs were > drawn on Thurs , no > sign of infection and by Fri she was sleeping a lot > which I wasn't too > concerned about having the flu. By Fri evening she > was in a coma and died > in the wee hours of Saturday am. > The surgeon who did the rod removal is one of the > best in WI and just the > day prior to my daughters rod removal had another > little girl died from > infection who he had done surgery on two days > before. You see most of us > have staph on our skin and just by the very act of > cutting into the skin can > get an infection. It is not always the fault of the > surgeon. Amber was 17. > Virginia > > -- Scoliosis Surgery > Complications > > I have been reviewing the malpractice files of some > of > the surgeons I am considering doing my son's > surgery. > > While I am asking for your feedback, please > understand > that I don't feel comfortable sharing the names of > the > doctors I am referring to. I hope you all understand > and are not put off by that. It is public > information > that you can get on your own if you need to. > > One showed a 17 year old boy who died from 'an acute > episode of unknown origin related to the surgery' > following surgery for scoliosis and one showed a > child > who had serious medical problems going into the > surgery winding up with partial paralysis. > > This stuff is scaring me so! > > I am vascillating between using a doctor who has > done > less scoliosis surgeries (25 per year) and who has > no > malpractice record and a surgeon who does many many > more per year but has had some alarming malpractice > cases. > > Another one (the one with the partial paralysis) had > just that one case. > > There are two more doctors I am waiting to get the > reports on. > > Have you heard of people dying from this surgery or > winding up paralyzed? > > Thanks for any feedback you can share. > > > __________________________________________________________ > Need a vacation? Get great deals > to amazing places on Travel. > http://travel./ > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Thank you so much. I knew there WAs an infection 1 day post op due to her symptoms. I am a nurse. She was running a temp and posturing (arching) like a person with spinal meningitis. . They were unable to control her pain even with the epidural and she couldn't feel her feet at one time and then at others they were overly sensitive. Virginia -- Scoliosis Surgery > Complications > > I have been reviewing the malpractice files of some > of > the surgeons I am considering doing my son's > surgery. > > While I am asking for your feedback, please > understand > that I don't feel comfortable sharing the names of > the > doctors I am referring to. I hope you all understand > and are not put off by that. It is public > information > that you can get on your own if you need to. > > One showed a 17 year old boy who died from 'an acute > episode of unknown origin related to the surgery' > following surgery for scoliosis and one showed a > child > who had serious medical problems going into the > surgery winding up with partial paralysis. > > This stuff is scaring me so! > > I am vascillating between using a doctor who has > done > less scoliosis surgeries (25 per year) and who has > no > malpractice record and a surgeon who does many many > more per year but has had some alarming malpractice > cases. > > Another one (the one with the partial paralysis) had > just that one case. > > There are two more doctors I am waiting to get the > reports on. > > Have you heard of people dying from this surgery or > winding up paralyzed? > > Thanks for any feedback you can share. > > > __________________________________________________________ > Need a vacation? Get great deals > to amazing places on Travel. > http://travel./ > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 Gail, I can understand why you are so scared. This is your child you are concerned about taking care of, and rightfully so! In my opinion I would go with the surgeon who has LOTS of experience. Many, MANY scoliosis cases each year, even if he/she has a complicaion resulting from their surgery. The better the doctor is, the more surgeries the doctor does, and the more challenging cases the doctor gets. If a person is more sick going into the surgery (even if they don't know it) the more risk they have of complications resulting from the surgery. I would not want someone to do surgery on me, or my child who only performed a few surgeries a year because they may not know the best techniques, be rusty on techniques, and is probably not an " expert " on scoliosis (being a back doctor does not give one the title of scoliosis surgeon). If you still don't feel comfortable with any of these surgeons, keep looking for other doctors to do the surgery. Don't stop until you feel that you have the best doctor for your son. (I am not a part of this hospital and have not used it for myself. I have just heard numerous good things about it). If you are near a Shriners childrens hospital you might consider checking into their facilities. They are an orthopedic hospital that is free to all patients (all money is fundraised by the Shrine Men). As long as he is in their system by age 18 they will treat him until he is 21. Good luck. > > I have been reviewing the malpractice files of some of > the surgeons I am considering doing my son's surgery. > > While I am asking for your feedback, please understand > that I don't feel comfortable sharing the names of the > doctors I am referring to. I hope you all understand > and are not put off by that. It is public information > that you can get on your own if you need to. > > One showed a 17 year old boy who died from 'an acute > episode of unknown origin related to the surgery' > following surgery for scoliosis and one showed a child > who had serious medical problems going into the > surgery winding up with partial paralysis. > > This stuff is scaring me so! > > I am vascillating between using a doctor who has done > less scoliosis surgeries (25 per year) and who has no > malpractice record and a surgeon who does many many > more per year but has had some alarming malpractice > cases. > > Another one (the one with the partial paralysis) had > just that one case. > > There are two more doctors I am waiting to get the > reports on. > > Have you heard of people dying from this surgery or > winding up paralyzed? > > Thanks for any feedback you can share. > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Need a vacation? Get great deals > to amazing places on Travel. > http://travel./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2007 Report Share Posted September 2, 2007 They didn't do anything to check for what you were seeing? Could they have done blood work or something for check for infection? You must be livid, aside from your grief. --- Virginia <angelcare1@...> wrote: > Thank you so much. I knew there WAs an infection 1 > day post op due to her > symptoms. I am a nurse. She was running a temp and > posturing (arching) > like a person with spinal meningitis. . They were > unable to control her > pain even with the epidural and she couldn't feel > her feet at one time and > then at others they were overly sensitive. > Virginia > > -- Scoliosis Surgery > > Complications > > > > I have been reviewing the malpractice files of > some > > of > > the surgeons I am considering doing my son's > > surgery. > > > > While I am asking for your feedback, please > > understand > > that I don't feel comfortable sharing the names of > > > the > > doctors I am referring to. I hope you all > understand > > and are not put off by that. It is public > > information > > that you can get on your own if you need to. > > > > One showed a 17 year old boy who died from 'an > acute > > episode of unknown origin related to the surgery' > > following surgery for scoliosis and one showed a > > child > > who had serious medical problems going into the > > surgery winding up with partial paralysis. > > > > This stuff is scaring me so! > > > > I am vascillating between using a doctor who has > > done > > less scoliosis surgeries (25 per year) and who has > > > no > > malpractice record and a surgeon who does many > many > > more per year but has had some alarming > malpractice > > cases. > > > > Another one (the one with the partial paralysis) > had > > just that one case. > > > > There are two more doctors I am waiting to get the > > > reports on. > > > > Have you heard of people dying from this surgery > or > > winding up paralyzed? > > > > Thanks for any feedback you can share. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals > > to amazing places on Travel. > > http://travel./ > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you > sell. > http://searchmarketing./ > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Thanks so much . I thought if he was 18 at the time he entered the Shriner system it was too late. Do you know if Shriners in Philly is the better of all the Shriners or that any Shriners hospital and their doctors is equally as good? --- luv2icesk8lots <luv2icesk8lots@...> wrote: > Gail, > I can understand why you are so scared. This is your > child you are > concerned about taking care of, and rightfully so! > In my opinion I would go with the surgeon who has > LOTS of experience. > Many, MANY scoliosis cases each year, even if he/she > has a > complicaion resulting from their surgery. The better > the doctor is, > the more surgeries the doctor does, and the more > challenging cases > the doctor gets. If a person is more sick going into > the surgery > (even if they don't know it) the more risk they have > of complications > resulting from the surgery. > I would not want someone to do surgery on me, or my > child who only > performed a few surgeries a year because they may > not know the best > techniques, be rusty on techniques, and is probably > not an " expert " > on scoliosis (being a back doctor does not give one > the title of > scoliosis surgeon). > If you still don't feel comfortable with any of > these surgeons, keep > looking for other doctors to do the surgery. Don't > stop until you > feel that you have the best doctor for your son. (I > am not a part of > this hospital and have not used it for myself. I > have just heard > numerous good things about it). If you are near a > Shriners childrens > hospital you might consider checking into their > facilities. They are > an orthopedic hospital that is free to all patients > (all money is > fundraised by the Shrine Men). As long as he is in > their system by > age 18 they will treat him until he is 21. > Good luck. > > > > > > > I have been reviewing the malpractice files of > some of > > the surgeons I am considering doing my son's > surgery. > > > > While I am asking for your feedback, please > understand > > that I don't feel comfortable sharing the names of > the > > doctors I am referring to. I hope you all > understand > > and are not put off by that. It is public > information > > that you can get on your own if you need to. > > > > One showed a 17 year old boy who died from 'an > acute > > episode of unknown origin related to the surgery' > > following surgery for scoliosis and one showed a > child > > who had serious medical problems going into the > > surgery winding up with partial paralysis. > > > > This stuff is scaring me so! > > > > I am vascillating between using a doctor who has > done > > less scoliosis surgeries (25 per year) and who has > no > > malpractice record and a surgeon who does many > many > > more per year but has had some alarming > malpractice > > cases. > > > > Another one (the one with the partial paralysis) > had > > just that one case. > > > > There are two more doctors I am waiting to get the > > reports on. > > > > Have you heard of people dying from this surgery > or > > winding up paralyzed? > > > > Thanks for any feedback you can share. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________ > > Need a vacation? Get great deals > > to amazing places on Travel. > > http://travel./ > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Building a website is a piece of cake. Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness./webhosting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 I just checked the Shriners website again and it says under 18 for eligibility. I am going to call them anyway but I am thinking I will go with the original Dr. as he is most experienced. I will talk with him about my concerns at the next appointment. --- luv2icesk8lots <luv2icesk8lots@...> wrote: > Gail, > I can understand why you are so scared. This is your > child you are > concerned about taking care of, and rightfully so! > In my opinion I would go with the surgeon who has > LOTS of experience. > Many, MANY scoliosis cases each year, even if he/she > has a > complicaion resulting from their surgery. The better > the doctor is, > the more surgeries the doctor does, and the more > challenging cases > the doctor gets. If a person is more sick going into > the surgery > (even if they don't know it) the more risk they have > of complications > resulting from the surgery. > I would not want someone to do surgery on me, or my > child who only > performed a few surgeries a year because they may > not know the best > techniques, be rusty on techniques, and is probably > not an " expert " > on scoliosis (being a back doctor does not give one > the title of > scoliosis surgeon). > If you still don't feel comfortable with any of > these surgeons, keep > looking for other doctors to do the surgery. Don't > stop until you > feel that you have the best doctor for your son. (I > am not a part of > this hospital and have not used it for myself. I > have just heard > numerous good things about it). If you are near a > Shriners childrens > hospital you might consider checking into their > facilities. They are > an orthopedic hospital that is free to all patients > (all money is > fundraised by the Shrine Men). As long as he is in > their system by > age 18 they will treat him until he is 21. > Good luck. > > > > > > > I have been reviewing the malpractice files of > some of > > the surgeons I am considering doing my son's > surgery. > > > > While I am asking for your feedback, please > understand > > that I don't feel comfortable sharing the names of > the > > doctors I am referring to. I hope you all > understand > > and are not put off by that. It is public > information > > that you can get on your own if you need to. > > > > One showed a 17 year old boy who died from 'an > acute > > episode of unknown origin related to the surgery' > > following surgery for scoliosis and one showed a > child > > who had serious medical problems going into the > > surgery winding up with partial paralysis. > > > > This stuff is scaring me so! > > > > I am vascillating between using a doctor who has > done > > less scoliosis surgeries (25 per year) and who has > no > > malpractice record and a surgeon who does many > many > > more per year but has had some alarming > malpractice > > cases. > > > > Another one (the one with the partial paralysis) > had > > just that one case. > > > > There are two more doctors I am waiting to get the > > reports on. > > > > Have you heard of people dying from this surgery > or > > winding up paralyzed? > > > > Thanks for any feedback you can share. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________ > > Need a vacation? Get great deals > > to amazing places on Travel. > > http://travel./ > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games. http://get.games./proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Dear Virginia, I am so sorry to read your story and the terrible time your daughter had. Thank you for being so gracious as to share it with us in hopes of helping someone else- that is the real meaning of giving. God bless you. Bea Virginia <angelcare1@...> wrote: Yes. At least 4% will end up with some complication or infection post op. We were told this by more than one surgeon. That is not always the fault of the surgeon. I just has a daughter die of sepsis 1 1/2 years post op. She presented with an infection of her spinal cord 1day post op and it was let go for 8 months. She was treated three times in that 8 months for pneumonia I knew all along the infection was in her spine. ANo one would believe me until she began showing signs of nerve damage. Her incision healed up beautifully and I think that is one of the reasons they refused to believe the infection was in her spine. We finally got a consult 100 miles from our home and the surgeon right away believed me and scheduled her for removal of her hardware. We had to wait three weeks to get on the surgery schedule and the day before surgery the bottom portion opened and began to drain. When she was opened up there was infection in the spinal nerves, and around the rods and in the holes the wires and screws were. It also was in her deep tissues. She survived this only to have the infection remain dormant in the deep tissues in spite of having been on IV antibiotics for several months after the hardware removal. We were told that there was a good possibility that if she were to have surgery it could kill her from sepsis. Well, she caught the flu. We went to the doctor and labs were drawn on Thurs , no sign of infection and by Fri she was sleeping a lot which I wasn't too concerned about having the flu. By Fri evening she was in a coma and died in the wee hours of Saturday am. The surgeon who did the rod removal is one of the best in WI and just the day prior to my daughters rod removal had another little girl died from infection who he had done surgery on two days before. You see most of us have staph on our skin and just by the very act of cutting into the skin can get an infection. It is not always the fault of the surgeon. Amber was 17. Virginia -- Scoliosis Surgery Complications I have been reviewing the malpractice files of some of the surgeons I am considering doing my son's surgery. While I am asking for your feedback, please understand that I don't feel comfortable sharing the names of the doctors I am referring to. I hope you all understand and are not put off by that. It is public information that you can get on your own if you need to. One showed a 17 year old boy who died from 'an acute episode of unknown origin related to the surgery' following surgery for scoliosis and one showed a child who had serious medical problems going into the surgery winding up with partial paralysis. This stuff is scaring me so! I am vascillating between using a doctor who has done less scoliosis surgeries (25 per year) and who has no malpractice record and a surgeon who does many many more per year but has had some alarming malpractice cases. Another one (the one with the partial paralysis) had just that one case. There are two more doctors I am waiting to get the reports on. Have you heard of people dying from this surgery or winding up paralyzed? Thanks for any feedback you can share. __________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Travel. http://travel./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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