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Hi Judith,Thank you for the explanation. I too, just made dill pickles (with Kirby's), but I have to wait 5 more weeks before I can eat them as I like them really sour. The ones that I bought until the time I can crack open the first of one of my jars, was from the refrigerator case at Whole Foods. Have a great weekend!Yan.From: ohneclue <ohneclue@...>Subject: Re: Are Dill Pickles Allowed? Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 6:45 PM

There are no problems with dill pickles -I pickle my cukes all the time. Dill pickles and dill relish generally do not have any kind of sugars in them so they are legal to use.

Incidently, if you buy the short, squatty, bumpy Kirby kind of cucumbers, they already taste like dill pickles. These are the cucumbers usually used and developed for making into dill pickles.

Pickling spices do not have sugar added to them. They are available in the spice section for anyone to check that they are simply a mixture of spices used in the pickling process.

Sweet Relish, Bread and Butter pickles and Sweet Gerkins are a different thing because they have sugar added to them.

Judith

From: ingrignia johansen <yannaschwab>hcg support <>Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:35:35 PMSubject: Are Dill Pickles Allowed?

Hello,I've been wondering if dill pickles are allowed. The list of vegetables Dr. Simoen allows includes cucumbers. The dill pickles that I have in my house have the following ingredients: Cucumbers, Dill, Pickling spice, Vinegar. It would seem okay to me as there is no sugar and spices are allowed.Anyone have any issues?Kindly,Yan.

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I am sorry that happened to you. We must always read the labels!! I make my own "pickles"but I do have some store bought things (not all of them have sugars) as follows:

Roland Sandwich Dill Toppers, No Carbs, No sugars of any kind (thin lengthwise sliced for sandwiches or putting on top of your meat).

Heinz Dill Relish in a plastic squeeze container, No Carbs, No sugars of any kind (I add it to my tuna or ground chicken for a "salad" type mixture.

Great Value Hamburger Dill Chips, has high fructose corn syrup as the 5th ingredient and 1 carb gram per 3 chips serving size. Don't use these -- they are still hermetically sealed in their glass container.

Vlastic Dill Relish, has some thickener as the 7th ingredient (that yields 1 gram carb per 1 T. serving size) so these are still unopened in their little glass container also.

In comparison, pickle relish or sweet relish has high fructose corn syrup as the 2nd ingredient (after the cucumbers) and yields 4 grams carbs per 1 T as do all the other pickle relishes (except dill) because they are all sweet pickle relishes.

Judith

From: pam <girl1bigheart@...> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 8:07:02 PMSubject: Re: Are Dill Pickles Allowed?

I stalled on them :( store bought pickles are made with sugar

From: ingrignia johansen <yannaschwab>Subject: Are Dill Pickles Allowed?"hcg support" <>Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 11:35 AM

Hello,I've been wondering if dill pickles are allowed. The list of vegetables Dr. Simoen allows includes cucumbers. The dill pickles that I have in my house have the following ingredients: Cucumbers, Dill, Pickling spice, Vinegar. It would seem okay to me as there is no sugar and spices are allowed.Anyone have any issues?Kindly,Yan.

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Yan,

You make your pickles significantly different from my process -- it only takes 10 days and I like them on the 9th when they have more of the crunch of the cucumber in them. I'm not sure I could wait 5 weeks!!

I used to sneak into the crock on day 9 for my favorites. After day 10, mom would put them in jars and "can" them only for the sealing part and we would eat them later. But we always had fresh pickles by the crockful in the summer.

When I was growing up, if there wasn't a pickle crock "working" in the kitchen during the summer and noodle dough drying on the back of the clean sheet covered sofa in the living room during the winder, I was in the wrong house.

Judith

From: ingrignia johansen <yannaschwab@...> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 8:19:17 AMSubject: Re: Are Dill Pickles Allowed?

Hi Judith,Thank you for the explanation. I too, just made dill pickles (with Kirby's), but I have to wait 5 more weeks before I can eat them as I like them really sour. The ones that I bought until the time I can crack open the first of one of my jars, was from the refrigerator case at Whole Foods. Have a great weekend!Yan.

From: ohneclue <ohneclue (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Are Dill Pickles Allowed?Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 6:45 PM

There are no problems with dill pickles -I pickle my cukes all the time. Dill pickles and dill relish generally do not have any kind of sugars in them so they are legal to use.

Incidently, if you buy the short, squatty, bumpy Kirby kind of cucumbers, they already taste like dill pickles. These are the cucumbers usually used and developed for making into dill pickles.

Pickling spices do not have sugar added to them. They are available in the spice section for anyone to check that they are simply a mixture of spices used in the pickling process.

Sweet Relish, Bread and Butter pickles and Sweet Gerkins are a different thing because they have sugar added to them.

Judith

From: ingrignia johansen <yannaschwab>hcg support <>Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:35:35 PMSubject: Are Dill Pickles Allowed?

Hello,I've been wondering if dill pickles are allowed. The list of vegetables Dr. Simoen allows includes cucumbers. The dill pickles that I have in my house have the following ingredients: Cucumbers, Dill, Pickling spice, Vinegar. It would seem okay to me as there is no sugar and spices are allowed.Anyone have any issues?Kindly,Yan.

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I'm eating pickles too. I just make sure that there is no sugar in them. The diet says you can have vinegar and spices.

From: ingrignia johansen <yannaschwab@...>hcg support < >Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:35:35 PMSubject: Are Dill Pickles Allowed?

Hello,I've been wondering if dill pickles are allowed. The list of vegetables Dr. Simoen allows includes cucumbers. The dill pickles that I have in my house have the following ingredients: Cucumbers, Dill, Pickling spice, Vinegar. It would seem okay to me as there is no sugar and spices are allowed.Anyone have any issues?Kindly,Yan.

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I don't know if pickles will make you stall or not. I'm sure it's individual.

It's not on the list, so... I slice my cucumbers and squeeze 1/2 a lemon juice

on them and sprinkle with salt. It's not a pickle but it's good, crunchy and a

little tart. Totally Dr. Simeon's protocol. Try it.

Mel

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> I'm eating pickles too. I just make sure that there is no sugar in them. The

diet says you can have vinegar and spices.

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> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:35:35 PM

> Subject: Are Dill Pickles Allowed?

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> Hello,

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> I've been wondering if dill pickles are allowed. The list of vegetables Dr.

Simoen allows includes cucumbers. The dill pickles that I have in my house have

the following ingredients: Cucumbers, Dill, Pickling spice, Vinegar. It would

seem okay to me as there is no sugar and spices are allowed.

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> Anyone have any issues?

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> Kindly,

> Yan.

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Hello Judith,I believe we grew up in the same household:) My father would make gallons of dill pickles and crocks of sauerkraut. He learned how to make refrigerator pickles and my sisters and I ate through them. He went to go check on them after 5 weeks and a quarter of the pickles were gone. He then sneakily added jalapeno peppers to each jar, thinking he would slow down the rate at which we were devouring them. We told him one day, "We don't know what you did to those pickles, but they are even better than when they started, they're really spicy!"By the way, I think the pickles aren't such a good idea. I felt really bloated yesterday after eating them, and I think it was the salt in them. Today I had a 1 pound gain. That's okay though, because I only have 9 more days to go on Round 2 and then I

can resume eating my favorite pickled vegetables!Of course, I'm going to 'test' the pickles after 10 days and see if there is a difference between 10 days and 5 weeks:)-Yan

From: ohneclue <ohneclue (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Are Dill Pickles Allowed?Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 6:45 PM

There are no problems with dill pickles -I pickle my cukes all the time. Dill pickles and dill relish generally do not have any kind of sugars in them so they are legal to use.

Incidently, if you buy the short, squatty, bumpy Kirby kind of cucumbers, they already taste like dill pickles. These are the cucumbers usually used and developed for making into dill pickles.

Pickling spices do not have sugar added to them. They are available in the spice section for anyone to check that they are simply a mixture of spices used in the pickling process.

Sweet Relish, Bread and Butter pickles and Sweet Gerkins are a different thing because they have sugar added to them.

Judith

From: ingrignia johansen <yannaschwab>hcg support <>Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:35:35 PMSubject: Are Dill Pickles Allowed?

Hello,I've been wondering if dill pickles are allowed. The list of vegetables Dr. Simoen allows includes cucumbers. The dill pickles that I have in my house have the following ingredients: Cucumbers, Dill, Pickling spice, Vinegar. It would seem okay to me as there is no sugar and spices are allowed.Anyone have any issues?Kindly,Yan.

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Yan,

Oh, so sorry to hear you gained a pound. Yes the salt can definitely be a problem but I don't add any salt other than 1 Tbsp to a crock because my family never really used a lot of salt for the pickles. But we certainly loaded up on the dill sprigs and garlic cloves!!

I could do the jalapeños as well. In fact, in Mexico, they stuff and can jalapeños with tuna, picadillo (spiced ground beef) and cheese. Those are pretty good and I must might try adding a little of them to my pickles.

We weren't as big on the sauerkraut but I do love my Kimchee -- green onion as well as radish and cabbage ones. There's a Korean grocery in Dallas and they make about 6 different Kimchees that I really like, green onion being my favorite.

Judith

From: ingrignia johansen <yannaschwab@...> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 3:36:15 PMSubject: Re: Are Dill Pickles Allowed?

Hello Judith,I believe we grew up in the same household:) My father would make gallons of dill pickles and crocks of sauerkraut. He learned how to make refrigerator pickles and my sisters and I ate through them. He went to go check on them after 5 weeks and a quarter of the pickles were gone. He then sneakily added jalapeno peppers to each jar, thinking he would slow down the rate at which we were devouring them. We told him one day, "We don't know what you did to those pickles, but they are even better than when they started, they're really spicy!"By the way, I think the pickles aren't such a good idea. I felt really bloated yesterday after eating them, and I think it was the salt in them. Today I had a 1 pound gain. That's okay though, because I only have 9 more days to go on Round 2 and then I can resume eating my favorite pickled vegetables!Of course, I'm going to

'test' the pickles after 10 days and see if there is a difference between 10 days and 5 weeks:)-Yan

From: ohneclue <ohneclue (DOT) com>Subject: Re: Are Dill Pickles Allowed?Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 6:45 PM

There are no problems with dill pickles -I pickle my cukes all the time. Dill pickles and dill relish generally do not have any kind of sugars in them so they are legal to use.

Incidently, if you buy the short, squatty, bumpy Kirby kind of cucumbers, they already taste like dill pickles. These are the cucumbers usually used and developed for making into dill pickles.

Pickling spices do not have sugar added to them. They are available in the spice section for anyone to check that they are simply a mixture of spices used in the pickling process.

Sweet Relish, Bread and Butter pickles and Sweet Gerkins are a different thing because they have sugar added to them.

Judith

From: ingrignia johansen <yannaschwab>hcg support <>Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:35:35 PMSubject: Are Dill Pickles Allowed?

Hello,I've been wondering if dill pickles are allowed. The list of vegetables Dr. Simoen allows includes cucumbers. The dill pickles that I have in my house have the following ingredients: Cucumbers, Dill, Pickling spice, Vinegar. It would seem okay to me as there is no sugar and spices are allowed.Anyone have any issues?Kindly,Yan.

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Enjoyed reading that! Noodles were often drying in my house as well. I loved making them when I was first married. When I get to p4, I might try making some out of whole wheat (for the family). And getting to taste a couple in p4 sounds interesting to do. I do not miss anything like that though, far as eating it

chantelle

On 7/24/09 9:32 AM, " ohneclue " <ohneclue@...> wrote:

Yan,

You make your pickles significantly different from my process -- it only takes 10 days and I like them on the 9th when they have more of the crunch of the cucumber in them. I'm not sure I could wait 5 weeks!!

I used to sneak into the crock on day 9 for my favorites. After day 10, mom would put them in jars and " can " them only for the sealing part and we would eat them later. But we always had fresh pickles by the crockful in the summer.

When I was growing up, if there wasn't a pickle crock " working " in the kitchen during the summer and noodle dough drying on the back of the clean sheet covered sofa in the living room during the winder, I was in the wrong house.

Judith

From: ingrignia johansen <yannaschwab@...>

Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 8:19:17 AM

Subject: Re: Are Dill Pickles Allowed?

Hi Judith,

Thank you for the explanation. I too, just made dill pickles (with Kirby's), but I have to wait 5 more weeks before I can eat them as I like them really sour. The ones that I bought until the time I can crack open the first of one of my jars, was from the refrigerator case at Whole Foods.

Have a great weekend!

Yan.

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Subject: Re: Are Dill Pickles Allowed?

Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 6:45 PM

There are no problems with dill pickles -I pickle my cukes all the time. Dill pickles and dill relish generally do not have any kind of sugars in them so they are legal to use.

Incidently, if you buy the short, squatty, bumpy Kirby kind of cucumbers, they already taste like dill pickles. These are the cucumbers usually used and developed for making into dill pickles.

Pickling spices do not have sugar added to them. They are available in the spice section for anyone to check that they are simply a mixture of spices used in the pickling process.

Sweet Relish, Bread and Butter pickles and Sweet Gerkins are a different thing because they have sugar added to them.

Judith

From: ingrignia johansen <yannaschwab <http:///> >

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Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:35:35 PM

Subject: Are Dill Pickles Allowed?

Hello,

I've been wondering if dill pickles are allowed. The list of vegetables Dr. Simoen allows includes cucumbers. The dill pickles that I have in my house have the following ingredients: Cucumbers, Dill, Pickling spice, Vinegar. It would seem okay to me as there is no sugar and spices are allowed.

Anyone have any issues?

Kindly,

Yan.

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Chantelle,

And now you can make the spinach and "dried" tomato as well by blending up spinach or tomato paste in the water. I don't really miss noodles as much as I miss having my mother around in the kitchen and life.She was one of the good ones for sure.

Also, our noodle soup as made by my mother did not have a lot of broth to it. Just enough to pressure cook the beef stew pieces and then add enough water to that just to cover the noodles for cooking. It really WAS noodle soup!! Mostly noodles, beef tips and enough broth to sort of allow things to swim a bit in shallow water in the bowl.

We also had knebbles (another quick noodle-type dough ball) and rivvels (ribbles) that are still found in Pennsylvania Dutch cookbooks and restaurants occasionally. My daughter loved those and still cooks them to this day as do I. Ahhh, the food of our youth made by our mothers.

Judith

From: Chantelle <tgbtg@...> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:23:30 AMSubject: Re: Are Dill Pickles Allowed?

Enjoyed reading that! Noodles were often drying in my house as well. I loved making them when I was first married. When I get to p4, I might try making some out of whole wheat (for the family). And getting to taste a couple in p4 sounds interesting to do. I do not miss anything like that though, far as eating itchantelleReply (via web post) | Start a new topic

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