RE: Re: WAs, no subject at all, now, try being helpful.

[Guest guest]

And next time you allude to being helpful, try putting in an actual subject

so people will know whether or not they want to read it.

What a strange and non-helpful comment to make! Why are you here? To simply

try to start issues where none are exist? To try and cause trouble?

Obviously the internet has changed pretty much every faucet of our lives and

has made things accessible to people that would not otherwise have a choice.

What could possibly be off protocol about having an online support group or

someone coaching you? That's not off protocol.

What about you? Are you even doing the protocol? Have you ever? Do you do it

properly? What's your purpose here? Certainly doesn't appear to me that

you're here to help anyone.

Get over yourself with your off-putting and condescending attitude and try

to be helpful instead of stirring things up.

Terri R.

Re:

>

>

> OK Fair enough.

>

> Now how many of you are doing this on your own?

>

> The protocol was written to be a patient and a Doctor.

>

> So how many of you have varied from the protocol and are not with a

Doctor?

>

> Just Sayin...

>

>

> >

> > My question is why are you *looking* for ways to cheat/eat off

protocol?? We

> > KNOW the protocol works as written. It's prescriptive protocol and not

meant

> > to be played with or making creative changes. Simeons DID in fact say

that

> > chicken breast did NOT include other fowl so.... Just sayin'.

> > Even though there might not have been Ostrich burgers in Simeons time,

there

> > were MANY choices in all categories that have the same nutritional

make-up

> > or even less as far as fats, cholesterol, sugars, starches, etc etc.

> > *Doesn't matter*.

> >

> > Dr Simeons in fact stated...

> >

> > " In treating obesity with the HCG + diet method we are handling what is

> > perhaps the most complex organ in the human body. The diencephalon's

> > functional equilibrium is delicately poised, so that " whatever happens

in

> > one part has repercussions in others. In obesity this balance is out of

> > kilter and can only be restored if the technique I am about to describe

is

> > followed implicitly. Even seemingly insignificant deviations,

particularly

> > those that at first sight seem to be an improvement, are very liable to

> > produce most disappointing results and even annul the effect

completely. "

> >

> > See those words in there that say " follow implicitly " ? Please read that

> > sentence again: " Even seemingly insignificant deviations, particularly

> > those that at first sight seem to be an improvement, are very liable to

> > produce most disappointing results and even annul the effect

completely. "

> >

> > This means follow the food list as it is written and don't add anything

like

> > Miracle Noodles, Walden Farms products, coconut oil, cocoa, cocoa

delight,

> > etc.

> >

> > This means get your 500 calories in, even if you aren't hungry, and eat

each

> > food selection on the daily list because this is a MEDICAL PROCEDURE and

the

> > protocol is designed for a balance between carbs, fats, and proteins -

all

> > of these play an important role in the protocol and this balance and the

> > chemical reactions the food does in the body is what is GOING TO CHANGE

YOUR

> > BRAIN. If you leave something off, you're playing with the balance of

the

> > diet. Not eating fruit because you think you are going to lose more

weight

> > is not going to help you stabilize in the end!

> >

> > There will always be some people that just feel a need to try and cheat

the

> > protocol, cut corners, etc etc so they can say " AHA " I did it my way!

> > So ya know... go ahead. No one can stop you. But if you do realize that

just

> > because you may continue to lose weight means nothing! You can lose

weight

> > with pretty much any regular diet.

> >

> > What matters most with this *protocol * < not diet> is to heal and

re-set

> > your hypo so as to be able to maintain your weight losses. If you don't

> > stick to protocol which we KNOW works, and fail to stabilize and

maintain,

> > then you've reduced Dr. Simeons prescriptive protocol to nothing but a

run

> > of the mill, yo-yoing failed diet to add to the LONG list we've all

tried

> > and failed at.

> >

> > I can't/don't and won't understand the need to of to play with this

protocol

> > when there is scientific data and research and tons of case study to

prove

> > it works AS written.

> >

> >

> > Terri R.

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: [mailto: ]

On

> > Behalf Of battery_grip

> > At the risk of being an innovator or cheater I have a question.

> > Now I doubt that in 1950 any one was eating ostrich burgers.

> >

> > But in 2010, Ostrich Burgers are available.

> > http://www.blackwing.com/product_view.php?id=115

> >

> > One 4 oz patty has 110 calories and 23 grams of protein.

> > Although not listed in the Phase 2 of the protocol.

> >

> > Theses patties are comparable to organic skinless chicken breast in

calories

> > and protein.

> >

> > So would I be convicted of cheating here if I one of these for a meat

meal

> > during phase 2?

> >

> > Just Sayin...

> >

>

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