Guest guest Posted December 11, 1999 Report Share Posted December 11, 1999 When I was getting regular Chiropractor sessions, one of the things that they did was massage or stretch the (oh, oh, brain fog here), it was part of the muscle that really hurt. And boy did it hurt!!!! But, it did fell better later, and I was told to drink a lot of water that day and the next, to flush out the toxins. Zazzue http://www.CreativeAddiction.com mailto:Zazzue@... > From: " Jacques & Nelly " <janel@...> > Have any of you the immense luck and priviledge of having a partner (or a > friend)who can give you regular massages. When my whole body is tense, my > neck, my head is sore, I have pain everywhere and I feel yuk all over, he > tries really hard, by massaging the soreness, at making all the tightest > knots go away. It also sometimes helps if he just massages my legs (upwards > to gey more blood flowing. > It helps quite a bit, sometimes with the tighness, sometimes with brainfog > (I get more alert yet more relaxed), some of the aching nearly gone. > It's hard work for him but it's a real life saver for me at times. It lifts > my mood (I think directly bec more blood flows to my brain) but also > indirectly bec I feel so " looked after " . > Could any tell me if massage has helped them as I often feel that I wouldn't > be surviving through these monster Herxes I am experiencing without them > So an enormous THANKS for Jacques: a real hero! > Nelly > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 1999 Report Share Posted December 11, 1999 Dear Nelly & All, I wish I had these massages!! Never had such pain before - in back, neck and going up in back of head, and also under arms and chest. Also gut problems returned. Does this sound like a familiar herx? I didn't even have the penicillin this week and just got back on the flagyl. Doc changed me from prozac to celexa - which caused fainting, but don't know if it can cause pain, and Rx online pharmacy wasn't much help here. DO you take any type of antidepressent for pain? Here is US there are prescribed all the time for pain - and I would just as soon have PAIN med at this point!! I do have neurontin, but I read that it is for seizures rather than pain. Just want right med for specific condition - and really wish I could throw all pills away for good!! Christie >From: " Jacques & Nelly " <janel@...> > >Have any of you the immense luck and priviledge of having a partner (or a >friend)who can give you regular massages. When my whole body is tense, my >neck, my head is sore, I have pain everywhere and I feel yuk all over, he >tries really hard, by massaging the soreness, at making all the tightest >knots go away. (SNIP)I often feel that I wouldn't >be surviving through these monster Herxes I am experiencing without them >So an enormous THANKS for Jacques: a real hero! > >Nelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 1999 Report Share Posted December 12, 1999 Nelly wrote: Have any of you the immense luck and priviledge of having a partner (or a friend)who can give you regular massages. ......SNIP..... Could any tell me if massage has helped them .....SNIP.... Source: http://www.ivanhoe.com/docs/newsflash-wednesday.html#bacteria Jan van Roijen <access@...> ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Massage Helps Chronic Fatigue Symptoms (Sept. 22, 1999) A new study shows massage therapy helps people suffering from chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS). The study was conducted by the Touch Research Institutes at the University of Miami School of Medicine and Nova University Southeastern. It appears in the Journal of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. In the study, 20 patients with CFS were assigned to a group where they received massage therapy or one that didn't. Patients in the test group received massage therapy twice a week for five weeks from a trained massage therapist. The therapy consisted of gentle pressure applied to the legs, arms, head and torso. On the first and last day of treatment, patients rated changes in pain, mood and anxiety. Although the patients' ratings for depression and anxiety were initially as high as in clinically depressed patients, after massage, they rated their pain, depression and anxiety as significantly reduced. In addition, the researchers found decreased cortisol levels in these patients. Cortisol is a " stress hormone " that scientists often monitor to indicate levels of stress or pain. These decreases occurred not only after the first massage, but also over the five-week treatment period. Researchers report more research is needed to confirm the benefits of massage and suggest other measures that should be included in these studies, such as monitoring patients' activity. In the meantime, they conclude massage therapy is a cost-effective way of reducing symptoms associated with CFS and should be considered as a practical treatment option. Source: Touch Research Institute Copyright © 1999 Ivanhoe Broadcast News, Inc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 1999 Report Share Posted December 12, 1999 How would one get a copy of this study ? This would be VERY helpful in arguing with the Insurance companies and the IRS ? Re: Massages >From: Jan van Roijen <access@...> > > >Nelly wrote: > >Have any of you the immense luck and priviledge of having a partner (or a >friend)who can give you regular massages. >.....SNIP..... >Could any tell me if massage has helped them >....SNIP.... > >Source: >http://www.ivanhoe.com/docs/newsflash-wednesday.html#bacteria >Jan van Roijen <access@...> >~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > >Massage Helps Chronic Fatigue Symptoms > >(Sept. 22, 1999) A new study shows massage therapy helps people suffering >from chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS). The study was conducted by the Touch >Research Institutes at the University of Miami School of Medicine and Nova >University Southeastern. It appears in the Journal of Chronic Fatigue >Syndrome. > >In the study, 20 patients with CFS were assigned to a group where they >received massage therapy or one that didn't. Patients in the test group >received massage therapy twice a week for five weeks from a trained >massage therapist. The therapy consisted of gentle pressure applied to the >legs, arms, head and torso. On the first and last day of treatment, patients >rated changes in pain, mood and anxiety. > >Although the patients' ratings for depression and anxiety were initially as >high as in clinically depressed patients, after massage, they rated their >pain, >depression and anxiety as significantly reduced. In addition, the researchers >found decreased cortisol levels in these patients. Cortisol is a " stress >hormone " that scientists often monitor to indicate levels of stress or pain. >These decreases occurred not only after the first massage, but also over the >five-week treatment period. > >Researchers report more research is needed to confirm the benefits of >massage and suggest other measures that should be included in these studies, >such as monitoring patients' activity. In the meantime, they conclude massage >therapy is a cost-effective way of reducing symptoms associated with CFS >and should be considered as a practical treatment option. > >Source: Touch Research Institute >Copyright © 1999 Ivanhoe Broadcast News, Inc. > >>This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 1999 Report Share Posted December 12, 1999 Dear Nelly, My brother picked up a certification in massage therapy as a hobby and he massages my father once or twice a week. In between, my father uses mechanical massage devices wherever he can reach multiple times per day. It is what has made his life managable and his muscles " looser " though not " normal " . On a positive note, my brother says that he needs to do a significantly lesser amount of massage to maintain my father's status now that he is using the magnetic and far infrared sleep system on their bed (this from a very skeptical/analytical brother of mine who did not believe in the products!) The few times I had been able to get my husband to give me a limited massage it felt really good, but he is usually pretty unavailable. I do much better now on the sleep system myself, but it's not a panacea. Hugs, Theresa R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 , I've been having massages for the last 5 months, i've shown them when my pump and scs are, then i let them go to town me! I get more relief from a good massage than any pills, pumps or scs! The only problem is that is short term, so I take what I can get! GO GET A GOOD MASSAGE, YOU WILL LOVE IT! Rob in Idaho Plant <purplebutterfly1@...> wrote: Hello Everyone - I hope you are all doing well. I am wondering has anyone had or been told whether they can have full body massages or not since having the SCS implanted? My therapist stated that my muscles are extremely tight in my low back and that maybe massage would help. I do not know if it is a contraindication or not. If anyone has any information, I would greatly appreciate any help. Take Care, ( Mass.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Rob, Thanks for your information. I was once a massage Therapy student so yes, I love them too. I will definitely be scheduling one!!! Best Wishes. (Mass.) Re: Massages , I've been having massages for the last 5 months, i've shown them when my pump and scs are, then i let them go to town me! I get more relief from a good massage than any pills, pumps or scs! The only problem is that is short term, so I take what I can get! GO GET A GOOD MASSAGE, YOU WILL LOVE IT! Rob in Idaho Plant <purplebutterfly1@...> wrote: Hello Everyone - I hope you are all doing well. I am wondering has anyone had or been told whether they can have full body massages or not since having the SCS implanted? My therapist stated that my muscles are extremely tight in my low back and that maybe massage would help. I do not know if it is a contraindication or not. If anyone has any information, I would greatly appreciate any help. Take Care, ( Mass.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 I have a standing massage and colonic appt. tomorrow and am wondering should I cancel my massages until am done with this round. I will double up on my colonics if I cancel the massages which I think would be GREAT help releasing the toxic wastes. I just started VLCD yesterday tomorrow would be my third day any advice? Thanks, Talya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Dr. Simeons says not to have massages in his Pounds and Inches paper.. Read and you'll find a lot of answers to your questions. I think it's bookmarked at this site. From: esinalaylat <esinalaylat@...>Subject: massages Date: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 10:32 AMI have a standing massage and colonic appt. tomorrow and am wondering should I cancel my massages until am done with this round. I will double up on my colonics if I cancel the massages which I think would be GREAT help releasing the toxic wastes. I just started VLCD yesterday tomorrow would be my third day any advice? Thanks, Talya ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 If you have earned income you can claim massage as an Impairment Related Work Expense when calculating how much your earnings will affect your SS and/or SSDI. I have trained my personal assistants how to stretch and move and massage me every morning while getting up. This is not the same as a real massage, but it really helps. It may be worthwhile to hire a massage therapist to come to your house to teach your assistants what to do. I've never used a massage chair. I use a massage table very occasionally, and my bed. I also custom make rce-filled bean bags that can be microwaved and place behind the sore part of my back and hip when I'm in my chair or bed. Alana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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